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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.27 11:09:00 -
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Ok i think we need a sticky for the new CEO tooks esp the tracking one CEOs able to see where members last docked and also last login date (thats right inactives can be removed an an accurate detail on their last activitiy levels)
Also the remote corp hanger transfer (will allow security to be better) lower level members isntead of hanger access can just dock and CEO-directors can remotely transfer afte splitting stacks into numbers specific amounts of said item to the member - this will really remove a lot of corp theif activity.
Um alliance wallets ? or at least corp divisional wallets finally working rights where there in RMR but not hte actual wallet divisions (CEO full wallet) then give each director a devisional wallet with a set amount of ISK to spend etc. (further allow better control over corp)
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.27 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Nifel on 27/10/2006 11:35:34 pwned by the forums :(
"When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14) |
Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.27 11:39:00 -
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youve lost me now
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Mephysto
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Posted - 2006.10.27 11:43:00 -
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ok, have a sticky.
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Ysolde Xen
Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.10.27 12:03:00 -
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Are these all confirmed as being in Kali 1 or are they coming in later? Are they testable on SiSi right now?
I have *so* been waiting for better corp management tools for years and that giant sticky with all the ideas in was just begging to be introduced into the game.
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.10.27 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ysolde Xen Are these all confirmed as being in Kali 1 or are they coming in later? Are they testable on SiSi right now?
I have *so* been waiting for better corp management tools for years and that giant sticky with all the ideas in was just begging to be introduced into the game.
Those that are in testing will be in Kali 1 release. We have a long list of improvements which will show up at a later date, largely based suggestions from the corp management thread and suggestion from a the managers of the largest corporations.
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Ysolde Xen
Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.10.27 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Ysolde Xen Are these all confirmed as being in Kali 1 or are they coming in later? Are they testable on SiSi right now?
I have *so* been waiting for better corp management tools for years and that giant sticky with all the ideas in was just begging to be introduced into the game.
Those that are in testing will be in Kali 1 release. We have a long list of improvements which will show up at a later date, largely based suggestions from the corp management thread and suggestion from a the managers of the largest corporations.
Woo! May reconsider my 'insta-podding of anyone who promotes me ever again' rule...
Cheers for the info
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Hakhokwok
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:28:00 -
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CEO to become more than a dartboard! I love the idea
The tracking looks awesome, from day one of kali I took a grab and freaked out the entire corp. Unfortunatley Its quite hard to get all the corp on sisi at once to really test it and see if its as good as it looks. Has anyone seen it in action with more than 2 people in corp?
For those that aint seen it yet, I took this on the kali/sisi first day.
http://phaze9.moonmanstudio.com/evepics/kali/membertrack.png
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:29:00 -
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*sigh* my market alt... sorry.
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Johnathan Roark
Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.27 15:00:00 -
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I am very pleased with what I have seen so far. Also, we have more title templates to work with now, 12 total. I hope we can see more of that list knocked down as time progresses.
If you haven't seen the list, here it is.
Corporation Management Improvement |
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Karash Amerius
Amarr O.E.C
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Posted - 2006.10.27 16:01:00 -
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Is there anyway we can control container access in a corp hanger and not allow a member to take the container itself? I would like to give members access inside containers, but not be able to take the container from the corp hanger.
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Commander AllstarBu
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.27 16:54:00 -
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the divisional wallet for the corp/alliance wallet is a great idea.
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Marlenus
Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2006.10.27 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord Also the remote corp hanger transfer (will allow security to be better) lower level members isntead of hanger access can just dock and CEO-directors can remotely transfer afte splitting stacks into numbers specific amounts of said item to the member - this will really remove a lot of corp theif activity.
Now that we have a sticky topic for these issues, let me link to the topic where I've exhaustively detailed my testing of the new "deliver to" functionality.
Short version -- it's not currently working remotely. It looks like it's supposed to, so we're hoping this is a bug that gets fixed.
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.27 17:30:00 -
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Are they expanding the taxing for corporations/alliance thru more journals entry's?
