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scabbsssjr
Gallente The Afterlife
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Posted - 2006.11.05 20:45:00 -
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Didn't someone make a post recently say nothing is happening up their?
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somebody
Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 21:50:00 -
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That is complete bull**** ban tieer was shot while having you as blue but yes it wasnt a blue shooting a blue it was you not having the balls to inform us that you was making a change to standings you was just being cowards and looking to stab someone in the back when they thought u was still friendly
Originally by: Dhan There was no blue-on-blue shooting besides YAK shooting RISE members while we were still blue.
Arrogance and disrespect from some of your leaders however is not tolerated.
Originally by: somebody Edited by: somebody on 05/11/2006 17:40:05 Wont be long now nyack before they start shooting you while blue like other people who tried to stay friends and show support for the alliance.... once a backstabber always a backstabber... actions like these have really disapointed me and a lot of old friends have lost my respect
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Fast Track
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.05 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nyack
Originally by: Fast Track
Well, you are pretty much clueless as to anything that went on. The former NORAD who are mostly euro couldn't hold their own against YouWhat. So what was really the sense of even having them in the alliance to begin with. As we are seeing in the fight against the Ronin they can't even hold their own against what is supposedly a weak euro based Rise. Enough said about it now.
think about who u are insulting! Greyc did huge work for RISE and talking trash about all ex norad corps as a group is very insulting and if i were you i would look for pulling more corps into the conflict. also as i understand there are a few ex norad corps still in rise that might be very offended by jerks like you. so watch your tongue noobling!!!
I'm talking about all the ex NORAD who left Rise and are now attacking us. If you think that includes you, so be it. Name calling sure shows your IQ level. 
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somebody
Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 23:01:00 -
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Fast track why dont you stfu as you obviously havent got a clue as im sure your too busy mining most the time and as for name calling im just stating a few facts that most of RISE are well aware of but get uptight about so you blabber more and more crap and as for us attacking you we all know you started this conflict so deal with it
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Dhan
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.05 23:35:00 -
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There's some very bitter pilots on this forum. Calm down.
Fyi, Fast Track is not a miner. Now you can stop being so sure about that.
I see a lot of posts coming up while the buddy list shows the pilot is logged off ingame.
Less forum posting and more fighting pls.
Dhan
Originally by: somebody Fast track why dont you stfu as you obviously havent got a clue as im sure your too busy mining most the time and as for name calling im just stating a few facts that most of RISE are well aware of but get uptight about so you blabber more and more crap and as for us attacking you we all know you started this conflict so deal with it
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Galum Arfamon
Red 42
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Posted - 2006.11.05 23:36:00 -
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Good luck RISE!
And whoever wins or loses - just make it a good, smack-free and fun fight (a la TOXIN)!
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Skelator
Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.05 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:39:35 Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:38:44
Well, you are pretty much clueless as to anything that went on. The former NORAD who are mostly euro couldn't hold their own against YouWhat. So what was really the sense of even having them in the alliance to begin with. As we are seeing in the fight against the Ronin they can't even hold their own against what is supposedly a weak euro based Rise. Enough said about it now.
Couldnt hold their OWN?
And you are?
You must be Kidding right? Even the Major Alliances AND MAJOR PLAYERS of this game have Nothing but Respect for N.O.R.A.D.
Your propaganda is really amusing.. 
This is "NOT" a IMP post but my Own Opinion.
Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected]) StrongHold Knights First into Battle Last Out |

