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vache
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:59:00 -
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Earthan, Nalrath and Solwolf.
Go get a room already.... This level of bikering is beneath you all. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ REZ - Director of Operations. RISE - Minister of External Affairs. |

Ribbo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:00:00 -
[152]
\o/ eathan!!!
props to Chon, you guys are tough to fight cos
a) you make it as on your terms as you can. b) when we do get on you your nomally stabbed up ;) c) your so persistent at the above tactics..
those reasons, the determination and the d5 system are the reason you guys are still in OR and fair play to you, the OR bar a2 is the arse end of eve imo :D
They remove the npc stations and make em conqs and it would be useful space, that space and syndicate is ideal for an infant pod pilot to learn the ways of 0.0, thats one of the reasons i liked norad, norad stood for something and tbh they were good to farm ;) we let them get rich then roll in and have some real good fights until the fight out of most of them :D
so let the good fights roll chon :D
- fanboi'ing eve-celebrities the world over. |

SigmaPi
Pandoras Mining Covanant
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:02:00 -
[153]
Originally by: vache Earthan, Nalrath and Solwolf.
Go get a room already.... This level of bikering is beneath you all.
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Earthan
Gallente GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Earthan on 26/10/2006 21:06:38 hi ribbo hi ponieus.:)
Vache i got nothing against it but prolly on weekend is my shorted time to meet ingame.
I think we will end flaming each other but i will be happy to tell you truly what i think and to hear what you truly think, ( what i suspect and makes me mad), now that we dont have anymore to worry abiour alliance morale and stuff, not having to play mr nice and shiny leader.At least thats what stoppepd me many times in rise, cause i was caring about it... - A knight in space,war veteran,Grey Council military officer. Grey Council webpage
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vache
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:22:00 -
[155]
As well you know Earthan, it never stopped me before. Hit me up for a chat any time you want to and we can talk man to man, alliance bulls**t aside. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ REZ - Director of Operations. RISE - Minister of External Affairs. |

Talidorn
Pandoras Mining Covanant
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:48:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Talidorn on 26/10/2006 21:49:29 YAY!!! I got a reference
Originally by: Vache
...I for one, think that all, bar one, of the members of PMCO constitute a damn fine corp...
Yeah! I'm the BAR ONE! As Solwolf has pointed out, I am the defiler of the old eve-rise.org site (hey, I paid for it!). They have moved to eve-rise.net now. What is in place now is my attmept at OOG fun and generosity (It does a meta refresh to their new site now)! LOL
Talidorn
PS - Solwolf fly safe mate! and thanks for my name on the forums... |

Dyneon
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.26 23:45:00 -
[157]
Could a Mod kindly lock this thread as it as run its course. The outcome shall be decided on the battlefield - not on the forums. Thanks! ----------------------------------- Dyneon RISE Minister of Internal Affairs Rear Admiral SGHQ Director of Internal Security
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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2006.10.26 23:56:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Dyneon Could a Mod kindly lock this thread as it as run its course. The outcome shall be decided on the battlefield - not on the forums. Thanks!
I believe only the OP can request this; seeing as you're not him, this thread shall remain open.
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Iss Hogai
Caldari GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.27 00:00:00 -
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I will make one post on this and one only. I never cared much about the political part or the alliance, I figured ppl with interest in that part took care about it. On at least one thing I was wrong, soooo wrong.
Diplomats.
When Vache was the only active diplomat he refused to talk to G about whatever differences there where with YAK. YOU DON'T DO IT LIKE THAT. If you are a diplomat you HAVE to do your work, especially when you are the only active one. I don't care what personal differences you have with the guys you are negotiating with. Just do it in a professional way. If you get insulted, smile and say thank you. Bring it back to the guys that actually decide stuff and then when you get new directives you can give it back with a polite voice and a friendly smile. Diplomats are the middle men. They are needed for communication between partys.
That is the whole reason I was one of the guys supporting YAK the way I did. You may think I was wrong and I respect you for that opinion. The only one I do not respect is Vache for bailing on hit duties as a diplomat when they where most needed. I hate to see friends getting alienated because of neglect.
Iss Hogai - Out
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Borg017
BIG Advanced Assault R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.27 00:42:00 -
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It just seems that this whole situation came to be because of some personal differences. It wasn't all alliance problems as I see it now. I bet you if one person from either side actually came around to apologize (both sides are guilty of immaturity) and offer to work out a solid solution, this could be settled within 2 days. Just depends on who has the bigger b@lls to do it.
For the record, I definately do not have a smile on my face when I'm trying to shoot you guys.
(do not confuse this for low morale ) -----------------------------------------------
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.27 00:54:00 -
[161]
It's still my region.

