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Mar Drakar LDK Process of Elimination	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:54:00 - [31] well from one time i've flown with BE, i could say they are good, really good, using game mechanics to the limits, smacking back at n00bs in local whatever you name :) what a fun evening that was ... -- Make your life worth dying. CEO LDK
matty01 No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.10.13 06:36:00 - [32] fought em in huzzah a few times...well engaged once, think we lost a few and didn't kill any...but then thats what usually happened in huzzah tbh if people would listen to intel or have an alt scout, to avoid the systems they were in, there wouldn't be a problem...but for some reason people think its ok to afk through this game, and those people are idiots buuut there will always be those people, so you will always see people flaming away on the forums
WARPIG3 DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.13 06:42:00 - [33] Wonder how BE kill vs lost Ratio will be when Warp Scrambler T2 come out? Will BE be as effective? Will BE adapt to new upcoming changes? History wise What allaince has BE been in?? SA?
Mortal Wombat State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.13 06:53:00 - [34] before my time, but apparently for a joke, udie joined sa for 1 day.
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:00:00 - [35] They rub people up the wrong way on the forums and due to their size and sharpness its very difficult to catch them out. When you put these factors into the mixer I guess you get all the haters.
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:07:00 - [36] Edited by: Garia666 on 13/10/2006 07:07:08 well i have seen them a couple of times lately and i didnt see any smack.. so thats cool nothing more to say or complain .. ->My Vids<-
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:09:00 - [37] Originally by: Nahual lol sword interesting story! BE well, they think they're cool coz they can use damps stabs and snipe you at 200km. They like their game play, they just keep rotating around the map once a group of people they're trying to kill figure out how to counter them. That combined with them thinking they're god makes them very annoying to most people. They follow game rules, but you'll never get a fair fight out of them. I would say people like them aren't welcome in a game like eve, one where they take the i-win buttons and just keep hammering for months upon months (where's the skill ), but thats the game eve is today... Actually you are very very wrong. The perception is that we don't fight fair. Tactically, this may be the case, but number wise its alsmost certainly wrong. Think about it, dampners aren't that great at 200km, so in a fight at that range, you probably better off tanked. Why then do we still fit dampners?
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:12:00 - [38] Originally by: swordslasher You fail at reading comprehension. I would suggest the same book for you. All I single handedly did was not die to you. Everytime we had sufficient numbers to engage, you warped off, and you logged. Burn eden is good at nothing more than ganks, which is why they have no home, they exist nowhere outside of Jita for selling loot. You can't engage, because even with equal numbers you are inferior to close range ships and you will warp off at even the slightest hint of a force that could hold you down and slaughter you. you fit stabs, which in of itself exclaims you are afraid of diying, or incapable of preventing your own death. Burn eden is a pathetic excuse for an empire griefer corp. You're like fleas on a dog, sooner or later, the dog quits caring, while you go on taking cheap shots because that's all your capable of. That's why you and dragoon left TCT isn't it? can't take the heat of getting shot at in a fleet engagement eh? What are you going to do when constellational sovereignty comes along, with anchorable stargate and station turrets? sit in HED-GP popping noob ships? oh wait... For someone afraid to come within our lock range, you sure do have a big mouth on the forums. You did not appear one 1 BE killmail. If you read back a year or so on the forums, you will find most of the people posting good stuff about us on this thread were posting flames like youself. You'll come to understand eventually. In fact, I'm almost certain you end up asking to join one day.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:15:00 - [39] Originally by: WARPIG3 Wonder how BE kill vs lost Ratio will be when Warp Scrambler T2 come out? Will BE be as effective? Will BE adapt to new upcoming changes? History wise What allaince has BE been in?? SA? BE does not rely on warp core stabs. The point is not to get into a situation where you have multiple scramblers on you in teh first place. So when T2 scramblers come out it just means we get better loot. Our setups are already flexible enough to adapt to upcomming changes, including WCS nerf. Our kill reation will still be around 20:1 We were in Stain Empire for 1 day, because I clicked apply for the hell of it, and Shivan clicked accept for the hell of it.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.13 07:57:00 - [40] Originally by: Smith They rub people up the wrong way on the forums and due to their size and sharpness its very difficult to catch them out. When you put these factors into the mixer I guess you get all the haters. pretty much.. but thats the role they want to play.. I must admit fragm's post were tiresome when you werent in the mood for them, but mostly they were just funneh, give everyone somewhere to whine whlie bored at work There is alot of corps in the same "roles" as them, SAS, CELES, E-R all claim to be the best but all dislike the "big empire alliances" more than each other which i find sort of strange.. but then i guess that is natural, disliking what is different.. In some ways they have it easier, their role expects the "omg dirty" tactics, and the get much more freedom to choose the direction of their efforts.. which given game mechanics is much easier.. but to be a top group in any role still requires hard work and a certain amount of skill, which shouldnt be taken away.. >: )
Fedaykin Naib 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.13 08:38:00 - [41] Edited by: Fedaykin Naib on 13/10/2006 08:39:07 I think I read a comment by kickass or shin ra once, where they said they got the idea of using warp core stabs on pvp setups from me. After drinking a bottle of whiskey that night I almost shot my brains out. "Long Live the Fighters!"
