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mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:27:00 - [1] i dont know about you readers, but i love my tech1 frigates. they are cheap and they are, AFAIK, killin' machines. tech1 frigates need new additions IMO. after teir 2 battlecruisers and teir3 battlehips come out, are there any plans for teir 4 frigates? or for that matter, teir 5. i'm thinking a kestrel only with 6 missile slots and the model looks like a miniature raven. please tuxford if you give us teir4 frigates ill give you ISK or something I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!!
Sandra Tseng THE MISPHIT'S	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:38:00 - [2] Suecide-kessies are not enough! We need Sueciede-Kessies-on-steroids!!! _ Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg
eternity lord	Posted - 2006.10.06 08:57:00 - [3] jiiharr! The Galaxy is not enougth.
Psykocyber	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:00:00 - [4] testing again test test testing
eternity lord	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:01:00 - [5] test test test test test test test The Galaxy is not enougth.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:05:00 - [6] Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Benco97 Gallente Fedo Appreciation Group	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:09:00 - [7] Woo! i'm all for new tech I frigs, Yay ^^ I want a choice of Rookie ships! Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (FAG) and Registered Fedo breeder (Sig kindly supplied by Zurtur)
Kitana Bane	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? What do you mean? And nice sig. It was once refered to as "the great lie". :)
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:11:00 - [9] Edited by: Ithildin on 06/10/2006 09:11:33 Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? Or remove the redundant Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar frigates. Who uses a Navitas anyway? In essence, each race can/should be identified as having three racial concepts. Reduce each race to having these three represented in frigates, and then one mining frigate. EVE no longer needs tiny step stones, Miner IIs are readily available to nearly everyone for an affordable price making the step from the lowest frigate to the highest a small one - after that it's not too far to attain a destroyer, even for the casual player. P.S. Isn't a second destroyer more exciting? - Three years old
Forsch Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Kitana Bane Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? What do you mean? Amarr has one less frig than the other races. Forsch Defender of the empire More love for side factions!

Hiro Kazamatsuri	Posted - 2006.10.06 09:59:00 - [11] tier cannot be more than 3 :p it's in the name !
Waut 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? One with a 5m¦ dronebay would make some sense as a first step to the arbitrator In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
Sandra Tseng THE MISPHIT'S	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Hiro Kazamatsuri tier cannot be more than 3 :p it's in the name ! oh yeah? what abouth 10th tier overseers? _ Killed my sig AGAIN! :p http://www.ninc.org/krubarax/images/2d/verydisco.jpg
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Ithildin P.S. Isn't a second destroyer more exciting? Yes, so long as these conditions are fulfilled: 1) its got an amount of cap worth mentioning 2) it can actually be fit with its proper guns, without excessive use of grid mods. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:33:00 - [15] More ships would be infinitely better than less! I agree, more tech I frigs, but what roles could they fill? Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Arkyk	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:45:00 - [16] Originally by: keepiru Originally by: Ithildin P.S. Isn't a second destroyer more exciting? Yes, so long as these conditions are fulfilled: 1) its got an amount of cap worth mentioning 2) it can actually be fit with its proper guns, without excessive use of grid mods. This man speaks the truth.
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Waut Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? One with a 5m¦ dronebay would make some sense as a first step to the arbitrator Um, Crucifier mate - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Waut 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:26:00 - [18] Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Waut Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? One with a 5m¦ dronebay would make some sense as a first step to the arbitrator Um, Crucifier mate Hmm, maybe altough the crucifier is more of an EW frig. I was thinking more of the Amarr version of the tristan (so next to a drone, it still has a considerable punch on its own) In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Waut Originally by: Zhaine Originally by: Waut Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? One with a 5m¦ dronebay would make some sense as a first step to the arbitrator Um, Crucifier mate Hmm, maybe altough the crucifier is more of an EW frig. I was thinking more of the Amarr version of the tristan (so next to a drone, it still has a considerable punch on its own) Aye I see your point, but the Arbi is also as close as Amarr get to an E-War cruiser, and shares the disruptor bonus with the crucifier, so the cruci-arbi line does fit pretty well. Not that I at all disagree that an Amarr-tristan would be cool. - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
ARMORINE	Posted - 2006.10.06 17:50:00 - [20] more destroyers... ALOT more destroyers, would make me having destroyer 4.....and soon five more worthy besides who doesnt love destroyers they just SOOOOO damn fun to fly, i have all four races destroyers(t1) and i fly them with lots of guns, and a fairly decent tank(atleast for the ammar and the gallente destroyers) oh and new frigates would be coll but personly i woudl rather see destroyers or.....AND CORVETTES! you know theyr bigger then cruiser smaller then battlecruisers and theyr FAST.....well im don ranting so back to the good discusion

Yamaeda	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:03:00 - [21] Originally by: Hiro Kazamatsuri tier cannot be more than 3 :p it's in the name ! tier = level/layer Unless harbors and buildings can only have 3 tiers, you're wrong. /Y
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.07 17:20:00 - [22] bump for an issue that desperately needs looking at I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!!
