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Umoek	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 22:14:00 SuperChunk > yes? Umoek > 10m for the pod SuperChunk > you give me 10 mil? Umoek > yes Umoek > for u to let me pod go SuperChunk > ok Umoek > there SuperChunk > 10 more for my gang SuperChunk > and then... I was podded after i gave SuperChunk member of Dire Trucking and 9th fleet 10m. 2006.10.31 21:51 Victim: Umoek Alliance: NONE Corp: MicroFunks Destroyed: Capsule System: Old Man Star Security: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Major Norries (laid the final blow) Security: 0.5 Alliance: NONE Corp: Princess Androiette Industrial Xenofirm Ship: Ishkur Weapon: Light Ion Blaster II Name: SuperChunk Security: -5.7 Alliance: 9th Fleet Corp: Dire Trucking Ship: Eagle Weapon: J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I As u can see he destroyed my pod still with his buddies and did not honor his word.... i was podded and lost my ship and 10m. DO NOT TRUST THE 9TH OR DIRE TRUCKING... they make a bad name for all pirates everywhere.
ClawKnight Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:34:00 - [2] Thats shocking behaviour tbh
Hunter Hughes	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:43:00 - [3] Edited by: Hunter Hughes on 31/10/2006 22:42:48 they should be kick out of their corps or should be forced to give you money for your implants. I know my alliance/ corp would rip me a new one for a stunt like that and i know most other pirating corps would also. futhermore, if you are able to convice your corp leader and you have researched their corp's allys a stunt like that= WAR DEC.
Roamer excertes Caldari The Alt Corps	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:49:00 - [4] An accidental podding does occur and is regretable, and the isk should be returned. A deliberate podding after ransom is paid is the lowest act a pirate can make. Shame on Diretrucking and 9th fleet, you have joined the ranks of scum suckers in my opinion
Terranid Meester	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:03:00 - [5] Edited by: Terranid Meester on 31/10/2006 23:07:36 Not much of a surprise to see them do something like that. If you wish to wardec them it might be worth wardecing 9th Fleet Academy first (since it is separate from 9th Fleet). Im not sure of the status of Hidden Realm Recruitment/Academy (think thats its name) but its also separate from 9th Fleet although it may not be as active as 9th Fleet Academy. Naturally they will admit the 9th Fleet Academy to the alliance soon afterwards.
Qel Hoth Kensei Mercenaries	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:04:00 - [6] I'm suprised that nothing was done immediatly to the guy who podded you. Dishonoring ransoms is bad for buisiness, nobody is gonna pay you if you pop them anyway, so its in their best interests to make you believe it was a mistake before you run off to the forums and rant about it. Personally, had I pulled a stunt like this, CEO would have ripped me a new one, booted me from corp, and put me on KOS list permanently.
Hippo117 Caldari Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:13:00 - [7] Originally by: Terranid Meester Edited by: Terranid Meester on 31/10/2006 23:07:36 Not much of a surprise to see them do something like that. If you wish to wardec them it might be worth wardecing 9th Fleet Academy first (since it is separate from 9th Fleet). Im not sure of the status of Hidden Realm Recruitment/Academy (think thats its name) but its also separate from 9th Fleet although it may not be as active as 9th Fleet Academy. Naturally they will admit the 9th Fleet Academy to the alliance soon afterwards. Yeah good job terranid, you wardecced noobs. So much more honour you had that what they did. -------------- Booby > Rokh Obligulatory 'opinion does not nescessarily represent those of my corp/alliance' stuff here.
