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evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:12:00 - [1] we need to rebuild the forums. So who do you think is building the next one, BOB, RISE, an Empire Alliance? lol ----------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:18:00 - [2] Heh, I bet it'll be BoB. Their e-Peen is hurting now that ASCN have got one first, they need to reclaim their Super Alliance Awesome EVE Winners title that has been so cruelly snatched away
Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:19:00 - [3] Rise? RISE? Originally by: ParMizaN evry1ghasb a limiy... ...and ijust reached it ahaha... this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer [limegreen]I a
wierchas noobhunter Caldari Praxiteles Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:20:00 - [4] d2 plz make bob to hurt more ! join me be cool
Emily Spankratchet Minmatar Pragmatics	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:20:00 - [5] I was surprised it wasn't BoB who got there first, but I know very little about current aliance politics. I thought the whole stomping-on-Titan-builders thing was so that they could get there first. Was it just that ASCN have a bigger industrial base?
Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Emily Spankratchet I was surprised it wasn't BoB who got there first, but I know very little about current aliance politics. I thought the whole stomping-on-Titan-builders thing was so that they could get there first. Was it just that ASCN have a bigger industrial base? I think it was ascn keeping fairly quiet and so avoiding stompage. Originally by: ParMizaN evry1ghasb a limiy... ...and ijust reached it ahaha... this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer [limegreen]I a
xlop Gallente Yes no maybe - i dont know	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:33:00 - [7] the first titan is always the hardest :P so methinks ascn will have the second titan and perhaps a third titan before any of the others but imo whats really important is to see who gets the first fleet of titans, which ever allaince gets 15-20titans first will definitly control most of 0.0 until another allaince also gets a fleet of titans so why would anyone want 15-20titans? how does insta pop dreads in siege sound? no one will be able to take down your POS or at lest without risking 20dreads doing it -- Imperial College London FTW --
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:37:00 - [8] Titan v Titan combat would be very interesting; the ultimate question is, now that the biggest ship in EVE has been built... What now? Variations on a theme, using the same hull designs? New tiers of Titans, capitals, and normal ships that might come from the battles of Kali, perhaps even obsoleting the older versions? Or new tech levels? Trying to stay on topic, ASCN and BoB are the two superpowers atm. If it wasn't for the war, both of them would be assured to build the next one, but factoring that in, I suppose the non-superpower alliances could have a chance, like LV, D2... Tharsis!
Godar Marak Amarr Return Of Red Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:39:00 - [9] Edited by: Godar Marak on 08/10/2006 11:42:09 Edited by: Godar Marak on 08/10/2006 11:41:07 T2 titan, 80% resistance across the board, ship does not dissapear when logging off, cloning bay and stuff still works even if pilot is logged off.....or something. edit : Or a pvp titan. Example amarr t2 titan : 20 highslots 8 medslot (lolz) 20 lowslots lol However, ship can only use guns guns guns and not much else. Imagine, seeing this very very very very big ship shooting dusins of laser beams out in all directions! Just a fantasy out of the top of my head. THinking out of the box ftw.
coldplasma	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:40:00 - [10] Doom Star class ftw :) ____________________________ See you in 0.0 kids...
Hypo Psycho Minmatar Universal Industries PLC.	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:43:00 - [11] owning a ship you have to live in, the rest of your eve life?? not my idea of fun also i have heard rumuors that BoB built the first Titan but have managed to keep it a secret (cant see how they kept it from CCP though) "see you on the other side"
evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 11:45:00 - [12] CCP is all knowing, and rumour you heard is just that. ----------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.10.08 12:52:00 - [13] It wont be BOB, their weapons can't break that asteroids tank.
Savio Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.10.08 13:48:00 - [14] Next new big ship will be.. Yes.. DEATH STAR how ever i think BoB will get the next titan, and ASCN is probaly working on their seccond.. . Need a Sign? Click Here
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.08 13:55:00 - [15] Next capital ship is clearly going to be a capital mining/factory ship.
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.08 13:56:00 - [16] Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 08/10/2006 13:57:23 what i dont get is how ASCN got people to do alll that hauling and allll that mining without any of the chars putting two and two together and realising what they were contributing to? anyway back to mining all that veld cos the corp said they needed it!
