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Tim Maser
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Posted - 2003.11.01 06:48:00 -
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I paid a 2mill toll to a Space Invader pirate, or it was going to be my 7mil uninsured ship. He kept his word about letting me go, that's the honorable part.
I think the whole topic is supposed to be about honorable pirates that keep their word, that don't stab you in the back after making a deal with them.
No one said what they do as a pirate to begin with is honorable, such as stealing and killing, that's out of context from what he was saying.
It's like an arguement I heard on radio. The talk show host took the normal line of, it's no one's business what goes on in the bedroom, which was refering to homosexuals, and took the line as if they just said everything was okay, like with kids and other bad stuff, that it had nothing to do with. He took the line out of context and tried to debunk what was originaly meant by using that tactic.
That's what I mean by out of context. When the topic starter said there are honorable pirates, he was refering to the part about keeping words and going by a code and such. Then some here are twisting it around by making it seem as if by saying that you agree with everything a pirate does is honorable, when it had nothing to do with that.
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EvilEric
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Posted - 2003.11.01 07:44:00 -
[62]
Well, my main had encountered SI, and found them to be fine, I paid, they let me through... simple.
However I am a little conserned about Ivy's case. Once the person said "that's fine" that should be that.... To keep their reputation in tact they should give back the 22mil (chunk change since a certain corp thief entered their midst).
If you want a rep as a griefer pirate.. fine. If you want a rep as a "honourable" pirate you got to work at it and it's HARD!!
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.11.01 10:04:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Sally on 01/11/2003 20:14:40
Quote: Well, my main had encountered SI, and found them to be fine, I paid, they let me through... simple.
However I am a little conserned about Ivy's case. Once the person said "that's fine" that should be that.... To keep their reputation in tact they should give back the 22mil (chunk change since a certain corp thief entered their midst).
If you want a rep as a griefer pirate.. fine. If you want a rep as a "honourable" pirate you got to work at it and it's HARD!!
1. We are not in a democracy, so you have no voting power what SI should do or not. 2. We always try to keep our word. Sometimes mistakes happen (friendly fire e.g.). But we usualy do not reimburse. We don't expect others to reimburse us too. 3. We sometimes just pod and do not provide a reason why we pod. 4. We sometimes say someone is free to pass (no toll paid) and blow him up anyway, to shut him up. 5. We are high quality pirates and I am sure, that we keep our word on a high level ratio, maybe even 100%. I don't know exactly, I can't control it, but I always kept my word. 6. As for Ivy, the negotations are over when the victim leaves our space. Anything strange while negotiating with us (link dead / log off) will result in SI trying to destroy the victim. 7. As for the NAP with VHI, I think it has been somehow voided when our mineral delivery deal has been terminated. 8. As for the idiots trying to enforce their moral standards on a pirate corp: Go figure it out! 9. I'm done with this thread. -- Stories: #1 --
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Leitari
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Posted - 2003.11.01 10:44:00 -
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Now I can see that this post has already gone to hell but I'll try to say something about it, some people when encountering us give us alot of crap, saying ugly things to us, WE DONT LIKE THAT and it usually results in us killing the bastard. When someone from the same corporation jumps into the system we immediately kill whomever we are holding. When we are at places we consider war zones (Venal/PureBlind) it is very different what we do each time we go pirating, mostly we kill everything on sight but some get the privilege to be held for the toll. I dont know about other pirates, I dont care but as for my self Im more interested in trying to hold people up, its alot more challenging than just killing them on sight. Of course there is no honor in doing evil deeds, just like in real life, but thats what this game is about, doing everything you dont do in real life. But sometimes evil things are inevitable for a decent person..... So when you meet us, please dont attack the person behind the caracter, go for the caracter.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.01 10:49:00 -
[65]
Why are you all worrying about whether or not you should trust them not to pod you after you've paid up?
Simple solution - just avoid their system if you're not there to fight them.
It's funny to see all the lemmings rushing headlong to the same systems.
Pirates, nowadays, have to rely on ignorance to catch someone. If you're smart, you're a lot less likely to get caught.
Jump-in point camping is the exception to this rule - you only know about them after you or your friend has been podded there.