SamuelLJackson Wings of Redemption 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:17:00 - [8] Edited by: SamuelLJackson on 31/10/2006 23:17:15 Also Terranid, how'd that work out for you? 3 or 4 lachesiss lost for a couple of rifter kills, congrats also, sorry to hear that Umo
Soviet Orelius Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:26:00 - [9] I am not the CEO. Also, I like to congratulate Terranid for war decing an Academy of new players who get training in Mining, Missioning, PVP. Terranid you really really really need to let it go. You got ganked. A lot. Basically pwned multiple times over the last year. It happens. Let it go. Find a new corp. Go mine some. Do a mission. Buy another Recon Cruiser and be merry. -Balance and Order-
GanjaBear Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:32:00 - [10] Edited by: GanjaBear on 31/10/2006 23:39:35 Originally by: Soviet Orelius I am not the CEO. Also, I like to congratulate Terranid for war decing an Academy of new players who get training in Mining, Missioning, PVP. Terranid you really really really need to let it go. You got ganked. A lot. Basically pwned multiple times over the last year. It happens. Let it go. Find a new corp. Go mine some. Do a mission. Buy another Recon Cruiser and be merry. Nice attempt to derail the thread from the important point. It is morons like you guys that give pirates a bad name, I dont see an apology here? I dont see any offer to recompense his implants, and telling your corps member he is a naughty boy isnt really a punishment to fit the crime. If you teach noobs in your academy to act like what happened to Umoek then I'm not surprised you get war decc'd hopefully after this disgusting display a few more corps will too
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:47:00 - [11] Edited by: kublai on 31/10/2006 23:47:00 Pay him 10mill + an additional 10mill as a sorry and maybe everyone who reads these forums wont -loathe- your corporation for all eternity onwards. We will however never trust you pieces of no good carebear scum. Christ, some people are just do low it's sick. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
Lord C'tan	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:51:00 - [12] Solution. Join a corp in the BRUCE alliance, we give them a good kicking on a regular basis. P.S We even stole a large Gall Tower from them when they left it un anchored Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Soviet Orelius Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:52:00 - [13] I can't apologize because we aren't the ones who did it. However to quash this I will offer to pay him out of my own pocket. My corpmate is wrong for not forcing the hand of his gangmates but I can't apologize for the other corp involved and I won't. People are going to hate us or like us no matter what. Such is life. This may make more people dislike us and brand us as oath breakers but I can't do anything about the past. Also, you don't have to edit your message so you are in the right. Just post something afterwards so you can correct yourself. -Balance and Order-
Soviet Orelius Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Lord C'tan Solution. Join a corp in the BRUCE alliance, we give them a good kicking on a regular basis. P.S We even stole a large Gall Tower from them when they left it un anchored Lord, C'tan, thank you for admitting that your Alliance and Corp violated the Non-Agression Pact we had set in place. With only a few hours left to the go on the NAP and the VOTE nearly passed your corp made it difficult for us and many others to trust us. It's good to know that BRUCE has pirates too. -Balance and Order-
GanjaBear Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:55:00 - [15] BTW I only edited because you had edited your post while I was writing mine, your original post never even mentioned the dishonoured ransom the quote inside mine is your original in its entirety.
Soviet Orelius Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:57:00 - [16] Originally by: GanjaBear BTW I only edited because you had edited your post while I was writing mine, your original post never even mentioned the dishonoured ransom the quote inside mine is your original in its entirety. Sorry Ganja. I was actually talking about Umoek. -Balance and Order-
Keomu Kon	Posted - 2006.10.31 23:59:00 - [17] Edited by: Keomu Kon on 01/11/2006 00:00:49 Originally by: Soviet Orelius I can't apologize because we aren't the ones who did it. However to quash this I will offer to pay him out of my own pocket. My corpmate is wrong for not forcing the hand of his gangmates but I can't apologize for the other corp involved and I won't. People are going to hate us or like us no matter what. Such is life. This may make more people dislike us and brand us as oath breakers but I can't do anything about the past. Also, you don't have to edit your message so you are in the right. Just post something afterwards so you can correct yourself. Never got offered any payment... u just sent me 10m isk out of no where (Not even offering to cover my implants) and i can understand why people would dislike you. -Umoek
Keomu Kon	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Keomu Kon Edited by: Keomu Kon on 01/11/2006 00:00:49 Originally by: Soviet Orelius I can't apologize because we aren't the ones who did it. However to quash this I will offer to pay him out of my own pocket. My corpmate is wrong for not forcing the hand of his gangmates but I can't apologize for the other corp involved and I won't. People are going to hate us or like us no matter what. Such is life. This may make more people dislike us and brand us as oath breakers but I can't do anything about the past. Also, you don't have to edit your message so you are in the right. Just post something afterwards so you can correct yourself. Never got offered any payment... u just sent me 10m isk out of no where (Not even offering to cover my implants) and i can understand why people would dislike you. And superchunk was there till the very end with his scram on me!! He lied to your looks like you can trust your own corp mates... -Umoek
Terranid Meester	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:16:00 - [19] Originally by: SamuelLJackson Edited by: SamuelLJackson on 31/10/2006 23:17:15 Also Terranid, how'd that work out for you? 3 or 4 lachesiss lost for a couple of rifter kills, congrats Alas I lost 2 in the recent war. I shoot pirates. I lose ships. Life goes on. See you in round 2.
