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Edgar Erata Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 1	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:58:18 - [1] - Quote According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969
Rowells ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans 2002	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:59:35 - [2] - Quote I'm pretty sure a Titan warping at 1.5AU/s is pretty fast
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6512	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:59:46 - [3] - Quote Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 Did Apollo 10 have a warp drive that I didn't know about, because I have an Atron that'll zip across 20AU in a couple of seconds. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Edgar Erata Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 1	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:05:02 - [4] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 Did Apollo 10 have a warp drive that I didn't know about, because I have an Atron that'll zip across 20AU in a couple of seconds. Lol I was taking about naked ships
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4257	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:05:28 - [5] - Quote It might have been going fast, but how about that turning radius? Bet it couldn't pull off a turn at that speed in smaller than a dramiel going at the same speed could. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Nalia White Tencus 75	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:05:30 - [6] - Quote Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 did they measure that speed in the film studios in area 51? impressive :P
Memphis Baas 171	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:07:37 - [7] - Quote Issue has been brought up in the past; you'd be shooting at a dot on the radar if realistic speeds are implemented, because realistic speeds also require realistic distances, and the ships will just be dots at 10-100-1000 km ranges. So for the sake of pretty graphics, they've limited the range of guns and speed of ships.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6512	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:16:09 - [8] - Quote Edgar Erata wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 Did Apollo 10 have a warp drive that I didn't know about, because I have an Atron that'll zip across 20AU in a couple of seconds. Lol I was talking about ships in normal flight You're comparing video game mechanics to real physics. This is your error, because for the sake of gameplay, we have to keep things simple. There was an Xplane game about a decade back I remember playing that gave you a few hypothetical spacefighters and I remember putting them to the test with some friends. No engagement ever took place because whenever an intercept was attempted, the inertia was always too great for practical turning into the engagement. Not just that, but as we passed our intercept targets, they only appeared for a brief fraction of a second before disappearing from view behind us because they were just moving too damn fast relative to us. Ever since then, I've always wondered what a space combat game with real orbital physics might be like. You could, theoretically, engage ships in a high enough orbit with a proper intercept trajectory but if your targets were to see you coming, they could shift their orbit to avoid the intercept. Likewise, you could shift yours as well to set up a new intercept. But what might happen once you made engagement range? Well, if the orbit is too low, maneuvering of any kind might simply be out of the question, because you'd risk deorbiting and if your objective is to stay in space, you've got a problem. With a high enough orbit though, some low-speed maneuvering might actually be possible, and you could well see some close-up space battle action, but the speeds of engagement relative to one another would have to be low, while your orbital speed could remain quite high. Each ship maneuvering around other ships, though, would be shifting its own orbit in the process to some degree or another, but that's the thing - EVE, like most other space games, doesn't bother with gravity, while reality does, and that complicates how real space combat might go down. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
HeXxploiT Little Red X 98	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:22:02 - [9] - Quote Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 You are correct. In fact the large majority of ships in eve would not even reach the escape velocity required to break away from earth which requires 11.2kps.
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 59	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:22:29 - [10] - Quote Nalia White wrote: Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 did they measure that speed in the film studios in area 51? impressive :P greaaaaaat. one of you people. my linked dram approaches 11k/s and has absurd agility.

Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3091	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:40:22 - [11] - Quote HeXxploiT wrote: In fact the large majority of ships in eve would not even reach the escape velocity required to break away from earth which requires 11.2kps. And now you know why the Atmospheric Flight designs for Eve were scrapped. Post on the Eve-o forums with a Goonswarm Federation character that drinking bleach is bad for you, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong.