On a related note, when are they going to fix the map? It never shows the correct number of people in system.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

EvilEric
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Posted - 2003.11.01 11:25:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Sally on 01/11/2003 10:05:36
Quote: Well, my main had encountered SI, and found them to be fine, I paid, they let me through... simple.
However I am a little conserned about Ivy's case. Once the person said "that's fine" that should be that.... To keep their reputation in tact they should give back the 22mil (chunk change since a certain corp thief entered their midst).
If you want a rep as a griefer pirate.. fine. If you want a rep as a "honourable" pirate you got to work at it and it's HARD!!
1. We are not in a democracy, so you have no voting power what SI should do or not. 2. We always try to keep our word. Sometimes mistakes happen (friendly fire e.g.). But we usualy do not reimburse. We don't expect others to reimburse us too. 3. We sometimes just pod and do not provide a reason why we pod. 4. We sometimes say someone is free to pass and blow him up anyway, to shut him up. 5. We are high quality pirates and I am sure, that we keep our word on a high level ratio, maybe even 100%. I don't know exactly, I can't control it, but I always kept my word. 6. As for Ivy, the negotations are over when the victim leaves our space. Anything strange while negotiating with us (link dead / log off) will result in SI trying to destroy the victim. 7. As for the NAP with VHI, I think it has been somehow voided when our mineral delivery deal has been terminated. 8. As for the idiots trying to enforce their moral standards on a pirate corp: Go figure it out! 9. I'm done with this thread.
Fair enough.
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.11.01 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Teg on 01/11/2003 13:50:48
Quote: 1. We are not in a democracy, so you have no voting power what SI should do or not.
8. As for the idiots trying to enforce their moral standards on a pirate corp: Go figure it out!
Sally,
The purpose behind my starting this thread and my subsequent posts have not been to force anything on anyone.
I have extensive voting power on wether i pay the toll or not. If a pirate wants me to continue paying a ransom, he has to instill the perception in me that he will keep his word(SI has had great success in this department). If he doesn't okey-dokey. He just won't get payed. It is simply cause and effect.
Josh,
we go where the bistot is, and where there is bistot, ARGH THERE BE PIRATES. Payed NAPs take the fun out of the cat and mouse game, but if we are caught we would rather pay a ransom. Its just more conveinient, and more economical. I might add, that we have several inexperienced players in our corp, not only is it impossible to monitor every thing they do, it is silly. We take the philosophy let them play the game and learn by experience. If they get caught big deal, we will pay the ransom or replace the ship, or both even. Its part of the game. _________________ "For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack."
-Rudyard Kipling
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GlimmerMan
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Posted - 2003.11.01 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: GlimmerMan on 01/11/2003 13:08:02 Pirates of any type are lazy t**ts, and if you pay them you're a t**t too! If you weren't stupid enough to get caught these lamers would have to work for thier isk like the rest of us and piracy wouldn't exist. Pirates are just too stupid/lazy to make any money on their own - they are weak on their own and they know this. So they gang up on people so they can feel power, power that makes them feel better about the 1 inch pe**s' they have. I have never paid a loser (pirate) and I never will, because not being a retard there is no way in hell they can ever trap me. The only way they can trap you is lag exploiting a spawn point. If you fail to check the map before jumping maybe you deserve to be killed by these baby-d**k having losers. People who pay pirates are as bad as pirates in my book, and just as spineless and lame. __________________
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Davian Windspear
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Posted - 2003.11.01 13:37:00 -
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Space Invaders Definately do kill even after payment, i have 3 or 4 instances of it happening to other players and for no reason other then "they felt like it" so the rule is dont pay them, you are just getting them more ships and equipement till they reach the point they dont need your funding then will go on a total killing spree lol
The other day my freind was killed by camping SI even though he rebooted before going through the gate and has an adsl connection. The amount of drones caused this and they had no intention of even letting the character load up. These weak tactics cant be fun, they definately are not for the receiver. I just wonder why pirates call others carebears for mining and shooting ai pirates when its pretty obvious that gate camping is much less skillfull/exciting/dangerous then any other activity in eve!!! (including docking!!) I just hope CCP do something about it soon, as while the option is there the lamers will use it, specially those at SI Who also run if there is anything that will shoot back...
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 13:41:00 -
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"Pirates are just too stupid/lazy to make any money on their own - they are weak on their own and they know this. So they gang up on people so they can feel power, power that makes them feel better about the 1 inch pe**s' they have."
