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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.08 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 08/10/2006 01:08:33
SERMON #2 IN A SERIES ABOUT THE GALLENTE AND GODLESSNESS
Citizens of Amarr. Today I speak to you about the concept of Governance. The Amarr Empire is led by an Emperor (temporarily unfilled) and several Councils along with the Imperial Chamberlain. These individuals are chosen not by man but by Gods divine will. Only God can truly rule man and only God can prescribe who those rulers are. The fact the Amarr Emperor is viewed as ordained by God is proof of this. It is evidenced in the holy scriptures.
"The Amarr people came into the world and the world came into being. Our illustrious ancestors freed their souls from the evils of the old world and created a new one. The great Amarr Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. To do so the enemies of the outside had to be defeated and the enemies of the inside controlled. The Lord gave our Emperor the power to harness the Good and punish the Evil. Ever since, the Emperor has lived the lives of his subjects and breathed the air of authority." ## The Scriptures, Book I.
Yet today we see the folly of those not dedicated to God and His service.
The Gallente.
Recent events have led to a closely contested "election" in the Gallente realm that will eventually lead to a new leader for these Godless people. What does democracy bring?
Well we've all seen the despair and poverty, the decadence and disgust, the perversion and porxography of this "Federation". A Federation of Sin!
Democracy brings about "politics". Where one man seeks to elevate himself over another for his own glorification. Where lies are told and trusts betrayed in order to secure a higher office. The "politicians" of the Gallente are perhaps the most corrupt of them all.
I have viewed holovideos of recent Gallente speeches by major candidates. I have to say the stories they tell each group of Gallente citizens seems to vary depending on the area they speak in. To the poor and downtrodden they speak of drug rehabilitation and free housing. To the wealthy they speak of the Crystal Avenue and "entertainment" that is truly a gateway to sin. To the middle class they spin yarns about "success" and safety.
Yet we see what they really are every day. A group bent on the destruction of our holy way of life. Beings who would infiltrate Gods Empire with porxography, filth and drugs of such a level that all who encounter them would be doomed to darkness.
Compare this "democracy" with the ordered state of Amarr. An Empire lead by an Emperor. One close to God, able to interpret the words of God and lead us. A man not forced to lie to us to secure office. The Amarrian Holder families going back hundreds of years have helped lead our Empire. They are not reduced to handing out campaign buttons at some holovid establishment looking for votes. Their place is secure as servants of God and His Empire.
Truly this "democracy" is a recipe for despair and poverty. When forced to choose these Gallente seem to be reduced the candidate they view as the "lessor of two evils" a phrase I have heard several Gallente utter. Compare that "evil" to the holiness that is the Amarrian way of life.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.08 01:06:00 -
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Stand firm Amarrians. Resist the temptations of this "democracy" and do not believe the lies that they are "free". True freedom comes from knowing God has chosen and that you are a holy messenger of light. The scriptures are clear.
""Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one." ## The Scriptures. Book II.
We are saved and it is our duty to remember as Gods chosen we set the example for the lessor races. Ignore the lies of the Gallente and preserve your way of life. A "democracy" without God is an election without a winner.
Archbishop PIE Priest
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Hitomi Ayame
Amarr Royal Knights of Khanid Order of the Khanid Crown
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Posted - 2006.10.08 05:29:00 -
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The greatest flaw of democracy is that it fails to realize that what is popular is not always what is right. - - -
The Royal Knights of Khanid are now recruiting!
Step up and serve God and Khanid today!
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Jessiah Jalkison
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Posted - 2006.10.08 08:08:00 -
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Word, brutha.
Da Empire is da pimp hand o' God, yo!
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Frater Patroabo
Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:01:00 -
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<i>There is no god but Man.</i>
Under the Amarr, those who fall short of the "grace of God" suffer, starve, and die.
Under any sort of democracy, those who will work and accept responsibility for themselves will prosper. Those who do not, regardless of their religious connections, will die.
I choose my own self-responsibility rather than the whim of some human-annointed "god" to determine my status in life. We have only to look beneath the cassocks of the "annointed" of the Amarr to see where their "god" dwells.
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.08 12:14:00 -
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The hypocrit speaks again!
Rest assured that your precious fanatics will stand firm - they aren't allowed to vote in the first place since they aren't citizens.
Yet, a high bishop's need to speak of an election that does not concern him, agitating people that would be complacent and perfectly unaffected, does speak volumes. Is it perhaps that you wish to agitate and influence the Gallentean voters instead? Such agitation usually means that the natural response is to elect the leader who promises protection.
Archbishop, do you in fact support Mentas Blaque as the new Gallentean president? You should be aware that your actions do. - Three years old |

Corsario Lusitania
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.08 12:59:00 -
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Could not agree more with Frater Patroabo.