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 1989	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:50:20 - [12] - Quote Relative to what? Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6512	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:51:08 - [13] - Quote Scatim Helicon wrote: HeXxploiT wrote: In fact the large majority of ships in eve would not even reach the escape velocity required to break away from earth which requires 11.2kps. And now you know why the Atmospheric Flight designs for Eve were scrapped. Ship speeds have nothing to do with that, that's a matter of complex code, nothing more. There's no reason that unrealistic ship speeds would hinder atmospheric flight mechanics because reality doesn't factor into video game mechanics, only playability. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Arronicus Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 1452	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:03:33 - [14] - Quote Ship speeds were set to levels that make the game enjoyable and balanced to play. Man. That's really a mindblowing revelation, Edgar. As for normal speed, eve spaceships go 0 m/s at normal speed, because they are neither normal nor real. If you're referring to the maximum speed of the ship, than warp drive IS its normal speed, as that is how the ship propels itself. You dont say that the normal speed of a lungfish is how fast it can wriggle on land when comparing it to how fast a pig can move, you compare it at it's top sustainable speed. Its normal. So no, eve space ships are not slow. Even the absolute slowest of ships in Eve completely blows anything real and current out of the water.
Varathius Blood Fountain Massacre LOADED-DICE 157	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:15:15 - [15] - Quote as an aerospace engineer let me explain you all that .... lol back on topic, I think it is best not to get too much involved into realism detail here (as hard as this will be for Asperger affected people), but eve ships behave as they would navigate under water and compared to modern day submarines on planet earth all I can say is that they are going dang fast.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 15031	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:25:02 - [16] - Quote Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 Casuals. Voyager 1 is doing 61,000 km/h on by far the best road trip ever. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 19898	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:30:37 - [17] - Quote Im sure that Eve ships could easily attain such speeds if gravitational slingshots were a thing in Eve. Just orbit your Megathron around a moon for a few days and then burn at the correct time. Alright gents, were going to kite the enemy next week, start your slingshot trajectories now. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6262	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:39:50 - [18] - Quote In real space real combat would be next to impossible. There are only a few earth based systems that can shoot a rocket travelling at high speeds. Hence I think the future will be lasers and "spall". Machines will "predict" where the target is going and rely on pattern bursts and "metalstorm" guns (multiple projectiles per cartridge). Presently a guided air to air missile is supersonic, some I think fly at Mach 7 or more. But unless the target is coming or going it's not going to hit and even if faster than a target, there stands to be a good chance of running out of fuel before reaching it (assuming the target is tallied from "the usual distance" which is tens of miles). If this were a true space sim game there would hardly be any PVP. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Artenso Vestindal Dark Flames of Amarr 6	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:57:01 - [19] - Quote 1. EVE Online isnt spaceship simulator but submarine simulator... (friction of vacuum leading to ship slowing after putting AB/MWD offline? Aligning horisontally when no movement? no, were are not in space, we are in water/ether/something other and we aree floating in there... And why else would you be limited to tens of kilometres in range of weaponry, when real life railguns that are currently ready for military uses have greater effective range in Earths gravitation field and with all variables of atmosphere than large railgun in EVE space? 2. if flying around, ranges,... still seems slow for you, multiply everything (distances, speed,...) by 100 or 1000. No big deal...
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 588	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:05:00 - [20] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In real space real combat would be next to impossible. Not really, you just can't have dogfights or drones. Combat will look more like what we do in battleships at long range than anything else. Reminder: CCP thinks you have no right to your alliance logos.

Godfrey Silvarna Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light 301	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:14:29 - [21] - Quote We are not playing a space game. We are playing Internet Submarines with a space-themed backdrop, and this is fine.
