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Bj Queeen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.22 06:40:18 -
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its getting pretty close to April guys. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
558
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Posted - 2015.03.22 07:21:18 -
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Madd Adda wrote:you realize this is the concept stage and isn't a reflection of what will be released right? wouldn't make sense to have something that is suppose to be invisible to sensors magically appear.
I wouldn't use that logic in this game, or any form of logic really. It works two ways in saying that as well. The new intelligence array won't be an I-Win button any more than AFK cloaking is.
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Cancel Align NOW
Greater Order Of Destruction The Good Christian Society
484
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Posted - 2015.03.22 08:32:22 -
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I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2015.03.22 08:51:31 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local
Can't wait for local removal.
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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
58
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Posted - 2015.03.22 08:53:06 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local Can't wait for local removal.
A good trade off for this would be removing local in systems that use it.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2276
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:06:54 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:Dradis Aulmais wrote:Pft could grow balls so CCP gave out some.
Afk cloaking has never been a problem for us. Yeah, if truly afk, no big deal. This array seems to be worded to affect non-afk cloakers. I support this change even though I relied on AFK'ing in game to get kills. It was overpowered because it could be exploited using the "if truly afk, no big deal".
I'd play a few hours a day, the rest I'd sit in someones system truly afk but because my status could never be determined they either had to be on guard, pvp fitted for 24/7 or they had to undock and do their isk making. Every day or so at a random interval I'd do a quick scout and kill one. I managed to kill 22 ships that way without dying in an alliance hub filled with people.
I would have supported leaving afk cloakers alone and adding a dimming of the character icon in local after a period of inactivity but no big deal.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2921
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:19:36 -
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AFK cloaking should be nerfed just as soon as someone can show how an afk cloaker can hurt anyone.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2276
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:24:23 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:AFK cloaking should be nerfed just as soon as someone can show how an afk cloaker can hurt anyone. Pretending you don't understand the problem doesn't make the problem go away. Its like saying hibernating bears are not dangerous because they're hibernating. ******** point of view to take isn't it.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
633
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:36:40 -
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If I read "afk cloaking" one more time I'm going to all of your houses and stuffing a potato in your exhaust pipes. This is like, "I saw a spider in my bathroom last week and I'll never be able to shower again for the rest of my life." (That's why people who never play tennis keep a tennis racket in the closet - spider control ... well, yeah, to drain spaghetti as well, but I digress.)
It's not the afk cloaker I worry about. It's the one not afk...like ME!
The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
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Diemos Hiaraki
Perkone Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:09:34 -
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Not a problem either way. The entosis thingy will probs turn it off |
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:28:05 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:If I read "afk cloaking" one more time I'm going to all of your houses and stuffing a potato in your exhaust pipes. Cloaking afk.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Get Off My Lawn
87
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:33:03 -
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As some have said above this is a good thing it will force a change of game play. I've said it before when you are in space you shouldn't be 100% safe.
pos - you can be bounced out safe spot - you can be probed out cloaked - unless your stupid and sitting at a warp in point, your not getting decloaked
now with this you can't have a safe for hours on end while you are afk from game unless docked.
my hope is that it will take time to find cloaked people say a minimum of 3 hour |
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
223
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:42:41 -
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During the Sat morning event, Yitterbum made it sound like you could manually "pulse" the module like once an hour and it would decloak everything in system. he made it seem liek manual so you couldn't time it or anything.
Then you had to probe stuff down manually
If the cloaker is truly afk, easy kill, if they are not afk, they can cloak back up after the 30 sec timer |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8049
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Posted - 2015.03.22 14:10:13 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
o/ jhe3elooloo.;
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Serene Repose
2451
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Posted - 2015.03.22 14:46:31 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: o/ jhe3elooloo.; Mr Epeen I'd log onto his blog but I'm not registering with Google as long as they're cozy with aliens. What I'd like to know is who taught that gorilla how to flip somebody off? Purely rhetorical.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.
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Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2015.03.22 14:48:41 -
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If all this is true, then Aura should come on and say, "You are now naked, and so am I." Then, she should giggle a girlish giggle.
Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
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Hal Morsh
Fruidian Logic Dramatic Exit.
272
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:20:23 -
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If null instant local is removed, and system wide D-scan inhibitors are made available where you have to probe everything you can't see on grid (or isn't a celestial on overview) then cloaky pricks aren't going to be much of a problem. Unless you don't use a d-scan inhibitor, then ping away and kill the prick.
I bet people will quickly find out with cloaky pings that all those afk cloakers are not afk after all. This big game of Schrodinger's cat will probably come to an end.
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
636
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Posted - 2015.03.22 15:24:25 -
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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury; signifying nothing. -Willie the Shake-
The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1147
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Posted - 2015.03.22 16:46:03 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local Can't wait for local removal. This is the most inane idea that people have latched onto for years. They remove local from Null Sec and I would just go to a Worm Hole
You get more ISK and they can't hot drop you there.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
709
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Posted - 2015.03.22 17:58:58 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local Can't wait for local removal. This is the most inane idea that people have latched onto for years. They remove local from Null Sec and I would just go to a Worm Hole You get more ISK and they can't hot drop you there.