When some see their power under threat, they tend to give sermons, so that they can keep their flock ignorant and saturated with nonesense. The same with some politics, though the beauty of the Democracy is that we can listen and then answer him in the voting booth.
Archbishop, continue to adore your so called God (another word for your hunger for power), your people will in time see the light of the sun which you try to hide from them with clouds of fear and darkness.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:36:00 -
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I would like to take this opportunity to comment upon the sermon by my esteemed Archbishop. While I feel that he does not really usderstand the motivations of the Gallente, I do appreciate the artistic merit of his sermon posters, as well as the lilting and rolling manner in which they are delivered. To ensure that his sermons are available for all adult Gallente to read, I promise, if elected, to order the creation of a special Wisdom From Archie series of liquor, with his sermons and artwork printed on the bottles. In this way we, as Gallente, will truly be able to relish and appreciate his work.
Vote for your future. Vote for your cocktails. Vote for me.
Vote Shin, for great cocktail hours. |

Shurikane
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:08:00 -
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Blah, blah, blah... Amarrians sure love their system but they can't tolerate others.
Sorry sir! You'll have to get used to the fact that there's more than just you in this world. After all, your people seem to have a pretty nice love-love relationship with the Caldari and don't complain.
I won't say that democracy is white as snow. Things could be improved and explain. I won't say either than the Amarrian imperial system is the root of all evil. It's got a rather good backbone. I'll even go so far as to say that both races could learn a few things from each other.
What do you think of this blasphemy, Archbishop? Ever believed opposites attract?
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Jonny Damordred
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi Vote for your future. Vote for your cocktails. Vote for me.
You have my vote! For great Cocktails!
Cheers, Jonny D.
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Rhuu
Gallente Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2006.10.08 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Gallente Democracy an Election of Despair
The beautiful thing about being a citizen of the universe and not a mindless follower of some inviolatable dogma is the fact that one can elect to despair without needing to be told.
Or elect not to because, well, despair is a bit draining.
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Khallen Davek
Gallente Magna Association of Gallentean Starpilots
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Posted - 2006.10.08 19:08:00 -
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While I consider myself a religious man, IÆm a little dismayed by this sermon. It seems that one of the unfortunate consequences of having a full-time clergy is that they feel obligated to preach sermons simply to justify their position. I see many parallels with our own news programs in the Federation. They show so many things that are obviously not newsworthy by any stretch of the imagination, but they have a show to put on and a time slot to fill. With a lack of real news, any subject, no matter how trite, seems to suffice.
I find it odd that the venerable Archbishop would address this particular sermon to his Amarrian flock. He tells them to stand firm and resist the evils of democracy, as if they had a choice. Until this point I was unaware that they had such a power to choose and IÆm more than a little curious to see how they would exercise it. To the best of my knowledge no campaign buttons are being handed out in their Empire.
That being said there are many aspects of this sermon that I agree with, but I doubt they really come as a surprise to anyone in the Federation or elsewhere. The words ôcorruptö and ôpoliticsö are practically synonymous in the Gallente vernacular. Plus one would have to be blind, deaf, near comatose, and living in a cave on an uncharted moon to miss the perversion and decadence spoken of by Archbishop.
But I would like to point out that the Federation is a ôdemocracyö. It is not an all-encompassing representation of ôdemocracyö per se. It is true that all of the flaws that Archbishop brings up are found in our democracy, but these are not the flaws of ôdemocracyö. The only flaw of democracy is that it is subject to the flaws of its people.
And therein lies the intrinsic beauty and ugliness of our democracy. It reflects us.
It is true that there have been many failures and there probably will be many more. But without the legitimate threat of failure there cannot exist the legitimate possibility of success. No matter how slim the chance of success in our Federation, it will always be greater than that which can be found under the whip of forced conformity.
And finally I take minor issue with your phrase to the Amarrians, ôTrue freedom comes from knowing God has chosenàö
It would seem to me that you are talking about GodÆs freedom to choose and not that of the Amarrians.
As your entire sermon is an attempt to guide and influence the choices of your Amarrian brethren, it would seem that we both agree that God has endowed his creations with the ability to choose. Therefore I think the phrase would be better stated as ôTrue freedom comes from choosing Godàö It is for that freedom, and many others, that I maintain that a democracy has the greatest potential for good of any known type of government. (However, to be fair it does have the ability to not live up to that potential to devastating effect.)
If God did not intend for his creations to use their ability to choose, that would make the Gallente near God-like with their obsession for drones. And nobody, Gallente, Amarrian, or otherwise would confuse the Gallente with being God-like.
