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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.10.05 08:26:00 -
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Who actualy flys these and flys these well?
I've been flying one for the last 3 days with many different setups, tanking, ganking, nosing etc and I just cannot find a role that it suits.
Always not enough pg, fitting RCUs just isn't natural so I don't even go there as it pretty much gimps any phoon setup.
So... does anyone have any really good fitting roles and/or setups for the phoon sinces its so called boost? -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that *beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus |
Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.10.05 09:00:00 -
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Keep trying - I believe it works nice
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.05 09:05:00 -
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fittting a phoon is still horrible, but at least you can use it as a poor dominix
From Dusk till Dawn
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2006.10.05 09:06:00 -
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it's a great tank, it can do the close range AC/cruise missile/nos uber speed gank thing, and i suppose you could try to snipe with it with a bunch of 1400's and torps, but i suppose you would get into fitting limits fast.
imho the have become great ships, the 8 high slots giving a nice set of options and the 175m^3 drone space is only topped by the domi..
- All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me - Pure drone user... give us a mini carrier and faction Typhoon and Dominix please |
Aloysius Knight
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.05 09:13:00 -
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is still sub par to other bs, badly needs another 1k grid to brign it in line with other bs
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Fogy
Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.05 09:40:00 -
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yeah, its a pain to fitt.. needs morre Gridd, and maby a boost to the armor hp.. i wouldnt mind if they swapped the shield hp's and the armor hp's around tbh..
But it BADLY needs more gridd!!
cheers! Fogy "From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:00:00 -
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Everyone else has already said it....great, versatile ship in concept, but not very variable in what it can do because it's lack of grid screws it.
As was pointed out multiple times before the bonus change, it still needs somewhere between 1k-2k base grid to be able to fit most reasonable setups.
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Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:06:00 -
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I love my Phoon. It can dish out very very good damnage - almost as good as my T2 blastertron (My minnie skills are not close to my gallente skills)
I cam quite satisfied with it - If I could get ONE more thing I would ask for a nother low-slot.
Once you realize that you do not NEED the top-tier guns on every ship, fittings become a whole lot easier.
_ Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg |
Benco97
Gallente Fedo Appreciation Group
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:15:00 -
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The typhoon never sucked, it used to be unique ship, primarily designed for use against lesser targets outside of it's class as opposed to other battleships which are designed primarily for inter-battleship warfare. I loved it very much. I still love it despite the changes, it's a powerful ship.
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xlop
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest Everyone else has already said it....great, versatile ship in concept, but not very variable in what it can do because it's lack of grid screws it.
As was pointed out multiple times before the bonus change, it still needs somewhere between 1k-2k base grid to be able to fit most reasonable setups.
i do fine in it! adding 1-2K would make it overpowered imo
just for info, you can get 4 crusie t2, 4 heavy nosf, 20km, med cap inj with 800s, painter, tracking desrupter. large t2 rep, medium t2 rep, 3x t2 hard and dcu and energized t2
thats about same dps as domi [more infact] with ability to mix dmg types [domi can really only do exp or thermal], more nosf than a domi, same tank, good mids
its a fine ship, very skill intensive though compaired to most since u need great drone skills [4+mil] and decent missile skills [3+mil]. although id like to see the drone bay increased to 250M^3
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 The typhoon never sucked, it used to be unique ship, primarily designed for use against lesser targets outside of it's class as opposed to other battleships which are designed primarily for inter-battleship warfare. I loved it very much. I still love it despite the changes, it's a powerful ship.
That's its only role really. You don't have to fit the top tier guns but your dps is going to be crap. Yeah it tanks like nuts, but it's pretty useless when you don't have the dps to kill anything.
It needs 1200+ grid imo. -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that *beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:19:00 -
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I would like new graphics for the ship... --- Eve Wiki | Eve Tribune | Eve Pirate |
MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I would like new graphics for the ship...
I'm sure it's going to be sexy in Kali :) -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that *beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus |
Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:36:00 -
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As a logistics with NOS it is nice support boat imo ____________________ MOGarmy
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Zhirong Lee
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:45:00 -
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It's a very underated, but very capable BS which requires a lot of skill points/player skills to fly it really well. Watch the MC videos of Seleene flying a phoon. Very cool :)
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:06:00 -
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very soon I can fly the phoon with tech2 AC und tech2 Torps, will give it a try since the close range tempest is quite uselss nowadays.