Fast Track
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Skelator Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:39:35 Edited by: Skelator on 05/11/2006 23:38:44
Well, you are pretty much clueless as to anything that went on. The former NORAD who are mostly euro couldn't hold their own against YouWhat. So what was really the sense of even having them in the alliance to begin with. As we are seeing in the fight against the Ronin they can't even hold their own against what is supposedly a weak euro based Rise. Enough said about it now.
Couldnt hold their OWN?
And you are?
You must be Kidding right? Even the Major Alliances AND MAJOR PLAYERS of this game have Nothing but Respect for N.O.R.A.D.
Your propaganda is really amusing.. 
This is "NOT" a IMP post but my Own Opinion.
Actually, who are you and why are you adding your 2 cents worth here, Skelator. I haven't seen you fighting in OR, so I would just go blabber on some other thread if I were you.
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whohuhwhat
Gallente principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 00:30:00 -
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Respectfully Fast Track, please do not flame those who you know nothing about.
Skelator and his crew as well as others from IMP fought against and with the residents of OR for a long time.
All i'm asking for is that you allow others to post their feelings and thoughts with out the 'who the hell are you' and 'i haven't seen you do any fighting' etc....
As to the conflict at hand, i won't go into it as there is enough hurt feelings in this thread.
whohuhwhat Keeper of the herd
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Fast Track
Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: whohuhwhat Respectfully Fast Track, please do not flame those who you know nothing about.
Skelator and his crew as well as others from IMP fought against and with the residents of OR for a long time.
All i'm asking for is that you allow others to post their feelings and thoughts with out the 'who the hell are you' and 'i haven't seen you do any fighting' etc....
As to the conflict at hand, i won't go into it as there is enough hurt feelings in this thread.
People from outside parties posting their opinions about the current affairs of OR really shouldn't base their posts on the past. I'm stating the current flow of events and to have people post relating to bygone years, really doesn't pertain to the facts at hand. I have the utmost respect for the former NORAD corps that have not shafted Rise, as for the ones that have left us and decided to fight us, that respect will have to be earned.
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Fig Neuton
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Posted - 2006.11.06 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fig Neuton on 06/11/2006 00:49:13
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whohuhwhat
Gallente principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 00:49:00 -
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Fair enough, you have your opinion and if you want to be an ass go ahead.
I am done.
whohuhwhat Keeper of the herd
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Roland 99
Minmatar Battlestars Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 01:37:00 -
[223]
Wow what an *******.
you should be run over in the streets and raped by angry clydesdales _______ My pod is filled with beer. Dont make me spring a leak
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Skelator
Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 02:12:00 -
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Couldnt hold their OWN?
And you are?
You must be Kidding right? Even the Major Alliances AND MAJOR PLAYERS of this game have Nothing but Respect for N.O.R.A.D.
Your propaganda is really amusing.. 
This is "NOT" a IMP post but my Own Opinion.
Quote:
Actually, who are you and why are you adding your 2 cents worth here, Skelator. I haven't seen you fighting in OR, so I would just go blabber on some other thread if I were you.
LOL I guess I Could bring down my Ghost Fleet Cavalry to quiet your nerves but.. Im sure N.O.R.A.D. doesn't need any Help with a Blowhard Forum ***** like you.
AS FOR US NEVER BEING DOWN THEIR IF YOU RESEARCHED THE STUPIDITY YOU SPEWED ON THE FORUMS YOU WOULD SEE YOU JUST MADE A GIANT FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF.. (Again)
Regards Skelator
Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected]) StrongHold Knights First into Battle Last Out |

Skelator
Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: whohuhwhat Fair enough, you have your opinion and if you want to be an ass go ahead.
I am done.
I have nothing but MAJOR Respect for you with this Post. Your Efforts are not useless as we all see their are alot of good players in R.I.S.E. too

Good Luck Skelator
Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected]) StrongHold Knights First into Battle Last Out |

Soulie
principle of motion R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 03:08:00 -
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Calming down and taking a deep breath would perhaps be a nice thing.
This flamefest does not suit either RISE or THE RONIN. Both of our alliances; should and do know that we aint all that bad or all that good and flaming surely is not gonna make us look better.
Grey Council. For whatever reasons you were dragged in here, I on the behalf of PROMO and hopefully RISE as well, offer you an apology. I have not read all the posts on this 8 or 9 pages flamefest board and wont. NORAD was not a bad alliance and wont ever be so in my mind; I am sure FA wasnt either; I didnt fly with them back then. The fact that Nrd and FA merged; tells me only one thing; they liked each other. Now cool it folks; pls.
Soulie
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Galdoth
BIG Advanced Assault R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 07:31:00 -
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Come on cut out the bs guys. We have a lubberly lil shooting fest going on here so let's just enjoy the game.
 
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Kaylis Tzu
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Soulie This flamefest does not suit either RISE or THE RONIN. Both of our alliances; should and do know that we aint all that bad or all that good and flaming surely is not gonna make us look better.Soulie
Agreed... RISE has complete repect for N.O.R.A.D and the history they built. They hold a very repected place in the history of Eve.
The forces of RONIN claim that since they were member corps of this great alliance that they can use NORAD's reputaion and it's great history to somehow garner support from those that remember the real NORAD.
I fought along side many great NORAD pilots and those NORAD corps who left RISE and have maintained the great relationships we started have our respect too.
This conflict is between RISE and a handful of Ex-RISE corps (irregardless of previous affilation) who chose to leave the allaince and try to take by force the region they agreed would be claimed by RISE. They may say what they will about what RISE used to be, but they are not fighting RISE's history just as we are not fighting N.O.R.A.D.
RISE and RONIN are who they are today. Let's drop foolish attempts to bring up the past and finish this on the field of battle.
(btw Roland... good to see you. SG says hi) RISE Senior Diplomat
It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur |

