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The Mittani
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 13/10/2006 20:32:36
I bring you a message from Remedial.
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Dear CCP,
I just wanted to write you to compliment your innovative low level GMs who have been assigned to assail the vast TimeCard Scammer Menace. Your team's innovative and unorthodox methods of listening to one side of a scamming accusation and then doing the most minimal amount of investigation before handing out multiple account bans has improved my customer service experience immensely.
Imagine my joy when I attempted to log into my account today and lo and behold, I had been banned for "time card scam" - amazing! Upon further inquiry with my directors, it turns out that one of them had also been banned for "time card scam", and he was just as impressed with the situation as I was! Good show.
This was all very heartening because it meant that no matter what injustice TimeCard scammers have done to the people of Eve - they would all be caught, even the ones who didn't do it. I checked back through my purchases made through shatteredcrystal.com - nothing really out of the ordinary. TCs paid for, delivered, given directly to my director through forums PM for resale. He assured me that he had not given out any code to more than one person. But really, I wasn't worried because I knew that TEAM GENERAL MODERATOR was on the case of those nasty scammers, and a few casualties were to be expected.
You can't make an omellete without breaking a few eggs, and you can't keep TC scammers away without banning a few innocent people once every few weeks on spuriously unfounded allegations. I'm sure that's the motto at TEAM GM: "Quality is job #2"; it's not #1, but it's damn sure close.
After all, banning is about punishment, not fairness.
In love with all your work,
Remedial
CEO, GoonSwarm
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Sweriskaka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:29:00 -
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i think ccp is not honurable tbqh
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khalleth
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:30:00 -
[3]
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:30:00 -
[4]
Owned.
RMT for the lose. (and ban apperently)
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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The Enslaver
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: khalleth
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
Agreed, wouldn't put anything past remedial.
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Jargoon
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:32:00 -
[6]
Free Mumia!!!
I mean Remedial!!! 
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Enotz
Amarr
Terminus Est Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:33:00 -
[7]
Game Moderator? It's not Game Master here?
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Garregus
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:33:00 -
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I hereby accuse SirMolle, thedragoon, swaffer, and every other Eve figure anyone may have heard of timecard scamming.
So, theyre banned, right?
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Darus Xarin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:33:00 -
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yet another example of ban first ask questions later...or in this case don't ask question later
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Sgt Napalm
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:33:00 -
[10]
neat
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Sweriskaka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:34:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Sweriskaka on 13/10/2006 20:34:37
hurr double post
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Sweriskaka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: khalleth
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
Agreed, wouldn't put anything past remedial.
2006.10.10 23:33
Victim: Remedial
Alliance: GoonSwarm
Corp: GoonFleet
Destroyed: Thantanos
System: SU-8A4
Security: 0.1
Involved parties:
Name: The Enslaver (laid the final blow)
Security: 3.7
Alliance: Lotka Volterra
Corp: Shinra
Ship: Ibis
Weapon: Civilian Railgun
Destroyed items:
Gallente Carrier
500 billion ISK
Siege Launcher I
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Cabadrin
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:34:00 -
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Remedial should e-mail kieron as well, posthaste. Bans can be overturned if it comes out that it was incorrect.
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Foodchain
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:35:00 -
[14]
I demand more RMT in this RMT. Please RMT Remedial asap.
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:35:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Darus Xarin
yet another example of ban first ask questions later...or in this case don't ask question later
Oh please. You'd be laughing if this was the CEO of D2.
Frankly, I don't give a damn if he did or didn't scam someone.
Play with RMT and get burned. What is so complicated?
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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khalleth
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: khalleth
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
Agreed, wouldn't put anything past remedial.
Love the way you attempt to twist my words.
Allow me to clarify for people who seem to have problems comprehending my previous post; i'm not surprised that CCP have banned someone on unfounded allegations without contacting the person involved first.
That, the state of the servers, and everything else is kinda starting to make me feel a bit... apprehensive.
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Desiderata Fabian
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Agreed, wouldn't put anything past remedial.
Why?
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:36:00 -
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Open letters aren't likely to achieve anything, and this thread is likely to get locked.