Roamer excertes Caldari The Alt Corps	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:16:00 - [20] And superchunk was there till the very end with his scram on me!! He lied to your looks like you can trust your own corp mates... looks like someone or some corps alliance is trying to cover up. being caught out dishonouring ransoms = Very Bad trying to cover it up and pretend its all a big mistake = Lame
Nahia Senne Fortunis Novum	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:50:00 - [21] all is good in love and pew pew. make war, not politics! Make ECCM viable! Give it 25% to scanning resolution!
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:51:00 - [22] Lame Lame Lame Last Weeks Signature
Soviet Orelius Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:52:00 - [23] I am completely lost now. It looks like someone is editing their comments. I don't even see that comment that was quoted about this whole issue that had SuperChunk highlighted. I am not really sure what happened but it seems the issue is being twisted beyond it's original scope. Uhm. -Balance and Order-
Zomiaen Gallente Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.01 00:55:00 - [24] Gah. I thought of 9th fleet as quite honorable until this. Sigh. ** like this is why us pirates can't make much ISK off ransoming anymore. _________________________** pirates wear pink! - eris was herrrrrrre
B0rn2KiLL MicroFunks	Posted - 2006.11.01 01:06:00 - [25] In regards to this incident, in lights of the recent developments in the area, i would like to wrap this post up, and will be requesting it will be locked with my final statement as the seal. a rogue Dire trucking alongside 2 other PAIX members did destroy the Rupture of one of my members, namely Umo. they also proceeded in destroying his capsule, despite my member's cooperation with thier ransoming procedure. all of the above was not supposed to happen since my corp is native to that cluster of systems, and active in its defence. and very much nuetral to most of the native politics (those involved will understand what i speak of) the 10 mil were returned, true. but after 'diplomatic' efforts. mind you all this occoured while i was offline and off TS. now, to shed some light. a reset of standing had occoured not too long ago, last night to be exact, with the agreement that "friends of friends" will not be shot at, we were such, and im sure most of you are starting to get an idea of how things got to be. to top it all, it happens to be that Princess Androiette of PAIX isnt too fluent in english, which would have probably complicated the ransoming procedure in the first place. Now, due to the current situation of the OMS cluster and its patrons\veterans, and me being actually considerate for once, i would like to wrap this ordeal up. chances are 9th will respect ransoms. just hope you fall under the mercy of those who speak proper english I will resolve this matter internally. and thats end of; 'taking (another) one for the team' now i couldnt care a **** about most of those who spoke in this post, people are turning the post into a personal message board, please go post on your respective forums, and leave this post be. enough smack and e-drama, because personally im fed up, and wish non of this to any of you. especially if you have .. anger management issues like myself I would like to note that, this a matter of principle. and would appreciate if people respected that. B2K, CEO of Microfunks // Darthjosh of Turbulent Subversion. --- new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
Karlemgne Red Navy Faction Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.01 01:57:00 - [26] Originally by: Roamer excertes An accidental podding does occur and is regretable, and the isk should be returned. A deliberate podding after ransom is paid is the lowest act a pirate can make. Shame on Diretrucking and 9th fleet, you have joined the ranks of scum suckers in my opinion If everything is exactly as the OP has said, then I agree. The only proper thing to be done here, imo, is for the offending corp to expel (and pod many times) the offending member, while reimbursing the op for the RANSOM only. There are two sides to every story though. :-/ -Karlemgne
Scoundrelus Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.11.01 02:19:00 - [27] Who the hell is 9th Fleet? =============================================== We are Watching You.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.01 02:26:00 - [28] Pay it back. That's it. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Space Biatch	Posted - 2006.11.01 05:21:00 - [29] I'd like to hear if Umoek, ever gets some adequete compensation from the 9th. I seriously doubt if it happens, but maybe my poor view of there entire alliance will change if it does.
Hippo117 Caldari Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:09:00 - [30] Reading the entire contents of all the posts reveals it was indeed paid back. -------------- Booby > Rokh Obligulatory 'opinion does not nescessarily represent those of my corp/alliance' stuff here.
