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Adam C
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:05:00 -
[91]
well played on those southern folk
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:17:00 -
[92]
I think the logic of ASCN's assaults on Fountain & Delve makes sense on paper. Remove the satailite alliances of BOB with the intention of severing the isk & material supply that they supposedly give.
The only problem with this plan is that for it to work, they actually have to do enough damage to BOB for them to need these supplies. Not to mention that it seems after the initial success they had in Fountain its begun to fall apart for them.
I must say however that given the appauling losses they have suffered. Im impressed that ASCN have been able to continue the fight, even if they have adopted more isk efficient tactics & ships. After all, why waste 100mill per bs on a sniping fleet battle your bound to lose, when you can use a fleet of expendable ships & at least hope to inflict some damage.
It will be interesting to see what ASCN & indeed BOB do next. Personally I hope ASCN end their needless harassment of BOB allies & focus on BOB assets in PS & their bases in PB. BOB i wonder whether theyll move into other ASCN regions or sit back & invite ASCN to rush back into PS where theyll be ground to dust as happened with ASCN's assault on TPAR &...that other system beginning with T .
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:24:00 -
[93]
... as long as ASCN fail to win any decisive fleet battles against BoB fleets only the blatantly obvious will happen...
You cannot hope to win a war without ever defeating the enemy on the battlefield.
Its simply not possible... whichever way you look at it.
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:32:00 -
[94]
Am I the only one to notice that:
ASCN Fights they get flamed because they lose. (they are still fighting aren't they?)
ASCN tried to bring the fight to BOB (Which nobody else has ever had the balls to do or even try) they get flamed because it didn't work.
ASCN plays defensively and doesn't jump in on BOB gate camps they get flamed.
ASCN jumps in and tries to break any BOB gate camp they get flamed.
In fact I can count on 1 hand the number of times BOB pilots have said "good try" on these boards since this debacle started and I'm sure those BOB members were told to STFU on the boards.
It's taken BOB 4 weeks to get paragon soul. Of course they can claim it is their timeline they NEVER claimed any timelines when they started.
What other alliance has stood up to BOB's concentrated efforts this long?
NONE.
So, to all the various and sundry peeps out there tht say they could do so much better. Why don't YOU try eh? Until then anything you say is just so much BS.
Props to ASCN for not rolling over and dying. It doesn't matter the number of ships you've lost at least your not pulling a Tribal Souls.
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Eskalin
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:32:00 -
[95]
it's nice to be home
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:43:00 -
[96]
Hmmm, slowest Molle thread ever?
And I agree with Nez's last post.
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Kaosaur
Dark Nebula Gallente Division Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:45:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Slowboat
What other alliance has stood up to BOB's concentrated efforts this long?
NONE.
It only makes sense that they take this long.
ASCN is the biggest alliance in the game, with nearly 5000 members. And BoB is having fun...maybe they want to draw it out rather than spill their load all in one go.
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Bizarre
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:45:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Slowboat Am I the only one to notice that:
ASCN Fights they get flamed because they lose. (they are still fighting aren't they?)
ASCN tried to bring the fight to BOB (Which nobody else has ever had the balls to do or even try) they get flamed because it didn't work.
ASCN plays defensively and doesn't jump in on BOB gate camps they get flamed.
ASCN jumps in and tries to break any BOB gate camp they get flamed.
In fact I can count on 1 hand the number of times BOB pilots have said "good try" on these boards since this debacle started and I'm sure those BOB members were told to STFU on the boards.
It's taken BOB 4 weeks to get paragon soul. Of course they can claim it is their timeline they NEVER claimed any timelines when they started.
What other alliance has stood up to BOB's concentrated efforts this long?
NONE.
So, to all the various and sundry peeps out there tht say they could do so much better. Why don't YOU try eh? Until then anything you say is just so much BS.
Props to ASCN for not rolling over and dying. It doesn't matter the number of ships you've lost at least your not pulling a Tribal Souls.
Yes ASCN alt, you are correct! --------------------
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EndersGame
Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:51:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Slowboat It's taken BOB 4 weeks to get paragon soul. Of course they can claim it is their timeline they NEVER claimed any timelines when they started.