Remedial should isntead be getting into contact with Kieron or other GM/ISD leads.
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Technim Gekat
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Garregus
I hereby accuse SirMolle, thedragoon, swaffer, and every other Eve figure anyone may have heard of timecard scamming.
So, theyre banned, right?
you forgot to accuse DB Preacher
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Pentephraxis
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:37:00 -
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You can't ban Remedial, he owes a lot of people money
oh wai
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Native
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:37:00 -
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This thread will probably get locked, but it's ridiculous that someone could buy a TC off the forums, give it to someone else to 'use', and then claim the seller scammed them and get them banned without any input from the seller whatsoever.
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Mikuhl
Caldari
GoonPlatoon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
[22]
Well he obviously deserved this.
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Viktor Konstantine
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
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So if I told the GMs that everyone I didn't like scammed me could I get them banned? Cause that would be pretty cool.
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Dirnok
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
[24]
Oh no, my leadership backbone! 
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insolace
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Raem Civrie
Remedial should isntead be getting into contact with Kieron or other GM/ISD leads.
TBQH IMHO I'm sure that instead of contacting Kieron and other HM/ISD leads he went straight to the word processor to formulate his greivances TBQH IMHO.
Also in case you didn't know this post was meant to be quite honest and was in fact my own humble opinion, I hope that this has been clarified enough but just in case I'll throw in more meaningless acronyms, TBF.
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VCBee 352
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
[26]
Edited by: VCBee 352 on 13/10/2006 20:38:25
u giv unban ore i giv bump
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Steven Colbert
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
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So, if we accuse all the other alliance leaders of timecode scans, they'll be banned without any investigation, comment, or notification as well? Awesome! This sounds like an excellent strategy.
Seriously, someone can falsely accuse you of selling them a bad timecard, thus weaseling out of their obligations and then turn around and resell the timecode for themselves.
Obviously not bothering to do any investigation at all is a brilliant plan which cannot possibly go wrong.
Now excuse me, I have to petition Nebba for selling me a bad timecode.
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Jargoon
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Cabadrin
Remedial should e-mail kieron as well, posthaste. Bans can be overturned if it comes out that it was incorrect.
I predict this will be the only constructive post in this thread before it gets locked :)
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Toffles
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:38:00 -
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This happens just about every month with us.
GM: You're banned because some person on a trial account said you did something.
Random Goon: What? I didn't do anything
*3 weeks of petitions and raising hell later*
GM: Oops, looks like you did nothing at all, sorry about that. Hopefully being undeservingly banned for 3 weeks wasn't too disruptive to your gaming experience.
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Gid Gottsun
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:39:00 -
[30]
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: khalleth
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
Agreed, wouldn't put anything past remedial.
Yup I wouldnt put anything past him either especially when he steps up for the originally falsely accused banned person and ends up banned himself.
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Parapolizei
Tactical Militia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:39:00 -
[31]
When I first saw that I thought that this was a joke about the substandard GM practices, because seriously, this is just silly.
Then I found out that it is real.
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Eryx Terayen
Caldari
GoonPlatoon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:39:00 -
[32]
There was a point in time where I thought Blizzard's GMs were the worst in the business. And then I filed a petition in EVE.
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Ras Blumin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:40:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 13/10/2006 20:39:56
May I suggest CCP employees spam this thread with goatse and stupid sa humour until it gets locked?
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Jargoon
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:40:00 -
[34]
Actually us goons posting here is probably not the best idea ever tbqh fyi
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Evil SpongeBob
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:40:00 -
[35]
I would normally say we should all go on a hunger strike until Remedial is unbanned.
But hey, it's Friday nite pizza night!
(Strokes neckbeard.)
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CharlieMurphy
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:42:00 -
[36]
i think this thread is going to be locked but it would be a shame if it was before the truth of this comes out
this could shape up to be quite entertaining
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Azaeren
AWFUL INDUSTRIES LMTD
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:42:00 -
[37]
Hey I heard there was a posting party here? Wheres THREADNAUGHT.JPG ????
