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Lady Deyth	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:10:00 - [1] These are the prices of these two field command ships in jita right now, does anybody else see a problem with this? Nighthawks was always one of the highest price selling field command ships, and now it's getting boosted even further with 25% faster rof. Nighthawk will be able to do up to 800 dps on anything between 0k to 80km range whereas the absolution will be lucky to get that kind of damage at 10km with pulse lasers and conflag. Yep, nighthawk really needed a beef. Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:13:00 - [2] Yes, Nighthawk needed a boost. Perhaps the Absolution needs one too -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Lady Deyth	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:14:00 - [3] Originally by: Dark Shikari Yes, Nighthawk needed a boost. Perhaps the Absolution needs one too Hahaha, good joke, boost an amarr ship, ROFL i cant stop laughing.
Lady Deyth	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:15:00 - [4] On a more serious note, give the absolution a 10% per level range bonus to medium energy turrets, then this ship might at least be slightly more playable.
Space Samuri	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:18:00 - [5] On top of the fact the Nighthawk deals more damage, can deal any damage type they want, and can get way better range and do the same amount of damage from any range, their missiles dont use cap. With the Absolution, as the range increases, the damage is less, they CANT hit from 80km range with pulses, they can only deal EM and Thermal besides their ub3r 25 drone bay, and MOST OF ALL, they have to waste a bonus and put a cap use bonus isntead of giving it something more useful! Seriously, just make lasers use less cap overall and take away the useless cap bonus and give it something more useful!!11!!
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:19:00 - [6] Edited by: Leilani Solaris on 28/10/2006 16:20:03 Originally by: Lady Deyth On a more serious note, give the absolution a 10% per level range bonus to medium energy turrets, then this ship might at least be slightly more playable. erm? Absolution is awesome as it is, no boost needed. Besides, what bonus would you change to replace with a range bonus? The Damage bonus or the RoF bonus? I think i'll stick with the way it is thanks. Originally by: Space Samuri On top of the fact the Nighthawk deals more damage, can deal any damage type they want, and can get way better range and do the same amount of damage from any range, their missiles dont use cap. With the Absolution, as the range increases, the damage is less, they CANT hit from 80km range with pulses, they can only deal EM and Thermal besides their ub3r 25 drone bay, and MOST OF ALL, they have to waste a bonus and put a cap use bonus isntead of giving it something more useful! Seriously, just make lasers use less cap overall and take away the useless cap bonus and give it something more useful!!11!! Shut up, seriously.
Blind Man Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:21:00 - [7] the price went up BECAUSE of the boost coming. It's great flying Amarr, ain't it?
Nir	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Lady Deyth Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense. It does actually, so what was the point of this thread again? Lets face it, someone has to be on top..
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:35:00 - [9] Did it ever occur to you that since at least 1/3 of the playerbase is caldari, and because it got boosted, that would encourage speculators to go in and buy up all stock on the markets of these ships to attempt to sell them at totally insane prices? In fact it's totally predicable. Look at other caldari stuff - hawk, invunerability field II, ballistic control unit II, etc - it's all way overpriced because of this effect. Come to think of it I should go and order 30 or so MFS II before the rokh pilots cause this to go insane as well...hmm... Raptor and Ares Fix
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:38:00 - [10] If you want to use Caldari equipment, pay the Caldari price. Or you can join EVE's other half, who make do with second best, but can afford to die twice on the same budget. Your pick.
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:46:00 - [11] Originally by: Cmdr Sy If you want to use Caldari equipment, pay the Caldari price. Or you can join EVE's other half, who make do with second best, but can afford to die twice on the same budget. Your pick. Second best? haha
000Hunter000 Gallente Leviathan Corperation LTD	Posted - 2006.10.28 16:50:00 - [12] OMG first people scream the NH sux0rs! now they whine that it pwnz0rs!!! OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!!!... Bah, i stuck with the NH when everybody and their mom were complaining at how bad it is, not it gets the boost it deserves and people allready scream 'OMG NERF!!!111ONE!!!' I deserve to be able to fly a nice uber pwn ship atleast for a little while for my loyalty. Banner will be updated shortly
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.28 17:58:00 - [13] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 28/10/2006 18:00:18 Originally by: Lady Deyth These are the prices of these two field command ships in jita right now, does anybody else see a problem with this? Nighthawks was always one of the highest price selling field command ships, and now it's getting boosted even further with 25% faster rof. Nighthawk will be able to do up to 800 dps on anything between 0k to 80km range whereas the absolution will be lucky to get that kind of damage at 10km with pulse lasers and conflag. Yep, nighthawk really needed a beef. Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense. What NH setup is going to do 800 DPS out to 80km? I'd like to see a range bonus, since Caldari seem to favor range, but they'd likely drop the kinetic dmg bonus for it, because dropping the other somewhat useless precision bonus would give it 4 uber bonuses. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
scabbsssjr Gallente The Afterlife	Posted - 2006.10.28 18:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Lady Deyth These are the prices of these two field command ships in jita right now, does anybody else see a problem with this? Nighthawks was always one of the highest price selling field command ships, and now it's getting boosted even further with 25% faster rof. Nighthawk will be able to do up to 800 dps on anything between 0k to 80km range whereas the absolution will be lucky to get that kind of damage at 10km with pulse lasers and conflag. Yep, nighthawk really needed a beef. Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense. Did you know? That this game has more to it than dealing extremely high dps? I figured you didn't. The tank on an absolution can be godly if someone who knows what they are doing kits it. I fear an absolution over a nighthawk just for that reason. If you can tank longer and better than your enemy and deal about 400dps, you will probally win. Would it make you feel better if they jacked up the prices on the absolution? I am sure you can talk the producers into doing that.