SuperChunk Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:16:00 - [31] The fact that Umoek has you all believing this is ***** ridiculous. He paid and i turned off my scram. The other two that i was with said screw that we want more at least 30 mil. He did'nt pay so THEY podded him not me. That is their business not mine. Umoek jumped me in a t2 fitted rupture and lost. He needs to quit being a *** and get on with it. I have never dishonored a ransom and never will. Ask anyone that i have ransomed. There are only 2 things which are sacred to me and that is 1V1 and ransoms. And if you want to keep thinking that it was 9th fleet go head, but I acted on my own accord and to what i thought was best at the time.
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:19:00 - [32] Originally by: SuperChunk The fact that Umoek has you all believing this is ***** ridiculous. He paid and i turned off my scram. The other two that i was with said screw that we want more at least 30 mil. He did'nt pay so THEY podded him not me. That is their business not mine. Umoek jumped me in a t2 fitted rupture and lost. He needs to quit being a *** and get on with it. I have never dishonored a ransom and never will. Ask anyone that i have ransomed. There are only 2 things which are sacred to me and that is 1V1 and ransoms. And if you want to keep thinking that it was 9th fleet go head, but I acted on my own accord and to what i thought was best at the time. well, if you ransom, you should make sure that everyone in your gang will agree with you. As long as he was refunded 10m, then it is okay. This corp is recruiting. Billboard Project
Gen Kumon Caldari Pirates of Destruction Union Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:41:00 - [33] Yeah...if you accept a ransom, you do it for the WHOLE gang, regardless of what corps are involved. What happened here, from what I can tell, is that there were two corps in one gang, correct? And from there, one accepted a ransom and left, but didn't keep the others from demanding a second ransom, even though the captured pilot assumed he was paying to get freed. And then after he refused to pay a second ransom and was podded, it took much effort to get the first ransom back, right? That's...not quite as bad as popping him on purpose after he payed, but it's still dirty as all hell. He should have gotten him money back within two or three minutes, max. He shouldn't have had to call in more people and make a public post about it.
Empress Aphrodite Soar Angelic Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:44:00 - [34] So, you "honoured" it but the gang you were with did not? So, they don't respect you? Take it you won't be flying with them again? If it was a gang I take it you were going to share the ransom? If they said it wasn't enough you should have repaid before they podded. Did you even discuss it properly? If the ransom was sent at the same time they decided to pod, a swift refund and apology should have been given. Not even a proper apology here from anyone connected with this gang or their corps. If you lot looked lame at the beginning of this post, you look worse now. If I win your auction, please Convo me before escrowing so I can claim straight away. Thanks!
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:49:00 - [35] just as a word: judge each PC corp as its own. PC is a bunch of different corps under 1 flag, and each corp's policies are their own. This corp is recruiting. Billboard Project
SuperChunk Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:50:00 - [36] Originally by: Gen Kumon Yeah...if you accept a ransom, you do it for the WHOLE gang, regardless of what corps are involved. What happened here, from what I can tell, is that there were two corps in one gang, correct? And from there, one accepted a ransom and left, but didn't keep the others from demanding a second ransom, even though the captured pilot assumed he was paying to get freed. And then after he refused to pay a second ransom and was podded, it took much effort to get the first ransom back, right? That's...not quite as bad as popping him on purpose after he payed, but it's still dirty as all hell. He should have gotten him money back within two or three minutes, max. He shouldn't have had to call in more people and make a public post about it. Umoek convo'ed me while i was popping his ship when he realzed his mistake of jumping me. He said dont pop me im friendly? He had -10 standings so i popped him. I should have cleared it with the gang first for the ransom price next time i will do that. But we sat there a good 5 minutes dicussing while his POD was scrammed. They were afraid he might be stalling for time and calling for help. So they popped him. The whole time he was saying "Dont do it you'll be sorry" ** like that. For such an old player to act like a *** *** ass noob is just pathetic. And since I did not clear the ransom first with the gang i take full responsibility for my actions. And he was repayed within 10 min of being podded.