Also, way to check time and dates on timecard useage before banning guys
I heard BOB and ASCN members sell timecards to eachother and then petition eachother, C/D?
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Now accepting donations for capital ship skillbooks :X |
G Dabak
Magellanic Itg
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:42:00 -
[38]
good... remedial is the bigest Scoundril on eve
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Electric Boogaloo
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:43:00 -
[39]
This is fantastic. FANTASTIC!
Just THINK of the new strategic possibilities!
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Vodex
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:43:00 -
[40]
Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: khalleth
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
Agreed, wouldn't put anything past remedial.
Attention GMs: The Enslaver scammed me out of a timecard, please ban him.
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Debunker
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:44:00 -
[41]
Originally by: insolace
Originally by: Raem Civrie
Remedial should isntead be getting into contact with Kieron or other GM/ISD leads.
TBQH IMHO I'm sure that instead of contacting Kieron and other HM/ISD leads he went straight to the word processor to formulate his greivances TBQH IMHO.
Also in case you didn't know this post was meant to be quite honest and was in fact my own humble opinion, I hope that this has been clarified enough but just in case I'll throw in more meaningless acronyms, TBF.
TBQH IMHO
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Oliberto Stewart
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:44:00 -
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:44:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Jargoon
Actually us goons posting here is probably not the best idea ever tbqh fyi
I'm sure your masterful powers of forum whoring will get your beloved leader unbanned.
Because making baseless accusations on only one side of story is always productive. And breaking the rules to do it is doubly so. Next you can post some inapropriate pictures with an alt in the alliance forum and score a trifecta.
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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Sitten Spynne
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:44:00 -
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Honestly this isn't the first time I've heard of this happening.
gg ccp obviously the best first response to an accusation is to ban the accused without doing any research.
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ArtemisEntreri
Turbulent
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:44:00 -
[45]
I wouldn't trust that site since it's not shown on the official Authorized ETC seller website.
They might as well be scammers that have a ETC generator giving out random numbers
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Rodent
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:44:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Eryx Terayen
There was a point in time where I thought Blizzard's GMs were the worst in the business. And then I filed a petition in EVE.
This. And that says *a lot*.
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Dominique Kai
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:45:00 -
[47]
Edited by: Dominique Kai on 13/10/2006 20:45:56
I've dealt with the GMs a few times in the past, and on the whole they seem to do a decent job. I've had a few petitions accepted, a few others denied, but I don't feel any resentment to any of them.
However, I question their judgement in this case.
tbqh imho ftw
edit: oh god wrong character hurr this is Tad Ghostal
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Gramtar
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:45:00 -
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EVE is my fourth MMORPG, by and large the most enjoyable. I'm a veteran of UO, EQ, and WoW. After playing since May, I have noticed one thing very different about it. Your customer service is deplorable.
While I know people who've waited literally months for ship reimbursement due to server crashes, your GMs seem to be ban-crazy. I know a number of other people, inside and outside GoonSwarm, who've been banned over the last 2 months for allegedly time-card scamming. It's apparent to me your GMs take the word of the accuser, and make no attempt to validate their claim before issuing a pre-emptive ban.
It's really quite pathetic and I suggest you review your internal procedures for issuing bans before you continue this practice.
Oh, and FREE REMEDIAL!!!!
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Sitten Spynne
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:45:00 -
[49]
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
I wouldn't trust that site since it's not shown on the official Authorized ETC seller website.
They might as well be scammers that have a ETC generator giving out random numbers
It's the second link on that page genius.
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Waragha
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:45:00 -
[50]
Nobody cares about what happens to GS members except goonswarm.
Originally by: Trepkos
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The only difference between GS and NPC's are that GS respawn quicker.
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Widebrant
Jita Highway Patrol
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:45:00 -
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Remedial is not the first goon, and I'm certain not the first EVE player, to get banned in this fashion, without a hint of investigation.
The particulars of this ban is not what merits discussion, that will hopefully be solved through the appropriate channels.
What needs to be clarified is if all who handle more than a token amount of timecards will be subject to this kind of periodically occuring blanket bans.
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Goodbye.