Blog
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Schneiderr
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.27 01:10:00 -
[162]
btw. thanks for the new blog BL 
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Nyk0n
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.10.27 02:04:00 -
[163]
A real shame to see possibly the oldest remaing frendship in the game (NORAD/FA) falling apart
I hope you both at least have fun
Sometimes the truth hurts..........
Dosnt stop it being true |

Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.27 02:05:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Schneiderr btw. thanks for the new blog BL 
No problem, there'll be some more frequent postings for a little while 
Blog
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Dhan
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.27 03:50:00 -
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I remember the good times when we first joined up, I had some awesome times shooting goonies together with some members of the ex-NORAD corps. Those were some good weeks. I don't think those are the members that wanted to leave RISE. I wish I could have been involved with those other members who slowly drifted away and felt not listened to by the alliance. One thing's for sure, I gave 100% to the alliance. As I still do. My joy is that the corp tags are finally starting to melt away, and theres a strong bond forming between RISE members. Should have just happened earlier.
I have to admit, I think Shivaja's last few declarations to RISE + the eve-o post are silly arrogant, but he's still one of the members I have respect for. He once took his dread into battle alongside REZ dreads even though the danger was clear. Props to you for that, and fyi, I would have had REZ reimburse your dread if you had lost it (as I mentioned as OUTBREAK was a jump or two out). Took balls.
PMCO: SigmaPi - should have spoken to me when [some members-you] relationship was getting rough. I tried tied to help but you had already made up your mind. You were definitely appreciated by some.
TOA: Ban Tier - too arrogant for anyone's good including yours, I don't like you. You turned out to be right about the one thing you and I disagreed on. But TOA does have some fantastic guys still left in corp, and some good guys that have unfortunately left the corp.
Anyway, we'll do some shooty shooty, we'll relax some, have some fun, and we'll see how things turn out longterm.
Who knows, maybe we'll find a reason to work together again. And maybe it will be a better experience.
Dhan
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vache
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.27 08:04:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Iss Hogai
Originally by: Iss Hogai When Vache was the only active diplomat he refused to talk to G about whatever differences there where with YAK. YOU DON'T DO IT LIKE THAT. If you are a diplomat you HAVE to do your work, especially when you are the only active one.
Please don't even dare to pretend to know what its like being the sole diplomat representing over 1400 people at the time. When you get slapped in the face repeatidly (which is fun at times) by an arrogant fool like G, you lose all want and will to deal with them. And, as recent events have shown, i was right about him. He and his corp brought nothing to Rise but grief and decension. G is still trying to do this, however failing pitifully i might add.
To yourself Hogai, i do have respect for you. I know you are a fighter, and that you stand fast in what you believe. I have seen this first hand myself. I only ask that in future, before you go judging people that you try and look at things from the perspective of the person on trial, and honestly ask yourself, "What would i do if i was in his/her position?".
Now, lets all grow up and quit this forum whining. Say what you have to say, but being a troll gets us no where. Anger and frustration can be taken out on the battlefield.
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moroti
Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.10.27 08:43:00 -
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Please don't even dare to pretend to know what it was like being a small corp in the new RISE. When you get slapped in the face repeatedly (which is fun at times) by arrogant fools like FA, you lose all want and will to deal with them as anything but targets. And, as recent events have shown, we were right. SGHQ and REZ brought nothing to OR but friction and ego. RISE are still trying to do this, however failing pitifully i might add.
To yourself vache, I have no respect for you. I know you are an idiot, but that you stand fast in what you believe. I have seen this first hand myself. I only ask that in future, before you go demanding people leave their space that you try and look at things from the perspective of the person on trial, and honestly ask yourself, "What would i do if i was in his/her position?".
Now, lets all grow up and quit this forum whining. Say what you have to say, but being a troll gets us nowhere. Anger and frustration can be taken out on the battlefield.
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WiZZyWiGG
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.27 09:00:00 -
[168]
My anger and frustration cant be taking out on the battlefield so can we keep it here?
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BNC makes me feel Naughty |