Leilani Solaris Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.28 19:10:00 - [15] Originally by: scabbsssjr Originally by: Lady Deyth These are the prices of these two field command ships in jita right now, does anybody else see a problem with this? Nighthawks was always one of the highest price selling field command ships, and now it's getting boosted even further with 25% faster rof. Nighthawk will be able to do up to 800 dps on anything between 0k to 80km range whereas the absolution will be lucky to get that kind of damage at 10km with pulse lasers and conflag. Yep, nighthawk really needed a beef. Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense. Did you know? That this game has more to it than dealing extremely high dps? I figured you didn't. The tank on an absolution can be godly if someone who knows what they are doing kits it. I fear an absolution over a nighthawk just for that reason. If you can tank longer and better than your enemy and deal about 400dps, you will probally win. Would it make you feel better if they jacked up the prices on the absolution? I am sure you can talk the producers into doing that. I do nearly 700 dps and have a dual rep cap injected tank on my absolution with over 80% resistances on all armour. Don't know how anyone can say the absolution needs a boost...
Illistar DeathWing	Posted - 2006.10.28 19:13:00 - [16] You could get out of your region and check others?, there's one in lonetrek for like 210
2SecondsTilMidnight	Posted - 2006.10.28 19:50:00 - [17] Um... stfu? NH is still the lowest dps ship of the four. If you don't understand why the price jumped so high for the nighthawk then please take an intro lvl of econ class, even that low of lvl should give you the answer. Reading all these posts about how caldari's insert any ship here is overpowered is getting pretty funny.
Bob Niac Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.28 20:57:00 - [18] well uh.. you just have to know where to go
scabbsssjr Gallente The Afterlife	Posted - 2006.10.28 22:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Leilani Solaris Originally by: scabbsssjr Originally by: Lady Deyth These are the prices of these two field command ships in jita right now, does anybody else see a problem with this? Nighthawks was always one of the highest price selling field command ships, and now it's getting boosted even further with 25% faster rof. Nighthawk will be able to do up to 800 dps on anything between 0k to 80km range whereas the absolution will be lucky to get that kind of damage at 10km with pulse lasers and conflag. Yep, nighthawk really needed a beef. Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense. Did you know? That this game has more to it than dealing extremely high dps? I figured you didn't. The tank on an absolution can be godly if someone who knows what they are doing kits it. I fear an absolution over a nighthawk just for that reason. If you can tank longer and better than your enemy and deal about 400dps, you will probally win. Would it make you feel better if they jacked up the prices on the absolution? I am sure you can talk the producers into doing that. I do nearly 700 dps and have a dual rep cap injected tank on my absolution with over 80% resistances on all armour. Don't know how anyone can say the absolution needs a boost... Thank you for backing me up. The 400 dps is from my POS gunnery skills, missiles :). These nerf caldari threads are getting old, FAST, oh wait they are old. These noobs who post em see most ppl fly caldari and the fact caldari is easier to train for and can use any ammo makes em unfair. IT DOESN'T, we can't shoot two or even three damage from the same round. Can we scramble and not lose part of our tank? No. Because of you noobs an entire ship type is being taken down several pegs. The jav raven. The thing does have a bit of an unbalance, okay not the end of the world and its not the I WIN BUTTON, you noobs claim it is. ITS NOT, its t2, of course it will be powerfull, and not everything is fair. Now ccp is nerfin to the point of a joke. Its not even worth the training time now.
Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.28 23:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Leilani Solaris I do nearly 700 dps and have a dual rep cap injected tank on my absolution with over 80% resistances on all armour. Don't know how anyone can say the absolution needs a boost... It's because of all the Gallente drugs they're taking. "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"
Xinfinity	Posted - 2006.10.29 00:01:00 - [21] flight time
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.29 00:23:00 - [22] you know, if you complain about the NH, then why don't you start gathering isk to get a drake bpo? bit less firepower than NH, and less tank for like 1/5th of the price. and it's fully insurable. ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.29 01:06:00 - [23] Edited by: dalman on 29/10/2006 01:17:37 *sigh* When will ppl understand that price on modules has very little to do with how useful they are in PvP? The demand curve setting the price on most items where the supply curve is limited, is mostly made up of ppl running agent missions. Due to the nature of missiles and NPCs not warping out, missiles is the prefered weapon of the agent runner. Hence there's a big demand for everything related to this. Best example of this is the recon cruisers. They're awesome ships. But not for mission running. And so the price is "low". Or take a look at Dread Guristas Cruise Missile Launcher. ~230M \o/ Have you ever heard of anyone in EVE using this to PvP? Would you use this module instead of a T2 cruise launcher in PvP even if the price of them were the same? This price is completely set by the hoards of mission runners in ravens. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.10.29 01:34:00 - [24] Edited by: OrangeAfroMan on 29/10/2006 01:43:26 Originally by: Lady Deyth These are the prices of these two field command ships in jita right now, does anybody else see a problem with this? Nighthawks was always one of the highest price selling field command ships, and now it's getting boosted even further with 25% faster rof. Nighthawk will be able to do up to 800 dps on anything between 0k to 80km range whereas the absolution will be lucky to get that kind of damage at 10km with pulse lasers and conflag. Yep, nighthawk really needed a beef. Ah wait, they are caldari, of course, now it makes sense. Moved from Eve General Discussion -Eldo Hm, well as far as your opinion on the Absolution goes.. I think you are highly undersetimating it. My alliance CEO flys both Absolutions and Astartes, and MUCH prefers the Absolution, he says it does better damage (even at point blank) and tanks MUCH better at the same time; example, (and I have seen this) he can perma tank sentries while maintaining 80% cap while instapopping pretty much anything I've ever seen him attack. (PS I do have video if you would like.) Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.10.29 01:55:00 - [25] Edited by: Aramendel on 29/10/2006 02:01:35 Originally by: scabbsssjr ...The tank on an absolution can be godly if someone who knows what they are doing kits it. I fear an absolution over a nighthawk just for that reason. If you can tank longer and better than your enemy and deal about 400dps, you will probally win.... Considering that both ships get the resistance bonus & have the same caprecharge rate, that the Abso needs unlike the NH cap to fire it's weapons & that a large SB + boost amp + lvl 3 in the shield comp skill regenerates more hp/sec for less cap/hp than 2 mar2 with rep systems 5 I find it kinda unlikely that the NH has a worse tank than the abso. Of cource, the abso has 7 slots to tank with and the NH only 5. But it will also need to fill 2 of them with a CPR to counter the capdrain of the lasers.
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.29 02:03:00 - [26] The NH has a better average tank than an Abs. But it has an EM weakness to exploit. (omg, it so sucks that lasers do em damage whine whine whine ) As I said above, the price on the nighthawk is set by mission runners. Price has nothing to do with how useful they are in PvP. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.29 02:16:00 - [27] Edited by: Ogdru Jahad on 29/10/2006 02:21:06 why is it a complete f**tard has to write crap liek this? I will soon be in an absolution. I always have prefered amarr t2 ships over anything else. nothing wrong with the absolution if you trained up the right skills. get a life and stop being a troll. -
Dahak2150	Posted - 2006.10.29 03:26:00 - [28] Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Edited by: OrangeAfroMan on 29/10/2006 01:46:55 Hm, well as far as your opinion on the Absolution goes.. I think you are highly underestimating it. My alliance CEO flys both Absolutions and Astartes, and MUCH prefers the Absolution, he says it does better damage (even at point blank) and tanks MUCH better at the same time; example, (and I have seen this) he can perma tank sentries while maintaining 80% cap while instapopping pretty much anything I've ever seen him attack. (PS I do have video if you would like.) Not doubting anything, but I really like Amarr vids. Could we see it? ---------- My sig is boring.
OrangeAfroMan Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.10.29 03:59:00 - [29] Originally by: Dahak2150 Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Edited by: OrangeAfroMan on 29/10/2006 01:46:55 Hm, well as far as your opinion on the Absolution goes.. I think you are highly underestimating it. My alliance CEO flys both Absolutions and Astartes, and MUCH prefers the Absolution, he says it does better damage (even at point blank) and tanks MUCH better at the same time; example, (and I have seen this) he can perma tank sentries while maintaining 80% cap while instapopping pretty much anything I've ever seen him attack. (PS I do have video if you would like.) Not doubting anything, but I really like Amarr vids. Could we see it? This is just a quick kill, kinda funny, I warp in on the Caracal in my wolf, barely doing damage... then the Absolution warps in. ----Will post the link once I compress it, for 30 seconds of footage 344mb seems a bit large. Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.29 04:31:00 - [30] Originally by: dalman Edited by: dalman on 29/10/2006 01:17:37 *sigh* Or take a look at Dread Guristas Cruise Missile Launcher. ~230M \o/ Have you ever heard of anyone in EVE using this to PvP? Would you use this module instead of a T2 cruise launcher in PvP even if the price of them were the same? This price is completely set by the hoards of mission runners in ravens. Yes... RISK guy named Logrus(& his alts) tended to drop dg cruise missile launchers, usually in packs of 6(depending how many died in process). But then again he's filthy rich... About that horde in ravens... it's funny how entire 3 races maybe have 1 or 2 ships that can come close to lvl4 w***ing speed(absolution / sleipnir maybe ... astarte&eos certainly can't compete with raven). Remove citadel torpedo flashes!

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