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Mi'zuro
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:46:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
Frankly, I don't give a damn if he did or didn't scam someone.
I hope CCP ban more people for absolutely no reason because dammit I don't give a damn whether he damn well did anything.
Goddamn.
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Sweriskaka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:46:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Waragha
Nobody cares about what happens to GS members except goonswarm.
GS is pretty much the largest solid income stream in EVE.
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JIKYN
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:48:00 -
[54]
this is an outrage
i am outraged 
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ArtemisEntreri
Turbulent
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:48:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Mi'zuro
Originally by: ArtemisEntreri
I wouldn't trust that site since it's not shown on the official Authorized ETC seller website.
They might as well be scammers that have a ETC generator giving out random numbers
Markee Dragon
English website (North America)
www.shatteredcrystal.com
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Yeah didn't see
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VCBEE 916
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:48:00 -
[56]
This thread is going places!
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CharlieMurphy
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:48:00 -
[57]
Edited by: CharlieMurphy on 13/10/2006 20:49:04
Quote:
Remedial is not the first goon, and I'm certain not the first EVE player, to get banned in this fashion, without a hint of investigation
and thats a rather unfortunate way of dealing with these things
if it ever happened to me i would be fuming
oh we made a mistake - sorry 1 week later really wouldnt be enough
if the goons were smart they would stop the pointless spamming tho cause soon this is going to be a 500 post locked thread
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Poopdagger
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:50:00 -
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Wow this company is awesome. Between the failing servers, retarded support and cheating GM's it might be time to take a long break and play something else.
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Mikuhl
Caldari
GoonPlatoon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:50:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Ediz Daxx
Theres this great new thing called e-mail, use it.
Just think of this as an open email.
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:51:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Ediz Daxx
Theres this great new thing called e-mail, use it.
Two goons were banned for almost 2 months for the same reason. They were cleared after something like 80 emails back and forth with CCP GMs. Who's to say Remedial's attempts won't be ignored like theirs?
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Schlieren Altiprlayle
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:51:00 -
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i am the time card in da OP
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Desiderata Fabian
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:52:00 -
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Banning anyone without some contact of some sort is bad, but you think that the leader of a 3000 man alliance would warrant at least an investigation before the ban hammer came down, set some bells ringing or something...
Good job this didn't happen to ASCN or BoB at the start of their little fracas, eh...
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Azaeren
AWFUL INDUSTRIES LMTD
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:52:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Azaeren on 13/10/2006 20:53:47
I guarantee if this was someone in BOB, they would all be circlejerking eachother and so would half of EVE. Never say anything bad about BOB, they might move into your region, make you surrender and be their *****es by paying them taxes every week.
God forbid someone of a "hated" alliance has something bad happen.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:52:00 -
[64]
Originally by: ****dagger
Wow this company is awesome. Between the failing servers, retarded support and cheating GM's it might be time to take a long break and play something else.
brilliant idea, sod off.
Now, petition and mail kieron like a good child and let Kieron handle it for ya.
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Darus Xarin
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:52:00 -
[65]
goonswarm is an exploit
c/d?
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:53:00 -
[66]
Getting the entire Goonswarm to post here won't increase Remedial's chances you know...
Please keep it up.
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Alexi Kalashnikov
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:53:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Alexi Kalashnikov on 13/10/2006 20:53:46
OH GOD EVE-O! First annoying in-game, previously annoying in print, NOW ANNOYING ON THE INTERNETS!
And what the hell....
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Julian Gotauri
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:53:00 -
[68]
I like how all our former (and current) enemies come out of the woodwork to call us "forum spammers."
Here's a hint: When the leader of a 2600+ man alliance gets banned for no reason, it's going to be of interest to those people. |
Oliberto Stewart
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:54:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: ****dagger
Wow this company is awesome. Between the failing servers, retarded support and cheating GM's it might be time to take a long break and play something else.
brilliant idea, sod off.
Now, petition and mail kieron like a good child and let Kieron handle it for ya.
