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Fireball Rain	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:05:00 - [1] OK, so i've signed up for the 14 day pass which runs out tomorrow. During that time, i've lost 4 ships, gain about 25 learning things, mostly at L2+L3... Im at that stage now already where its going to take 30+ days training to get myself a better ship (At Destroyer Stage) which seems an awful long time to just get another ship. Im also at the stage where mining is already getting boring, but I do not have the skills to go hunting for a fight (hell i've been taken out by drones). Is it worth me signing up, am i only touching the surface of the game? $20 per month is a fair bit (even at UK exchange) although it is a good waste of a workday evening. Gamers - Is it worth paying for the subscription? If I do sign up, where and what shoudl I do now? I need ISK and a lot more skills. Cheers Fireball.
Tyleritus adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:13:00 - [2] 1) yes its worth it ive palyed for almost 2yrs and i have 2 accounts. 2) Join a player corp and dont settle for jsut any corp join one with at least 30 members in it i sudgest posting in the recruitment section. 3) You made teh sitake of mining, dont mine its easier to train for a BS and hunt rats in 0.0 so make sure your new corp is in 0.0 space. 4) dont be affraid to ask for help from you new corp mates and only when in you new corp should you consider mining again, and even then do it in gangs its easier and slightly more fun. Hope this helps a little.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:13:00 - [3] Depends on what kind of person you are. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Unemployed Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:13:00 - [4] It's the coolest game I've ever played. Sign up
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:24:00 - [5] 30 days for a new ship? You're perhaps looking toward destroyer 5? Level 5 skills are a relatively large time investment. I'd suggest leaving them indefinitely - the rule of thumb I've used for the last ... well while, is if you're not sure you want that level 5, you probably don't. Cruiser and battlecruiser shouldn't take you too much training to get into. A matter of days for either. Mining and missions tend to be your introduction to EVE, but don't make the mistake of assuming that's all there is to it - it makes up about 10% of the available content. Not all is to _everyone's_ tastes, but there's an awful lot more to see and do. But you're asking the wrong people - pretty much everyone here is a hardcore EVE junky, so of course they'll say 'yes, sign up'. Yes. Sign up.
Bill Shankly	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:01:00 - [6] Stay !! you know you want to, Also if your in a destroyer, its not another 30 days untiul you can upgrade ships, it will be much less time until you can get into a cruisesr.
Cmdr Sy Off Balance Sheet Entity	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:09:00 - [7] EVE is the kind of game you are insanely happy you kept playing, several months down the line. This is not an MMO like most others, which spoon-feed you satisfaction in bite-size chunks from Day One. EVE requires an initial investment of time and effort before you experience what it really offers. And once you are there, you know you were right to stay.
Griffinator Gallente Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:17:00 - [8] 5 words for you, two and a bit years, bought the 30 day trial at a local game shop signed up within 3 hours and i have been here for 2 years and no doubt i shall be here for 2 years more at the very least, just as a hint train up gunnery skills and go run some missions they arent as tedious as mining i'll tell you that for nowt. plus the $20 a month really is negligable when u see the amount of fun that you can have from this ever evolving mmo, when i started there where no destroyers, battle cruisers, inty's where just coming out, and the design details for the recon cruisers probably were not even a twinkle in that developers eye (thanx for those btw i love my ships ccp keep em coming). it's all relative i have introduced 12 people to this game and 7 of those have signed up, im now trying to work on my dad but he says it makes him feel dumb playing online lol. so in a breif statement stay around play the game enjoy yourself you'll love it, if you dont already.
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:25:00 - [9] Do u really need to ask? If a game can keep me interested for more than 3 years given that I have well above average IQ and a fairly low boredom threshold then it must be doing something right.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:26:00 - [10] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 16/10/2006 11:28:23 Originally by: Ginger Magician I have well above average IQ I still remember your post about torpedoes being great tacklers... Just kidding around with you. Im sure you're smarter than the average joe. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Ginger Magician Do u really need to ask? If a game can keep me interested for more than 3 years given that I have well above average IQ and a fairly low boredom threshold then it must be doing something right. i think its the attention that keeps u going
Spanker	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Ginger Magician I have well above average IQ You may be smarter, but I'm better looking - Shpank
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:35:00 - [13] Played WoW. Hated it. Still hate it till now. Wasted 3 months of my free time on a **-poor e-y game. Was I happy with WoW. ** no! Hell no! Played EVE. Loved it. Lost my main due to drunkedness (more proof you should never play EVE drunk). Playing with a new character. Not caring that I have to start over. Am I happy with EVE? Frikin hell yeah!