Artenso Vestindal Dark Flames of Amarr 6	Posted - 2015.02.18 21:53:28 - [22] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In real space real combat would be next to impossible. There are only a few earth based systems that can shoot a rocket travelling at high speeds. Hence I think the future will be lasers and "spall". Machines will "predict" where the target is going and rely on pattern bursts and "metalstorm" guns (multiple projectiles per cartridge). Presently a guided air to air missile is supersonic, some I think fly at Mach 7 or more. But unless the target is coming or going it's not going to hit and even if faster than a target, there stands to be a good chance of running out of fuel before reaching it (assuming the target is tallied from "the usual distance" which is tens of miles). If this were a true space sim game there would hardly be any PVP. Lets look on it realistically... Lasers? Maaaaybe... But i think beam dispersion would be too big for lasers to be used in space for military purpose.You would most likely be limited to few thousands of kilometres. What is an effective range of nowadays military lasers? 10km, maybe less?. Also energy needed for sufficient laser beam is just TOO DAMN HIGH! Guns? Maybe, I dont know what do normal guns use to burn its explosive propulsion for bullet. If this part of fuel would be provided in ammunition, i dont see much problems... Well, exept muzzle velocity would make its realistic rangehorrible... And its kinetic energy too... Rockets? Great idea! Liquid fuel, some small maneuvering thursters,... Would work great, but i am affraid it would take just too much space... All that fuel for main propulsion, for maneuvering, warhead, liquid oxygen (or whatever) for warhead, probably nuclear warhead? or something like HEAT? Possibly thungsten or something, pure kinetic energy might be good enought... Problems? Too expensive, resources consuming, large... Railguns? Yeah, EM guns would do wonder in space. They dont need any atmosphere, fuel,... just electromagnet. In way of energy consumption they take much less than lasers... Possibilities of space combat? 1) Finding ship. Just try to find 100m object at 10000000km distance... 2) effective range. Not effective range of weapon, which is infinite (if you dont fire lasers, if you do, you are in kilometres...) but effective range to at least small possibility to hit. So lets say maximum of 30 light seconds distance, so something like 9000000km. Thats limit for missiles (you want to guid them to their target, right? Then you are limited by speed of light - how fast do you get information about target movement and give it to rocket to alter its path. It delay is too big, you will miss... 30s from target to you, 30s back, 1 minute delay could be quite accurate for spaceship battle) For railguns, currently tested ones have muzzle velocity around 2500m/s (thats quite good, compared to something around 1000 for conventional firearms). Lets say you might by some devevlopment get to... 50km/s... It would be extremely hard to hit somethign with so slow. Not impossible, but hard... So railguns might be few thousands of kilometres range. Simmilar to laser, maybe lasers wont be so bad after all with its physically limited range simmilar to range limitation of railgun for accuracy reasons. And lasers would be extremely accurate on this distances... This also show that standart minmatar-like weapon systems is by far inferior to everything else. Sorry, slaves, no place for you in spacecombat :D I would say missiles would be only real option for space battles, otherwise it would be too hard to even get in range to fight. Congratulations to Caldari state
hollywood118921 Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:11:02 - [23] - Quote It could happen if there were thrusters at key parts in the ship to turn you
Serene Repose 2266	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:48:09 - [24] - Quote Well. Did you see the engine on that thing? Sure, it dropped off. But, if you want to talk speed, you have to talk the engine. It was a pre-catalytic converter modified Twin-V Harley. I think they kept the plush dice mirror hangers. Side note: They were runnin' with a Craig 8-Track playin' The Stone's Sticky Fingers...in QUAD! Treason never prospers. What is the reason? Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1429	Posted - 2015.02.18 23:10:37 - [25] - Quote eve isn't a spaceship combat simulator eve is a submarine combat simulator
Memphis Baas 171	Posted - 2015.02.18 23:47:10 - [26] - Quote We already have the sufficient brightness for background nebulas, so all we would need is just minor details here and there, and the "sky" can easily be made to look like a fishtank.
Mori Dey Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.19 01:29:30 - [27] - Quote Speed is measured relative to another object. Your car drives 60 mph faster than the rotation of the earth. In reality it moves much faster. The earth rotates around the sun, the sun around the central black hole of the milky way and the galaxy moves away from where the big bang originated. We have very fast cars.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1409	Posted - 2015.02.19 02:20:53 - [28] - Quote Eve may appear to be a submarine simulator. It is really a "Rubber Duck in a bathtub simulator". This can be demonstrated by examining the collision model and also the way your ship bobs up and down when parked near a celestial.