Chill, m8
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Blitter
Caldari
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:54:00 -
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I just had my first positive experience with an EVE GM last night. My scan probe launcher wasn't working and he spent at least an hour trying various fixes. Then I wake up this morning with a fixed scan probe launcher, and I see this bull****.
I've had to deal with a reverse timecard scam twice now -- Character A sells timecard to Character B, Character B uses timecard on Account C, then petitions that the code's been used. With a scam this widespread, you cannot ban Character A without some simple investigation first.
Every month or two, goonfleet.com gets another thread posted -- "Hey guys I've been banned for no reason." Inevitably they get overturned after a month with sincere apologies from CCP customer service, but it's still complete crap for customer service. You guys have to do better.
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Kor Tei
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:55:00 -
[71]
Everyone in goonswarm should of been banned already for hacking the client and inserting their own pics. When will CCP do something about that?
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Alexi Kalashnikov
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:55:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Alexi Kalashnikov on 13/10/2006 20:55:38
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Please keep it up.
 Well, we have to make up and combat the evil regime of hatred and ego's that is the COAD!
Also it will demonstrate to CCP and the GMs that a lot of individuals are heartfully concerned about a major abusement of power combined with a severe lack of investigative abilities...
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:55:00 -
[73]
Originally by: NoghriViR
This goes to prove that Eve-O has some of the worst GM's in the business.
No, it doesn't. So far no proof of anything has been offered. All we know for sure at this point is that some goons for banned. And the rest of them decided the public forums were the best place to discuss it. Which is also technically against the rules.
We've heard remedial's satire. But we don't know what the GM's did or didn't do to investigate. And we don't know if remedial is leaving something out, or just flat lied.
The irony is probably lost on most of you though.
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The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain.
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ArtemisEntreri
Turbulent
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:57:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Getting the entire Goonswarm to post here won't increase Remedial's chances you know...
Please keep it up.
Actually, sadly...
it might
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:57:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Cythereon on 13/10/2006 20:57:56
Originally by: multigl
you know what's awesome. It's been two months since I WAS SCAMMED OUT OF 1.5 BILLION ISK AND STILL HAVEN'T HAD A RESPONSE FROM GMS.
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Yurii Chan
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:57:00 -
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gosh, so its true.. goons are not only in game spammers but they have such skills in forum whoring...
im no fan of remedial nor am i a fan of goon.
as to the practices of CCP, i would do the same.. easier to investigate a LOCKED account rather than leave it on. Plus few threads down guy got his toon back so remedial should get his back if he talks to ccp
ffs - lay off the forums!
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:57:00 -
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It IS kind of funny how supposed GTC scammers are banned quickly and without too much investigation, while 100s of the most obvious macros remain in game forever.
One might even sense a tiny bit of bias here...
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multigl
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:58:00 -
[78]
no surprise here. Two months ago I was scammed out of 1.5 billion isk by a time card scammer. My petition has been open for two months, still waiting for one of those awesome senior gm's to do his job.
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Desiderata Fabian
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:00:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Desiderata Fabian on 13/10/2006 21:04:33
Edit: Oh why bother.
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Nate Hammertown
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:00:00 -
[80]
hey wahts up eve whats going on lemmie send a shoutout to my boys WEST SIDE haha you know how a playa likes 2 roll
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: khalleth
I wish i could say i was surprised.
I'm not.
Me either..but probably not for the same reasons you aren't.
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Conan Shlatz
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:01:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Conan Shlatz on 13/10/2006 21:05:05
Edited by: Conan Shlatz on 13/10/2006 21:04:37
Edited by: Conan Shlatz on 13/10/2006 21:02:04
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Getting the entire Goonswarm to post here won't increase Remedial's chances you know...
Please keep it up.
This is getting posted because it's a serious problem, not just for Remedial, but for anybody who sells timecodes. I know people who have been banned for nearly a month because some guy decided to be an *******, and run the timecode on another account. I certainly wouldn't be happy if your CEO, or anybody for that matter suffered the same unfair fate. No matter our stance to each other in-game.
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Avulsion
Duragon Pioneer Group
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:01:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ediz Daxx
Theres this great new thing called e-mail, use it.
