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XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 20:40:57 I knew the BOB spin machine would start up soon, I guess facts will go out the door now . And here comes the bob + alts (how uber we really are) aka, BOB forum blobbing, err whoring, err, you get the point. so after the insults, the namecalling and a bunch of purely made up assumptions didnt help you throw your toys back in the sandbox and start to stomp out calling everyone who proofed you wrong "forum *****s and blobbers" ? Seems you lost that argument already before you made your first post if that was your plan. Huh? Nobody "proofed" me wrong. You and your friends want to spin facts and spread rumors, nothing more then that.
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:49:00 - [62] Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 20:49:05 Originally by: LUKEC I'm waiting just for you in gq2. Touch a nerve did I?
Slowboat Interspace Trade Constorium	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:49:00 - [63] Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 23/10/2006 20:44:17 Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 20:40:57 I knew the BOB spin machine would start up soon, I guess facts will go out the door now . And here comes the bob + alts (how uber we really are) aka, BOB forum blobbing, err whoring, err, you get the point. so after the insults, the namecalling and a bunch of poorly made up assumptions didnt cut it you throw your toys back in the sandbox and start to stomp out calling everyone who proofed you wrong "forum *****s and blobbers" ? Seems you lost that argument already before you made your first post if that was your plan. ROFL. What Proof??? Your opinions and assumptions and spin are hardly proof. Opinions are like a-holes.. everyone has one and they all stink.. in your case you need a good serious scrubbing I think.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:50:00 - [64] Originally by: XoPhyte Where did you see me criticize his combat stats. Please re-read and try to comprehend this time. I said he has a 7 / 1 kill ratio, so I don't understand why he continues to cry about his 1 loss. Maybe because he is smart enough to understand that corp vs. alliance or player vs. alliance killstats mean NOTHING at all. But well what do i expect from an alliance high command which thinks it would be reasonable for me to go into the shire solo, lose my ship(let's say a****abond) without killing anything and then add one fake titan killmail to both sides just to make my 0% efficiency look like 49.9999999%. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:51:00 - [65] Originally by: XoPhyte Originally by: Kcel Chim Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 20:40:57 I knew the BOB spin machine would start up soon, I guess facts will go out the door now . And here comes the bob + alts (how uber we really are) aka, BOB forum blobbing, err whoring, err, you get the point. so after the insults, the namecalling and a bunch of purely made up assumptions didnt help you throw your toys back in the sandbox and start to stomp out calling everyone who proofed you wrong "forum *****s and blobbers" ? Seems you lost that argument already before you made your first post if that was your plan. Huh? Nobody "proofed" me wrong. You and your friends want to spin facts and spread rumors, nothing more then that. What you call facts is for the rest of this world "your opinion". And if you call pointing out flaws in your argumentation "spreading rumors" especially if it involves uncovering balant lies and wild baseless accusations, then yes im guilty. However thats not what the rest of the world would call such an educated discussion / battle of wits....
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:52:00 - [66] Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 20:43:09 I knew the BOB spin machine would start up soon, I guess facts will go out the door now . And here comes the bob + alts (with the typing on one hand how uber they all are, and god knows what with the other). Yes, comparing my remarks about 1 ex-huzzah member indicates that all ex-huzzah members are bad. Sorry Bob and alts, not even you can spin that. I dont see you on the BoB killboard. Are you hiding or you do fight on an alt?
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:53:00 - [67] Edited by: LUKEC on 23/10/2006 20:54:25 Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 20:49:05 Originally by: LUKEC I'm waiting just for you in gq2. Touch a nerve did I? Huh? + post with your "combat main" (if such thing exists) so we can all see your "proofses" about how well you are doing
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:53:00 - [68] I fight with an alt. This is just my ceo / science char
Chrony Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:54:00 - [69] Well at least the forums arnt boring anymore. But the one thing that really made me smile was that I found CLS members npcing in southern Feythabolis during this so called "All Hands Call" from last weekend. Even McCreedy was down there, im wondering why he wasnt at the "frontline" in TBAG.