Happydayz FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:17:00 - [17] Originally by: xlop but imo whats really important is to see who gets the first fleet of titans, which ever allaince gets 15-20titans first will definitly control most of 0.0 until another allaince also gets a fleet of titans w-hat? at most I can see someone wanting all 4 types of titans so you could stack all their bonuses together during fleet ops. Just park them in a POS and let the incredible bonuses benefit your entire gang. But 15-20 per alliance? I think you need to check the mineral requirements for a titan again.
Cattraknoff Caldari Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 08/10/2006 13:57:23 what i dont get is how ASCN got people to do alll that hauling and allll that mining without any of the chars putting two and two together and realising what they were contributing to? anyway back to mining all that veld cos the corp said they needed it! We don't care what we're mining for, as long as we're told it'll help the alliance
spiralJunkie Minmatar Eve Radio Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:18:00 - [19] i'm pretty sure that propaganda aside, BoB had an Amarr Titan built in the summer. They just didnt feel the need to flop it out _ The pundits in the studio are talking , and despite not knowing what any of this means I am riveted
Ange1 Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:33:00 - [20] ISS still need to build DeMundus' Titan for him The Establishment is at your service...
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:38:00 - [21] Originally by: spiralJunkie i'm pretty sure that propaganda aside, BoB had an Amarr Titan built in the summer. They just didnt feel the need to flop it out Not according to CCP. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:45:00 - [22] The question is do the titan bonuses stack? IE, what happens if 2 Avatars in the game?
Eternal Fury Caldari Shadow Of The Light	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:46:00 - [23] I doubt you'll see more then say 4 or 5 titans per alliance.. Anything bigger then that is just too much of a resource drain. And if they're anything like the ones on test months ago. 10-15 bs's can take them down reasonably fast.. They WOULD be great for invadeing eachothers territory, or for when the new regions open up. And like someone suggested. Havieng one of each with their bonus's overlapping would REALLY sway the tide in some battles. Shadow Of The Light
spiralJunkie Minmatar Eve Radio Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 14:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: spiralJunkie i'm pretty sure that propaganda aside, BoB had an Amarr Titan built in the summer. They just didnt feel the need to flop it out Not according to CCP. people keep saying that. now i'm not hugely up on current 0.0 politics and so on, but apart from Kieron's congratulations on building a first titan (which is far off an official CCP announcement), has there been any Icelandic Word? _ The pundits in the studio are talking , and despite not knowing what any of this means I am riveted
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:02:00 - [25] Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: spiralJunkie i'm pretty sure that propaganda aside, BoB had an Amarr Titan built in the summer. They just didnt feel the need to flop it out Not according to CCP. people keep saying that. now i'm not hugely up on current 0.0 politics and so on, but apart from Kieron's congratulations on building a first titan (which is far off an official CCP announcement), has there been any Icelandic Word? Oveur congratulated them on the first titan on TQ in the huge thread someplace. --- Cache Clearer Still waiting for a Wrangler-edit!
Peter Stuyvesant Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:17:00 - [26] Originally by: Official News Item FEYTHABOLIS. Yesterday at approximately 12:20 New Eden Time, the Ascendant Frontier Alliance (ASCN) deployed the first capsuleer owned and built Titan into the AZN-D2 system. Linkage So either CCP are telling fibs to protect BOB (Note: I'm not suggesting for a moment that this is the case) or ASCN had the first. Believe whichever you wish.