This is not a solitary occurance, several goons have had their accounts banned for "timecard scamming" in the past couple of months, most have had their bans overturned, but in every case it took 3 to 5 weeks of petitions and e-mail before a GM would even investigate. In this case, Remedial e-mailed the GMs (privately) to defend one of his minions from such a ban, and was himself banned. So instead of quietly e-mailing the GMs and risking more bans, we'll do it publically (and probably still risk bans).
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Rapturea
Gallente
War Pigs
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:01:00 -
[84]
I always thought that it was a good business practice to enrage an alliance of thousands over something amazingly retarded and false.
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Mikuhl
Caldari
GoonPlatoon
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:03:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Yurii Chan
gosh, so its true.. goons are not only in game spammers but they have such skills in forum whoring...
im no fan of remedial nor am i a fan of goon.
as to the practices of CCP, i would do the same.. easier to investigate a LOCKED account rather than leave it on. Plus few threads down guy got his toon back so remedial should get his back if he talks to ccp
ffs - lay off the forums!
Yes guys, let's take days away from them, even months, that they have paid for to make sure it might maybe not happen again. That makes much more sense than investigating and refunding everyone's isk they lost if the offender is guilty. Yes, take away his playing time so they don't have to do as much work. ****ty customer service if you ask me.
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Pokano
Amarr
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:05:00 -
[86]
Why is this thread not locket yet?
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Hambonius Omega
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:05:00 -
[87]
Do you hear that?
It's very faint but it's so sad...
Baby jesus crying itt
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Papa Ina
GoonPlatoon
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:06:00 -
[88]
Well, I just hope for a quick resolution to this. No arm waving here, just a dose of aprehension as the wheels of justice creak painfully slowly. |
Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:06:00 -
[89]
It's funny, you guys are here complaining that CCP is so crapy...
LEAVE! No one would miss you.
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Nathanial Victor
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:07:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Nathanial Victor on 13/10/2006 21:07:06
i'm sure this thread wouldn't be as effective as... perhaps say emailing ccp w/ your case and evidence disproving what they have accused you of?? (there is a crazy idea) i'm sure they would review it and appreciate you not blatently violating ANOTHER rule by discussing a ban on the forums
not that i really care. but thanks for teh forum fireworks! one gooN down.... so many to go
/me sips his lemonade 
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:08:00 -
[91]
Please have Remedial Petition. Thats the only way something is going to happen. Discussing bans is not allowed.
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Sweriskaka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:08:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
It's funny, you guys are here complaining that CCP is so crapy...
LEAVE! No one would miss you.
GoonSwarm provides $500,000 worth of income to CCP per year
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CharlieMurphy
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:09:00 -
[93]
Quote:
Everyone in goonswarm should of been banned already for hacking the client and inserting their own pics. When will CCP do something about that?
that should be in the game for everybody imo
i dont condemn them for inovation, in the end that might well end up to the greater benefit of eve
back to time card scams tho  maybe its time for a system where you can trade isk for time card directly with ccp
after all anybody thats in a position to make that much isk has already payed for the game even if its only for a few months
it seems obvious to me that the current time card system is open to abuse but it would be unfortunate if players lost the ability to buy time for isk
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artard
Gallente
Syndicate Production Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:11:00 -
[94]
All 3 of my accounts were banned for several weeks during the summer for "timecode" scamming and it took me over a dozen petitions to get any kind of response from the GMs. Of course within hours of them actually looking into the case they unbanned me, but I lost combined months of skill training on all of my accounts and they refused to reimburse any SP or even give me an apology or free game time.
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Steve Holt
GoonWaffe
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:13:00 -
[95]
This is unfortunate and will hopefully be remedied (no pun intended) shortly. I understand that the GMs have been under a ton of pressure between node instability, rampant TC scamming and fraud, and for the most part have responded quickly and justly to such petitions. Unfortunately, mistakes do happen, and hopefully the same diligence will be taken to correct these errors. I do hope in the future the GMs will not be so quick to render such harsh punishment however, and at least permit the accused to explain any 'incriminating' actions before judgement.
Hope you set a long skill, Rem. 
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