Daald Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:55:00 - [70] Originally by: Chrony Well at least the forums arnt boring anymore. But the one thing that really made me smile was that I found CLS members npcing in southern Feythabolis during this so called "All Hands Call" from last weekend. Even McCreedy was down there, im wondering why he wasnt at the "frontline" in TBAG. I'm getting a RAGING clue right now! ___________________________________________ Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. -Murphy
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:55:00 - [71] I'll put this back again since bob wants to hide the facts regarding 1 member that left with random posts (not quite sure why tbh) Oh though I rarely respond to forum posts, nor do I bother to read them much anymore due to the loss in brain cells from reading pages of absolute drivel with no real substance, I felt compelled to respond. I am the CEO of the corporation where Integral was a member (this is my main, and you can check the Corp. status for my name as the CEO for The Out Siders, as well validate that Integral was in fact a member of my corporation). Every corp. / alliance has weak members (Bob has them, just like everybody else). My thoughts where from the beginning is that the weak members would leave the corporation and ASCN, leaving only the strong members, and this in turn would help my corporation and the alliance become an even stronger alliance then we are today (DarwinÆs survival of the fittest mentality) I'll sum this up very easily. Integral lost 2 ships worth about 50 million while fighting for ascn. 1 enyo and 1 Taranis. Only 1 of these losses (the enyo) was to Bob in TCAG, the other was down in stain somewhere where he was probably running back to empire and got ganked on the way. He was able to participate in fleet ops which awarded him with 7 Bob kills in Bob space (TCAG). So quite simply the fact that Integeral is complaining that he lost 50 mil and now could not afford another ship is pretty laughable to be honest. If he could not afford another ship then he doesnÆt belong in my corporation or any 0.0 space in my opinion. And last, Integeral was in Huzzah federation before my corporation, where we see the same "oh no I got killed let me run and hide" mentality which caused an entire alliance to fold in 1 weekend. So in summary... Integral is complaining about logistics when he only lost 50 mil in assets (thatÆs about 2 hours of ratting). He talks about logistics problems even though he never ordered (nor flew) any battleships, and was only a low level newer member and therefore unaware of any logistics outputs or mineral supplies. He shows the same "I quit and I'll go hide in empire" mentality that was obviously prevalent in Huzzah, even though when he was fighting with us we were able to give him a 7 / 1 kill ratio (86%) against a pure PVP alliance like BOB. Integral was not kicked from the corporation / alliance, but in typical fashion decided to run and hide. My point is that Integral is probably where he belonged all along, in empire. So there it is, the facts (I know facts don't belong in these forums ). You can validate the kills / losses for integral on the ASCN killboards. You will also see that he has only 1 loss while in Huzzah and no kills So yes, the word bitter pretty much just sums it up. Thanks for your time. XoPhyte
Slowboat Interspace Trade Constorium	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:58:00 - [72] What I find funny is how the OP stopped posting once his ex-CEO posted the circumstances behind his leaving the alliance.... and BOB defending him. LOL. Pure propoganda gold man.