Crellion
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.27 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dhan You wardeced a 0.0 alliance, have never seen our space, but your engagements outside OR (empire shoppers???) lead you to believe that you have anything relevant to comment on our fighting ability?
Fabulous!
Originally by: Crellion
Dont you believe it. This is RISE we are talking about ... if you think RA is bad... good fights indeed... ... Glad to hear it I havent actually been to Outer Ring but I have "fought" RISE (guess you missed the eleventy war decs), may the future bring more fun for all ... (for now my comment stands)
Dhan
Dont be such an *** check your KB or ask your pilots... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Shyra Storm
Gallente Kombinat
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:21:00 -
[170]
Funny that RISE kicked out some corps out of their alliance and several corps attacks and hit them hard! 
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D75485
Underworld Zombies
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:08:00 -
[171]
sounds fun 
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LoKesh
Amarr InQuest Ascension Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:13:00 -
[172]
Let me clear up some of the likely flame that my posting will inspire;
- Yes, Vertigo still exists - No, we're not doomed - Yes, we're stubborn bastards who may not know when to quit - Yes, we are rebuilding (that means new members and better structure)
So... our point of view and what this looks like from the outside - RISE has been the one entity in this game that saw the same potential we saw in ourselves and believed VC actually had a reason to exist. They've encouraged our growth, helped us find a place to live and provided some help when we've asked for it. And Vache has been on me making sure we're not decending into apathy. In exchange they haven't asked for much. We lent some support against YouWhat and I wish is could have been more (no excuses - we were small and not yet re-organized - just not ready for a real fight).
RISE has been straight forward with us from the beginning and we know what to expect from them. Perhaps it's different internally - but externally they're trustworthy.
As the YouWhat war wound down we watched several corporations leave RISE. We knew about the ongoing tension between ex-FA and ex-NORAD and wrote these departures off to that. When, at first, these groups were still friendly to RISE we extened diplomatic contacts requesting positive standings. These requests were repeatedly ignored. When we did get a response it was a one word answer "No." (I can't even remember our diplomats asking a yes/no question, so I'm still at a loss there) I can respect someone who contacts you and says, "We won't set standings because of X,Y,Z" or "We just like to fight, so you're out of luck." But no response is just pathetic.
This has left us with an ally on one side who has continually been helpful and true to their word and a group of apparent renegades who are to arrogant to even bother with words.
What little might we have stands with RISE. See you on the battlefield.
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DoctorGonzo
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:17:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Blacklight It's still my region.

I take issue with that statement - The Outer Ring is much more mine than it is yours! 
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Meridin Velasces
Sensus Numinis Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:51:00 -
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My best wishes to CHON and TOA. I have no idea why this is happening but Rise did a deadly mistake, thats for sure. 
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undercoverlikeabrother
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:59:00 -
[175]
Only thing I know about rise is that we went up thier the other day but they wouldnt fight us(even though they had a bigger fleet ). Gl to both of ya I guess.
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Aggravated
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.30 12:00:00 -
[176]
Oops posted on alt .^^
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myggan
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.31 02:03:00 -
[177]
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
Originally by: Blacklight It's still my region.

I take issue with that statement - The Outer Ring is much more mine than it is yours! 
Both of you know that i am the rightful owner of outer ring null
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.31 08:41:00 -
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Just for the record: I challenge all the claims above.
Outer Ring is mine. You will hear of my lawyers soon.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.31 09:10:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Gyro DuAquin1 on 31/10/2006 09:11:41
Originally by: Crean NaVar Just for the record: I challenge all the claims above.
Outer Ring is mine. You will hear of my lawyers soon.
Dear Mr Blacklight, I got called by my client Crean NaVar, he told me that you and some other random guy that seems to be your Doctor, is contesting the Claim of my client of the Region of Outer Ring. We and our Client are not agreeing with the Statment of yours and your Doctor, in which you are trying to claim the Region of Outer Ring. Mr Crean NaVar is the real owner of Outer Ring, and if you and your Doctor are contesting this claim again we will meet in the Court of Yuali to have this claime confirmed by a judge. So I give you Mr Blacklight and Mr DocotorGonzo the change to get out of this with no loses, if you trying to claim the Region of Outer Ring again my client gave me full backup to go for the beer of yours and then for the beer of the Alliance Band of Brothers.
regards
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Zirator
Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.10.31 11:25:00 -
[180]
Sorry but I have to revoke all claims to the Outer Ring. I have decided that it will be an asteroid reserve. Were Veldspar asteroids can prosper. To long they have been harrased by the mining lasers of carebears. I will do my best to protect the Veldspar in Outer Ring against the horrible threat that mining barges pose to them.
So please Blacklight, Dr. Gonzo and all the others drop your claim for the sake of the little baby Veldspar roids. They have feeling as well.
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