What other alliance has stood up to BOB's concentrated efforts this long?
NONE.
I just love people that come on these boards thinking that they know all of EvE's history and spout things like they are fact.
I got 1 word for you that is "FIX" they stood up to 3 months of fighting and look what happened to them??? They for all in tense and purposes won.... FIX were excellent oponents.. they were respectfull.. they enjoyed the good fight! Hell a lot of them will tell you that when they lost there 40 billion EGG that went poof they had FUN! They lost there EGG and you know what there reaction was? "Damn! that was good fun!" after BoB saw that.. after we kept fighting people like FIX.. that were just DAMN COOL.. awesome people! We couldnt shoot them anymore! FIX were the only enemies that we actually formed a shared channel with to shoot the crap.. and congradjulate each other on fights.. and then we formed up to attack the DEV titans when there was an event.. and I remember still to this day after that event was over and the BoB ceo's got together and asked us do we set these guys back to red? And everyone said "No..." we agreed that there were other people in the world of EvE that deserved to die.. and that FIX had fought for there right to be in 0.0 we frankly saw our younger selves in FIX and so in my eyes they WON....
So no! ASCN has not stood up to what FIX did.. hell ASCN has yet to even see all of BoB's forces against them.
Another thing the great northern war was longer then 4 weeks.. as arrogant as G and PA were, they put up a long fight as well. So with your comment has any other alliance put up more than 4 weeks of fighting? YES... and 1 of them earned our respect!
As to your other comments about why hasnt BoB said good fight etc.. Well your talking about an enemy that petetions us for "blocking" them or for language on local.. the ammount we get petetioned each day for little things is pretty high. Your also talking about a leader that lies to there membership about that status of the war.. and how they are doing.
Learn by FIX's example.. at the end of the day we are all people.. we are a Band of Brothers.. and if you treat us with honor we treat you with honor..
At the end of the day EvE is a game.. when people loose sight of it, then you reap what you sowe.
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Manfred Sideous
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:06:00 -
[100]
Originally by: EndersGame
Originally by: Slowboat It's taken BOB 4 weeks to get paragon soul. Of course they can claim it is their timeline they NEVER claimed any timelines when they started.
What other alliance has stood up to BOB's concentrated efforts this long?
NONE.
I just love people that come on these boards thinking that they know all of EvE's history and spout things like they are fact.
I got 1 word for you that is "FIX" they stood up to 3 months of fighting and look what happened to them??? They for all in tense and purposes won.... FIX were excellent oponents.. they were respectfull.. they enjoyed the good fight! Hell a lot of them will tell you that when they lost there 40 billion EGG that went poof they had FUN! They lost there EGG and you know what there reaction was? "Damn! that was good fun!" after BoB saw that.. after we kept fighting people like FIX.. that were just DAMN COOL.. awesome people! We couldnt shoot them anymore! FIX were the only enemies that we actually formed a shared channel with to shoot the crap.. and congradjulate each other on fights.. and then we formed up to attack the DEV titans when there was an event.. and I remember still to this day after that event was over and the BoB ceo's got together and asked us do we set these guys back to red? And everyone said "No..." we agreed that there were other people in the world of EvE that deserved to die.. and that FIX had fought for there right to be in 0.0 we frankly saw our younger selves in FIX and so in my eyes they WON....
So no! ASCN has not stood up to what FIX did.. hell ASCN has yet to even see all of BoB's forces against them.
Another thing the great northern war was longer then 4 weeks.. as arrogant as G and PA were, they put up a long fight as well. So with your comment has any other alliance put up more than 4 weeks of fighting? YES... and 1 of them earned our respect!
As to your other comments about why hasnt BoB said good fight etc.. Well your talking about an enemy that petetions us for "blocking" them or for language on local.. the ammount we get petetioned each day for little things is pretty high. Your also talking about a leader that lies to there membership about that status of the war.. and how they are doing.
Learn by FIX's example.. at the end of the day we are all people.. we are a Band of Brothers.. and if you treat us with honor we treat you with honor..
At the end of the day EvE is a game.. when people loose sight of it, then you reap what you sowe.