Waragha Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.23 20:58:00 - [73] Waaah waah waah, i was carebaring to my hearts content in a 0.0 alliance, but when they came under attack they wanted me to use some of the funds i'd gained there to protect them. ....... For god sakes! Originally by: Trepkos ... The only difference between GS and NPC's are that GS respawn quicker.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:01:00 - [74] Edited by: w0rmy on 23/10/2006 21:02:13 Op needs the whaaaambulance Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:03:00 - [75] Originally by: Slowboat What I find funny is how the OP stopped posting once his ex-CEO posted the circumstances behind his leaving the alliance.... and BOB defending him. LOL. Pure propoganda gold man. QFT Spin it any way you like, but sacrificing 2 ships for the cause is hardly something to whine about. If his "contribution" to the ASCN war effort over the past weeks was 7 "involved" and 2 losses (one in actual combat), he should have plenty of down time to pad his wallet. FREEE is Recruiting
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:03:00 - [76] Originally by: XoPhyte I'll put this back again since bob wants to hide the facts regarding 1 member that left with random posts (not quite sure why tbh) Oh though I rarely respond to forum posts, nor do I bother to read them much anymore due to the loss in brain cells from reading pages of absolute drivel with no real substance, I felt compelled to respond. I am the CEO of the corporation where Integral was a member (this is my main, and you can check the Corp. status for my name as the CEO for The Out Siders, as well validate that Integral was in fact a member of my corporation). Every corp. / alliance has weak members (Bob has them, just like everybody else). My thoughts where from the beginning is that the weak members would leave the corporation and ASCN, leaving only the strong members, and this in turn would help my corporation and the alliance become an even stronger alliance then we are today (DarwinÆs survival of the fittest mentality) I'll sum this up very easily. Integral lost 2 ships worth about 50 million while fighting for ascn. 1 enyo and 1 Taranis. Only 1 of these losses (the enyo) was to Bob in TCAG, the other was down in stain somewhere where he was probably running back to empire and got ganked on the way. He was able to participate in fleet ops which awarded him with 7 Bob kills in Bob space (TCAG). So quite simply the fact that Integeral is complaining that he lost 50 mil and now could not afford another ship is pretty laughable to be honest. If he could not afford another ship then he doesnÆt belong in my corporation or any 0.0 space in my opinion. And last, Integeral was in Huzzah federation before my corporation, where we see the same "oh no I got killed let me run and hide" mentality which caused an entire alliance to fold in 1 weekend. So in summary... Integral is complaining about logistics when he only lost 50 mil in assets (thatÆs about 2 hours of ratting). He talks about logistics problems even though he never ordered (nor flew) any battleships, and was only a low level newer member and therefore unaware of any logistics outputs or mineral supplies. He shows the same "I quit and I'll go hide in empire" mentality that was obviously prevalent in Huzzah, even though when he was fighting with us we were able to give him a 7 / 1 kill ratio (86%) against a pure PVP alliance like BOB. Integral was not kicked from the corporation / alliance, but in typical fashion decided to run and hide. My point is that Integral is probably where he belonged all along, in empire. So there it is, the facts (I know facts don't belong in these forums ). You can validate the kills / losses for integral on the ASCN killboards. You will also see that he has only 1 loss while in Huzzah and no kills So yes, the word bitter pretty much just sums it up. Thanks for your time. XoPhyte lol, did you run out of words, enough to start copy/pasting posts just one page back? that was too easy to spot. Try harder next time ------------------ Save Tranquility!
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:06:00 - [77] I never run out of words . Integral posted his dislike for our alliance. I responded with facts and my thoughts about his participation, Bob and alts spin away and try to bury with random garbage. Just trying not to derail the thread which is typical in these forums.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:08:00 - [78] XoPhyte, your attempts to discredit the OP are quite laughable. They scream "oh crap oh crap we have a ex-ASCN on the loose! Damage control! DAMAGE CONTROL!!" The OP doesn't strike me as bitter, more like disappointed and fed up. After all he decided to leave on his own accord. He's probably fed up with "HighCommand" telling him to do this and that, fed up with no support for his concerns and fed up with being lied to all the time. It's pretty simple; the OP tried to achive what ASCN HC wanted but failed to accomplish because your people failed him. He sees past the ASCN morale boosting blogs and sees the writing on the wall. Now that he is no longer in ASCN and is not being censored, he's attempting to bring out the truth and hold Cyvok and Mc Creddy accountable; while you're posting kill/death ratios trying to discredit him and his message. BRAVO! >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Sathrai Unlimited Blade Works	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:08:00 - [79] Originally by: Slowboat OH DB.. for shame. Your losing your touch. That is easily countered by the simple fact that the ones that joined ASCN ARE the fighters of Huzzah who didn't have that attitude. I think you need a refresher course at the Jedi Smack Academy. Actually, it was the guys that fought that were the ones who decided to kill Huzzah. As the ones who did the brunt of the fighting and the dying, we felt that we had that particular right. I know because I was there and participated in the Vent discussions about the entire thing. The leadership looked at the situation realistically, considered it effectively futile without considerable & sustained outside capital ship assistance, came to the conclusion that an existence entirely contingent upon the charity of others wasn't an existence worth living, and that was pretty much that. It's worth noting that just a few days before we decided to close up shop, Huzzah fielded one of its largest fleets ever - morale wasn't a problem; it was a pure, straight up lack of the necessary specialized materiel (read: dreadnaughts). It sounds like that ASCN person listened a bit too closely to the words of certain ex-Huzzah corps, cough cough.