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Ginger Magician Do u really need to ask? If a game can keep me interested for more than 3 years given that I have well above average IQ and a fairly low boredom threshold then it must be doing something right. fanboi's
The Snowman Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:38:00 - [15] Edited by: The Snowman on 16/10/2006 11:45:12 Depends, if you got a trial account, I think you can just buy time cards to avoid paying the $20 ?.. im not sure. With any game or MMO that if I have played the trial for however long it goes on for (continuously) I think its DEFINATLY worth subscribing, even just for a month or so. But thats just me, I personally like to experience all different types of games out there.. not just religously stick to one. However, there is a side of me which wants to say to you "no way, dont do it" if your having to ask these questions, chances are the answer is no. I played for about 3 months, and got hideously bored. 6 months later I sign up again (which is why im here now) after only two weeks... Im bored again. I do love Eve, its a great game! definatly worth the experience so definatly worth trying it for a few months, but its riddled with problems from delayed expansions to frequent server crashes. I will sign up again probably febuary march time, to check out the new 'Kali' expansion.. thats if its out by then AND they have sorted all the problems.. Until then, Its Guildwars for me :)
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:40:00 - [16] u could always buy say um 10 GTCs for what $200 US approx that would yield 4.5B go ingame and buy a toon for sale for that (of course thats doing it the totally legal way) forget ebay just use GTCs all the ISK sellers are - ok this is sarcasim i dont like the idea but it is doable at the moment within the EULA
Jaketh Ivanes Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:43:00 - [17] Short answer, yes. You should really drop the learning skills and train you frig, gun, mechanic/shield and navigation skills. When you got them up so you can use new ships (frigs tho) and do lvl 1 missions (perhaps lvl 2), you can resume the learning skills. Also, there is no need to train charisma at all, if you fancy flying and shooting. Only perception and willpower is needed for that. You will hear a lot of people saying you "HAVE" to train learning skills to lvl 5, also the advanced. But its not true. Yes, they help and speed thing up, but at lvl 1-3 on rank 5 or less, you will prolly save an hour or 2 pr skill you train. Not worth the wait, when you could use the time to get something new and fun. But, if you are gonna train anything to lvl 5 (especially BS) its very much worth having advanced learning to 5 (just the appropiate attribute). Cut my BS 5 from 50 days to 34, if i remember correctly.
ArchenTheGreat Caldari Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:48:00 - [18] Edited by: ArchenTheGreat on 16/10/2006 11:48:40 Edited by: ArchenTheGreat on 16/10/2006 11:48:11 Originally by: Fireball Rain Im at that stage now already where its going to take 30+ days training to get myself a better ship (At Destroyer Stage) which seems an awful long time to just get another ship. Im also at the stage where mining is already getting boring, but I do not have the skills to go hunting for a fight (hell i've been taken out by drones). Don't mine, run missions and scoop loot. Much more fun. You can do pvp in Ibis just remember to fit scrambler on it. Search the forum, there is a thread about people pirating at trial accounts (no, I am not talking about suicide kestrels but real pvp). Quote: Is it worth me signing up, am i only touching the surface of the game? Yes and yes. Quote: If I do sign up, where and what shoudl I do now? I need ISK and a lot more skills. Join a corp and find friends. Cooperative play is the most important thing in EVE. You don't need ISK nor skills to be someone important in this galaxy (ask Innominate Nightmare).
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:12:00 - [19] Eve is frustrating, annoying, infuriating and impossible to master. And that's what I like about it. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Uggster Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Rodj Blake Eve is frustrating, annoying, infuriating and impossible to master. And that's what I like about it. Well put, add to that an ever pervading sence of potentual danger and the constant pain in the neck from looking over your sholder and your on the button. _______________________________________________ Sig removed as inappropriate- Tirg
Iyanah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:27:00 - [21] Edited by: Iyanah on 16/10/2006 12:28:06 Originally by: Fireball Rain OK, so i've signed up for the 14 day pass which runs out tomorrow. During that time, i've lost 4 ships, gain about 25 learning things, mostly at L2+L3... Im at that stage now already where its going to take 30+ days training to get myself a better ship (At Destroyer Stage) which seems an awful long time to just get another ship. Im also at the stage where mining is already getting boring, but I do not have the skills to go hunting for a fight (hell i've been taken out by drones). Is it worth me signing up, am i only touching the surface of the game? $20 per month is a fair bit (even at UK exchange) although it is a good waste of a workday evening. Gamers - Is it worth paying for the subscription? If I do sign up, where and what shoudl I do now? I need ISK and a lot more skills. Cheers Fireball. 30+days to get in a destroyer? i think i was in one by the end of my first week in the trial. i spent most of the first week of the trial getting learning skills up to level 3/4, then went for ships and gunnery skills for the rest of that time, then got all the nifty skills i needed for various modules. so far, i've been playing about 3-4 months and have never lost a single ship. i've come close, but it's all about knowing when you're in over your head and jumping out. unless you are doing PvP, at the early stage you're at, you should not loose a combat ship unless you screw up. make sure if you're going to go in for a fight, your ship is set up for fighting, so no mining lasers or cargo expanders, and certainly no civilian modules. ========================================== Iy
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:30:00 - [22] Killing people > all this talk of mining and mission running . Worth it? Yes. Addictive? Yes. Hearing the squish sound when you pod someone? Fantastic . Want Me ;)?
