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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2003.11.04 21:54:00 -
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Well, everyone who has never done an agent mission have +10 standing towards "good" factions
hmm i can't understand what you mean... agent mission lower some standings ? it seems a little absurd to me 
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.04 21:56:00 -
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yeah..
assuming they have the corporate stanings working you get the full potential range of cheap-expensive for any and all services.
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2003.11.04 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Rath Amon on 04/11/2003 22:07:08
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Exactly why should Stain be worried?
Anyone who has spent time killing Sansha Nation pirates in Stain probably has a neutral standing toward True Power.
I know I have.
Eh? I have -7.5 Sansha's Nation Faction rating and -7.5 True Power Corporation rating from defending my ship and from hunting and I haven't even hunted in over a week. I have positive True Creations Corporation rating from agent missions and they run the stations, but the Sansha's navy and gate guns will certainly try to destroy almost everyone who has hunted in Stain if they just turn these Faction ratings on.
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SUNchaser
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Posted - 2003.11.04 22:29:00 -
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I have a negative standing against just about every pirate faction and all I do is mine. I wish the developers would just get the bugs fixed and leave us the F$#K alone. This is susposed to be a "player created" universe not one driven here and there by heavy handed developers playing god.
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:18:00 -
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Well, everyone who has never done an agent mission have +10 standing towards "good" factions
hmm i can't understand what you mean... agent mission lower some standings ? it seems a little absurd to me
Because I had 10.0 standing towards 7 factions and several other at 6+ from killing NPCs.
Then the damn agent bug then set almost all of them back to 2.0 when I did a mission.
So many people like me that did not get hit by the agent bug has +10 towards most factions.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:35:00 -
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It would merely be a switch back to how it was originally. When TTi originally based at venal (Yes, before anyone was there), Gurista turrets fired on alot of TTi peeps because they were hunting Guristas. That feature got switched off, just because its unreasonable to have it on when player owned stations arent available. But when they are, it makes perfectly good sense that factions shoot you if you shoot them.
Unbelievable Luther, I think thats the first time in the game I have agreed with you!
Basically, yep, for x-npc(pirate) stations to lockout and fire on players in 0.0 there needs to be an alternative, and that alternative has to be player owned stations.
Forcing the alliances back into empire is rubbish.
And rubbish for immersion too.
Because lets face it. If the NVA (or SA or CA or FA or whoever) was locked out by a station (in paradigm) we would board the place, shoot the npc pirates ... and take it over.
We have all killed millions of NPC pirates ...
Any regional alliance has the power to oust these guys in paradigm.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/11/2003 23:50:37
"Because lets face it. If the NVA (or SA or CA or FA or whoever) was locked out by a station (in paradigm) we would board the place, shoot the npc pirates ... and take it over.
We have all killed millions of NPC pirates ...
Any regional alliance has the power to oust these guys in paradigm."
... And yet they just keep coming. :s
Easy to talk about shooting the poor NPCs when they appear in uncoordinated groups of six-dozen at time, max.
But picture all NPCs from all Venal asteroid belts together, swarming 'your' stations,
... tearing apart your battleships with sheer numbers,
... and always coming back for more, no matter how many of them you kill.
It's _Aliens_, revisited. Just a matter of short time before they win attrition war with any player alliance, if fought in such manner ;)
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SS Vegito
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:57:00 -
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Exactly why should Stain be worried?
Anyone who has spent time killing Sansha Nation pirates in Stain probably has a neutral standing toward True Power.
I know I have.
http://www.frothy.org/images/stands1.jpg
http://www.frothy.org/images/stands2.jpg
Thats because its all 0.0 Same reason i havent dropped at all for my Serpentis rating in Fountain.
So I fail to see how this affects us who only kill them in 0.0
*goes back to farming serps*
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.05 01:49:00 -
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Maybe now you guys will stop daunting us Players with uber battleships with 0.1 security standings who have been waiting for CCP to actually implement things that were foreseable. If you Leave because of this... Buh Bye... don't the the hangar door hit your toosh on the way out. Obvioulsy you don't know what a MMORPG is and change is not your forte.