Thats what you think
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10290
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:30:35 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Arronicus wrote:And so the tears begin from those who aren't going to be able to harass anymore simply by sitting cloaked up. The only thing better than this change is the sporadic outbursts of tears from those upset to see it happening. Most people I know in null who complain about afk cloakers are VERY eager to be able to kill them after the change, so I have NO clue where you got your 9/10 stats from. Tears? Hell, I welcome this change. It opens up a whole new level of traps and asshattery that can be accomplished. Within a day of the change or deployment of this thing, I get to find out who really wants to fight, or how to exploit the weaknesses in the system to make people even more scared. How is this not a good thing? Imagine the paranoia that ill spread when if eventhough they have the whole system spammed with these things, I can still find a place to hide and make their lives misery. Maybe I start fitting Hounds for max cloaked speeds, a point and a cyno, so by the time this thing pinpoints me, the ship is 50km away and you still cant find it, and you spend allllll day chasing a freakin ghost, and when I get home from a long day of working and being all up in your dreams, my buddies nuzzle the pig nearby while I work up on your miners and drop em while im pointing that tasty orca you for some reason brought to the anom, assured by your new fancy thingamajigger that im nowhere to be found. I welcome this change with open arms. Hell, remove local while youre at it. Id welcome that too. Tears? Sure. Tears of freakin joy.
People like Arronicus have to believe that people who hold a view point must do so for selfish reasons, because if they didn't it would mean that they might be on to something and that would challenge their worldview.
I get it all the time as a null sec anom farmer who isn't afraid of afk cloakers and also as a high sec mission runner who thinks all the people complaining about gankers are weak minded ninnys. RIGHT NOW Confederation of XXPizza is camping my Delve playground, screw em, they ain't gonna catch me and I'm still going to make isk.
Afk cloakers and gankers are just CONTENT with which those of us with actual space-balls can prove our game playing superiority, many of us actually LIKE having to outthink people in order to fill our wallets with filthy isk. The constant whining and begging CCP to nerf them (whether afk-cloakers or gankers) actually ends up nerfing US (the Indiana Jones in Space style PVEr) while doing nothing to the gankers and cloakers because they will just find another way to screw with people.
These anti- types can take their short sighted protectionism thinking and shove it up the nearest black hole. |
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
287
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:44:45 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: "Will someone please go take care of the cloaky that's somewhere within 50km of planet 3 for me because I wanna mine and he might be armed and have bad intentions!!!!!".. once again typed in local from the perfect safety of a station.
Blowing up the station will solve this problem once and for all.
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Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
146
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Posted - 2015.03.22 18:45:21 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:Quote: E. Observatory arrays
Dedicated to intelligence gathering. ...... be able to affect or pinpoint cloak users. ....
Speechless
Hey! Heeeyyy! OP, hold on a second!
Phew, I'm out of shape.
Here. You dropped this.
Magic Crystal Ball
You really should pay more attention, these items are very dangerous to untrained users. I think I managed to get to it before anyeone else did.
You're welcome, take care!
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Cancel Align NOW
Greater Order Of Destruction The Good Christian Society
485
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Posted - 2015.03.22 19:33:28 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:Cancel Align NOW wrote:I think this idea goes hand in hand with the removal of local Can't wait for local removal. This is the most inane idea that people have latched onto for years. They remove local from Null Sec and I would just go to a Worm Hole You get more ISK and they can't hot drop you there.
Who has latched on to that idea? |
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1860
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Posted - 2015.03.22 19:47:14 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:Quote: E. Observatory arrays
Dedicated to intelligence gathering. ...... be able to affect or pinpoint cloak users. ....
Speechless not really surprising, the concensus was, when you lose your local, well give you the ability to hunt those of us who are AFK
theyre nuking local, so you get the pinpointer
its called balance |
Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
262
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Posted - 2015.03.22 20:33:09 -
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Just saw UaE posting in here and thought I'd say jhe3elooloo.;!
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Probebly Afk Cloaking
C0DE.. Shadow Politics
13
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Posted - 2015.03.22 20:47:32 -
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really no yeah for sure really
ok |
Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
76
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Posted - 2015.03.22 20:47:34 -
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So, unless it decloaks cloakers, you just go to your safe, be cloaked, set velocity to max and just constantly move. sure they can come on grid with you, but good luck finding them.
tldr: solves nothing :p |
Nana Skalski
Republic University Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.03.22 21:09:38 -
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How will they exclude people that cloak actively, not afk? |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5226
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Posted - 2015.03.22 21:18:38 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:If I read "afk cloaking" one more time I'm going to all of your houses and stuffing a potato in your exhaust pipes. This is like, "I saw a spider in my bathroom last week and I'll never be able to shower again for the rest of my life." (That's why people who never play tennis keep a tennis racket in the closet - spider control ... well, yeah, to drain spaghetti as well, but I digress.)
It's not the afk cloaker I worry about. It's the one not afk...like ME! It's not quite the same, it's more like you got into your shower once and got skewered in the chest by a spike from the wall. Now when you shower you can tell that the spike is there, but have no idea if its going to pop out or not.
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