/Signed
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Report
Amarr The New Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:07:00 -
[101]
Probably a good time for ASCN to sell that titan and hire MC...
lol
Just out of interest are BOB officially at ware with AXE too and will they be taking the strip bar?
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Tasha Feza'Cuiri
Caldarians Pride THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:07:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche I think the logic of ASCN's assaults on Fountain & Delve makes sense on paper. Remove the satailite alliances of BOB with the intention of severing the isk & material supply that they supposedly give....
When will people learn that neither Horde, nor Xelas pay for living in Fountain? The only ISK we pay to BoB is by using their outposts. They even buy ships from us when they fight in Fountain. And for the rest of time... you really think BoB would need the support of us? ;)
Think about that... attacking Fountain lead to nothing especially with attacking a Xs outpost and not even a BoB outpost. The other way round: why should BoB not be able to send defense without weakening their lines if ASCN would be able to send an attackforce without weakening their's? Keep the fight going ppl, I really like reading forums each day about what's going on. Respect to everyone involved to the battles in PS.
Do not call up what you cannot put down.
Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates |
TheDeathStar
The Flying Dutchmen
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:11:00 -
[103]
Edited by: TheDeathStar on 29/10/2006 20:14:23 Ah SirMolle do you believe this crap you posted yourselve? Have you taken all stations in paragorn Soul? Awnser = no move along pls and come back when you really have some news.
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:21:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Slowboat on 29/10/2006 20:23:44
Originally by: EndersGame
I just love people that come on these boards thinking that they know all of EvE's history and spout things like they are fact.
I got 1 word for you that is "FIX" they stood up to 3 months of fighting and look what happened to them??? They for all in tense and purposes won.... FIX were excellent oponents.. they were respectfull.. they enjoyed the good fight! Hell a lot of them will tell you that when they lost there 40 billion EGG that went poof they had FUN! They lost there EGG and you know what there reaction was? "Damn! that was good fun!" after BoB saw that.. after we kept fighting people like FIX.. that were just DAMN COOL.. awesome people! We couldnt shoot them anymore! FIX were the only enemies that we actually formed a shared channel with to shoot the crap.. and congradjulate each other on fights.. and then we formed up to attack the DEV titans when there was an event.. and I remember still to this day after that event was over and the BoB ceo's got together and asked us do we set these guys back to red? And everyone said "No..." we agreed that there were other people in the world of EvE that deserved to die.. and that FIX had fought for there right to be in 0.0 we frankly saw our younger selves in FIX and so in my eyes they WON....
So no! ASCN has not stood up to what FIX did.. hell ASCN has yet to even see all of BoB's forces against them.
Another thing the great northern war was longer then 4 weeks.. as arrogant as G and PA were, they put up a long fight as well. So with your comment has any other alliance put up more than 4 weeks of fighting? YES... and 1 of them earned our respect!
As to your other comments about why hasnt BoB said good fight etc.. Well your talking about an enemy that petetions us for "blocking" them or for language on local.. the ammount we get petetioned each day for little things is pretty high. Your also talking about a leader that lies to there membership about that status of the war.. and how they are doing.
Learn by FIX's example.. at the end of the day we are all people.. we are a Band of Brothers.. and if you treat us with honor we treat you with honor..
At the end of the day EvE is a game.. when people loose sight of it, then you reap what you sowe.
BOB took a couple stations. Well done. But the war isn't over yet is it? Has ASCN come out and said "We give up, enjoy Paragon soul"?
Not to diminish how hard FIX fought for their space but I don't believe it was 3 months of getting all of BOBs undivided attention. If Memory serves most of their fighting was against the coalition wasn't it? And if memory serves wasn't that called the great BOB easter egg hunt? And didn't You also pay a visit to ASCN during that and didn't you guys have some good smack free fights that weekend? I believe so.. from what I remember it was 3 to 4 engagements that weekend. Are you saying ASCN insulted you guys after that or during it?
As for ASCN not having seen all of your forces... whatever.
And you know.. I agree petitioning for anything that isn't REAL exploits is BS... However, I wasn't just targetting BOB with what I said. I'm talking about all the alliances not actually IN this war critisizing how ASCN is doing.