... The effect would perhaps be better if this sort of speech came from a freelancer, not a member of large corporation which is notorious for pointing out how big and important the are... :s
(and too stupid/lazy to make money? please, like afk-mining or rat hunting actually requires much brains or effort...)
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.11.01 13:43:00 -
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Quote: If you weren't stupid enough to get caught these lamers would have to work for thier isk like the rest of us and piracy wouldn't exist.
yes, because included with the game is a book entitled How to avoid all pirates, indefinatly, and its illistrated too, so there is no reason for a noob to ever get caught.
what was i thinking. _________________ "For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack."
-Rudyard Kipling
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Masi
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Posted - 2003.11.01 14:00:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: GlimmerMan on 01/11/2003 13:08:02 Pirates of any type are lazy t**ts, and if you pay them you're a t**t too! If you weren't stupid enough to get caught these lamers would have to work for thier isk like the rest of us and piracy wouldn't exist. Pirates are just too stupid/lazy to make any money on their own - they are weak on their own and they know this. So they gang up on people so they can feel power, power that makes them feel better about the 1 inch pe**s' they have. I have never paid a loser (pirate) and I never will, because not being a retard there is no way in hell they can ever trap me. The only way they can trap you is lag exploiting a spawn point. If you fail to check the map before jumping maybe you deserve to be killed by these baby-d**k having losers. People who pay pirates are as bad as pirates in my book, and just as spineless and lame.
Just cause u spend 23 hours a day mining for money everyone else has 2? Have fun wasting ur life away you daft t**t. While i come on for 2 hours and make your cash flow but the funny thing is. I had fun with a group of friends for a few hours. You spent a day sitting there watching an Asteriod being fired on. Why do we go round in numbers? Maybe because 2v1 = better success? Or maybe 8v1 ? Why risk lossing your own ship, when u can out number and get a victory? -------------------------
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 01/11/2003 14:24:36
[sally/molly/whatever spouted up some froth]
Quote: 4. We sometimes say someone is free to pass and blow him up anyway, to shut him up. 5. We are high quality pirates and I am sure, that we keep our word on a high level ratio, maybe even 100%. I don't know exactly, I can't control it, but I always kept my word.
Can we play spot the contradiction?
How anyone can trust anything these perfidious chancers might promise is beyond me ...
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Mastema
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Posted - 2003.11.01 15:01:00 -
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"SI are chicken****s.. and uttery SCUM - they try to bluff us that they got balls when they all are accually hiding behind their Big mouth and numbers.
They act with no respect to other players and should recive no respect - when i hear about SI i think of Bullies.. Big mouth but when no one to back them up
Face me 1 on 1 and weŚll see who has the balls"
Dreez, I wonder, would you stick to that offer? or you just giving your jaw (fingers?) a workout with that statement?
Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 15:19:00 -
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Though Dreez might or might not take up the Space Invader offers of "honourable" combat; some people do.
I recommend perusal of This Recent Thread that graphically decribes;
Cult of Cthulhu, NVA
vs
Space Invaders, Bioduddies
In formal one-on-one combat.
It's hilarious!
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.01 16:42:00 -
[76]
YAARRRRRRRRRR!
No more mr. good pirate!
I just be watching the pirate of teh carribeen!
Avast me harties! arRRRGh!
We be boarding all ships from now on! until we find Jade and sacrifice her to our aztec god, the great STFU!
Then the curse will be lifted and we'll go pillaging once again!
SHIVER ME TIMBERS! -
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 16:46:00 -
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"I just be watching the pirate of teh carribeen!
Avast me harties! arRRRGh!
We be boarding all ships from now on! until we find Jade and sacrifice her to our aztec god, the great STFU!
Then the curse will be lifted and we'll go pillaging once again!"
^o^
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 16:56:00 -
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Quote: We be boarding all ships from now on! until we find Jade and sacrifice her to our aztec god, the great STFU!
Thats actually quite funny Viceroy ;)
I am playing a kind of space cadet pokemon varient myself at the moment;
gotta-shut-em-all-up
I've got Molly and Trap already and I'm kinda betting "the general" is not going to have a hellova lot to say for a while ...
