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Dracu1a Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.30 20:06:00 - [61] I really hope the market prices for the Ishtar and hacs in general go down. Would make it a lot easier on the wallet to fly. Sucks when i have to sit there in the station in my isthar telling myself its okay to undock and go pvp with it. "you can just get a new one. you can just get a new one. you can just get a new one......"
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:53:00 - [62] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: LUKEC It's not the pvp quality that controls price of hacs. Look at deimos price It's more... can ship be used for carebering or not. By that logic, Vagabonds are ships for Carebears? I can search to see if I still have the pic with a Vagabond doing a complex ... (no he didn't do it just for fun) On the topic, we all knew that the new BCs are made for ganking, what I didn't like though is that resistance bonus on the Drake ... it makes no sense. A bonus switch for the resistance to a missile flight time would be much better (yes, longer range on missiles but it can't tank like a mofo). _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.31 04:03:00 - [63] Originally by: Dracu1a I really hope the market prices for the Ishtar and hacs in general go down. Would make it a lot easier on the wallet to fly. Sucks when i have to sit there in the station in my isthar telling myself its okay to undock and go pvp with it. "you can just get a new one. you can just get a new one. you can just get a new one......" Myrmidon isn't going to decrease the price of the Ishtar. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Siakel	Posted - 2006.10.31 04:20:00 - [64] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: Dracu1a I really hope the market prices for the Ishtar and hacs in general go down. Would make it a lot easier on the wallet to fly. Sucks when i have to sit there in the station in my isthar telling myself its okay to undock and go pvp with it. "you can just get a new one. you can just get a new one. you can just get a new one......" Myrmidon isn't going to decrease the price of the Ishtar. Yeah. Maybe I'm missing something, but it really does seem to be the only Tier2 BC that doesn't really outclass its HAC counterpart in any way at all.
Witch Doctor Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.31 04:42:00 - [65] So all you guys who are convinced that the HAC market is going to drop are selling your HACs now, right? I mean, it would be silly to sit on them when you can buy them for what, 20% less in a few weeks? 30%? Sell now while the prices are high!
Xianthar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 04:45:00 - [66] Originally by: Spaced Skunk Originally by: Xianthar dun know why the hac market is still how it is. imo recons are better ships for the same size and command ships own hacs yet are still cheaper ? -xian Nighthawk - 250M Sleipnir - 185M (gone up 50M in 2 weeks, and still rising) Astarte - 190M (Gone up a lot, still rising) Absolution - 130M (Not gone up, good) The reason I am not training for a command ship anymore tbh it the rediculous t2 market prices. When the next patch comes out, hopefully it will bring the sliepnir down to around 120-30M, which I will pay, Muninn is going up (130M now), this will go down, simply because the hurricane will be better for artillery, while the muninn will do less damage it still gets more tracking and range. Vagabond still keeps its nice role, the 80%+ of stabbed up vagabond pilots will weep, but its still fast, agile and damaging. Vagas are too expensive these days and I will not be paying for another in the event I lose mine, desipe all the training time I used. The new battlecruisers are good, but HACs are still very tanked and do a lot of dps, while remaining a cruiser, so I cannot see them making HACs go really down in price. all i can say is stop buying stuff at market price, go make some friends, connections are everything in eve. -xian
Father Weebles Panzershrek Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.31 05:43:00 - [67] i wish i had tech2 bpo owners as friends old corpmate buys pilgrims for 30million from a friend :/ "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.31 06:42:00 - [68] Originally by: Witch Doctor So all you guys who are convinced that the HAC market is going to drop are selling your HACs now, right? I mean, it would be silly to sit on them when you can buy them for what, 20% less in a few weeks? 30%? Sell now while the prices are high! Done it already quite some time ago and I own atm about 8 CBCs and 2 Eagles (the Eagles won't go for selling as I expect to use them in the comming weeks) About "friends" and T2 products/BPOs : Trust is EVERYTHING If you have RL friends or people that you know that you can trust you can do an internal IPO. Collect all the money you can and buy a T2 BPO. The BPO will remain a corp asset that will continue to make money for you and your friends and it will help you raise money to get another good BPO. The problem is TRUST though. Can you trust those people enough to give them every single penny you have ? Can you trust them that they will produce the product, give back the money you invested or they will run away with the money and the BPO ? People today ingame don't understand that today's big houses of t2 products aren't the work of a single person but the work of a GROUP of people working together for a goal. Single persons that have T2 BPOs are the exception or a small minority, but even as a minority they sure as hell ain't stupid, they know what is going on the market and most important of all they have WORKED in order to get where they are, cause having the BPO is one thing, producing it is another thing ... the logistics of such a task are big especially if it is Ship building. _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:48:00 - [69] Originally by: Victor Valka I foresee a lot of pretty explosions. Wonder what color they will be for Drake... Depends on the missile-type they use to kill the close-range ships that try to kill them. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.11.01 01:22:00 - [70] HAM drake might not be a charger. instead it will own all close range ships. AC/blaster/pulse users will probally find out that drakes hurt alot. and its innate resists will probally let it pwn close range HACs.
Sir Bart	Posted - 2006.11.01 04:09:00 - [71] Originally by: Xianthar dun know why the hac market is still how it is. imo recons are better ships for the same size and command ships own hacs yet are still cheaper ? -xian Because recon / command are not yet controlled by a monopoly / oligopoli. When the guys who own the BPO's get their **** together (or the guys who won't co-operate are bought out), we're gonna get hurt on the prices of the newer t2 ships. The only thing that can save us is the invention system. Pray!
Kidd Billups Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.01 04:26:00 - [72] its pathetic
Shirley Koch	Posted - 2006.11.02 10:03:00 - [73] Originally by: Talon Calais Edited by: Talon Calais on 29/10/2006 16:04:43 In other news, the Nighthawk has hit 350 mil in Jita. Oh and Vultures are 90. i got one for 240 today :-D
Jazz Bo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.02 11:05:00 - [74] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 02/11/2006 11:06:33 Originally by: Scoundrelus Zealot does more damage then the Harbinger. Sacrilege tanks better then the Harbinger. No I think HACs are fine. That's a silly comparison. It's not like you can fly some kind of Transformer that turns into a Zealot when you need damage, and into a Sacrilege when you need to tank. Harbinger's versatility & cheap price should make it most people's number one choice in most situations. Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
Jazz Bo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.02 11:05:00 - [75] Edited by: Jazz Bo on 02/11/2006 11:05:14 Double post, apologies. Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
xenorx 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.02 20:38:00 - [76] When ever Kali is introduced we will see a correction in the T2 industry as a whole. Not just HAS prices. Sure, ppl will be more inclined to fly the new BC's for cost reasons but the real reason prices will drop some is going to be invention. If ppl can sacrifice a few BPC's for a low ME T2 BPC they will be money ahead and produce thier own HAS cheaper. Prices will not fall as far as a lot of ppl think though. There is going to be a tremendous increase in demand for T2 building materials thus those ppl moon mining and running reactions will be increasing prices. It still should be better than it is now. Unless of course you just paid 75 zillion isk on a T2 bpo. No one can hear you scream in space, so just shut up and die already.

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