Hal Morsh Icendus Corux Warp to Cyno. 260	Posted - 2015.02.19 02:29:50 - [29] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Edgar Erata wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 Did Apollo 10 have a warp drive that I didn't know about, because I have an Atron that'll zip across 20AU in a couple of seconds. Lol I was talking about ships in normal flight You're comparing video game mechanics to real physics. This is your error, because for the sake of gameplay, we have to keep things simple. There was an Xplane game about a decade back I remember playing that gave you a few hypothetical spacefighters and I remember putting them to the test with some friends. No engagement ever took place because whenever an intercept was attempted, the inertia was always too great for practical turning into the engagement. Not just that, but as we passed our intercept targets, they only appeared for a brief fraction of a second before disappearing from view behind us because they were just moving too damn fast relative to us. Ever since then, I've always wondered what a space combat game with real orbital physics might be like. You could, theoretically, engage ships in a high enough orbit with a proper intercept trajectory but if your targets were to see you coming, they could shift their orbit to avoid the intercept. Likewise, you could shift yours as well to set up a new intercept. But what might happen once you made engagement range? Well, if the orbit is too low, maneuvering of any kind might simply be out of the question, because you'd risk deorbiting and if your objective is to stay in space, you've got a problem. In that case, it might just be a straight-up shootout with whatever's coming to intercept you. With a high enough orbit though, some low-speed maneuvering might actually be possible, and you could well see some close-up space battle action, but the speeds of engagement relative to one another would have to be low, while your orbital speed could remain quite high. Each ship maneuvering around other ships, though, would be shifting its own orbit in the process to some degree or another, but that's the thing - EVE, like most other space games, doesn't bother with gravity, while reality does, and that complicates how real space combat might go down. Play space engineers. The speed may be extremely limited but it's still a pain in the ass at attempting to speed towards and follow a NPC ship whilst being shot at. It goes something like this. I'M GETTING CLOSER!! I'M GETTING CLOSER!! ** I CAN'T TURN AROUND FAST ENOUGH!!! Well now he's all the way over there.. Hitting things manually is just as difficult, and bringing your ship in close and adjusting your speed to his is a really great way to get shot up by it's automatic turrets if you don't end up smacking right into him anyways, which is also hard to do because usualy I just flew on by (while being shot at). CCP - Outpost code is scary.**
permion Second Battlegroup Nerfed Alliance Go Away 13	Posted - 2015.02.19 03:38:56 - [30] - Quote I thought warp drive coils/whatever were always online. Which means you're always interacting with "extra matter". So if you completely shut down your warp drive you'd be able to kick Apollo 11's rear end. Your crew would probably mutiny immediately after shutting down your standby warp drive. Pretty sure your ships life expectancy would be a matter of days as well. Since you're litterally a sitting duck with a known trajectory, even if you did change course it's not like you can hide in space. Seriously what could be more delicious than a ship that can't run away.

Jenshae Chiroptera The Volition Cult 954	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:02:02 - [31] - Quote Edgar Erata wrote: According to the 2002 Guinness World Records, Apollo 10 set the record for the highest speed attained by a manned vehicle at 39,897 km/h (11.08 km/s or 24,791 mph) during the return from the Moon on May 26, 1969 Don't know if it has been said yet, about to sleep. You need to compare EVE ships against submarines, that is the correct, closest type of physics. CSM Ten movement for change. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids. Status: Rabid carebear Blog
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 19906	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:04:49 - [32] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: You need to compare EVE ships against submarines, that is the correct, closest type of physics. Submarines in space gravy. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
Whittorical Quandary The Asteroid is Depleted 14	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:15:22 - [33] - Quote I am so... not going to pvp you at 40k m/s. Besides warp, i think any kind of close quarters spaceship combat would have to take place at similar relative velocities (all ships could be traveling at like 100k m/s but due to relative motion, they would seem slow. Defeats the point of attacking each other if two ships were to collide at tens of thousands of meter per second. (Unless you were miner bumping) A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams
Xadiran Moira. Villore Accords 20	Posted - 2015.02.19 06:04:39 - [34] - Quote The reason for it is: Gameplay The in-game fluff-oriented reason is that warp drives / inertial dampeners cause a sort of drag, limiting a ships sub-warp speeds. That being said, EVE warp speeds are ridiculous even compared to other science fiction. Interceptors flying around 10 AU/s? Literally seconds from our sun to the edge of our solar system.
