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Droewa Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.13 02:56:00 - [1] Every time i see these guys mentioned in the forums or hear people talk of them on TS they are smacking them. BE was the first group i ever came across and got a chance to shoot at in 0.0. i have nothing aginst them but was wondering where all the bad blood came from. just wanted to get a bit of history on these guys and why the majority of the comunity seems to dislike them. please be civil.
James 315 The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:00:00 - [2] They kill too much and die too little.
Diablique The Forsakened Few	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:01:00 - [3] They are highly effective aand nearly impossible to counter, and the best small unit PvP force you'll find in eve. Ya, it's envy.
Dortock The Scarlet Harmonic	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:01:00 - [4] Edited by: Dortock on 13/10/2006 03:01:25 There is a little voice in my head telling me you're just a drama *****! Nonetheless, BE are despised by many because of their history using wcs setups, ravens with sensor dampeners and they think they're pvp gods. Dunno about that since I haven't fought em yet "Check here to preview post" seems to be broken. But what I wrote seems to be the general feeling you get on the forums. King Tinfoil Hatter
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:08:00 - [5] Burn Eden is cool, IMHO. They use the fittings that suit their combat style, along the rules. Nothing wrong about it, you'll only hear the losers moan about those tactics, because they get owned big time. As for smack goes, I never had any problem with them and they surely wouldn't win the 'smacktards contest', there are way too strong contenders ____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Diablique They are highly effective aand nearly impossible to counter, and the best small unit PvP force you'll find in eve. Ya, it's envy. My one experience with them the above is true. You can counter em it just takes patience or luck. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT. Jealousy is my guess.
heidrun Black Nebula Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:17:00 - [7] Originally by: lazyb22 Originally by: Diablique They are highly effective aand nearly impossible to counter, and the best small unit PvP force you'll find in eve. Ya, it's envy. My one experience with them the above is true. You can counter em it just takes patience or luck. THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY DO IT. Jealousy is my guess. yep but its all over after the wcs nerf
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Droewa i have nothing aginst them but was wondering where all the bad blood came from. just wanted to get a bit of history on these guys and why the majority of the comunity seems to dislike them. please be civil. It started with fragm ripping off his old corp and then gloating about it (SOA i think, cant remember). Then it continued with Sol, Shin, kickass, and frag griefing people with WCS/dampener filled ravens. At that time WCS's were considered to be a modual only used by noobs. No one besides them with any pvp skills used them on any ship. WCS use was much more rare and a bigger deal back then if anyone used them. It was precieved as being just as bad as logging off during fights to save your ship/pod. Thats where it started. BE has continued to unapologetically grief, WCS ***, lie, steal, brag, create problems for no reason, and generaly be complete scumbags. Their image has never changed for that reason. Gotta love em for it. BE 4tw Originally by:** CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Crimsonjade Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:36:00 - [9] Originally by: pershphanie Most of the hating is because they are very hard to kill and annoying to fight. It started with fragm ripping off his old corp and then gloating about it (SOA i think, cant remember). Then it continued with Sol, Shin, kickass, and frag griefing people with WCS/dampener filled ravens. At that time WCS's were considered to be a modual only used by noobs. No one besides them with any pvp skills used them on any ship. WCS use was much more rare and a bigger deal back then if anyone used them. It was precieved as being just as bad as logging off during fights to save your ship/pod. Thats where it started. BE has continued to unapologetically grief, WCS *****, lie, steal, brag, create problems for no reason, and generaly be complete scumbags. Their image has never changed for that reason. Gotta love em for it. BE 4tw im suprised you havnt joined :P touch me... you wanna ......