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.10.08 15:49:00 - [27] Edited by: Zhaine on 08/10/2006 15:49:32 Originally by: Peter Stuyvesant Originally by: Official News Item FEYTHABOLIS. Yesterday at approximately 12:20 New Eden Time, the Ascendant Frontier Alliance (ASCN) deployed the first capsuleer owned and built Titan into the AZN-D2 system. Linkage So either CCP are telling fibs to protect BOB (Note: I'm not suggesting for a moment that this is the case) or ASCN had the first. Believe whichever you wish. Gah do people not get it? That is a role played announcement. It is what the RP in game ISD media or whatever you want to call them know, not what CCP know from doing out of game server queries. If the player's don't know, if it is not announced or spoken about by players to ISD representatives, then it is not ISD's business to reveal alliances secrets by looking at CCP's database. News announcements of this kind are no different to what players already know, or at least what can be read on the forums or find out from being there. This doesn't mean BoB do or don't have a Titan, it just means that it's stupid to use it as proof that they or anyone else doesn't. I haven't read Oveur's post from the thread, so perhaps it's worded differently and does indeed provide proof that ASCN's is the only Titan in game, but if so I would be dissapointed. - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Thommy	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:01:00 - [28] Will be very interesting to see who's getting the next titan out of the factory's. An interesting new ship i think either an ship with cloaking bubble which allows to cloak an gang within 15km untill someone activates guns / targets a player like with normal cloak except this can keep your support hidden and lure out an response. Another idea an ship with metamorph capability which makes you look like an frigate or an innocent roid for anyone till they get to close or you start takeing actions (weapons cause disruptions in the field etc) Id rather see some special buildings which can be deployed anywhere except with stargates, roid fields, deadspace etc. Buildings like boosting arrays which could take for example cap batteries for cap recharge and other stuff for shield, armor and hull repair and maybe even deployables like the npc towers (sentry, missile, cap suckers and webbers / jammers) which are very weak ones though and need an special mod on the ship to activate (command ship option? or any ship?). Guide to fix eve problems. Cleanup your cache with my cache tool
Vexoth	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:05:00 - [29] Indeed. If BoB, or any other entity, had built the first Titan wanting to keep it a secret, then CCP would have respected that.
evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:24:00 - [30] I do not think we will see fleets of titians anytime soon. 15 titians would cost about 60 billion per titian, thats 900 billion there. 900 billion will get you 400 over Dreads or 600 over carriers, in terms of raw deployment of power, its not as effective to have 15 titians. Holding on to several hundread captial ships, can project more power and hurt more people for the same money. The main draw back is the logistics required to support it. ----------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:28:00 - [31] Originally by: spiralJunkie i'm pretty sure that propaganda aside, BoB had an Amarr Titan built in the summer. They just didnt feel the need to flop it out from what i heard, they were close, but it got popped before it could be completed... or was that someone else. either way, if BoB had one, we'd know about it, they'd be slapping ASCN left right and centre with it. however, i'd put my money on BoB getting the next one... that said, with them distracted by the war, ASCN might be able to begin the construction of a second one (since they appear to have had the biggest industrial base). ========================================== Iy
spiralJunkie Minmatar Eve Radio Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Grez Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: spiralJunkie i'm pretty sure that propaganda aside, BoB had an Amarr Titan built in the summer. They just didnt feel the need to flop it out Not according to CCP. people keep saying that. now i'm not hugely up on current 0.0 politics and so on, but apart from Kieron's congratulations on building a first titan (which is far off an official CCP announcement), has there been any Icelandic Word? Oveur congratulated them on the first titan on TQ in the huge thread someplace. i didn't know that, i'd only seen Kieron's congratulations. but is oveur congratulating someone REALLY an official announcement? the news story is, as someone pointed out, ingame RP. i'm just playing devil's advocate here due to a single t shirt _ The pundits in the studio are talking , and despite not knowing what any of this means I am riveted
Marnix Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:34:00 - [33] For those of you doubting that alliances will build fleets of Titans. Look what happened with Dreads. Did anyone guess that alliances and even single corporations, would own 30+ Dreads? Hell no. Titans will be even worse, because as pointed out they offer total security when used properly and in large enough numbers. Being stuck in the Titan is the least of one's worries tbh - its an advantage. All the Titans will be on alts or mains of the trusted leaders and them never leaving it will mean it cannot be stolen. And remote cyno bombing will mean the chance of them dieing is...minimal at best. Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
Marnix Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:38:00 - [34] Originally by: evistin will get you 400 over Dreads or 600 over carriers, in terms of raw deployment of power, its not as effective to have 15 titians. Holding on to several hundread captial ships, can project more power and hurt more people for the same money. The main draw back is the logistics required to support it. Oh yes, 400 Dreads. 400 Dreads will need 400 pilots though, and 15 Titans only need 15. Would you rather have a fleet of 15 Titans and 385 Battleships, or 400 Dreads and no support whatsoever? Because VERY few alliances are capable of fielding 400 ships alltogether, including tech1 frigs and whatever. Oh, and give me an Interdictor and 50 Battleships versus that 400 Dread fleet and ill *****it. Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