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 1922	Posted - 2015.02.19 09:16:37 - [35] - Quote While I can't be bothered doing the exact maths, the speed of light is slightly over 2au/sec So nearly every ship in EVE has an FTL drive.
CerN Frostwolf The Rising Stars Tactical Narcotics Team 15	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:14:03 - [36] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: While I can't be bothered doing the exact maths, the speed of light is slightly over 2au/sec So nearly every ship in EVE has an FTL drive. Speed of light is nowhere even close to 2au/sec. The sun is 1 AU from the earth, and light takes 7-8 minutes to reach us from the sun.
SuperSpyScoutGirl Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:23:09 - [37] - Quote CerN Frostwolf wrote: Nevyn Auscent wrote: While I can't be bothered doing the exact maths, the speed of light is slightly over 2au/sec So nearly every ship in EVE has an FTL drive. Speed of light is nowhere even close to 2 AU/s. The sun is 1 AU from the earth, and light takes 7-8 minutes to reach us from the sun. Speed of light is 7.21 AU/h, or 0.12 AU/s 149,597,870.7 km = 1AU or 1AU = 149,597,870,700 m Speed of light in a vacuum = 299 792 458 m / s Speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s / 149,597,870,700 m/AU = ~0.002 AU/s Ships most certainly have a FTL drive.
CerN Frostwolf The Rising Stars Tactical Narcotics Team 15	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:28:55 - [38] - Quote SuperSpyScoutGirl wrote: CerN Frostwolf wrote: Nevyn Auscent wrote: While I can't be bothered doing the exact maths, the speed of light is slightly over 2au/sec So nearly every ship in EVE has an FTL drive. Speed of light is nowhere even close to 2 AU/s. The sun is 1 AU from the earth, and light takes 7-8 minutes to reach us from the sun. Speed of light is 7.21 AU/h, or 0.12 AU/s 149,597,870.7 km = 1AU or 1AU = 149,597,870,700 m Speed of light in a vacuum = 299 792 458 m / s Speed of light = 299 792 458 m / s / 149,597,870,700 m/AU = ~0.002 AU/s Ships most certainly have a FTL drive. I stand corrected. It is 0.12 AU/minute and 0.002AU/s
Khaylinn Akhunshar Popular People's Front of Judea 6	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:31:45 - [39] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: While I can't be bothered doing the exact maths, the speed of light is slightly over 2au/sec So nearly every ship in EVE has an FTL drive. I'd recommend watching this video Riding light if you want to get a feel for the speed of light. It's not a movie for the impatient though :)
Liafcipe9000 Critically Preposterous 33502	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:35:58 - [40] - Quote a shame they don't count virtual transportation, cuz there was a time when you could fit and activate multiple MWDs on any individual ship... imagine a dramiel with 4 MWDs... Founder of the Graycember movement and LAGL's pet cat.

MarkyJ 10	Posted - 2015.02.19 13:37:29 - [41] - Quote There's something I don't think anyone mentioned here. If this game was realistic you might not even need dedicated weapons. Consider; to maintain low orbit around the earth (let's say you were chilling out next to hubble) you need to be go about 8km/s. I decide I have an objection to your contiued existance and fly the opposite way round the planet on your orbit. When we meet we have a combined velocity relative to each other of about 16km/s as I fly past you at close range. At about this time the ratty old sofa I shoved out of the airlock slams into the front of your ship doing about 16km/s. The effect is probably similar to a dreadnaughts railgun. Kinetic weapons would be awesome in space combat. Your missiles wouldn't even need warheads if you were flying at the target fast enough when you launched them!