Fireball Rain	Posted - 2006.10.16 12:57:00 - [23] Wasn't expecting that many replies lol... I've got a friend who has his own corp, but he's started a new player so he can go pirating, so I may join forces with him. Im up to a destroyer level (3), but have spent 90% of the time getting skills levels up, and while thats happening, mining. I may sign up as you say for a few months, see how it goes... I think im going about this game totally the wrong way though.... Currently though, im kinda in between a rock and a hardplace. I think its more about learning what the game has to offer then as it seems theres much more than is apparent to me at the moment. Dammit i want a big ship and some kick ass weapons Seriously though, a semi decent ship and appropriate skills wouldn't go amiss, but i think thats more about sitting down, looking what i want to get, then writing what skills are needed to get that item, then go and get them... Aye, think im on my 4th ship, Ibis, Kestrel, Err and another 2 Caldari frigates. Iv'e got the skill for the destroyer, but not actually bought it (just about have enough ISK through mining)..
Iyanah Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Fireball Rain Wasn't expecting that many replies lol... I've got a friend who has his own corp, but he's started a new player so he can go pirating, so I may join forces with him. Im up to a destroyer level (3), but have spent 90% of the time getting skills levels up, and while thats happening, mining. I may sign up as you say for a few months, see how it goes... I think im going about this game totally the wrong way though.... Currently though, im kinda in between a rock and a hardplace. I think its more about learning what the game has to offer then as it seems theres much more than is apparent to me at the moment. Dammit i want a big ship and some kick ass weapons Seriously though, a semi decent ship and appropriate skills wouldn't go amiss, but i think thats more about sitting down, looking what i want to get, then writing what skills are needed to get that item, then go and get them... Aye, think im on my 4th ship, Ibis, Kestrel, Err and another 2 Caldari frigates. Iv'e got the skill for the destroyer, but not actually bought it (just about have enough ISK through mining).. if you want ships and fittings, check that section of the forums, look up a ship that you either can already fly, or that you want to train for next, then check out some of the fittings for it. also read the item database, it has alot of stuff in there and will help you find what skills you need to train for what modules / ships. ========================================== Iy
Fireball Rain	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:06:00 - [25] PS, thats 30 days training to get a destroyer to L4, not actually get a destroyer.... I mean that most of my learning skills so far are up to L2+L3, although I only have about 25 different skills so far. Guess i need to buy the basic skills for everythign I can to open up the door to buying of better guns, missiles etc..
Mark Weston Caldari The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:25:00 - [26] Firstly, get out of Single-Player mode as soon as possible. As long as you're just mining/ratting/running missions by yourself, EVE is a pretty dull game. Join a Corp, learn alongside other players. I recommend EVE University. On the skills question, my approach has been to aim for quick wins, skills that give me fun toys to play with now or have a high ratio of benefit/skill training time. Yes, it's good to have some "essential" skills at level IV or V, and yes Learning Skills are important. But that's all about the long term, and short-term gratification is important too. New to EVE? Join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Morlar	Posted - 2006.10.16 13:39:00 - [27] I'm flying my frigate 2 weeks in and while I have a grand plan to be in a cruiser around Thanksgiving...I've used Evemon to scheme a skill plan that also focuses on making me a better combat pilot. Don't neglect Engineering, Electronics, Navigation and your appropriate Gunnery and Missle skills. You can get much more performance out of your gear by investing into the skills to allow you to fit better modules requiring less power and CPU, to increase your damage and firing rate and range of weapons and to make your ship faster and more agile. And most of these skills will be good forever... I'd rather spend the time flying my frigate and getting good (both as a player and a character) than rushing into a battlecruiser that I lose because both me and my avatar are n00bs.
Vasiliyan PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2006.10.16 14:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Fireball Rain PS, thats 30 days training to get a destroyer to L4, not actually get a destroyer.... Note that destroyer is almost a dead-end skill - the only ship that depends on having destroyer trained above level 1 is the interdictor, which is highly specialised. Look at the prerequisites trees for cruisers, battlecruisers, and battleships. You do not need to spend 30 days training your destroyer skill.
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.16 14:55:00 - [29] Originally by: James Lyrus 30 days for a new ship? You're perhaps looking toward destroyer 5? Level 5 skills are a relatively large time investment. I'd suggest leaving them indefinitely - the rule of thumb I've used for the last ... well while, is if you're not sure you want that level 5, you probably don't. Cruiser and battlecruiser shouldn't take you too much training to get into. A matter of days for either. What he said. 30 days for Destroyers is way too much, you should be able to fly one in a few days. Maybe you have very low Perception and... whatever the other attribute for Destroyers is? If so, rerolling might be a good idea; after you've got a feeling for what you want to do, check what attributes the skills require and make a character with attributes that are better balanced towards your goals. Finding out after three months that you have the wrong attributes sucks. Oh, and yeah, the game is good and has a lot more to it than you've seen. Beware that the game is very much geared towards PvP, not only in fighting but also in the economy and resource management. Whatever you do, you will compete with other players. If you don't like the idea of shooting at people, stripping the asteroid belts they wanted to mine, killing the rats in the complexes they wanted to raid, and/or undercutting their prices on the market, you may wish to reconsider. ;-)
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.16 14:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Fireball Rain PS, thats 30 days training to get a destroyer to L4, not actually get a destroyer.... 30 days for a level four is still too high, it's the sort of time that a level five requires; what are your attributes?

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