They all talk really big about how they would do in comparison or how ASCN should be doing this or doing that.
One more point. Is ASCN fighting or not? Isn't that suposedly what you guys want? Fights? Or is it you just want people to bend over and say "You know what? Your right. BOB is uber l33t and we bow down to your greatness"?
And take your own advice. At the end of the day EVE is a game. Why don't you try NOT insulting the people... that's right PEOPLE in ASCN and see if you guys get a bit of respect back. You say you don't like to be insults.. well NOBODY does so apply your own words to yourselves, including your leadership, and maybe it will ALL stop.
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CitzNo 097864
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:24:00 -
[105]
SirMolle you're a stupid ****head and nobody likes your "spooky" dramatic posts get out of EVE
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:37:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/10/2006 20:45:48
Quote:
Not to diminish how hard FIX fought for their space but I don't believe it was 3 months of getting all of BOBs undivided attention. If Memory serves most of their fighting was against the coalition wasn't it?
I'm afraid your timeline is all wrong...
let me put it right for you..
TIMELINE [relevant to this discussion]
- CA implodes after SA perform some social engineering and SA + ATUK + Xetic whole load of other entities apply a lot of military pressure.
- SA rebrands itself as SE
- Shinra on SE's bequest descend first on Querious (they retreat) and then move onto decimate Period Basis League (FA puppet government in Period Basis)
- Atuk initiates operation Goatsie (I think I got that right..) and start attacking FA.
- FIX run into Atuk in the A2- pipe and start fighting.. SE as allies decide this is sufficient as a good enough reason to declare war on FIX.
- BoB turn up on the scene and this is where they make their first move on the south ... they are allied with SE.
- FIX ends up fighting SE, BoB and Atuk at the same time, however BoB and Atuk start changing their target towards FA after a few weeks.
- SE withdraws from the war after suffering countless defeats on the battlefield against FIX.
- Atuk and BoB concentrate on FA and also keep FIX very busy so that they can setup camp in PB and Delve, everytime BoB wants to move to PB or Delve through A2-V27 they run into a FIX fleet.
- FIX and BoB continue fighting for about 3 - 4 months nonstop, eventually leading to a healthy respect which leads to an eventual cease in hostilities.
.... k we can stop here...
NOTE : The Coalition war hasn't happened yet, that happens a month or so after BoB and FIX sign a NAP.
Wether BoB meant to destroy FIX or not is debatable.. personally I think they thought FIX was a worthy oponent and were more interested in beating up FA.
However, for about 3 months FIX and BoB fought like clockwork every day at around 7pm (GMT) a 70-80 man BoB fleet would roll into Querious and we would fight them sometimes they won, sometimes we won.
This went on for months everyday without fail.
Draw your own conclusions....
[edit:typo]
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Bizarre
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:38:00 -
[107]
Slowboat, just post on your main ASCN character. It's getting silly now. --------------------
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:47:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Slowboat on 29/10/2006 20:49:26
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/10/2006 20:42:14
Quote:
Not to diminish how hard FIX fought for their space but I don't believe it was 3 months of getting all of BOBs undivided attention. If Memory serves most of their fighting was against the coalition wasn't it?
I'm afraid your timeline is all wrong...
let me put it right for you..
TIMELINE [relevant to this discussion]
- CA implodes after SA perform some social engineering and SA + ATUK + Xetic whole load of other entities apply a lot of military pressure.
- SA rebrands itself as SE
- Shinra on SE's bequest descend first on Querious (they retreat) and then move onto decimate Period Basis League (FA puppet government in Period Basis)
- Atuk initiates operation Goatsie (I think I got that right..) and start attacking FA.
- FIX run into Atuk in the A2- pipe and start fighting.. SE as allies decide this is sufficient as a good enough reason to declare war on FIX.
- BoB turn up on the scene and this is where they make their first move on the south ... they are allied with SE.
- FIX ends up fighting SE, BoB and Atuk at the same time, however BoB and Atuk start changing their target towards FA after a few weeks.
- SE withdraws from the war after suffering countless defeats on the battlefield against FIX.