Snikkt Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.07 20:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Ithildin Edited by: Ithildin on 06/10/2006 09:11:33 Originally by: Rodj Blake Rather than a whole load of tier 4 frigates, how about they just introduce the missing Amarrian frigate? Who uses a Navitas anyway? I do. NOTHING needs to be removed. But, yes I'd like 2nd destroyers, and no 4th tier Frigs are not needed. Many other things need looking at before some selfish demand. ------------------- If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Originally by: Aloysia Leyshon Shuttels are urban myth pure and simple. I've yet to see evidence of an actual shuttle.[/qu
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.07 21:24:00 - [24] More t1 ships is a nice idea, and a 4th tier frig is a good choice, once the tier3 BS, tier2 BCs and desties are dealt with. That's a long time off. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Slash Harnet Minmatar Industrial Services INC	Posted - 2006.10.08 00:04:00 - [25] I'd love to see a tier 2 Destroyer. Makes sense with BC's getting some love. Still waiting for Flagships though so I'm not holding my breath.
Android Mindslave Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.10.08 02:46:00 - [26] WTF would tier 2 destroyers even DO? Destroyers have zero tank, and are 100% anti-frig gank. Caldari = Long range snipe gank. Minmataar = Medium range alpha-strike gank. Catalyst = Short range blaser gank. Amarr = WTF!?!?! 1 midslot + stupid bonus = useless. Fitting them isn't rocket science either. Stuff in as many sensor boosters, tracking computers and damage mods as you can fit. Hit F1-F8, wait until you see a frigate class ship, click on it, boom. press F1-F8 agian, wait until you see a frigate, click on it boom. Destroyers are one-diminsional insta-gank I-WIN buttons vs frigs, but are death-traps vs anything else. To find alternate ways of accomplishing that, you'd have to get silly. You'd have to have stuff that looked like this when maxed out: Caldari: 500% increase in rocket velocity. Gallente: +50% light drone control range and tracking, 500% increase in light drone MWD speed. -1000% speed, damage, rof of medium and large drones. Large drone bay. Minmataar: MWD fitting bonus. Tracking and damage bonuses for autocannons. VERY large base sig radius. Amarr: Hell if I know.
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.08 02:54:00 - [27] Originally by: Android Mindslave WTF would tier 2 destroyers even DO? Destroyers have zero tank, and are 100% anti-frig gank. Caldari = Long range snipe gank. Minmataar = Medium range alpha-strike gank. Catalyst = Short range blaser gank. Amarr = WTF!?!?! 1 midslot + stupid bonus = useless. Fitting them isn't rocket science either. Stuff in as many sensor boosters, tracking computers and damage mods as you can fit. Hit F1-F8, wait until you see a frigate class ship, click on it, boom. press F1-F8 agian, wait until you see a frigate, click on it boom. Destroyers are one-diminsional insta-gank I-WIN buttons vs frigs, but are death-traps vs anything else. To find alternate ways of accomplishing that, you'd have to get silly. You'd have to have stuff that looked like this when maxed out: Caldari: 500% increase in rocket velocity. Gallente: +50% light drone control range and tracking, 500% increase in light drone MWD speed. -1000% speed, damage, rof of medium and large drones. Large drone bay. Minmataar: MWD fitting bonus. Tracking and damage bonuses for autocannons. VERY large base sig radius. Amarr: Hell if I know. Don't forget the fact that some small lasers are extremely hard to fit.