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 08:50:00 - [42] Originally by: Fedaykin Naib Edited by: Fedaykin Naib on 13/10/2006 08:39:07 I think I read a comment by kickass or shin ra once, where they said they got the idea of using warp core stabs on pvp setups from me. After drinking a bottle of whiskey that night I almost shot my brains out. Lol. Apparently, when Celes were fighting TFA around P3 area, you used to fit a couple of stabs and it got really annoying for them. So they did you one better. If true, then you are the sole reason we are wcs *****s!
canned Caldari Quam Singulari Industry	Posted - 2006.10.13 09:08:00 - [43] Quote: Actually you are very very wrong. The perception is that we don't fight fair. Tactically, this may be the case, but number wise its alsmost certainly wrong. Think about it, dampners aren't that great at 200km, so in a fight at that range, you probably better off tanked. Why then do we still fit dampners? Sensor dampener t2's can get that range with high enough skills cant they? and if you didnt know ive seen recent killmails where some of you were using remote sensor damps t2 --------------- i dont really know what to put here so ill just type this
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.13 09:13:00 - [44] Originally by: canned Quote: Actually you are very very wrong. The perception is that we don't fight fair. Tactically, this may be the case, but number wise its alsmost certainly wrong. Think about it, dampners aren't that great at 200km, so in a fight at that range, you probably better off tanked. Why then do we still fit dampners? Sensor dampener t2's can get that range with high enough skills cant they? and if you didnt know ive seen recent killmails where some of you were using remote sensor damps t2 BE is using t2 ****... the sky is falling... On the other hand not even t2 racial ECM on a ship with ECM range bonus gets beyond 200k. Damps are more like 100. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 09:25:00 - [45] Originally by: canned Quote: Actually you are very very wrong. The perception is that we don't fight fair. Tactically, this may be the case, but number wise its alsmost certainly wrong. Think about it, dampners aren't that great at 200km, so in a fight at that range, you probably better off tanked. Why then do we still fit dampners? Sensor dampener t2's can get that range with high enough skills cant they? and if you didnt know ive seen recent killmails where some of you were using remote sensor damps t2 Sure they work up to 220km. But they very rarely work at such ranges. We usually fight a lot close to make effective use of the damps. When the situation calls for it (IE frig fleet) then we will go longer range. My point is, don't believe everything you hear on the the forums.
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 09:32:00 - [46] Originally by: SATAN Frag never ripped anyone off, he had a personality conflict along with myself and the rest of the UDIE gang with the leaders of TPS like Cao Cao(Pick up your guns, pick up your guns). Frag may be many things but he would never rip anyone off, he is the type of person that would give you his last cupcake. I guess i just heard that story so many times i assumed it was true. That + you guys tried to overthrow your corp. Guess not. My bad Btw - I totally blame you for getting our ASCN forum access revoked. You werent suposed to make posts with it. bastard. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 09:33:00 - [47] Oh yeah. BE = CELES discuss... Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 09:36:00 - [48] Forum will always be house of the bull*t. Just like the story about BOB using hax. If you believe all that ST, this ain't the game for you. Warp core stabs counter Warp Disruptors/scramblers. Juse like ECM is countered by Backup relays. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.10.13 10:38:00 - [49] Edited by: Buxaroo on 13/10/2006 10:39:56 My first experience with BE was when I was with Huzzah (Huzzah!) and one of them, SATAN or Shin Ra, I forget which, was soloing 5 of us in his raven. I could never do much damage to him because he was either sensor dampining or jamming me. And he was around 90-100km off the gate. So far I haven't been killed by a BE and don't plan to either. The only BE I participated in killing wasn't wearing WCS at all. That might have been his doom right there. If he had 3 WCS or more he would have escaped. But then again I do not think he was expecting myself or the gang of Firestar I was in at the time to oppose him coming through our neck of the woods. I'm not the carebear you are looking for As far as smack, I never seen them talk in local or *****. And that dude did post his loss 30 seconds after getting it so props to him.
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2006.10.13 10:58:00 - [50] Bydi had war with Chronic fatigue who was many BE on vacation or something.. Was a fun war to think back at and we managed to hit them back after a few solo losses.. Cov ops with 6 scramblers and 3-4 gank bs.. We got a negative loss ratio cause of our continued solo attacks which are the sure death vs them but with some good planned attacks we got 3 of their bs in 1 day.. What can you say about them: They know their fightstyle They are not afraid too loose a ship They got the isk to do it And they are VERY skilled for the way they fight, i would say almost max skilled.. And Shin Ra somehow turns negative topics into Burn Eden pooned you with excellent written post`s..
