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Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
70
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:17:02 -
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I'm talking about overall advice on approaching the game. I think a lot of other games rely on constant forward progress to motivate players, but I don't think this translates well to eve, where going backwards (losing ships etc) is a completely normal part of the game.
Here are some of my general pieces of advice for anyone playing eve:
Don't play to make isk Eve has so many different things to offer that it is easy to get caught up in the isk grind (mining and missions) and miss the fun. Try different things, even (and especially) things that don't seem to earn much isk or lose isk. This is where you find the truly fun parts of eve. Sure sometimes you'll need to work for a bit of isk to pay for ships, but most of the time if you try out new things the isk will slowly come in while you're playing the game.
Risk dying This might sound like it's in conflict with the point above, but they actually go hand in hand. If you don't focus on isk, it doesn't feel like that much of a loss when you lose a ship. Losing ships is normal. It's great if you're trying something new, learning a new part of the game and getting out there and involved. The main pull of this game for me is the feeling you get when you put your ship on the line to try something out. This won't happen sitting safely in NPC corps mining and missioning. Try new things!
Don't fly what you can't afford This means different things for different people. For some this means have enough isk in your wallet to replace what you're flying. To me it doesn't. To me it means fly what you are willing to lose. I'll sometimes fly 300mil isk ships with only 50mil in my wallet. If I lose that ship there is always another ship to fly. I can always buy a 20mil ship and play with that while slowly watching the isk come in for the next ship. Quite often you'll find if you're just playing the game and not grinding isk, the ship will pay itself back. If it doesn't and you lose it, you're next ship might pay for itself 10 times over, who knows.
Get involved in communities Look for friendly chat channels in your timezone, find groups of people to play with (you don't have to join a corp, there are groups that run events and fleets for anyone). You can play eve solo, but it limits what you can do and other players are far and away the best source of both information and fun (often called 'content' by older eve players). Join up with people and do stuff, even if it doesn't seem like the best way to make isk, even if it means you might die. Risk getting scammed and killed, it might hurt a bit when you lose a ship or two, but in the long run you'll find great people to play with and possibilities will continue to open up. And trust me, it never takes long to find an experienced player willing to throw a few million isk your way to help you get started.
Make the most of online resources There are many online resources containing ridiculous amounts of information on eve. One of the best ones is the eve-uni wiki. It has heaps of well presented information. Eve-central is a great market tool for looking up prices etc. Kill boards can be great for looking up other players kills etc to get an idea of where they usually play and if they're a threat to you. Map sites give you great information on dangerous areas of space or looking up info on Wormholes.
What are your general bits of advice for new players? |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
22981
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:18:18 -
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Don't mine.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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The Greenmachine Greenmachine
Green's Bicycle Shop
105
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:20:11 -
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its the things the tutorials don't tell you, but what your own curiosity can find that makes the good iskies |

JackknifedII
The Congregation
74
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:25:19 -
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The first question I ask anyone before they join my corp:
Do you get pissed off when you die?
The advice I would give is remembering that losing ships is part of the game. And if you can't handle that, then you won't enjoy eve much.
Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....
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Nate Hill
The Scope Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:34:04 -
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Join New Order. |