Good riddance to the true Eve Carebear!
This is good news because now the Universe that is open ended has Consequence for actions rendered. Wow... could it be this is moving toward a more realistic sim... Wow imagine that.
Well Done CCP... Now what about Mob Refineries 
Please translate...I think he's not a native English speaker and I only got part of that.
PS If you think this means you will have safer access to 0.0 space you are wrong.
I am from Florida and am 100% USDA baby. English is my First language, thank you. Basically all over the forums you can read posts commenting on low security folk with Big Bad Battleships that don't NPC hunt as much or PvP. Well now you know why.. most of us take the game seriously and don't just jump in half-assed and blast everything we see.. NPC or Not.
We stick to Empire Space more often then not and are called Carebears ( I guess thats an MMORPG slang... this is my first MMORPG btw ) and are harshly degraded by PvPers. So I am stating that all you morons that are crying me a river about this welcomed,Logical move to make NPCs more a role in this game than they are now... are the True Carebears..... and aren't welcoming change that is needed. You have stuck yourself in a position that might render you useless. And now I have to wade thru a river of tears.
Let CCP make Eve into what they envisioned it. If you don't like it... by all means Leave... your tears won't be missed... Carebear.
First of all boy you are an odd little man aren't you? You seem to be really angry about something. By low security folk do you mean people with low sec ratings or people who live in low sec? Hmm you seem to think that EVE was meant to be NPC driven but CCP has been pretty clear about this being a player driven system haven't they? PvP players won't be useless they will just be more likely to turn to piracy and we all know how much you guys in Empire space like that. Of course you all saw how the game was going to develop and none of the scordite commandos are afraid of losing their bttleships. If things shape out like many of us fear you will like it least of all you just don't know it yet.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.11.05 02:15:00 -
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On the contrary you seem to be the one upset with the outside risk of losing control over the sovereign systems you cakewalked all over, how very furry of you.
Threatening massive piracy on a playerbase unable to sustain such a herd of instagrats will only have the pirates turn on eachother, it will work itself out naturally. Again, threats when faced with a challenge, furry.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.11.05 02:50:00 -
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It¦s more than 5 months after release until we get to see the first real content-patch. What makes you guys think that standing-based services will make it into the game before februrary 2004?
Relax... you¦ll have plenty of time to fix your standings.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.05 03:35:00 -
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On the contrary you seem to be the one upset with the outside risk of losing control over the sovereign systems you cakewalked all over, how very furry of you.
Threatening massive piracy on a playerbase unable to sustain such a herd of instagrats will only have the pirates turn on eachother, it will work itself out naturally. Again, threats when faced with a challenge, furry.
Hmmm "Threats"....no threat..if the alliance PvP option is taken away that will leave one other.
The pirates will turn on each other..you mean like now?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.05 06:09:00 -
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Faction ratings will prolly be reset when the faction system is implemented.
I hope not.
Security ratings haven't been nullified too after major changes.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.05 06:11:00 -
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Good God
So because im in curse, and hunt the angels around curse a lot, im not going to be able to dock anywhere near curse due to my low standings???
Hell i have VERY low standing to all the pirate NPC's as i hunt in all the areas for loot.
If one day i d/l a patch and find i can no longer dock at 0.0 stations, and my corp and alliance are in the same boat, you WILL see mass people leaving Eve.
I really hope im reading this wrong :(
Cry me a river. That's what exactly happened to a lot of player pirates too.
They had more risk, less reward and now it's time for you NPC chain spawning people to have your docking requests denied and full sentry guns blazing!
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Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.05 06:15:00 -
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Exactly why should Stain be worried?
Anyone who has spent time killing Sansha Nation pirates in Stain probably has a neutral standing toward True Power.
I know I have.
http://www.frothy.org/images/stands1.jpg
http://www.frothy.org/images/stands2.jpg
Exploiters.
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Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone.
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