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:13:00 - [80] Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 21:13:34 Originally by: HostageTaker More Bob drivel I know Bob doesn't like us posting facts, just doesn't help your cause does it? So what you are really saying is that the facts I posted discredit the OP and you don't like it?
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:15:00 - [81] Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 21:15:54 Originally by: Dr Einkeisel Am I missing somthing ? What facts It hurts to discuss facts doesn't it? It's ok, you'll get over it.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:15:00 - [82] Am I missing somthing ? What facts
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:16:00 - [83] Edited by: LUKEC on 23/10/2006 21:16:58 Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 21:13:34 Originally by: HostageTaker More Bob drivel http://www.eve-evol.com/draximus/ascn_whine.mp3 Just to spice soup.
Slowboat Interspace Trade Constorium	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:18:00 - [84] Edited by: Slowboat on 23/10/2006 21:18:46 Originally by: HostageTaker HostageTaker your attempts to SPIN the OP's Ex-CEO are quite laughable. They scream "oh crap oh crap we have an ASCN CEO posting facts! SPIN control! SPIN CONTROL!!" There. Fixed it for you.
Ghargon Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:19:00 - [85] As a relative newcomer to ASCN i feel that i can hopefully provide some facts that arnt dominated by the spin and propaganda that seems to be rife at the moment. Personally i only joined ASCN to shoot BoB .. why not? To the OP i'd have to say that from my personal experience ASCN has delt very well with regards to replacing ships that i have lost in combat and always within a few hours of me actually making the request. However from what i have read the OP's losses where two t2 frigates, these i am pretty sure are not covered by the alliance. But i fail to see why the OP would insist on flying ships that will not be replaced for him (if he is low on cash). So although i understand that you are ****ed off with ASCN i must say that you do seem to have dug your own grave with respect to your financial status. Good luck with your new corp. I never think of the future - It comes soon enough
XoPhyte Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:19:00 - [86] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 23/10/2006 21:16:58 Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 21:13:34 Originally by: HostageTaker More Bob drivel http://www.eve-evol.com/draximus/ascn_whine.mp3 Just to spice soup. Huh that is interesting. Not sure how that relates to this thread though? Might want to start another one with that.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:20:00 - [87] Originally by: XoPhyte Edited by: XoPhyte on 23/10/2006 21:13:34 Originally by: HostageTaker More Bob drivel I know Bob doesn't like us posting facts,... Are you kidding me?! Without ASCN posting facts, none of our lovely siggys would be possible. >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:20:00 - [88] Originally by: HostageTaker The OP doesn't strike me as bitter, more like disappointed and fed up. Of course it doesn't because it makes your enemies look bad. I bet if someone posted the same stuff but against BoB you guys would be all over it trying to flame the hell out of him and trying to make him look like an idiot. TBH that xophyte's post was rather well written and thought out considering what the usual responses are on this forum. In rust we trust!!!
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:26:00 - [89] I used to hold Band of Brothers members in high regard. After all this time, I still had a few friends in BoB. I've come to an epiphany after all the forum sillyness, being smacked in local every time I change systems, TS and Forum spying, shady offers and everything else of the last month. The gleam which shone on the Band of Brothers alliance to me is gone. It's been tarnished by the way you've all carried yourselves. I expected great fights, friendly banter and most of all, fun. What I've seen doesn't resemble that in the slightest. And Demonizing our leadership? If anything, I hold them in higher regard now than I did before this all started. Bottom line, how do you want to be remembered in Eve when this is all said and done? Hidden in this signature is a secret message. Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.23 21:28:00 - [90] Originally by: IntegralHellsing I left ascn because I couldnt be harsed dealing with a challenging situation and now I am venting some frustration on the eve-o forums hoping I can get myself a pat on the back. Boo-ooh. - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius

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