Rico Naginata Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:54:00 - [37] I have known Chunk for a while ingame, and NEVER have i seen him act dishonourably in any way. even when our corps were negative to each other, he was courteous, friendly and polite. I honestly cannot see him doing anything like this deliberately. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Roamer excertes Caldari The Alt Corps	Posted - 2006.11.02 08:06:00 - [38] Edited by: Roamer excertes on 02/11/2006 08:12:35 1. The gang you was in took the money and held him for 5 minutes, so the other members of the gang were aware that you had taken the 10 million as ransom. 2. You told your corp you warped off , yet you say here that you were there for the 5 minutes 3. Umoek shows in his post where he questioned you about the 10 mill paid, and you stated , "10 more for the gang" it shows you had no intention of returning it. 4. You made no attempt to stop the podding, and still may of actually been a part of it, as so much of your story on here doesnt match what your corps officer has been told 5. After the podding NO IMMEDIATE attempt was made to return the money,, instead as posted and not denied by anyone on your side a lot of pressure from mutual friends had to be bought in 6. You dont even have the decency to apologise The posts made by you are made even worse by smacking Umoek instead of addressing the issues in a civil manner. reading all the posts in this thread it is clear that you cant even tell the truth to your own corps so why should any of us trust ANYTHING you say. You sir, and all those in your gang are a disgrace
Le Skunk Privateers	Posted - 2006.11.02 08:09:00 - [39] Hmm - what about the flip side when you agree a ransom but the victim is using ransom negotiation convo time to get that bit of cap for a mwd boost and run / calling there friends into system to protect them? How come no pirates post threads sayin " MR SMIGGLES TRICKED ME AND DIDNT PAY HIS RANSOM CRY CRY CRY AND NOW MY SHIP IS POPPERS!" You got your money back now stop crying.
Roamer excertes Caldari The Alt Corps	Posted - 2006.11.02 08:18:00 - [40] Quote: You got your money back now stop crying. But how many others has this guy and his gang mates ransomed and popped who dont have mutual friends with 9th/Diretrucking to put the pressure on for a refund?. Ransoming then podding, then NOT IMMEDIATLY paying the ransom back is low. this guy had no intention of returning it until pressure was put on. I know i will never pay a ransom to Dire/9th because i dont have the mutual friens to ensure I get the money back when they pod me anyway
Julius DarkWings Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.11.02 08:34:00 - [41] Just pod the guy and get it over with... no ransom no problem, just that wonderful squishy sound. CK1 Recruitment Link
Cadela Fria Amarr eXin Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.02 08:41:00 - [42] As far as I can tell there have been some pretty bad attempts at covering this up I don't know, just...bad taste..really really bad taste. For shame! -Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
KayaYautja Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 09:50:00 - [43] I realise this has nothing to do with the matter at hand, but what were you doing PvP'ing in an Implant clone anyway? If you stand to lose a lot of ISK through implants and you know full well your going to be fighting you switch clones. Sorry but thats just the way i feel. I'm the omega baby!
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.02 10:44:00 - [44] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 02/11/2006 10:44:13 Meh ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Requiescat Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2006.11.02 12:36:00 - [45] In my experience, 9th fleet don't ransom at all anyway. I'd say consider yourself lucky, but apparently you are not. Go figure. Can't waste a day when the night brings a hearse So make your move and plead the fifth, 'cause you can't plead the first
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:26:00 - [46] Ugh, too much drama. [ore mongers, recruiting]
Murtific Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:41:00 - [47] Superchunk is innocent... He's a co-worker and a friend of 2 years now. There's also about 5-7 members of the 9th fleet that are co-workers also. If u dont believe superchunk or myself. Try asking those friends of ours to speak up =] My only thought is. Why the heck would you be pirating in a t2 rupture with +4 full snake set........ Dumb mother &#)($@(&#).............. Plus. Complaining about a 10 mil ransom is worthless. You could go out to 0.0 for 30 min and make 10 mil..... Grow up and learn your lession and play smartly.