But I guess Im better of flying a raven anyway
From Dusk till Dawn
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Trefnis
Solidline Enterprise
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Posted - 2006.10.05 12:05:00 -
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I wont fly in phoon anytime soon as Sieges T2 are to expensive for me now (its cheaper to fit tempy than phoon) so ill share my fit
4x dual 425mm T2, 4x Sieges T2 disruptor, web, painter, jammer (thou ill use ECCM next time) LAR T2, 3x EAN T2, 3x 1600 Tungsten 5x Berk T2, 5x Valk T2 (or wariors, dont remember)
i have no idea what dps i have but i know i killed domi with dual rep tank and plates very fast. omi tanks are popular lately so explo is nice dmg, and ac with barrage will hit above 20km so no need for speed mod if u see blaster mega just use hail and jav torps, he will come to u anyway :)
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Vathar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.05 12:08:00 -
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Wonderful ship, crappy grid!
Not asking to be able to fit a full rack of best weapons + dual LAR tank, but even medium grade weapons + average tank are hard to fit!
On the bright side, even with PG issues, the typhoon rocks for small gang warfare! ___________________________________________
Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing |
Sandra Tseng
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:27:00 -
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fit dual 425mm guns and cruise laucnhers if you are low on grid. I can fit dual650mm guns, three siege launchers, heavy Nos, AB and good tank without problems.
even better tank and upgrade to Siege launchers with the 425mm guns. Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/10/2006 13:28:42
Can this ship kill t2 Ravens?
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:33:00 -
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omg nanophoooooon!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/10/2006 13:34:44
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Nafri
Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/10/2006 13:28:42
Can this ship kill t2 Ravens?
of course not
From Dusk till Dawn
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
But I guess Im better of flying a raven anyway
That comment applies pretty much regardless of what you're flying, though :P
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.10.05 14:02:00 -
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1 more turret, 1 more launcher, 2k more grid, thx
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Mila Prestoc
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Posted - 2006.10.05 14:45:00 -
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Even 500 pg more would be nice so fitting min size weapons and a dual rep tank is possible without using cruiser sized mods. -------------------------
Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
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Wizie
Minmatar Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.05 15:43:00 -
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Its a subpar BS. The changes only meant that you had to train another month to be sub-par in it. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob |
Liam Fremen
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Posted - 2006.10.05 16:49:00 -
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Phoon is a very funny pvp ship with a very fast fitting... i mean 5+ nanofiber.
My actual fitting for pvp is the following:
4x Cruise launcher (limo's or similar named, low cost one) 4x Knave heavy nosferatu (about 500-600k isk each)
1x 100mn quad lif fueled (about 600k) 1x 20km scrambler 1x Target Painter / Conjunctive ECCM Ladar (about 500k) 1x Heavy electrochemical cap booster (about 300k)
7x Nanofiber t1
This make the ship going about 3km/s, amazing agility, good damage output vs cruiser and bs's, is a little different from the normal fitting with torps, i prefer this one with cruise.
The good thing of this ship is that you realy have the control of the distance, and this is amazing... your drone helps you very much and when you get scrambled by a inty, just activate 4 nosferatu on it and warp away :) (made it about 10 times at least)
Is a funny ship, for a low expense you get a fun ship to fly, nothing else :) fun and sometime deadly but don't bealive you will be able to kill everything, you just will be able to run away from "nearly" everything :)
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.10.05 16:54:00 -
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This is the setup I have been thinking about recently. I can use the T2 Torps and Ogres, just waiting on the ACs. In the meantime I think the nanophoon will be fun.
4 siege II 4 Dual 425mm II
Cap Inj 100 MWD 2x whatever
Large Rep Med Rep T2 2 x EAN II 1 x DC 1 x RCU II 1 x ? (Nano? DMod? Stabbie?)
Has 966 grid left and 96 CPU. Should have decent damage output, although not fantastic. I would love to know what speed you can attain in a phoon with a MWD and no nanos as I haven't tried it out yet.
It just looks fun to me. It won't beat a Raven, but as Testy said not much else will anyway. It still gets 750 DPS or so with max skills under 10km, and about 700 DPS at 20km or below, which isn't bad.
Really curious about the speed thing with the MWD though.
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Ardan
Minmatar The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.10.05 20:03:00 -
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Strange...
For a Tier 1 BS it is tied for the highest Power Grid at 12500. Has Decent CPU. 600, Decent armor and Shield with a pretty good slot layout. 8-4-7.
What's wrong with it?
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