Dear CCP:

Thanks for making the "end game" in this game worthless. Something that takes years and years to train for and tens of billions of isk to obtain and fit is going to be made into a "niche" ship that is rarely taken out and has no offensive means to defend itself.

And don't tell me a 14x skill and tens of billions of isk is not end game, because it is. Stop seeing these ships as the problem, when it is YOUR LACK OF IMAGINATION THAT IS THE PROBLEM. I don't play the game to have an Ishtar as my ultimate goal; I play the game to have the sickest and most powerful ship to be in with the most to lose if I die. And if I die, I'll will lose tens of billions of isk in the hull alone and billions in implants.

SAVE THE SUPER AND BUFF THE TITAN. KEEP EVE EPIC. DON'T HAVE CRUISER HULLS BE THE END GAME. DOWN WITH MAKING EVE CAPTURE THE FLAG. SIC SEMPER TYRANIS = CCP FOZZIE.

Sounds like a Mickey Mouse role to me. I think CCP need to consider future roles of supers more carefully.

Delayed local in null sec, now there's a topic. While I'm not entirely against it, I can see a glaring issue - null sec allows force projection (hot dropping), while wormholes do not. This, coupled with the issue that wormholes are more profitable and don't require sov defence will make null sec a far less attractive proposition for living. The issue of force projection (including black ops - really, why would you do this - will another gameplay option be destroyed??) will need to be dealt with before a mechanic like delayed local in null sec will be successful.

People will say "have PvP'ers on hand" but we all know that doesn't work against blops strikes which usually annihilate the target before anyone can respond.

Guess CCP wants to die :P somany super acounts are gonna get unsubbed if this happens, including my 2.

Defacto not only the super accounts, but their support accounts as well. Imagine a supercarrier or titan like an Abrams tank. To keep a single Abrams operational and ready for battle it requires some ~50 people supporting. Obviously not as extreme for a lousy digital supercapital, but the concept is the same. You won't have a need for logistics toons to provide fuel/stront/etc, no more cyno alts, no more scouts, no more wormhole/ratting/incursion/mission -alts to make isk for those big babies and their blingy modules (eh, how much would you want to bling up your Ishtar anyway)

You may see a chain reaction... if it was up to me, I'd rather give supers a new and strategically important purpose, much like every other ship has one. Let them excel in their field just as other category ships do.

Anyway, I'm not too worried about it, nerf or buff either way - it may be a sign from Bob that it's time to spend the next decade doing something else :D

I thought the AFK cloaking comments would have got more attention...

If local is removed in null, AFK cloakers are going to have to alt-tab into client more often to chatter in local, and I look forward to all of the comments that get posted in local in ratting systems.

Imagine a N3 member sitting in a Goon ratting system, cloaked, and typing the lyrics of Call Me Maybe into chat over and over....

We would probably join in.

Guess CCP wants to die :P somany super acounts are gonna get unsubbed if this happens, including my 2.

So what do we have so far in this new game they call EVE-ONGRIND.

No winter megawar, gj onthe jump fatique. My first winter in years that I am actually bored to death.
Supers.......well lets not mention those. GL pilots who have trained there ballz off and grinded like a mtf, gl taking it up the ass....dry
Sov, going to be more a a pain.
Titan's where killed a long time ago so aint gonna mention them.
Oh yeah......I forgot the fights that do occur.....40 jumps to the fight and 40 back.......really really awesome and not a complete wast off time and fun at all.

Wonder how long it's going to take CCP before they actually start doing things to the game that will "improve" the game instead off twisting it's neck off even further.
I feel bad for all the oldtimers in this game, after years and years off sticking to the program.
We are all getting a major **** in our asses.

But maybe thats just me and i am beeing really negative.

Defacto not only the super accounts, but their support accounts as well. Imagine a supercarrier or titan like an Abrams tank. To keep a single Abrams operational and ready for battle it requires some ~50 people supporting. Obviously not as extreme for a lousy digital supercapital, but the concept is the same. You won't have a need for logistics toons to provide fuel/stront/etc, no more cyno alts, no more scouts, no more wormhole/ratting/incursion/mission -alts to make isk for those big babies and their blingy modules (eh, how much would you want to bling up your Ishtar anyway)

You may see a chain reaction... if it was up to me, I'd rather give supers a new and strategically important purpose, much like every other ship has one. Let them excel in their field just as other category ships do.

Anyway, I'm not too worried about it, nerf or buff either way - it may be a sign from Bob that it's time to spend the next decade doing something else :D

Look N3/goons/etc just leave your space after Sov 2.0, theres plenty of former sov holders, bitter enemies, and adventurers just waiting for the chance to get their piece of the null pie.

[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer]
I can see how we got here - we all want space-Dragons, be it to strive to claim our own, or go out in the wilderness and hunt and kill ourselves one (lets be fair, that first titan killmail is so thrilling it takes an effort of will not to frame it!). Just the mechanics don't fulfill that dream.

What value is it to you if you didn't earn it yourself? You want a slice, nut up and take it, rather than begging for a handout.

Guess CCP wants to die :P somany super acounts are gonna get unsubbed if this happens, including my 2.

I don't often speak up in defense of topics out of my area of playstyle, but turning super carriers into toothless stat-sticks isn't the way to go.

Sitting here on my armchair developer throne, I'd rather see supers become a multi-pilot ship with offensive capabilities tied to other friendly pilots being "docked" inside the super manning glorified POS guns or commanding drone flights, totally independent of the "captain" flying it.

Can you multibox it? Yes. But it's no more abusable than multi-boxing anything else in the game.

Anyway, I'm not too worried about it, nerf or buff either way - it may be a sign from Bob that it's time to spend the next decade doing something else :D

So, are we getting ANY statement from CCP here?

Those were nerf, not boosts... I can't even begin to imagine how it would boost them... I'v been around since 2004, and i'v seen how CCP rolls. I also don't remember saying i would quit... actually i have never said that, ever, on any of my toons. Sometimes i take a break, but i don't 'quit'.

jump fatigue is definitely a boost for lowsec.

I was referring, in perspective to super's