Jacob Holland Weyland-Vulcan Industries 376	Posted - 2015.02.19 13:43:40 - [42] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: the ships will just be dots at 10-100-1000 km ranges. If they're even that. Move out past a couple of AU from the star (significantly less from a red dwarf) and the light, with no diffusion, available to your eyes after reflecting from another ship is so small that it would be all but invisible - particularly if its emmisions were low (no engine plasma flare for example).
permion Second Battlegroup Nerfed Alliance Go Away 13	Posted - 2015.02.19 13:53:41 - [43] - Quote Robinson's First Law of space combat Something hitting at 3 km/sec (kips) delivers kinetic energy broadly equal to its mass in TNT. Rick Robinson Robinson's Second Law of space combat For every kilogram of handwavium you remove from a setting, you add about 10 cubic meters of impossible to maintain plumbing. Jon's Law, part 1 Any interesting space drive is a weapon of mass destruction. It only matters how long you want to wait for maximum damage. It goes on to say: Jon's Law, part 2 Interesting is equal to "whatever keeps the readers from getting bored." FROM: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/prelimnotes.php (this site is really really interesting) Essentially any sufficently interesting drive is indeed the worlds greatest weapon and shield. Weapon in the sense is that you have a plasma stream(or something stream) that is strong enough to push an aircraft carrier+more at "interesting speeds". Shield in the sense that any object you turn that plasma stream to will be utterly destroyed and redirected. which is why shields/forcefields don't bother me at all in science fiction, because you're just redirecting your sufficiently interesting thrusts in the direction of bad stuff (which also explains why lasers are so darn popular in space since they're more likely to get through those defenses).
Effect One Vengeful Swan Vengeful Swarm 177	Posted - 2015.02.19 14:06:56 - [44] - Quote When will people stop trying to apply 'real life' space based hypothetical scenarios to this submarine simulator? 'This might be internet spaceships, but it's not rocket science to protect yourself and fly with a little common sense' - CCP Falcon
Ortus Maleficus Ministry of War Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2015.02.19 15:37:43 - [45] - Quote Just did some quick math, regarding interceptor warp speed. At 10au/s it would take only about 7.5 hours to get from Earth to Alpha Centauri.
Rayzilla Zaraki Tandokuno 281	Posted - 2015.02.19 18:30:49 - [46] - Quote Whether or not the spacecraft went that fast is immaterial. Comets, which are much larger than most Eve ships, also travel significantly faster. However, they don't have to have their collision boxes calculated every second to make a game enjoyable and even playable. Please don't complain about the speed of the ships in this game until you have experienced the speed (or lack of) in another internet spaceship game. The fastest ships in that game which are comparable in size to today's fighter planes top out at a mere 120-ish meters per second. For those of you playing at home, that is 268 miles per hour. That is less than 1/5th the top speed of an F-22 Raptor. We have cargo ships and even battleships that can go faster than a fighter craft in that other game. Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy 679	Posted - 2015.02.20 00:46:46 - [47] - Quote FTL travel in eve is pretty fast compared to the apollo missions. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á- [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 29956	Posted - 2015.02.20 00:55:01 - [48] - Quote I expected a topic about EVE ships lacking visceral impact. I was going to say that locking the camera to a tail view, subject to rotation with the hull would bring great effect to the feel of a ship. Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
Galen Dnari Damage Unlimited 19	Posted - 2015.02.20 06:08:21 - [49] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In real space real combat would be next to impossible. With current technology. Who's to say what a few thousand years of R&D might bring? I figure if there's a way we can kill each other in space, we'll find it. http://eveboard.com/ub/1939472205-31.png


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