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Curzon Dax Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.23 05:21:00 - [1] So I just completed the L4 mission "Infiltrated Outposts." I work for a L4 Q16 Command Agent. I have Negotiations L5, Political Connections L5, and Military Connections L4. After finishing the mission, I got 5,734 loyalty points. When I finish training Military Connections to L5, by my math, that same mision will reward 6021 loyalty points. I'm thinking to myself "Not bad!" Then one of my corp mates told me that he works for a L4 Q18 agent, and that same mission pays him 9,000 loyalty points. I can't account for the 3,000 LP difference between us. I'm doing missions in 0.8 space, he's doing missions in 0.5 space. I know that "lowsec" agents are supposed to have greater rewards, but does that apply to highsec too? Do agents in 0.5 space give more LP than agents in 0.8 space? What could be accounting for him getting 3k more LP than me on the same mission given the above? -Curzon Dax
Kassidus Gallente Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2006.10.23 05:25:00 - [2] His agent is higher quality, higher quality = better rewards and LP, low sec just means better loot.
Curzon Dax Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.23 05:30:00 - [3] My agent is Q16. His Agent is Q18. I thought that literally translated into 16% and 18% above standard rewards. Does it not? is the difference of two really responsible for a 1/3 increase in loyalty points per mission? His Vengeance mission pays 12k loyalty points for pete's sake! -Curzon Dax
Ashira Twilight	Posted - 2006.10.23 05:31:00 - [4] I changed agents, from an 18(in a .9 system) quality to a 13 quality(in a .5 system), and I get quite a bit more LP for the same missions.
Legende Two Brothers Mining Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 06:11:00 - [5] Originally by: Ashira Twilight I changed agents, from an 18(in a .9 system) quality to a 13 quality(in a .5 system), and I get quite a bit more LP for the same missions. Can anyone else testify the same, getting more LP from an agent due to system security? Going down in quality but up in LP, only other factor I can think that would affect it is the move to 0.5 ...
Talia Noh'Diatech Caldari Freespacer Confederation Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2006.10.23 06:36:00 - [6] I saw the same effect between level 3 missions.... The difference in LP offers in Aunenen (0.4) and Kaunokka (Carebearland) where very distinct.
Zaldoza Caldari Holographic MindWare Constructions	Posted - 2006.10.23 07:21:00 - [7] Yes you get rewarded for the pvp risk,an 0,5 agent will often send you to low sec.Now you gotta choose if the reward is worth the risk Zaldoc...Miner Zaldoza..Mission Runner
Okkie2	Posted - 2006.10.23 10:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Legende Originally by: Ashira Twilight I changed agents, from an 18(in a .9 system) quality to a 13 quality(in a .5 system), and I get quite a bit more LP for the same missions. Can anyone else testify the same, getting more LP from an agent due to system security? Going down in quality but up in LP, only other factor I can think that would affect it is the move to 0.5 ... yup, the lower the sec the higher the agent rewards. Doing missions for Caldari Navy in Aramachi will give you a lot more LP's and rewards as the higher quality agent in Motsu.
loony thezoon	Posted - 2006.10.23 10:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Curzon Dax So I just completed the L4 mission "Infiltrated Outposts." I work for a L4 Q16 Command Agent. I have Negotiations L5, Political Connections L5, and Military Connections L4. After finishing the mission, I got 5,734 loyalty points. When I finish training Military Connections to L5, by my math, that same mision will reward 6021 loyalty points. I'm thinking to myself "Not bad!" Then one of my corp mates told me that he works for a L4 Q18 agent, and that same mission pays him 9,000 loyalty points. I can't account for the 3,000 LP difference between us. I'm doing missions in 0.8 space, he's doing missions in 0.5 space. I know that "lowsec" agents are supposed to have greater rewards, but does that apply to highsec too? Do agents in 0.5 space give more LP than agents in 0.8 space? What could be accounting for him getting 3k more LP than me on the same mission given the above? What the effective quality of the two agents. If your friend has been running missions for that agent for a long time, the effective quality should be much higher than 18. Not sure if this counts though.
NoNah	Posted - 2006.10.23 10:49:00 - [10] Yes, quality points are pretty much equal to 1% per point, with an index at q0. Sec status does however have a much greater impact on rewards then quality does. The numbers ive heard but not been able to confirm in anyway, are 10% per . With negotiations 5 your effective agen quality should be around 41 + standing increase. And then youve got 45% increase(For some reason these add up and does not multiply), from your advanced connections. In other words your average q41(+standing) agent in 0.8 should give you approximatley - 3955 LP per Infiltrated Outpost. Wich is 120% of what you wouldve been given for the same in 1.0 space - 3295. Highly speculative ofc. Bottom line anyway - lower sec - higher gains. Higher quality - slightly higher gains.