Markttrulle	Posted - 2006.10.08 08:24:00 - [28] Edited by: Markttrulle on 08/10/2006 08:25:09 Edited by: Markttrulle on 08/10/2006 08:24:55 Edited by: Markttrulle on 08/10/2006 08:24:21 Originally by: welsh wizard More ships would be infinitely better than less! I agree, more tech I frigs, but what roles could they fill? Maybe we could have some dedicated tacklers ? Give them a combination of 2 of these bonuses maybe: - 10% less cap for warp disruptors/lvl + 5% speed/lvl + 10% agility/lvl -5 % mass/lvl + 10% NOS resist/lvl edit: spelling
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.10 10:30:00 - [29] tbh i think the teir4 frigates should be like... uber cargo frigates. faster then an industrial, maybe with 800 base cargo space on average. or otherwise frigates with bonuses to modules t1 frigs havent got already. of course not as good as the lachesis, rapier, bhaalgorn bonuses, but some smaller version. gallente t1 frig with web range bonus, caldari t1 frig with remote sensor damp and booster effectiveness bonuses, amarr t1 frig with nos bonuses, (and since there is already one for target painting)minmatar frig with scrambling bonuses especially the webrange and scram bonuses, theres currently no way for one to get bonuses like that without high skills, lots of ISK, or the appropriate gang bonuses. I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!!
Zekarus Caldari In Excess Enterprises	Posted - 2006.10.10 10:54:00 - [30] "Elite" T1 friggies needing Frigate level 5s? (for those who want to go PvP but don't want to risk a T2 to keep an edge... or something...) Can't think. Must finish this thesis.

Glarion Garnier Solar Wind	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:28:00 - [31] I have allways liked about a idea of tech 1 EW frigates but how about making tier 2 EW destroyers. Bonuses on the basis that Recons have for each race. Gallente damps or warp disruptor / crambler range Caldari ew bonuses Amarr , neut & nos or tracking disruption - range bonuse Minmatar webbing or target painting - range bonuses how about that . while you are at it more hp + slots acording to Ewar
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:01:00 - [32] Edited by: mazzilliu on 10/10/2006 21:04:23 Originally by: Zekarus "Elite" T1 friggies needing Frigate level 5s? (for those who want to go PvP but don't want to risk a T2 to keep an edge... or something...) Can't think. Must finish this thesis. it's zekarus! 1 point! and so i dont end up hijacking my own thread: there's already an excellent EW frig and it already comes with the proper bonuses, its called the griffin I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!!
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:29:00 - [33] how about another slot for teir II dessies? caldari teir II could be something like this: 8 high 4 mid 2 low 10 more PG 10 more cpu 50% optimal range ( role bonus) 7.5% tracking 5% damage
Mr Peanut The New Empire R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 02:20:00 - [34] Originally by: mazzilliu Edited by: mazzilliu on 10/10/2006 21:04:23 Originally by: Zekarus "Elite" T1 friggies needing Frigate level 5s? (for those who want to go PvP but don't want to risk a T2 to keep an edge... or something...) Can't think. Must finish this thesis. it's zekarus! 1 point! and so i dont end up hijacking my own thread: there's already an excellent EW frig and it already comes with the proper bonuses, its called the griffin I think Crucifier (spelling?) counts.
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.11 04:07:00 - [35] Originally by: Mr Peanut Originally by: mazzilliu Edited by: mazzilliu on 10/10/2006 21:04:23 Originally by: Zekarus "Elite" T1 friggies needing Frigate level 5s? (for those who want to go PvP but don't want to risk a T2 to keep an edge... or something...) Can't think. Must finish this thesis. it's zekarus! 1 point! and so i dont end up hijacking my own thread: there's already an excellent EW frig and it already comes with the proper bonuses, its called the griffin I think Crucifier (spelling?) counts. 3 med slots is awful though I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!!
Andreya	Posted - 2006.10.13 14:14:00 - [36] Teir 2 dessies, Assault frigate... heavy assault cruiser... why not assault dessie? theres no reason they shouldnt have a dessie with some pimpin resists that can combat a AF... the assault dessie should also be powerful enough to combat cruisers effectivly (nos is frig/dessie nightmare, please do something about it :)
Alassra Eventide the Organ Grinder and Company Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:38:00 - [37] Should add another interceptor....because there needs to be another ship based off a rifter hull, and people have complained at me for begging for a Rifter hull based Titan.
Gasi Kobayashi Naughty 40	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:21:00 - [38] Edited by: Gasi Kobayashi on 13/10/2006 22:22:32 I like Amarr Punisher very much ... but i think we need Amarr damage dealing frigate with at least 3 med and low slots beside 10% less cap usage for lasers we always get, we should also get 5% rof bonus or 5% damage on small lasers I really hope this will happen btw: dont tell me about Inquisitor ... I WANT LASER PLATFORM! ----------- Please imagine picture of your choice here. Thank you, Gasi Kobayashi
Azmura Minmatar The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 22:27:00 - [39] Originally by: Alassra Eventide Should add another interceptor....because there needs to be another ship based off a rifter hull, and people have complained at me for begging for a Rifter hull based Titan. I second this motion. More Rifter hulls!


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