Are there going to be taxation by Alliances to the members or something?
I am wondering if taxation is coming to contracts for corps, sales. buys?
Why would a corporation not have control of everything a member does on the market?
Why would an Alliance not want the get benifit from a member of a corp in the alliance?
We should have a larger more robust taxation tool. We should have the ability to tax higher upto 100%.
With more production, rigs, tech II invention Alliances and corps need to benifit from thier producers. Having the mod now is only evident if the producers is directly involved. Why not allow for data base searches and see how many research slots and what are in the slots from an Alliance and corps stance for each member.
Lets not stop at knowing where and what ship your in . Let the ceo manage his members and thier assests. YOu should allow the show info on the corp/alliance show what is turned on and what is off.
Originally by: Tuxford .....stuff... Btw I did mess a bit with tech 2 ammo, I'll post a bit about that later.
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Gina Barbagrigia
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Posted - 2006.10.27 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Harisdrop Lets not stop at knowing where and what ship your in . Let the ceo manage his members and thier assests.
You can not possibly be serious. There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. Err, read and write privilege.
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9
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Posted - 2006.10.27 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gina Barbagrigia
Originally by: Harisdrop Lets not stop at knowing where and what ship your in . Let the ceo manage his members and thier assests.
You can not possibly be serious. There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. Err, read and write privilege.
I agree with Gina here. As CEO of a bunch of no good losers (ill expect that "run for CEO" vote soon then) I would seriously be unimpressed with that kinda option even though it would be me in full control of it.
The new "deliver too" etc should more than suffice for shifting gear to them, the tracking is an extremely handy tool for keeping a subtle eye on the whereabouts etc and simple viewing of corp hangers is enough Big Brother if you suspect anyone of misdeeds corp side.
What we really need to solidify all these tools are accounts to work. Give me that and Ill never whine again that the CEO role in EVE is an underpowered pain in the ass.
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:26:00 -
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Why not let a corp CEO choose his style of play and allow game mechanics to be a part of it.
I have been in social corps. WHere everything was corp owned and supplied the program came from those that got and put nothing in.
I have been in capitalist corps. Where everyone was doing things for themseleves. The problem no one did anything for the corp
I have been in mixed corps. There is more than enough of he does this and thye dont do that to make your head spin.
If a CEO says we are doing everything for the corp then tax all market and research contract everything 100%. Watch what each member is doing. That corp will only get people that want to do it.
I say we give the tools to the CEO to allow for these things to occur. If the tool is turned off or not used then show that in the corp info.
Originally by: Tuxford .....stuff... Btw I did mess a bit with tech 2 ammo, I'll post a bit about that later.
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Hashi Lebwohl
Oberon Incorporated Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.27 21:42:00 -
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Can I ask if there is to be finally a wallet export function in Kali 1 (or if not wheher it is more than a gleam in a developer's eye for Kali 2) ?
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Franga
Caldari ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.28 02:23:00 -
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Harisdrop, myself and a few others in corp were discussing this on the corp TS and I can see some logic in the points that he makes.
For instance - it would create a much more tightly controlled corp with all like-minded members. The potential for a corp to all have the one vision rather then having a similar vision and mainly going about their own business is one that would be enticing to most CEO's. The productivity and overall efficiency of the corp could very well get a boost. Keeping it in there as an option is a possibility. It can or cannot be used - depending on the CEO. If you're fine with it, there is no problem. If you're not so keen, you'd leave.
Having said that - this is a game. I doubt most people would want to be a part of a 'tightly controlled' corporation. It's kind of like the 'dictatorial' option in creating an alliance. The option is there but how many do you see have actually opted for it? And if not too many people are opting for it - there won't be too many CEO's wanting to enable it.