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:38:00 - [10] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 13/10/2006 03:38:47 http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=399123#5524443 I have had rather limited dealings with them, but they use a few stabs on their ravens/megas, they are nearly impossible to kill, and they are damned good at not getting caught. The fact that their tactics leave their victims little to no recourse generally doesn't make them endearing either.
swordslasher Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:44:00 - [11] Best counter to burn eden is T1 frigates and interceptors. They log every time. No kidding, I've FC'ed a gang more than once with nothing but AF's and interceptors, zerg rush burn eden at 200km and they warp away and log off. Scared they're going to take a loss, something else about how they keep their dictor piloting alts out of Burn Eden as well, seeing as the dictors die so often. Burn Eden? pfft. smoldering is more like it, burn eden is a fire quickly dispatched with a urine firehose. BE ganks the stupid and incompitent - I've told Evil Pookie and the lot of em many times myself that they've never killed me, and they never will, and even while they were wandering around QBH5 and AZN, whilst I was hauling everything I move from AZN to 68FT (corp/alliance change) - they were still incapable of doing it. The best defense is common sense and perception, keep your eyes open, ask for intel, don't fly solo in a hauler and you won't die to stupid gankers. That's all now.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:46:00 - [12] Typical BoB response to anything better than them. jeez. Love us or Hate us we do what we do, and do it well. Be it jealousy or frustration to as why some hate us, I dont know. We dont hate any of our sheep 8). WildCat
juduzz Amarr Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 03:56:00 - [13] The Stabs are anoyying , the damps are annoying but both valid gameplay styles. Its all the smack they come out with thats the problem, shouting how uber they are when you have to bring more numbbers to scram em.
GO MaZ No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:05:00 - [14] Originally by: DHB WildCat Typical BoB response to anything better than them. jeez. Love us or Hate us we do what we do, and do it well. Be it jealousy or frustration to as why some hate us, I dont know. We dont hate any of our sheep 8). WildCat Rawr <3 A fight is a fight, and BE bring it. So they stir **, I personally dont give a crap, cos their shenanigans I find much more entertaining than all the big alliance smacktalk these forums provide home for now. You gotta admire them for doing what they do - sure, they might be annoying as **, but whens the last time you saw a 6 or 7 man squad being that effective? They dont like losses? neither do I. Yeah, the alt-corp dictors are pushing it a little, but meh, a BE raven kill is fun, when it happens (and I've been there once or twice iirc ). Instead of whinging and throwing smack, adapt and try to beat them or just avoid them Member of the Ex-KSC retard-spellers club.
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:06:00 - [15] Pershphanie, I dont know where you got your info from but you are very wrong. The WCS thing was started back in TPS when we were all TFA, and the reason we started wearing them was to **** off the enemies that all wore them and that it did. Frag never ripped anyone off, he had a personality conflict along with myself and the rest of the UDIE gang with the leaders of TPS like Cao Cao(Pick up your guns, pick up your guns). Frag may be many things but he would never rip anyone off, he is the type of person that would give you his last cupcake. The rebirth of UDIE was Heinky, Frag, Sol, Halod Crane, Rasta Rocketman, Scuzz, Zeroh, Stetu, and myself(aka Kickass).
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:16:00 - [16] Edited by: SATAN on 13/10/2006 04:18:50 People hating us, We have actualy given this some serious thought as to why our image is soo hated. 1) Frag's posts when he was in UDIE, they all made no sense even to us. 2) WCS use, and proud of it. 3) Dont give a **** attitude, and we really dont. 4) People cant beat us, so their best comeback is smack and hatred. 5) Not giving anyone any respect, for the most part. Even the original mOo pilots had to fight us with 5:1 odds, how pathetic is that. Some noobs will tell you we log, run, hide, etc.... Last time I checked you dont get too many kills logged off/safe spoted/running. Try again.... PS Far as the frig/ceptor thing goes, it depends on the mood we are in. We just dont see a point to killing a bunch of t1 frigs, no worth while loot.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:18:00 - [17] There is way too much love in this thread. This whole biatch complex is disturbing, its like we fark you in the arse and then you want to cuddle us? bring back the biff!