- Atuk and BoB concentrate on FA and also keep FIX very busy so that they can setup camp in PB and Delve, everytime BoB wants to move to PB or Delve through A2-V27 they run into a FIX fleet.
- FIX and BoB continue fighting for about 3 - 4 months nonstop, eventually leading to a healthy respect which leads to an eventual cease in hostilities.
.... k we can stop here...
NOTE : The Coalition war hasn't happened yet, that happens afte a month or so after BoB and FIX sign a NAP.
Wether BoB meant to destroy FIX or not is debatable.. personally I think they thought FIX was a worthy oponent and were more interested in beating up FA.
However, for about 3 months FIX and BoB fought like clockwork every day at around 7pm (GMT) a 70-80 man BoB fleet would roll into Querious and we would fight them sometimes they won, sometimes we won.
This went on for months everyday without fail.
Draw your own conclusions....
[edit:typo]
I'm sorry Nez but what you just described isn't BOB's undivided attention. I'm talking 23/7 continuous fighting along the front.
Edit: Added last sentence to clarify.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:47:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Slowboat And didn't You also pay a visit to ASCN during that and didn't you guys have some good smack free fights that weekend? I believe so.. from what I remember it was 3 to 4 engagements that weekend. Are you saying ASCN insulted you guys after that or during it?
Yes, we did = we weren't called cheats or exploiters then and look at the difference now, since McGreedy and CYVOK, even in his LATEST blog, have started doing so.
You expect us to respect ASCN when every other word out of their leaders mouths is "bob cheat", "bob exploit", "bob are gms", "bob are devs"?
Not gonna happen, and for that we can thank the amazing genius that is the CYVOK spin machine.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:51:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Slowboat
One more point. Is ASCN fighting or not? Isn't that suposedly what you guys want? Fights? Or is it you just want people to bend over and say "You know what? Your right. BOB is uber l33t and we bow down to your greatness"?
The ASCN pilots want to fight, but there FC's appear to be holding them back. For about the last week and a half, I've been receiving fairly constant requests for 1vs1 fights in PS (and I'm not the only one). Make of that what you will.
P.S. Good to be on the battlefield with you again ANZA, shame it's on opposing sides.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:52:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 29/10/2006 21:00:06
Quote:
I'm sorry Nez but what you just described isn't BOB's undivided attention.
I never said it was... but even you must admit that FIX fought tooth and nail against overwhelming odds for its space and survived.
And even after that FIX provided BoB with months upon months of unadulterated fleet warfare fun.
No I don't think BoB wanted to destroy FIX after they saw how we fought off SE and themselves at the same time.. but the why of it is important.
I'll let you work that out for yourself.
PS I'd like to add something else as well... can people stop dragging up ancient history if they are not sure about it
[edit:typo]
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:55:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Slowboat And didn't You also pay a visit to ASCN during that and didn't you guys have some good smack free fights that weekend? I believe so.. from what I remember it was 3 to 4 engagements that weekend. Are you saying ASCN insulted you guys after that or during it?
Yes, we did = we weren't called cheats or exploiters then and look at the difference now, since McGreedy and CYVOK, even in his LATEST blog, have started doing so.
You expect us to respect ASCN when every other word out of their leaders mouths is "bob cheat", "bob exploit", "bob are gms", "bob are devs"?
Not gonna happen, and for that we can thank the amazing genius that is the CYVOK spin machine.
And what Dian? You expect ASCN to hold a vote of no confidence in the leaders of the alliance, supposing such a thing could happen, in the middle of a WAR? So because some people, highly placed people granted, are saying things you don't like you are going to say that every ASCN member that fights doesn't deserve respect for doing so?
IF there were internal issues in an Alliance the worst thing they could do during a war is try to solve it and you guys bloody well know it. Better to fight the war and act as a unified front THEN try to solve any internal issues. Not squabble and infight DURING the war and do BOBs work for them. Wouldn't you say?
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Dawn Princess
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.29 20:57:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Dawn Princess on 29/10/2006 21:06:27 Nevermind, no matter the point I have no doubt it will get twisted around on this forum. Ignore.