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Ottom Ephesianos
Amarr Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.08 19:25:00 -
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Religion and affairs of the state have no place under the same roof save for home which a sermon is undoubtedly not. Priests belittling Gallente elections is only another sign to me of Amarr Empires weakening grip on overbearing controls they attempt to force through strategic religious and political maneuvers against their own citizens. It is unfortunate they have yet to find an Emperor so the Amarr territories can stop fence riding and the nation can proceed with self destruction, or the reparations. Perhaps that is what the stalling is for. |

Frater Patroabo
Gallente Placid Reborn Placid Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.08 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Khallen Davek The only flaw of democracy is that it is subject to the flaws of its people.
And therein lies the intrinsic beauty and ugliness of our democracy. It reflects us.
I would like to nominate this as the most succinct, all encompassing description of our form of government ever written. If you ever pass through Stacmon, stop & I'll buy you a beer.
May the Wise Bula smile upon you. |

Arushia
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.09 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop Truly this "democracy" is a recipe for despair and poverty. When forced to choose these Gallente seem to be reduced the candidate they view as the "lessor of two evils" a phrase I have heard several Gallente utter. Compare that "evil" to the holiness that is the Amarrian way of life.
Our people are strong enough and free enough to admit that our leaders are evil. Are yours?
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.09 05:31:00 -
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Quote:
Our people are strong enough and free enough to admit that our leaders are evil. Are yours?
You admit your sin this is a start. As for our Amarrian leaders being the chosen of God and the fact the Emperor is given to us through Gods grace I find the entire concept of "evil" something we dont have in the Empire.
An Empire such as Amarr is compassion and caring magnified far beyond the whims of lessor races. Indeed our programs to enlighten and rescue the downtrodden of other races shines as beacon in a universe of sin.
Your Gallente leaders are nothing but salesmen selling whatever the particular audience they're addressing wants to hear. You promise nothing and deliver even less. We're you to give the Gallente over to the Amarr for training and enlightenment rest assured they would learn the true nature of God and all His gifts would be forthcoming. A life without the lies of politicians is something I know you can only dream of.
Archbishop
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop
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Our people are strong enough and free enough to admit that our leaders are evil. Are yours?
You admit your sin this is a start. As for our Amarrian leaders being the chosen of God and the fact the Emperor is given to us through Gods grace I find the entire concept of "evil" something we dont have in the Empire.
The sins are of people not of systems. Before you start pointing fingers, try to look within your borders and identify the garbage you are hiding under the carpet, slaver.
We at least have the strength to name our flaws. And some of Gallente may repeat the same mistakes again and again, but the majority usually learns from their mistakes and gets better every time.
Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: An Empire such as Amarr is compassion and caring magnified far beyond the whims of lessor races. Indeed our programs to enlighten and rescue the downtrodden of other races shines as beacon in a universe of sin.
An Empire that looks like a sadistic tyrant, with the only goal to enslave the rest of the galaxy populance. Yes even the Caldari once they stop being a usefull ally due to their trade, or when you will think that you can win them with overwhelming odds, will become another race to be "enlightened".
As for the effort to hide the "lobotomy" procedures and tortures you use to enlighten the slaves you acquire with dubious and dark ways. Please spare us the boring lecture. If you like slaves do so by enslaving only your kind and leave the rest of the Galaxy at peace. We did not appoint you saviours of this Universe and frankly if the Galaxy ever entered that way to elect one, you would win the last place hand down.
Hypocrit you are preaching about the word and FEAR of your God, while after that you go to your private room to endulge yourself in despicable actions with your slaves, pretending that they have nothing to do with the Gallente way of life. You are worst because you choose not to accept your mistakes.
Originally by: Archbishop
Quote: Your Gallente leaders are nothing but salesmen selling whatever the particular audience they're addressing wants to hear. You promise nothing and deliver even less. We're you to give the Gallente over to the Amarr for training and enlightenment rest assured they would learn the true nature of God and all His gifts would be forthcoming. A life without the lies of politicians is something I know you can only dream of.
While you and your faction can't even bear the thought of living without your clergy. We at least have the guts to live by ourselves since we know what we are voting and have the guts to live with it. Should one choose not to do so, has the every possibility to do it. WITHOUT the fear that the door he just entered was closed behind him.
Dare you say that for your race Archibishop? Or are you too one of the sheeps that blindly follow?
------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
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Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.10 04:52:00 -
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Belief in God and its manifest destiny is the greatest strength of the Amarrian Empire. The late Doriam and the author of Pax Amarria himself preached welcoming those into the fold if they wish to serve the Empire and believe in the Divine.
In fact one of the greatest most respectable pilots and leaders of men serves God right now in the ranks of the CVA. The irony is he is Gallente.
As for Democracy being evil then I support Archbishop's claim. Democracy is insidious at best, based on capitalistic values (only a successful system because it preys upon the animal instincts of our ancestors.) The fact that Democracy is evil is the fact that it pretends to be something that it is not, it addicts people with untrue notions of personal thought. Whereas it motivates them to do what it wants them to do through suggestion and meme.