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:24:00 - [18] Originally by: swordslasher Best counter to burn eden is T1 frigates and interceptors. They log every time. No kidding, I've FC'ed a gang more than once with nothing but AF's and interceptors, zerg rush burn eden at 200km and they warp away and log off. Scared they're going to take a loss, something else about how they keep their dictor piloting alts out of Burn Eden as well, seeing as the dictors die so often. Burn Eden? pfft. smoldering is more like it, burn eden is a fire quickly dispatched with a urine firehose. BE ganks the stupid and incompitent - I've told Evil Pookie and the lot of em many times myself that they've never killed me, and they never will, and even while they were wandering around QBH5 and AZN, whilst I was hauling everything I move from AZN to 68FT (corp/alliance change) - they were still incapable of doing it. The best defense is common sense and perception, keep your eyes open, ask for intel, don't fly solo in a hauler and you won't die to stupid gankers. That's all now. Thanks for the 3 billion in mins you delivered us in the 2 hauler runs, please keep the smack up. PS. Didnt we kill your gang every time? And didnt we kill your alt? PSS. A ceptor doing 5.5k/sec at 300km out is a brilliant strat against us.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:28:00 - [19] Originally by: GO MaZ Yeah, the alt-corp dictors are pushing it a little I disagree. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had a clean-slated alt scouting for me, let alone an NPC dictor alt. Anyone paying attention to local will safespot/dock/log if someone threatening jumps in, but an NPC player with no corp history gets very little attention. Training them up on P^2 accounts was a masterstroke really.
swordslasher Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:35:00 - [20] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: swordslasher Best counter to burn eden is T1 frigates and interceptors. They log every time. No kidding, I've FC'ed a gang more than once with nothing but AF's and interceptors, zerg rush burn eden at 200km and they warp away and log off. Scared they're going to take a loss, something else about how they keep their dictor piloting alts out of Burn Eden as well, seeing as the dictors die so often. Burn Eden? pfft. smoldering is more like it, burn eden is a fire quickly dispatched with a urine firehose. BE ganks the stupid and incompitent - I've told Evil Pookie and the lot of em many times myself that they've never killed me, and they never will, and even while they were wandering around QBH5 and AZN, whilst I was hauling everything I move from AZN to 68FT (corp/alliance change) - they were still incapable of doing it. The best defense is common sense and perception, keep your eyes open, ask for intel, don't fly solo in a hauler and you won't die to stupid gankers. That's all now. Thanks for the 3 billion in mins you delivered us in the 2 hauler runs, please keep the smack up. PS. Didnt we kill your gang every time? And didnt we kill your alt? PSS. A ceptor doing 5.5k/sec at 300km out is a brilliant strat against us. Suggestion: "PS" is a term used in writing a letter, not the internet. English for dummies, amazon.com for $13.59 (A WHOPPING 32% SAVINGS!) 1: I never lost 3 billion in mins in two hauler runs, check your killboards. To clarify, swordslasher has never lost ANYTHING to burn eden, ever. 2: I think the fool you're referring to wasn't in our gang and decided to jump into the system because he had a scout who told him the gate was 'friendly camped'. right. smart idea there buddy. Oohhh burn eden ganks another hauler. You are SO HARDCORE MAN! 3: My empty industrial, which I had bought 10 minutes earlier for 150k isk, was a trap you were too afraid to fall for - instead you engaged some tard who thought he'd warp right into a dictor bubble on the other side of the system. I warped the alt to said gate to get you to stay longer, you engaged it, popped him, and when our fleet dropped out of warp to engage you, you ran. Like scared little girls from the boogie man. Hell if I even remember correctly, I tanked YOU and Evil Pookie while you were trying to snipe my raven 230km out two minutes solid before I had to jump through to AZN. that was another trap, you saw me sitting on the gate for 15 minutes, tried to engage thinking you had a quick gank, and warped off again when the fleet came in to give you a what-for. Apple released their new BURN EDEN series mp3 players. iGank iWarp iLog Collect all three for a intensly irritating time!
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:43:00 - [21] Swordslasher: you sir ar correct. You single handedly thwarted our efforts to tend to our flock of sheep. You single handedly defended the entire ascn alliance from the nasty burn eden infadels. You are correct in ever thing you say, we are of no consequence, we did not make 7bil isk from loot in our 2 weeks in ascn. We did not kill any battleships in ascn, there are no tanks in bagdad! you are an angry little man howling at the moon.
Trina Tron Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:45:00 - [22] becuse they suck at photoshop ----------------------------------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Locked Begging is not allowed or appreciated on the forums. Whining remains perfectly acceptable.