Khemul Zula Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2006.10.08 16:42:00 - [35] I won't pretend to know whether the ASCN titan was first or not. I have heard plenty of claims that it is not but since no one can really prove either way argueing it is a little silly. As far as I know though BoB hasn't claimed to have built one yet. All they've said is someone else did. Saying that CCP stated this was first is proof is rather silly. Hypothetically lets say someone else did build one first. Obviously they don't want this fact know (see Great Southern War for a reason why). Now since they don't want this known, logic would dictate that they don't care about being given credit for the first titan. Since ASCN announced the first Titan they will get the credit since the first builder gave up this right. It would be rather irresponsible of CCP to even hint that someone had a Titan in this situation since the real first builder doesn't want to be known. It's simple. CCP can't really say who built the first one. How would you feel if you spent months hiding this huge project just to have CCP tell everyone? CCP also can't tell ASCN, "Congragulations but an unknown party already built one." That'd be almost as bad and plain silly. ASCN announced it first, they get credit. Whether it is true or not doesn't matter. This is what history will see. "Everytime you mine Veldspar God kills a kitten."
xlop Gallente Yes no maybe - i dont know	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Khemul Zula I won't pretend to know whether the ASCN titan was first or not. I have heard plenty of claims that it is not but since no one can really prove either way argueing it is a little silly. As far as I know though BoB hasn't claimed to have built one yet. All they've said is someone else did. Saying that CCP stated this was first is proof is rather silly. Hypothetically lets say someone else did build one first. Obviously they don't want this fact know (see Great Southern War for a reason why). Now since they don't want this known, logic would dictate that they don't care about being given credit for the first titan. Since ASCN announced the first Titan they will get the credit since the first builder gave up this right. It would be rather irresponsible of CCP to even hint that someone had a Titan in this situation since the real first builder doesn't want to be known. It's simple. CCP can't really say who built the first one. How would you feel if you spent months hiding this huge project just to have CCP tell everyone? CCP also can't tell ASCN, "Congragulations but an unknown party already built one." That'd be almost as bad and plain silly. ASCN announced it first, they get credit. Whether it is true or not doesn't matter. This is what history will see. if it was not the first, they would not of posted well done for being the first. they would of just not said anything hope that makes sense, and its proof enough that they where the first and there are probably not any other titans ingame atm. -- Imperial College London FTW --
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:36:00 - [37] I can't help but chuckle at this thread, conspiracy theories for the win Eve Blacklight Style
xlop Gallente Yes no maybe - i dont know	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Blacklight I can't help but chuckle at this thread, conspiracy theories for the win thought you guys only get paid to post on the "Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions" threads. -- Imperial College London FTW --
zeKzn Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:51:00 - [39] Originally by: xlop if it was not the first, they would not of posted well done for being the first. they would of just not said anything hope that makes sense, and its proof enough that they where the first and there are probably not any other titans ingame atm. regardless of the facts, your logic is flawed. ____ Itty-Bitty Crow <3
xlop Gallente Yes no maybe - i dont know	Posted - 2006.10.08 17:55:00 - [40] Edited by: xlop on 08/10/2006 17:55:12 Originally by: zeKzn Originally by: xlop if it was not the first, they would not of posted well done for being the first. they would of just not said anything hope that makes sense, and its proof enough that they where the first and there are probably not any other titans ingame atm. regardless of the facts, your logic is flawed. no, if acsn did not have the first titan, CCP would not have posted anything, there was no need to if that was the fact but ccp did post, and they did say it was the first. but who the hell cares, at lest ascn use their real titan, bob or whoever has yet to use their imaginary titans -- Imperial College London FTW --
zeKzn Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.08 18:00:00 - [41] Originally by: xlop no, if acsn did not have the first titan, CCP would not have posted anything, there was no need to if that was the fact but ccp did post, and they did say it was the first. but who the hell cares, at lest ascn use their real titan, bob or whoever has yet to use their imaginary titans well, obviously you care, since you continue to argue. there was arguably a need to post, because if they had revealed the existance of a titan that the owners didn't want revealed, directly or indirectly, it would have a rather severe effect on the game, which they try to avoid. you cannot know what they would or would not do, nor what there was or was not a need for, unless you are them. ____ Itty-Bitty Crow <3
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.08 18:04:00 - [42] why are people still arguing the titan point? Don't you believe SirMolle when he said "when really dont have a titan really, sorry!" you think it was a lie and the secretly do have one in hiding and they built it first but are hiding it? look in the alliances forum, they made a thread detailing the siege of Tpar-g and let everyone know about the salughter of 76-1 battleships against ASCN a few days back (which is a great achievement btw, not trying to take that away from you) so the idea that BoB would keep the first titan secret is a bit silly, it would be very out of character. It's a titan a massive massive achievement why would anyone keep it quiet?
