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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.26 21:51:00 -
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If we are going to push the OP towards high damage pirate battleships then we might as well say train for the mach.
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Aeon Ecko
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.26 22:16:15 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Aeon Ecko wrote:
Baltec1 has already handle majority of that on asked so no point in beating a dead horse. See his comments for more detail. Good advice depends on how you take it. I could give a speech but what the point if it ls on deaf ears? define good advice? what is good to some is bad to other and what is bad to others is good to some. Can't MAKE it good advice if it is not seen as such. I leave it to the person to comprehend what HE or SHE wants to take from it.
I am a eve player NOT a rocket scientist. What do you want from me? can i live. Enjoy the game forget who is a kobe fan or lebron fan.
Let me ask you once again, what is the point of Megathron's fit you've linked? Is that your interpretation of good advise on ship to run missions? You shoudn't be a rocket scientist neither i am to give advises. But you have to have some level of expertiese which is based on your own experience. In the mean time there are a lot of well known set ups and obvious choices (talking about specific fits) which ones you couldn't ignore. For example - i did try to run some lvl 4 in a Myrmidon. It wasn't smooth and easy but was some sort of fun.
And yet your asking to TELL YOU what IS and what IS NOT i can't speak on what is good for you or not i am not anyone's parents here. Just suggestion to play off of. It seem OP has not even been in this thread since it even jumped off so no point in ANYTHING until OP has given word. At the end of the day it is THEIR experience and there's alone no one has a say over who does what. I am not Kim Jong Un. |
Aeon Ecko
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.26 22:30:54 -
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baltec1 wrote:If we are going to push the OP towards high damage pirate battleships then we might as well say train for the mach.
Can you talk to Tiddle Jr and give him some of your wisdom. You seem a reasonable guy. He will not let this go. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.26 22:54:30 -
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baltec1 wrote:If we are going to push the OP towards high damage pirate battleships then we might as well say train for the mach.
Mach does not scale well to low skill players. T1 arties and ACs and the lack of ability to properly use a MJD or MWD would be a death sentence in a ship that already has tank issues and relies on DPS for tank.
Rattle is not just a high damage pirate BS, it is a High Damage/High Survivability multipurpose Pirate BS. It honestly is OP, but that is ok. It just happens to be one of the most perfect ships to learn missions in, and also to train to its full potential. Years ago it was the RNI, then the HML Tengu, now its Rattle for kill all and Mach for blitz and Golem for easy street. Mach and Golem are skill intensive, Rattle is good right at lvl 3 across the board and training for one can be done in 30 days. Your skills just make it better with time. |
Arthur Aihaken
Jormungand Corporation
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Posted - 2015.04.26 23:33:50 -
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baltec1 wrote:If we are going to push the OP towards high damage pirate battleships then we might as well say train for the mach.
Because it's a lot more ISK.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.27 08:18:22 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Mach does not scale well to low skill players.
It took a month to be viable on my alt who had no gunnery or minmatar ship skills, It is a shorter train than the rattle.
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
T1 arties and ACs and the lack of ability to properly use a MJD or MWD would be a death sentence in a ship that already has tank issues and relies on DPS for tank.
Hence my advice of running it in level 3 missions for a while.
Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Rattle is not just a high damage pirate BS, it is a High Damage/High Survivability multipurpose Pirate BS. It honestly is OP, but that is ok. It just happens to be one of the most perfect ships to learn missions in
The perfect ship to learn how to pilot battleships in missions is something you can train into very quickly, is very easy to use and costs as little as possible. That rattle is not that ship.
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Amanda Chan
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Posted - 2015.04.27 08:19:37 -
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Well...this thread got derailed. At the end of the day the Rattlesnake is a damn cheap faction battleship.
It has a very high SP ceiling and also a very low entry SP because of the hull bonus. Yes a Raven would be cheaper, but the OP asked for a comparison between the RNI, SNI and Rattlesnake.
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Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.27 20:22:26 -
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You can use a rattle before you are even fully trained. Using RHML's instead of cruises, Faction Heavies or Gecko and using a brawler tank akin to a gila's will still be very able, and it will only grow with you. You can switch to Cruise/Sentry/MJD/Active Tanking in whatever combination as you gain more skills. |
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