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gaya'aijia
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Posted - 2003.11.01 16:59:00 -
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I dont know Jade, I'm afraid we will be hearing more of these new generation Invaders.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.01 17:45:00 -
[80]
What corporate thief joined Space Invaders?
Convert Stations
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.01 17:48:00 -
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stfu, he is my best friend falzone. he's a very generous and lovable fellow. -
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.01 17:50:00 -
[82]
Tell me, 'stfu' is pre-printed on the form you fill out here ain't it? 
Convert Stations
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.11.01 20:17:00 -
[83]
see i can behave
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Channelname: Local Listener: Lilan Kahn Session started: 2003.11.01 18:14:05
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[ 2003.11.01 18:14:31 ] Lilan Kahn > O_o [ 2003.11.01 18:17:52 ] Lilan Kahn > mony or your life [ 2003.11.01 18:17:54 ] NewChina > hello [ 2003.11.01 18:18:12 ] Lilan Kahn > 2m and il let you move abut [ 2003.11.01 18:18:36 ] NewChina > 1.5 sounds good :) [ 2003.11.01 18:18:46 ] Lilan Kahn > aye it dose [ 2003.11.01 18:18:48 ] NewChina > check wallet [ 2003.11.01 18:18:49 ] Lilan Kahn > have a nice day [ 2003.11.01 18:18:59 ] NewChina > you too
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.11.01 20:27:00 -
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Quote: see i can behave
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Channelname: Local Listener: Lilan Kahn Session started: 2003.11.01 18:14:05
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[ 2003.11.01 18:14:31 ] Lilan Kahn > O_o [ 2003.11.01 18:17:52 ] Lilan Kahn > mony or your life [ 2003.11.01 18:17:54 ] NewChina > hello [ 2003.11.01 18:18:12 ] Lilan Kahn > 2m and il let you move abut [ 2003.11.01 18:18:36 ] NewChina > 1.5 sounds good :) [ 2003.11.01 18:18:46 ] Lilan Kahn > aye it dose [ 2003.11.01 18:18:48 ] NewChina > check wallet [ 2003.11.01 18:18:49 ] Lilan Kahn > have a nice day [ 2003.11.01 18:18:59 ] NewChina > you too
Hmm... NewChina is playing the game since the beginning. You could have squeezed her out :-). -- Stories: #1 --
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Muhad'dib
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Posted - 2003.11.01 22:37:00 -
[85]
lol :D Is this guy for real?
   
Quote: "He who controls the spice, controls the universe!"
-- Frank Herbert's DUNE
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.11.02 02:22:00 -
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Sally i gusse i coud, but hey it was justa vexor nothing fancy, and i was just out too seee if coud chacht her after she jumped by for thr 10th time whil i was on gurad duty 
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Darth Vodka
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Posted - 2003.11.02 03:19:00 -
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Quote: When we demand a toll, we require you to pay ALL of it. not just what you can afford and logoff.
Thats not considered "paying the toll"
You're a bit of a dipsh!t viceroy
If you had it you're way, you'd want a hacking skill to see how much people have in their wallets
Don't even bother opening up a conversation if you're not even going to believe the other pilots, trying to pass yourselves off as 'honourable pirates' - i've never laughed so hard.
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.11.02 03:27:00 -
[88]
OMG, a wallet hacking skill!
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.02 05:41:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: When we demand a toll, we require you to pay ALL of it. not just what you can afford and logoff.
Thats not considered "paying the toll"
You're a bit of a dipsh!t viceroy
If you had it you're way, you'd want a hacking skill to see how much people have in their wallets
Don't even bother opening up a conversation if you're not even going to believe the other pilots, trying to pass yourselves off as 'honourable pirates' - i've never laughed so hard.
Yeah right
Err yeah ok, who died and made you the "pirate king"?
you cant believe how many pilots we hold up say "dude i only have [insert 5 digit number] isk in my wallet, pls dont kill me", and then they pull out a few mil when their ship goes down to hull.
All statistics show it: if you pay the toll, you'll go free 100%. If you logoff during negociation you die. simple.
btw have a cookie for the dipsh!t comment, very intelligent, kthxbye. -
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Archain
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Posted - 2003.11.02 07:44:00 -
[90]
NO, Viceroy listen!
OMGWTFBBQ! A wallet hacking skill!
Heh heh =)
Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD]
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