Sphynx Stormlord	Posted - 2006.10.23 12:02:00 - [11] System security level is FAR more significant than agent quality, in my experience.
Naran Darkmood Gallente MC Cubed Inc Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.23 12:53:00 - [12] Originally by: NoNah Yes, quality points are pretty much equal to 1% per point, with an index at q0. Sec status does however have a much greater impact on rewards then quality does. The numbers ive heard but not been able to confirm in anyway, are 10% per . about 10% per .1 system security is my experience as well.
Depko	Posted - 2006.10.23 13:33:00 - [13] I have made a LP statistic of myself with Lvl4 agents in 0.9 and 0.5 systems with various Qaulity. The EQ, effective quality, is what does matter. if the agent is q=18, but your standing is very high, you may have eq=45, but with low standign you may have eq=30. The security stainding of the systems where you do your missions has very big affect on LP too. Here are my statistcs on my pages, click the \|"Level 4" link.
Depko	Posted - 2006.10.23 13:45:00 - [14] Edited by: Depko on 23/10/2006 13:45:30 To have best loyalty points you need this : - related conenctiosn skills (military connections for warfare agenst + the other connections skill) - effective quality (quality of agent modyfied by standing and skills, look in agent info) - system security standing (going to 0.5 from 0.9 is much better than going from q=15 to q=19 agent)
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.23 14:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Kassidus His agent is higher quality, higher quality = better rewards and LP, low sec just means better loot. You should know better than that. Sec of system is one of the bigger LP drivers. I get over 10k LP for the same misson in an 0.3 system.
Miranda Duvall Gallente OPM Holdings	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:05:00 - [16] System Security makes a lot of difference! skills top 20 My skill list
Loraen	Posted - 2006.10.24 06:02:00 - [17] Already mentioned this on another topic but.. It seems negative quality agents are unaffected by the LP increase advanced connections should give. I have a L4 Q -17 (effective Q 9) in 0.8, and then a L4 Q 18 (effective 47) in 0.6. I have lvl 4 in both advanced connections related to the agents. Comparing the agents, the better one is now giving out triple, almost quadruple amount of LPs. This is a lot more than the OP's 50% difference with 0.3 sec rating difference. I also noticed back when I got the connections skills, raising them didn't affect mr. negative's LP rewards at all, but the better agent definitely went up. Something I'll try checking when I can. That is, I'm working for a new division that uses a connections type I don't have yet.. I'll check agents in same sec systems for negative and positive quality, and recheck what happens when I start leveling the new connection skill.
Hex'Caliber Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.24 09:51:00 - [18] Anything that affects an agent's effective quality will increase your rewards, be that skills trained, sec level of the system he is in or standing. So yes, even if both agents were of the same quality the agent in the lower security level system will always pay out more all else being equal, even though both can be located in high sec. Regards HexCaliber
Zeroing	Posted - 2006.10.26 12:47:00 - [19] Annancale: 0.1 sec lvl4 ql20 All relevant skills at lvl5 Corp standing at 10 12441 lps per mission (the harder ones: AE, silence the informant, IO, WC, ...) :)
Rina Shanu Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.26 13:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Zaldoza Yes you get rewarded for the pvp risk,an 0,5 agent will often send you to low sec.Now you gotta choose if the reward is worth the risk It usualy is. More LP, better loot and pirates rarely go the lenght to scan probe your mission... With BMs you should gain a lot more from a low sec agent than from a high sec agent. ************ No more sig. No roleplay as they don't get it.

Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.26 18:28:00 - [21] Long time mission *** first time poster... I contest that agents in lower sec systems DO hand out more LP for missions How do you expect one to get 1.6m lp in 4 weeks before cold war was released? - Think your having a bad day? Imagine this, Your a siamese Twin joined at the hip,Your brother is * & your not, His lover is comming around and you only have one bottom.
Bazman Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.26 20:09:00 - [22] What the hell I do missions in 0.0, and that mission will only get me 4k LP, it would be 5k with the Connections trained up, so why does my LP suck compared to low sec and in most cases, even high sec? ----- Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a Gallente Whiner. Minmatar Whining is currently in training.
Greenbolt	Posted - 2006.10.26 20:52:00 - [23] I do that mission with a L4 Q18 in 0.3 and get ~8800 with appropriate social skills around L3. At a L4 Q14 i think (in 0.3 I get around 8200 lp... So low sec status is definatly a factor. I am not at computer (at work) so dont have much details but I can confirm that that lp range difference. I cant tell the 'effective' quality because im not logged in.


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