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:06:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Dawn Princess Edited by: Dawn Princess on 29/10/2006 20:58:26 All I know is, every single fleet battle I have been in against BoB has ended the same way (including tonights) - in a node crash with very fast BoB relog (no i am not saying you are causing the crashes or haxxing or anything I am just saying every single time you log back in quicker than we do for whatever reason) and me unable to log back in for the night.
The second the node crashed, did you open a fresh client, hit login, click your charactar and stare at that black screen until you loaded? If so, do you know for sure that 100% of your buddies did the same? I did, and I am. That's all it comes down to.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:08:00 -
[115]
imho molle,
our threads look cooler :)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:12:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Slowboat
I'm sorry Nez but what you just described isn't BOB's undivided attention.
.. just been thinking about what you said some more...I'm going to go out on a limb here... and perhaps BoB will disagree with what I am about to say...
here goes...
If FA had more pro-active and fielded a half decent fighting fleet in the defence of Period Basis and Delve when BoB first started dropping anchor in those regions.... and had FA and FIX been proper allies with a Mutual Defence Pact..... then BoB wouldn't have been able to gain their initial foothold.
As it happened.. and I'm sorry for any ex-FA readers following this thread.. FA fleets were useless and more of a liability than a military asset.
So what Endersgame was saying was in part true... FIX with a little bit of help could have stood up to BoB and BoB accept this and is why there was a healthy respect between us.
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Ab Initio
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:17:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Dawn Princess All I know is, every single fleet battle I have been in against BoB has ended the same way (including tonights) - in a node crash with very fast BoB relog (no i am not saying you are causing the crashes or haxxing or anything I am just saying every single time you log back in quicker than we do for whatever reason) and me unable to log back in for the night.
I just wish we could either (i) get CCP to fix it so that following node crash people log back in to a random SS to avoid all the relog gankage so we could get on with the game, or (ii) we could agree a ceasefire following a node crash so that people can log back in and we can try to get some fun without people trying to score cheap ganks - or is this not a game?
It's amazing how many times this has come up since the start of this war. The reality of the situation is that BoB logs in faster because we're not worried about being ganked at a gate. We know that at the same time we click our avatar on the opening screen, the rest of BoB are doing exactly the same thing.
The fact is that you have pilots waiting that extra 30 seconds, just so that they aren't first in. You have pilots waiting to hear on TS if there is a bob fleet already on the gate. To the point where in a number of recent fights, ASCN has refused to log on at all.
As long as you can't trust everyone to login asap, you will never come out of that scenario on top.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:18:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Slowboat And what Dian? You expect ASCN to hold a vote of no confidence in the leaders of the alliance, supposing such a thing could happen, in the middle of a WAR? So because some people, highly placed people granted, are saying things you don't like you are going to say that every ASCN member that fights doesn't deserve respect for doing so?
That's what I'm saying, yes. If you fly with people that make you look bad, guess what? You look bad. If you continue to support such idiotic statements with your continued presence in your fleet then you may aswell say the words yourself.
Start owning up to your failures, until then no you won't get anything but our pity.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:19:00 -
[119]
Well last time I looked ASCN had an assload of stations. Of which the Paragon Soul ones are the least defended ones. If they continue to loose two a month then they can keep going for long enough for their own tactic to come into play probably.
Their logistics so far is a huge dissapointment though. I thought they would be able to provide 24/7 coverage and huge logistics all over bob space.
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.29 21:27:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Nez Perces - Shinra on SE's bequest descend first on Querious (they retreat) and then move onto decimate Period Basis League (FA puppet government in Period Basis)
Not quite, Nez. Shinra never went after FIX, although im flattered that our occasional raid into Querious/Delve/PB and Fountain are seen as a descend on Querious. We really just settled in Vezila while regrouping and restocking, and we lead the occasional fleet to have some fun. And ya, ran into some FIX. Querious was never our goal, Period Basis was.
Also, Shinra was as active if not more active as ATUK and pre-BoB against FA. Not completely relevant to this discussion, but i'd hate it if our part was forgotten. It was Shinra that captured PB and completely pacified Delve. Shinra took the stations in Delve, but gave them to Reikoku at the time.
BoB sticked around and we didnt, thats all.
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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