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zeKzn
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.08 07:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Rockbox
Shards? Muahahah! 
Servers, whatever you want to call them. Makes no difference to the facts.
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Rockbox
Amarr
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.08 07:05:00 -
[62]
Shards? Muahahah!
Nova Satar > i'll be waiting
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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.08 07:28:00 -
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I bought EVE expecting it to be WoW in space.
I'm very disappointed in that. Instead of going and playing WoW, I'd like this game to become WoW.
Seriously, whats up with arrogant devs making games which arent WoW?
EVE is a PvP MMORPG. The last PvP MMORPG. How hard is it to find a PvE MMORPG? Is it really necessary to take the only remaining PvP MMORPG, which has utterly terrible, monotonous PvE, and turn it into a WoW-clone.
The only 'problem' with wardecs is that theyre too easy to avoid by anyone with a brain stem. You dont even need the entire brain - just the part that controls the autonomic nervous system. IF YOU CAN BREATHE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO WARDODGE LIKE A PRO.
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Pham Sirge
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.08 08:03:00 -
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Hi all,
Im so tired of people in high sec expecting safety Its HIGH SECURITY, not GOD MODE.
GET OVER IT.
- War decs are stupidly easy to avoid.
- Wars are mostly uneventful. (just ask those merc corps)
Heres some thoughts...
I spent 1 month(my first) in empire doing the NPC corp thing I didnt make any friends... I was effectivly playing eve offline.
I spent my 2nd month in empire after joining a player corp started by a real-life friend. It kinda sucked because we both were effectively playing eve offline. He wanted to trade run I wanted to mission run. SIGH.
I then made a plan to get into 0.0, This consituted looking for a Australian based corp that had a presence in 0.0. I found VTIL and became part of ASCN. I fought wars, I lost ships, I made friends and made about 2 bill in isk in the process.
People hiding in NPC corps must be pushed from the nest or they will never leave and quit the game.
Be it thru a tax increase or expulsion to war decable corps people really need to leave NPC corps.
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Pham Sirge
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.10.08 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ghoest on 08/10/2006 08:07:34
What most of you cant see is that this is a plan to move "carebears" toward corps and PVP with out driving them from the game. There is a huge number of these people.
These guys will quite if you take away safe high sec with NPC corps, so that not an option for CCP.
But my plan at least gets rid of the absurd current system that traps carebears in the NPC corps.
Most of you whining are the the same dummies that played Darktide and Mordred always insisting that newbs be gankable by high lvls. You insisted this right up till the point when you quite - you quite because the server was empty - it was empty because after there was a big contigent of veterans, the noobs stopped stay when they tried the game.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.08 08:43:00 -
[66]
As long as high sec space contains resources there can be no complete safety there at any time. That's simply part of Eve setting. You cannot expect to be able to compete in an area on one level, yet be safe from competition in that area by other means.
An example:
If you produce craploads of ships in high sec to fuel your war in low sec agains me, I need to be able to pursue you into high sec.
Hence the wardec system in Eve, and it's going nowhere.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2006.10.08 08:47:00 -
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ok being me i came up with an idea i belive will solve the problem of 1) people declaring war to get someones cargo and 2) newb corps being smited out of exsistance when a big old corp declares war because they feel like ruining someones day.
1) it takes 24 hours for the war to be declared all members of corps involved get an eve mail tellnig them about the war who declared it and who's involved
2) a corp can surrender, this ends the war but the surrendering corp CAN NOT declare war on the aggressing corp for 6 months
anynoe see any loop wholes in this i missed?
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Plastic Moldman
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cheese999
NPC corps are for n00bs and trial accounts.
Trial accounts arn't allowed into haulers, battleships, mining barges, capital ships, or to use whole host of modules.
Why should a n00b in a NPC corp be treated any differently? How many people havn't worked out the mechanics of the game by the time they are training for mining barges? Or battleships? Or freighters.
If you want to stay in a NPC corp, you're more than welcome to. But you can make much more isk by leaving your NPC safe haven.
Risk verse Reward after all.
I think this idea has some merit. You'd have to let NPC corp members have access to more than just what is available to trial accounts. Where to draw the line? I dunno. It could help to combat macroing since it could force macroers into deccable corps if they want to use higher end ships. Plus it would provide an incentive to leave the NPC corp rather than a disincentive to stay in the case of a high tax.
Originally by: Gawain Hill
ok being me i came up with an idea i belive will solve the problem of 1) people declaring war to get someones cargo and 2) newb corps being smited out of exsistance when a big old corp declares war because they feel like ruining someones day.
1) it takes 24 hours for the war to be declared all members of corps involved get an eve mail tellnig them about the war who declared it and who's involved
2) a corp can surrender, this ends the war but the surrendering corp CAN NOT declare war on the aggressing corp for 6 months
anynoe see any loop wholes in this i missed?
What's the downside to surrendering? If there is none then all you do to avoid a war is surrender. Poof, war over and back to peace.
Also, folks that want people booted from NPC corps, where would people be booted to? Would existing corps be forced to accept in new people? Would they be booted into deccable NPC corps? What would happen to people booted from player corps?
In the interest of full disclosure you should know this is an alt for a miner/missioner/indutrialist/marketeer. I like the economic side of this game and avoid wars and PVP like the plague. Why post with an alt? Some people don't yet realize that EVE Online and EVE Forums are two very different games.
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Viktor Kruger
Caldari
Industrial Warlords
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.10.08 13:19:00 -
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If a pvp corp wishes to pick a fight with a carebear corp and therefore declare war, let them it's there money & time they are wasting, who says you have to turn up & fight them, let them call you names & beat their chests, do your homework, find who is in there corp, do a bit of surveillance find out where in space they plan to hang out to disrupt your fun, You improvise. You adapt. You overcome.
As a matter of fact as carebears you can fight back catch the solo pilot by surprise, 20 men with pickaxes can try and take down the knight in armour, ok granted some of you are going to fall foul of the warriors skill & combat prowess but you might succeed.
This universe is full of challenges, I don't agree with changing the mechanics so one side has an advantage, so NO! npc corps should not have a time limit before kicking you out, and NO! high sec space should not have invunerabilty pockets.
I would just like to add on the side of the pvp corp, no warrior likes having a dish served to them without the thrill of the hunt, so you also do your homework play a bit of cat & mouse, place that cheese, set your trap, it's all part of the games learning curve.
Remember, there's always something cleverer than yourself.
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Val Oman
Delta Desperados
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:08:00 -
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I think the War Dec system is just fine as it is minus 1 thing.
If a corp is allowed to pay off CONCORD to turn a blind eye to the war, the corp being deced should have a chance to counter the offer. It should be made into a bidding war. This will give the industrial/PVE based corps a chance to PvP the way they are skilled in...by ISK.
Start the dec at a base price as it is, than let the bidding war occur in the first 24hours and the 24hours before the reestablishment of the war each week. This would also result in situations where the corps enter into negotiations and estblish a resonable ransom ("I'll pay you half the current bid to cancel the dec"). >10mil increments and the decced corp can set an option which automatically raises the bid by +10mil when the time expires.
To not totally protect the super rich, allow the war deccing corp to still initiate the war if they lose the bid by paying the final bid themselves. This "Limited war" would be like its in lowsec with gate and station guns firing but no CONCORD fleet response.
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