zeKzn Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.08 18:10:00 - [43] Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz why are people still arguing the titan point? I'm pointing out flawed logic, I dont care whether the subject has been beaten to death, flawed logic should not go unnoticed. ____ Itty-Bitty Crow <3
Khemul Zula Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2006.10.08 18:14:00 - [44] Silence is about the worst option CCP has. This was a major news item, CCP could not simply ignore it. Silence would sent two messages to the player base, either someone has a titan already or CCP no longer cares about what happens in EVE. Both of which are not really good option. But as I said (if some people would actually read before responding), ASCN announced it first so it doesn't really matter who built the first one. It might have been ASCN, it might not have been. They will get credit for being first. "Everytime you mine Veldspar God kills a kitten."
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 18:44:00 - [45] If the party concerned do not want their achievement to be public knowledge, CCP will keep it quiet. But regarding the titan.. Quote: BoB does not have a titan BoB is not building a titan. BoB will never have a titan. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Dahin Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.08 18:58:00 - [46] /me shakes head 1st) The report means that ASCN requested the post and partially provided the text. This in NO way means it was the first titan build attempt or first completed titan. 2nd) Declaring to the world that you have a titan negates the surprise element, which can easily get you no less than 100 kills in 1 second. I consider ASCN announcement a huge mistake, but maybe it was forced since you can't exactly keep secrets down there. The fact is that we will have to wait a looooong time till we can say for sure who tried/built the first titan.
RescueBabe	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:19:00 - [47] Once you have the BPO, 1 Titan = 2 Outpost to build, how many Outpost does ASCN have built up to now? Yeah, i guess they will build many more Titans
maria stallion Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:24:00 - [48] in the end it will be not the question of who has a titan, but who has how many titans. But I still think the titan is very limited at this point.
Yaay Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.08 19:34:00 - [49] There are already more than one out there... infact, ASCN was just the first to go public about theres.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:39:00 - [50] CCP never said that they did a database query to confirm that it was the first titan. It could very well be the 10th titan, it could be just the first Titan thats been publically announced. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.10.08 20:47:00 - [51] Thank you BOB alts. Stop stirring the brown stuff, ok? Untill theres reports of cyno fields exploding in areas other than ASCN territory then trying to diminish ASCNs achievement will fail. Just quit it. Your name does not contain a W and a shrub. Hell even your leaders have axnowlaged it so goddam stop it. you are just poaring the rest of the comminuty to death eith it rather than shooting them to death. Get back to what you can actually do. Ok? And yes CCP would keep quiet if the people involved asked them to. No they would not lie when someome else comes out with one. They would simply say they could not do that
zeKzn Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:03:00 - [52] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Thank you BOB alts. Stop stirring the brown stuff, ok? Untill theres reports of cyno fields exploding in areas other than ASCN territory then trying to diminish ASCNs achievement will fail. Just quit it. Your name does not contain a W and a shrub. Hell even your leaders have axnowlaged it so goddam stop it. you are just poaring the rest of the comminuty to death eith it rather than shooting them to death. Get back to what you can actually do. Ok? And yes CCP would keep quiet if the people involved asked them to. No they would not lie when someome else comes out with one. They would simply say they could not do that oh just shut up ____ Itty-Bitty Crow <3
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:08:00 - [53] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Thank you BOB alts. Stop stirring the brown stuff, ok? Untill theres reports of cyno fields exploding in areas other than ASCN territory then trying to diminish ASCNs achievement will fail. Just quit it. Your name does not contain a W and a shrub. Hell even your leaders have axnowlaged it so goddam stop it. you are just poaring the rest of the comminuty to death eith it rather than shooting them to death. Get back to what you can actually do. Ok? And yes CCP would keep quiet if the people involved asked them to. No they would not lie when someome else comes out with one. They would simply say they could not do that lol it's always BoB alts.... We can cause more tinfoil asshattery on our mains and don't need alts. We definitely do not have a Titan though. Eve Blacklight Style
Wotar	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:16:00 - [54] /me notices the bolding ^ the plot thickens...