corebloodbrothers
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
1177
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:43:10 -
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Davis TetrisKing wrote:I'm talking about overall advice on approaching the game. I think a lot of other games rely on constant forward progress to motivate players, but I don't think this translates well to eve, where going backwards (losing ships etc) is a completely normal part of the game.
Here are some of my general pieces of advice for anyone playing eve:
Don't play to make isk Eve has so many different things to offer that it is easy to get caught up in the isk grind (mining and missions) and miss the fun. Try different things, even (and especially) things that don't seem to earn much isk or lose isk. This is where you find the truly fun parts of eve. Sure sometimes you'll need to work for a bit of isk to pay for ships, but most of the time if you try out new things the isk will slowly come in while you're playing the game.
Risk dying This might sound like it's in conflict with the point above, but they actually go hand in hand. If you don't focus on isk, it doesn't feel like that much of a loss when you lose a ship. Losing ships is normal. It's great if you're trying something new, learning a new part of the game and getting out there and involved. The main pull of this game for me is the feeling you get when you put your ship on the line to try something out. This won't happen sitting safely in NPC corps mining and missioning. Try new things!
Don't fly what you can't afford This means different things for different people. For some this means have enough isk in your wallet to replace what you're flying. To me it doesn't. To me it means fly what you are willing to lose. I'll sometimes fly 300mil isk ships with only 50mil in my wallet. If I lose that ship there is always another ship to fly. I can always buy a 20mil ship and play with that while slowly watching the isk come in for the next ship. Quite often you'll find if you're just playing the game and not grinding isk, the ship will pay itself back. If it doesn't and you lose it, you're next ship might pay for itself 10 times over, who knows.
Get involved in communities Look for friendly chat channels in your timezone, find groups of people to play with (you don't have to join a corp, there are groups that run events and fleets for anyone). You can play eve solo, but it limits what you can do and other players are far and away the best source of both information and fun (often called 'content' by older eve players). Join up with people and do stuff, even if it doesn't seem like the best way to make isk, even if it means you might die. Risk getting scammed and killed, it might hurt a bit when you lose a ship or two, but in the long run you'll find great people to play with and possibilities will continue to open up. And trust me, it never takes long to find an experienced player willing to throw a few million isk your way to help you get started.
Make the most of online resources There are many online resources containing ridiculous amounts of information on eve. One of the best ones is the eve-uni wiki. It has heaps of well presented information. Eve-central is a great market tool for looking up prices etc. Kill boards can be great for looking up other players kills etc to get an idea of where they usually play and if they're a threat to you. Map sites give you great information on dangerous areas of space or looking up info on Wormholes.
What are your general bits of advice for new players?
+ 1 might add, reach out to other new players.
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Red Teufel
Mafia Redux Feign Disorder
429
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:44:10 -
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* Simmer down and take your time * Join a player corporation that is active in your TZ. * Don't go to Null just yet wait for sov revamp * Explore new ways of making isk, don't get burnt out running lvl4s |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30422
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:52:53 -
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EVE will probably be awesome in five years when you finally understand everything.
Also start second and third mains.
Don't post on the forums, devs don't read it. Send GMs your questions with support tickets. Don't be silent.
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Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
71
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:55:22 -
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Rain6637 wrote:EVE will probably be awesome in five years when you finally understand everything.
Also start second and third mains.
Rofl. It's funny cause it's true. *cries internally |

Ditero Endashi
Protomonolithic
5
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:56:05 -
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Unless you already have no RL, dont play EVE  |

Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
11906
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:57:46 -
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If you're going to play EVE after a few drinks, never open a trade window.
And in a similar vein...
Don't take losses personally.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
71
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:00:08 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:If you're going to play EVE after a few drinks, never open a trade window.
And in a similar vein...
Don't take losses personally.
Don't take losses personally. I like that one. |

Anthar Thebess
885
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:04:24 -
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Don't Mine!
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Khan Wrenth
Hedion University Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:11:18 -
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Diversify. Even if you don't think you'll like a particular racial line of ships or weapons, do some basic skilling in them anyway. Try them out. You might be surprised, and you'll be happy you at least tried and found out for sure whether or not you want to go a particular direction. Worst case scenario: you're certain you don't like a ship/weapon/style. Best case scenario: you found another way to enjoy EVE.
Second, understand that different ships are flown different ways. If you find a ship you really like, find out everything you can about it. Research fits, understand the context of where those fits are meant to be used. Understand the environment around you, etc. Then, when you fully understand how and why the ship works, do EVERYTHING in your power to break the mold and create truly freakish fits. Your enemy will never see it coming. Or at the very least, it'll be a fun encounter for you both and you'll have an interesting lossmail.
Speaking of which, no, I won't tell you why I had a cargohold full of female exotic dances and Fedos.
HTFU.-á Adapt or die.-á Beware the falcon punch.
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
907
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:12:36 -
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Leave these forums; never to return.
Not today spaghetti.
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Kestral Anneto
Umbra-Domini SpaceMonkey's Alliance
51
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:17:05 -
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1. Get into a player run corp ASAP.
2. Learn basic PVP in frigates, as they are throw away.
3. get an alt for ISK making, be it mining, hauling, production, whatever.
4. Focus on basic skills first, powergrid, cpu, cap and tank before you start training for bigger and better things, as when you get to that level, a better foundation will stand you in good stead.
5. Experiment to find out what you like doing, no point playing a game when it feels like a chore just to log in.
6. Losses happen, dont take it to heart, throw a GF in local and learn from it, aim to be the one doing the killing one day.
7. In PVP, find your niche, if you want to do Ewar, do Ewar, if you want to do Logi, do Logi, dont let other people dictate to you on how to play, EvE is YOUR game.
8. Try to get experience in small scale PVP, big fleets are all well and good, but you don't want to fall into the trap of being a professional F1 pusher.
9. Learn to be twitchy, don't trust anyone completely until you have known them for a while, even then still be cautious.
10. Learn to use programs like EFT and EvEMon, they are invaluable, but dont trust them to much, especially EFT, they are only indicaters.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
565
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:17:12 -
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Deal with the fact that you will lose a ship every now and then. Usually because you did something stupid. You will experience this throughout your entire EVE career.
With that you should be good to go |

Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
260
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:25:31 -
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REMEMBER!!!
Its only pixels 
Fly Safe o/
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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Dirk Magnum
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2015.02.24 13:59:55 -
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If you ever find yourself asking "why did that player just do X to me?", go and do that thing to another player. The answer you seek may be there. Bad life advice, but great advice in-game.
Eve is like a zen journey, where enlightenment is reached when you can do (or have done to you) whatever you want without being a mad about it. Again, terrible life advice but good advice for how to play the game.
This isn't real life, this is just fantasy. Like my place in Cabo where Freddie is still alive.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE."
- traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2135
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Posted - 2015.02.24 14:02:45 -
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As much as I hate saying it because I think everything should be 'viable' don't start mining. You can go mining later when you know what you are doing. Just don't start out as a miner and rely on that to get anything done.
Don't try to PLEX your account from day one. It will suck all the fun out of the game.
There, those two things. Otherwise, talk to people, get involved, don't play solo =P |

Jishi Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2015.02.24 14:12:24 -
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"Don't come to General Discussion looking for a shoulder to cry on.
We do not care." |

Diemos Hiaraki
Perkone Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2015.02.24 14:38:54 -
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I usually point new players to Brave or Eve uni. Showing them this video I think is pretty useful too to keep them motivated when the usual 'how do I compete with vets with tons of skillpoints?' question comes up. |

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:02:32 -
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Mining is great .... gas mining in wormholes I mean 
I think above there was a great advice, try things somebody did to you our you saw others doing (in game, videos).
IMO multiple chars/accounts are not necessary to enjoy the game ... I'm happy with Tipa being a singleton , there are only few things you can't do solo or in team of real players.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9884
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:05:18 -
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Jishi Padecain wrote:"Don't come to General Discussion looking for a shoulder to cry on.
We do not care."
Nice. One correction though:
Jishi Padecain wrote:"Don't come to EVE ONLINE looking for a shoulder to cry on.
We do not care."
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9884
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:11:47 -
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As for advice. Mine is the same in game as it is out of game: KNOW YOURSELF and be honest about it. If the game isn't for you, quit, don't keep trying to fit a square peg into a round hole then use that as an excuse to be mad at round holes (when the problem is really the guy holding the square peg lol).
If you find the game is for you, great, keep going, but remember your experience is what YOU make it, not what others (ccp, or players) make it for you.
Take responsibility for your failures faster than you take credit for your successes and you will both fail less and succeed more. (People who immediately blame others for their failures, in a fail bid to protect their fragile egos, NEVER understand this point, or how they reinforce their own failures but not identifying the source of fail, which is almost always 'yourself').
And don't believe that lie about 'trust no one'. Learn who to turst....then keep an eye on them while you're trusting them  |

J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5866
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:35:43 -
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Don't listen to me.
If you do listen to me, I'm not in any way responsible for your actions. I warned you up front to not listen to me 
Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Aladar Dangerface
Absolutely Certain
146
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Posted - 2015.02.24 16:15:40 -
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Run away, while you still can!!!!!!!
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6305
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Posted - 2015.02.24 16:25:31 -
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Two things I would add:
Don't get addicted to your own kill board.
Put the Ritalin down.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2694
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Posted - 2015.02.24 16:33:20 -
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Dont be scared to give out your api keys, learn how they function and what they're for, its not your bank account details, they can't get to any of your stuff with it or control your account in any way with it.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
107
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Posted - 2015.02.24 16:46:36 -
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don't be a ****, you'll make friends. friends = most valuable commodity in new eden |
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