Ban Tier
Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylis Tzu
This conflict is between RISE and a handful of Ex-RISE corps (irregardless of previous affilation) who chose to leave the allaince and try to take by force the region they agreed would be claimed by RISE. They may say what they will about what RISE used to be, but they are not fighting RISE's history just as we are not fighting N.O.R.A.D.
Kaylis I thought Vache would be the worst diplomat, but you even top it by being totally clueless. I have two links for you, so that you have an idea who was NORAD and who not:
Corp stats 05/2006
Corp stats 06/2006
You can move several month back and see NORADs historie.
And now check, what NORAD corps are left in RISE and what corps are shooting you. And pls take also into account the corps, who are "not allowed" to join R0NIN directly and still prefer to shoot at you and fly side by side with us.
So this conflict has become (most) xNORAD vs. (mostly) xFA - like it or not.
But why do you need a justification for shooting ? Just enjoy it. And pls inform yourself a bit more about the who is who in the community, before you make a to great fool out of yourself.
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LordXL
Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.11.06 22:29:00 -
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Quite simply CHON are and were NORAD.
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Kaylis Tzu
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.06 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: LordXL Quite simply CHON are and were NORAD.
Then why continue to cling to NORAD's reputation and history as an alliance if you can stand on your own. If CHON "are and were" NORAD then why keep invoking the historic NORAD in an attempt to claim legitimacy.
No body debates that you have good pilots and that you did a great job against Goon. It's not hard to rack up kb kills when you are fighting goon and raiding Syndicate every night. I'll go so far as to say that CHON was still in the top of the RISE kb's while we were in Cloud Ring. But... 60-80% of your kills were in Syndicate and/or not in RISE claimed space.
You guys keep touting your kb's, and those who don't actually look at the stats closely will give you some props. I will remain skeptical about any killboard comment you make and curious as to why you didn't post these 2 months...
NORAD PVP (September 06) I count 7 kills the whole month we were engaged with TOXIN and YW NORAD PVP (October 06) By my count only 26% of all RONIN's kills were against RISE member corps.
Trivia Question 1: In the month of October (in which RONIN began their conflict with RISE) how many noob corps are in the top 5 for most killed by the forces of RONIN? Trivia Question 2: Which RISE corps appear in the top 5 of most killed during the month of October?
Trivia Answer 1: 3 (Center for Advanced Studies 22%, Fedral Navy Accademy 15%, and State War Accademy 15%) Trivia Answer 2: Zero 
RISE Senior Diplomat
It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur |

Nalrath Tolahnia
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.11.07 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylis Tzu Random Banter of useless information
Whoever elected you as Senior Diplomat - needs to create an intelligence division, cause your horribly out of date or lacking intel on things.
The NORAD killboard your refering to in Sepember and October is not in anyway a true reflection of Ronin or the 'Ex-RISE' corps shooting RISE currently, CHON and co was mostly using it as a temp solution until a flashy looking killboard could be created for them as a group.
As for September - most of the corps were still a part of RISE and thus using the RISE killboard, since you finally got around to revoking my access 2-3 weeks ago you can be kind enough to go look up the data yourself, if you didnt know something so simple and intelligent as that - then resign and save people the trouble of putting you in your place, it requires effort i'd rather waste elsewhere.
so do us a favour 1: check your intel next time you start quoting stats 2: make the RISE killboard public - if i recall we did vote and approve that action in july or august, its now november (i know democracy is slow, but still). ------------------------------------------------
War is Hell but it is the price we pay for the freedom we so desperately need.
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Gius Adoma
Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gius Adoma on 07/11/2006 08:58:07 This is where you should be looking for R0NIN's kills: http://kb.eve-ronin.org/ = Times of Ancar =
< THE R0NIN >
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PreTender
Amarr Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.11.07 10:39:00 -
[234]
Your link is not working gius
Ronin killboard Chon Times of ancar Yakuza __________________________
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Lucius Ventrue
Minmatar Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.13 18:31:00 -
[235]
Wow lots of politics ...
At anyrate, new to the OR and this conflict all I can say is these encounters on the battlefield are great fun. Thank you on both sides of the conflict for giving me more than enough fun for my $14.95 a month! To think i was a empire ***** for 7 months before joining a 0.0 corp/alliance... pft..

Lucius Ventrue
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Durvaul
Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium
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Posted - 2006.11.13 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shivaja Lots Of Random Stuff
yah, umm, u dont own outer ring btw, u jus live there and no, i dun think u can be kicked from an npc region if ur smart enuff, if ti wasnt, ud be out mmkay?
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.13 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: LordXL Quite simply CHON are and were NORAD.
CHON were only allowed to stay in NORAD because they used to mine for BNC, otherwise we'd have kicked them long ago, Shiv doesn't know one end of a gun from the other to be honest.

P.S. It's still my region (regardless of what myggan and DG claim)
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.13 21:00:00 -
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i wonder how anarchy online who are currently strengthing their claim to ex goon space in syndicate will view this conflict up in OR - do AO and AE have an interest in outer ring or are they content to live in sydnicate until bob come to clense the region
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