Many find Amarrian values dispicable, well I say to them. Amarrian values are pure because they're honest. What you see is what you get and if you drop to your knees and prey then you'll be welcome and considered Amarrian.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:44:00 -
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Oh joy another tirade against Gallente Democracy by mr. Archbishop. Democracy isnt inheirently evil; no form of government is. As an idea Democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the others yet devised. Its the people that make something good or bad, not the thing itself.
Now with regards to the current Presidential elections, I dont like the fact that Senator Blaque is ahead in the polls (for what little these things often count in heavily contested elections). I see him as a deamagogue (an unfortunate potential product of Democracy) rousing nationalist furvor with little substance to what he actually says. But id rather have an elected president i dont like then a "divinely" appointed tyrannical despot in power. At least the former is restrained by constitution & law as opposed to the latter, for whome the only real control is their conscience.
So while what some of what u have said in this sermen is of merit, most is a mere tirade against a system u seemingly dont understand. Life in the federation isnt perfect, but none of the empires can really claim that life in their territory is. & even if it is all just an illusion, at least the ideas of Freedom & Choise can be said to exist in a Democracy. Such principles are for the most part incompatible with Tyrrany, however benevolent a tyrrany it may be.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.11 01:53:00 -
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I just think it's amusing that a guy from an empire with no leader is railing against a nation that's choosing a leader.
I mean, isn't the Emperor a gift from God, or something? What does it say, then, if God won't give you one?
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.10.11 01:58:00 -
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God doesn't love uptight Holders?
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Pezzle
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.10.11 03:10:00 -
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It says nothing actually.
The unfortunate truth of the Democratic system the Gallente employ is it only encourages further wonton desire, and a loss of the one thing the freedom lovers cherish most.. the self.
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Toranaga Ieyasu
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pezzle ...it only encourages further wonton desire, and a loss of the one thing the freedom lovers cherish most..
The ability to spell. Wonton is a Jin-mei delicacy, a dollop of filling wrapped in a tender thin pastry and often served in soup. Wanton means irresponsibly hedonistic.
Or are you saying that the Jin-Mei are taking over the Universe? Dammit, I always miss the important newsletters.
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Pezzle
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Toranaga Ieyasu
Originally by: Pezzle ...it only encourages further wonton desire, and a loss of the one thing the freedom lovers cherish most..
The ability to spell. Wonton is a Jin-mei delicacy, a dollop of filling wrapped in a tender thin pastry and often served in soup. Wanton means irresponsibly hedonistic.
Or are you saying that the Jin-Mei are taking over the Universe? Dammit, I always miss the important newsletters.
No, but I do believe you have elevated yourself to the lofty position of a Bovine forum snail, well done!
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Sintasi
Kokyu Trust Fund
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:43:00 -
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I for one enjoy a good Won-Ton.
Can they take over the cluster. If properly made: Yes ! ___________________________
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Toranaga Ieyasu
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sintasi Can they take over the cluster. If properly made: Yes!
The hedonist who forgets the basics of life winds up in the soup.
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Anatolius
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi I just think it's amusing that a guy from an empire with no leader is railing against a nation that's choosing a leader.
I mean, isn't the Emperor a gift from God, or something? What does it say, then, if God won't give you one?
It says very little. An Emperor is not some sort of prize, to be found by children in boxes of their favorite cereal. When God wills that there be an Emperor; once more, that most sacred position will be filled by one of His most worthy servants. In the meantime, the Empire serves God as always, and we appear to be doing quite well for it. Amusing how the same can't be said for the leaderless Federation.
But as it were, may I offer pre-emptory congratulations? I have no doubt that promises of liquor distribution are all it will take for the rabble of the Federation to demand you lead them. I must express amusement at the idea; that none of their doublespeaking politicians have thought of it before you.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.11 20:29:00 -
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Thank you, Anatolius. I do aim to please.
Vote Shin, for great cocktail hours. |

Elrianmk2
Gallente Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.11 21:38:00 -
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Here is an idea slaver, why dont you try coming over to one of the less hedonistic planets and see what life is really like. Ahh that surprises you doesnt it. Try removing your filthy little blinkers you sadistic little slaver. Wake up and realise your corrut system has no rights whatsoever in the Free democrasy we have.
Take you vile viewpoints and stick 'em up your jumper Amarr, or others will, whats the phrase you like using?
Re-educate you.
Ushra'Khan Fighting for your freedom. ----- If it wasnt for bad luck i would have no luck at all The only certainties are death and taxes.
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Vlad Konstantinov
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Soratah ...if you drop to your knees and prey then you'll be welcome and considered Amarrian.
Let me add that the knees will be broken on those who do not. ---
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