FlakKer Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:08:00 - [51] Originally by: heidrun Originally by: lazyb22 Originally by: Diablique They are highly effective aand nearly impossible to counter, and the best small unit PvP force you'll find in eve. Ya, it's envy. My one experience with them the above is true. You can counter em it just takes patience or luck. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT. Jealousy is my guess. yep but its all over after the wcs nerf no it's not, they wil lfit bc 2's instead, and I know this since I've foguht them abit HAhaHAhaHAh I make sure there are enough paperclips on hand...
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:17:00 - [52] Originally by: swordslasher Originally by: SATAN Originally by: swordslasher Best counter to burn eden is T1 frigates and interceptors. They log every time. No kidding, I've FC'ed a gang more than once with nothing but AF's and interceptors, zerg rush burn eden at 200km and they warp away and log off. Scared they're going to take a loss, something else about how they keep their dictor piloting alts out of Burn Eden as well, seeing as the dictors die so often. Burn Eden? pfft. smoldering is more like it, burn eden is a fire quickly dispatched with a urine firehose. BE ganks the stupid and incompitent - I've told Evil Pookie and the lot of em many times myself that they've never killed me, and they never will, and even while they were wandering around QBH5 and AZN, whilst I was hauling everything I move from AZN to 68FT (corp/alliance change) - they were still incapable of doing it. The best defense is common sense and perception, keep your eyes open, ask for intel, don't fly solo in a hauler and you won't die to stupid gankers. That's all now. Thanks for the 3 billion in mins you delivered us in the 2 hauler runs, please keep the smack up. PS. Didnt we kill your gang every time? And didnt we kill your alt? PSS. A ceptor doing 5.5k/sec at 300km out is a brilliant strat against us. SNIP - Be nice - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) 1: I never lost 3 billion in mins in two hauler runs, check your killboards. To clarify, swordslasher has never lost ANYTHING to burn eden, ever. 2: I think the fool you're referring to wasn't in our gang and decided to jump into the system because he had a scout who told him the gate was 'friendly camped'. right. smart idea there buddy. Oohhh burn eden ganks another hauler. You are SO HARDCORE MAN! 3: My empty industrial, which I had bought 10 minutes earlier for 150k isk, was a trap you were too afraid to fall for - instead you engaged some tard who thought he'd warp right into a dictor bubble on the other side of the system. I warped the alt to said gate to get you to stay longer, you engaged it, popped him, and when our fleet dropped out of warp to engage you, you ran. Like scared little girls from the boogie man. Hell if I even remember correctly, I tanked YOU and Evil Pookie while you were trying to snipe my raven 230km out two minutes solid before I had to jump through to AZN. that was another trap, you saw me sitting on the gate for 15 minutes, tried to engage thinking you had a quick gank, and warped off again when the fleet came in to give you a what-for. Apple released their new BURN EDEN series mp3 players. iGank iWarp iLog Collect all three for a intensly irritating time! lol The fact that they generate so much mindless smack like this, is why I love BURN EDEN. Keep doing what you do, guys, its really fun to watch.
Marfew Jae AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:17:00 - [53] My attempt to answer the sensor damps question: what targetting range does an Inty have if you hit it with 2 Dampeners?
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:19:00 - [54] Well we didn't used to like BE much then Kinsy went to the London meet and came back telling us what an outstandingly nice bloke Shin Ra was. He even posted lots of borderline homosexual photos on our killboards for us to laugh at. They also achieve obscene kill ratios and are generally better than anyone else. Respect. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:26:00 - [55] a sniper group and a few long-range lachesis recons. B-E tactics COUNTERED.
Laythun Undercover Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:31:00 - [56] BE get my stamp of approval, even tho some are arrogant ass hats used to have mad love for shin, but he seems to think scotland > england so we havnt spoke much lately. hell i may have even joined ya, but i dont have the time to be uber active no more, job 4tl <3 for BE. Proud Member of the Anti Whine 14
Kriz Lupin Krookid The Dominion Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:50:00 - [57] Im tired of all this "dont fight fair" whinging. What exactley IS fighting fair? I hate loggers, that is in my opinion exploiting game mechanics and quite frankly chicken. But fitting wcs and dampners, whats wrong with that? I think I have had only 8 1 vs 1 fights in the last month, they are rare. People don't want to die or take risks most the time, eve combat is all about ganks. Yes, it is no fun, but thats the way it goes. I have a large supply of cheese, its free to anyone who wants some.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:53:00 - [58] Originally by: Troubadour a sniper group and a few long-range lachesis recons. B-E tactics COUNTERED. You'd have to be spot on. 1 failed dampen attempt and u might find all ur recon ships dampened themselves.
Assassin 2 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:56:00 - [59] Be suck. end of stab *****s
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.13 12:02:00 - [60] Originally by: Marfew Jae My attempt to answer the sensor damps question: what targetting range does an Inty have if you hit it with 2 Dampeners? Low enough to also hit it with 2 med neuts i would guess. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.

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