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:45:00 - [23] Originally by: DHB WildCat Typical BoB response to anything better than them. jeez. Love us or Hate us we do what we do, and do it well. Be it jealousy or frustration to as why some hate us, I dont know. We dont hate any of our sheep 8). WildCat This topic is about the history of BE, you joined, like, last week? ____________________ MOGarmy
Nahual Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:49:00 - [24] lol sword interesting story! BE well, they think they're cool coz they can use damps stabs and snipe you at 200km. They like their game play, they just keep rotating around the map once a group of people they're trying to kill figure out how to counter them. That combined with them thinking they're god makes them very annoying to most people. They follow game rules, but you'll never get a fair fight out of them. I would say people like them aren't welcome in a game like eve, one where they take the i-win buttons and just keep hammering for months upon months (where's the skill ), but thats the game eve is today... ----------------------------------------------- FateCorp
Ishmael Hansen	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:55:00 - [25] People hate em cos they stab ***res, and because they are very effective. Easier to counter, if they didn't logged everytime the odds are against them. Imo logging off in enemy sovereignity systems shouldn't be allowed, or at least have a bigger timer.
Nahia Senne Fortunis Novum	Posted - 2006.10.13 04:58:00 - [26] Originally by: Nahual They follow game rules, but you'll never get a fair fight out of them. I would say people like them aren't welcome in a game like eve, one where they take the i-win buttons and just keep hammering for months upon months (where's the skill ), but thats the game eve is today... some people grind pc's while others grind npc's to make isk. last time i tried, grinding pc's was much more fun.
swordslasher Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Evil Pookie Swordslasher: you sir ar correct. You single handedly thwarted our efforts to tend to our flock of sheep. You single handedly defended the entire ascn alliance from the nasty burn eden infadels. You are correct in ever thing you say, we are of no consequence, we did not make 7bil isk from loot in our 2 weeks in ascn. We did not kill any battleships in ascn, there are no tanks in bagdad! you are an angry little man howling at the moon. You fail at reading comprehension. I would suggest the same book for you. All I single handedly did was not die to you. Everytime we had sufficient numbers to engage, you warped off, and you logged. Burn eden is good at nothing more than ganks, which is why they have no home, they exist nowhere outside of Jita for selling loot. You can't engage, because even with equal numbers you are inferior to close range ships and you will warp off at even the slightest hint of a force that could hold you down and slaughter you. you fit stabs, which in of itself exclaims you are afraid of diying, or incapable of preventing your own death. Burn eden is a pathetic excuse for an empire griefer corp. You're like fleas on a dog, sooner or later, the dog quits caring, while you go on taking cheap shots because that's all your capable of. That's why you and dragoon left TCT isn't it? can't take the heat of getting shot at in a fleet engagement eh? What are you going to do when constellational sovereignty comes along, with anchorable stargate and station turrets? sit in HED-GP popping noob ships? oh wait...
Nahia Senne Fortunis Novum	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:07:00 - [28] Originally by: swordslasher you will warp off at even the slightest hint of a force that could hold you down and slaughter you. these insults are pure comedy gold
Famine Aligher'ri V i L e	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:17:00 - [29] Originally by: Droewa Every time i see these guys mentioned in the forums or hear people talk of them on TS they are smacking them. BE was the first group i ever came across and got a chance to shoot at in 0.0. i have nothing aginst them but was wondering where all the bad blood came from. just wanted to get a bit of history on these guys and why the majority of the comunity seems to dislike them. please be civil. I wish majority of the community hated me. It's a honor to have that feeling. Why look at it in as a bad thing? I don't kill people to be loved! Much respect to BE and all the other corps doing there own thing. <3 TPS Vile - Recruiting Pirates
Nahual Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.13 05:23:00 - [30] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri I wish majority of the community hated me. It's a honor to have that feeling. Why look at it in as a bad thing? I don't kill people to be loved! Much respect to BE and all the other corps doing there own thing. <3 TPS hehe i remember you, yeh you tried to get us to hate you, but we just laughed at you in the end ----------------------------------------------- FateCorp

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