I know BIG use the communist system fairly well (from second hand info) - but that's not an overly large corporation and I'm sure that even though they profess to run the corporation in that open and frank way - they would still have their own stockpiles of things. It's human nature. I know I would. I have been forgotten or left in the lurch by CEO's before that have said they will do something right away or will take care of an issue ASAP only to find that 2-3 weeks later the issue is still present or that what I had asked for is not completed - despite the original promise that it would be.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not bitter and nor is this an attack on our CEO (let's hope he doesn't think so - - he hasn't done this to me - I'm speaking of other corps) - CEO's play the game like the rest of us. Why should they devote their time wholly and soley to corp member's needs and wants? They shouldn't. But in return - why should I give everything that I make to my CEO? I shouldn't. Especially when there is a very good chance that my contribution and requests will be forgotten about in the course of time.
As was written in a previous post - there is a very profound difference bewtween kneeling and bending.
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Nate D
Priory of Saints
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Posted - 2006.10.28 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Franga Why should they devote their time wholly and soley to corp member's needs and wants?
Cause RL CEOs do!
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:04:00 -
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Miss overlord is a dev alt btw.
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St Dragon
Blood Association of Dragons
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Posted - 2006.10.29 10:31:00 -
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Can we ahve screenshots please showing all the features valid for a small 20 man [or woman] corp. -----------------------------------------------
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |
David Darkstar
Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 18:31:00 -
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Remove the damn 10% corp tax cap please. Totally useless and bothering as well.
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Johnathan Roark
Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.30 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: St Dragon Can we ahve screenshots please showing all the features valid for a small 20 man [or woman] corp.
These are all management tools, so they would still be valid for a small corp, you'll just have less of a need for them, but your still able to use them just the same as 300 member corps.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.30 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One Miss overlord is a dev alt btw.
slightly OT - you are incorrect
That said still no word on functioning devisional wallets at corp level yet.
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Edheler
Quintessential Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.30 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Edheler on 30/10/2006 19:49:30
Originally by: Franga It's kind of like the 'dictatorial' option in creating an alliance. The option is there but how many do you see have actually opted for it?
Actually, there isn't a checkbox for this option when creating an alliance. Continuum. petitioned for this to be set and was denied by CCP.
Edheler Quintessential CEO
P.S. CCP, please don't set that option on Continuum. now. That would just be irritating. ;-)
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
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Posted - 2006.10.30 23:58:00 -
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I'm sure some current alliances would be dictorial: YES if they could.
The lack of CEO tools is one of the biggest pet peeves I've had running a corp or alliance. There is simply not enough to cover all of the functions of a corp.
The title system itself is in need of lengthening. I'd say 20 title slots at least.
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Gina Barbagrigia
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Posted - 2006.10.31 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: Gina Barbagrigia on 31/10/2006 08:15:15
Originally by: Harisdrop stuff about various corp organizational types
That I would agree with. If and only if you couldn't change it after corp was created.
Role titles on player's Show info should only be displayed to corp members tbh.
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.31 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gina Barbagrigia Edited by: Gina Barbagrigia on 31/10/2006 08:15:15
Originally by: Harisdrop stuff about various corp organizational types
That I would agree with. If and only if you couldn't change it after corp was created.
Role titles on player's Show info should only be displayed to corp members tbh.
QFT
I think there has to be some strict rules applied. Your corp/alliance should be as it is when you join it. It should not be able to change.
Allow for corporations/Alliances to be sold.
There should be Alliance stock.
Originally by: Tuxford .....stuff... Btw I did mess a bit with tech 2 ammo, I'll post a bit about that later.
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Ragnar Anchor
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Posted - 2006.11.04 18:41:00 -
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I am all for more tracking enhancements for CEO's, while I understand that intrigue is part of the game, and a part that I know you CCP guys really like, I think that corp theft is WAY to easy. If people want to be corp theives then I think they should have to work at it as hard as someone works to be an uber industrialist. The way it works right now is just slanted way to much in favor of the scumbag that takes from everyone who worked so hard to amass what they amassed. More CEO controlls and more checks and balances for the win.
On the other hand...dictatorial control over corp members FTL. We all pay to play the game. I for one do not pay Thirty bucks a month so when I get home in the afternoon someone can tell me what to do just like the last eight hours at work I just got done with.
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