Brenda Bloom	Posted - 2006.10.08 21:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Marnix For those of you doubting that alliances will build fleets of Titans. Look what happened with Dreads. Did anyone guess that alliances and even single corporations, would own 30+ Dreads? Hell no. Yeah, except you know, Dreadnoughts are actually useful and titans are entirely pointless without the cloning bays and jump hole module. The only reason anyone would ever want more than the 4 titans (for the bonuses) would be if they stacked, which I seriously doubt.
aggiedog	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:00:00 - [56] I would have to guess D2 would be the next ones to get one. I mean, what are they doing way up North anyways....... --------------------------------------------- Forum Wars!...Because the battlefeild is laggy.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:54:00 - [57] Originally by: Wotar /me notices the bolding ^ the plot thickens... A travling birdy told me that they have 3. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Phyrr	Posted - 2006.10.08 23:18:00 - [58] Originally by: evistin I do not think we will see fleets of titians anytime soon. 15 titians would cost about 60 billion per titian, thats 900 billion there. 900 billion will get you 400 over Dreads or 600 over carriers, in terms of raw deployment of power, its not as effective to have 15 titians. Holding on to several hundread captial ships, can project more power and hurt more people for the same money. The main draw back is the logistics required to support it. so by your measure and reasoning maybe we should all stay flying frigates? If we are talking isk value and relative numbers of pilots?
Jiara Castoumi Caldari Contract Accountancy Service	Posted - 2006.10.09 00:54:00 - [59] frigates > titans in firgates everyone has fun in a titan only one person has fun, if thats fun at all - Contract Accountancy Service -
evistin Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.09 01:30:00 - [60] Originally by: Phyrr so by your measure and reasoning maybe we should all stay flying frigates? If we are talking isk value and relative numbers of pilots? Well its more about the abilty to project power, frigates can't Battleships fleets can, but a few captial ships is all that is needed. ----------- Management and Leadership û The Eve-online Guide
Dahin Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.09 01:41:00 - [61] did anyone sit to think what happens when an alliance/group of people has 3-4 titans? Ever thought what happens to a group of dreads when they get hit by 3-4 superweapons simultaneously?
Lord Sid Minmatar Lordless	Posted - 2006.10.09 04:43:00 - [62] Originally by: xlop a fleet of titans would indeed be a massive drain on any allaince, but it can be done and probably will be done the reason is, once you have 15 titans you have total security allaince A decides to take over your space, after some time they need to start attacking your POS, with many dreads in siege mode. that gives u an opertunity to cyno the 15-20 titans in, warp a frig to the pos and open up a cyno at the pos. then 15-20 doomsdays sent in and instapop the sieged dreads. it would basicly make taking POS down extreamly hard and very risky! as for the price of a titan, once you have the bpo and pos and all that, each extra one only cots about 60bil isk. i think any superweapon that can wipe out a fleet of dreads is probably going to do the same to the pos they are attacking. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=-
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.10.09 05:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Lord Sid Originally by: xlop a fleet of titans would indeed be a massive drain on any allaince, but it can be done and probably will be done the reason is, once you have 15 titans you have total security allaince A decides to take over your space, after some time they need to start attacking your POS, with many dreads in siege mode. that gives u an opertunity to cyno the 15-20 titans in, warp a frig to the pos and open up a cyno at the pos. then 15-20 doomsdays sent in and instapop the sieged dreads. it would basicly make taking POS down extreamly hard and very risky! as for the price of a titan, once you have the bpo and pos and all that, each extra one only cots about 60bil isk. i think any superweapon that can wipe out a fleet of dreads is probably going to do the same to the pos they are attacking. I was completely unaware of the fact that lately, POSes have about the same amount of "modified hitpoints" as a Dread in siege mode... sheesh. __ Always question everything. Including yourself.
X ChaosX Caldari Panzershrek	Posted - 2006.10.09 06:13:00 - [64] Edited by: X ChaosX on 09/10/2006 06:13:49 Originally by: Lord Sid Originally by: xlop a fleet of titans would indeed be a massive drain on any allaince, but it can be done and probably will be done the reason is, once you have 15 titans you have total security allaince A decides to take over your space, after some time they need to start attacking your POS, with many dreads in siege mode. that gives u an opertunity to cyno the 15-20 titans in, warp a frig to the pos and open up a cyno at the pos. then 15-20 doomsdays sent in and instapop the sieged dreads. it would basicly make taking POS down extreamly hard and very risky! as for the price of a titan, once you have the bpo and pos and all that, each extra one only cots about 60bil isk. i think any superweapon that can wipe out a fleet of dreads is probably going to do the same to the pos they are attacking. Reinforced mode ftw. I would stick my pos in reinforced to wipe out 15-20 dreads + support. ______________________________________________ Originally by: Bill Shankly i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are.
Discodude Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 06:38:00 - [65] Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 08/10/2006 13:57:23 what i dont get is how ASCN got people to do alll that hauling and allll that mining without any of the chars putting two and two together and realising what they were contributing to? anyway back to mining all that veld cos the corp said they needed it! Well TBH I believe the news story was wrong...why because when I was in ASCN I knew EXACTLY what I was mining for. I wasn't in no high up position either, just a general grunt. The only thing I didn't know was where it was being built or when it was avalable. As for the hauling...I'm betting the pos's that built the titan were in a system with a outpost for minimal hauling and max security. Freighters took the mins to the outpost and a selected group of haulers (who knew what they were hauling for, but were highly trusted by leadership and sworn to secrecy) hauled all the **** to the pos's. Then out comes titan a bit later. Oh and I'm betting that wether another alliance gets the 2nd titan or not, ASCN will have another out soon, because when all the corps were mining for the titan, the general info was that we were mining enough mins for 2 titans.
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:51:00 - [66] If people really want to know who built the first titan(s), I would suggest you see red. The russians are sneaky, y'know. ~Dobbs. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:08:00 - [67] Originally by: Dahin did anyone sit to think what happens when an alliance/group of people has 3-4 titans? Ever thought what happens to a group of dreads when they get hit by 3-4 superweapons simultaneously? yes, but would it take 3 cyno fields or could they all manage to trigger at once? Would it be worth the rick of one not firing to use only one cyno field?
Dahin Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.10 02:05:00 - [68] Originally by: Hennry Fromer Originally by: Dahin did anyone sit to think what happens when an alliance/group of people has 3-4 titans? Ever thought what happens to a group of dreads when they get hit by 3-4 superweapons simultaneously? yes, but would it take 3 cyno fields or could they all manage to trigger at once? Would it be worth the rick of one not firing to use only one cyno field? OR they could just send one suicide cyno friggie after the other OR they'd just fire all together and not care about timing because it takes 15-20 secs for the weapon to go off. It's really details, isn't it? The whole point is that 3-4 active titans make any 50%+ pos'ed up system of a mediocre alliance practically unsiegable, or siegable at a terrible cost (like 100x more expensive to the attacker).
Tanis Kvanz	Posted - 2006.10.10 03:11:00 - [69] Originally by: Himo Amasacia It wont be BOB, their weapons can't break that asteroids tank. They don't need to, they'll win it in an event.
Yoko Milan Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.10 05:15:00 - [70] Well now that the first Titan has taken to the field I would be curious to hear about the ins and outs of how it works. I've read posts of people complaining that properly tanked battleships can tank the superweapon. Others saying that on the test servers whenever someone brought out a Titan in a fleet battle it was instantly declared primary and never lasted long enough for anyone to really see what it could do. One other thought, can you insure Titans and Motherships since they can't dock at an NPC station? RL "My front door is Gate Camped"

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