Lord C'tan	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:47:00 - [48] Did any1 read the above post as .BLAH BLAH BLAH yes they cant ransom properly BLAH BLAH BLAH so there. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
SuperChunk Caldari Dire Trucking 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.11.02 19:04:00 - [49] Edited by: SuperChunk on 02/11/2006 19:05:01 Originally by: Umoek Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 23:27:45 Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 22:42:39 Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 22:39:44 9th fleet pilots engaged me in OMS , and after destroying my ship ransomed my Pod for 10million isk. Due to my implants I paid up, and was then podded, I spoke to the pilot that podded me, Superchunk of Dire trucking, and informed him that i had paid the 10 million "SuperChunk > 10 more for my gang" So i convoed one of the Dire Trucking Officers saying look i paid up the ransom of 10m and your piolt still is going to pop my pod please talk to him... but she did nothing.. says alot about her character. Only extreme pressure put onto 9th fleet leadership by mutual friends led to the ransom money being eventually returned, however this doesnt cover the loss of my implants. So take this warning , 9th fleet/Dire trucking will not honour ransoms I apologize that I was a part of this situation and was unable to stop my gangmates from podding you. The ransom was conducting with the highest standard of professionalism and it was not I who caused the final act.
NewYorker Minmatar Illyrian Cohort	Posted - 2006.11.03 04:49:00 - [50] Originally by: Le Skunk Hmm - what about the flip side when you agree a ransom but the victim is using ransom negotiation convo time to get that bit of cap for a mwd boost and run / calling there friends into system to protect them? How come no pirates post threads sayin " MR SMIGGLES TRICKED ME AND DIDNT PAY HIS RANSOM CRY CRY CRY AND NOW MY SHIP IS POPPERS!" You got your money back now stop crying. The topic on hand is pod randoming... MWD on a pod?
NewYorker Minmatar Illyrian Cohort	Posted - 2006.11.03 04:50:00 - [51] Originally by: Requiescat In my experience, 9th fleet don't ransom at all anyway. I'd say consider yourself lucky, but apparently you are not. Go figure. 9th Fleet might not, but apparently chunk does as he has stated ask the people he randsomed.
NewYorker Minmatar Illyrian Cohort	Posted - 2006.11.03 04:53:00 - [52] Originally by: SuperChunk Edited by: SuperChunk on 02/11/2006 19:05:01 Originally by: Umoek Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 23:27:45 Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 22:42:39 Edited by: Umoek on 31/10/2006 22:39:44 9th fleet pilots engaged me in OMS , and after destroying my ship ransomed my Pod for 10million isk. Due to my implants I paid up, and was then podded, I spoke to the pilot that podded me, Superchunk of Dire trucking, and informed him that i had paid the 10 million "SuperChunk > 10 more for my gang" So i convoed one of the Dire Trucking Officers saying look i paid up the ransom of 10m and your piolt still is going to pop my pod please talk to him... but she did nothing.. says alot about her character. Only extreme pressure put onto 9th fleet leadership by mutual friends led to the ransom money being eventually returned, however this doesnt cover the loss of my implants. So take this warning , 9th fleet/Dire trucking will not honour ransoms I apologize that I was a part of this situation and was unable to stop my gangmates from podding you. The ransom was conducting with the highest standard of professionalism and it was not I who caused the final act. Highest level of professionalism would have meant that you would have your gang in control while conducting a randsom. If the person offered 10 million and you accepted, it would have meant that the gang accepted. Considering that the gang wanted 30 million, it shows that you didn't even discuss with the gang how much the randsom should be. Not very professional in my view. I am more leaning toward him randsoming the pod for self gain, then leaving the victim to the wolves.
NewYorker Minmatar Illyrian Cohort	Posted - 2006.11.03 04:56:00 - [53] Originally by: Murtific Superchunk is innocent... He's a co-worker and a friend of 2 years now. There's also about 5-7 members of the 9th fleet that are co-workers also. If u dont believe superchunk or myself. Try asking those friends of ours to speak up =] My only thought is. Why the heck would you be pirating in a t2 rupture with +4 full snake set........ Dumb mother &#)($@(&#).............. Plus. Complaining about a 10 mil ransom is worthless. You could go out to 0.0 for 30 min and make 10 mil..... Grow up and learn your lession and play smartly. How many of you at the office really know how the other is. Hell, I don't even know my neighbors for 10 years to know what they do in the privacy of their home (not putting up a public front). Unless you were there, your words mean nothing.
Scoundrelus Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.11.03 05:21:00 - [54] I think Umoek is just using the entire situation to wring some more money for himself out of these guys. In which case I have to say kudos to him. A person who tries to take the most advantage out of a situation is the kind of person who will survive in EVE. I remember once when I lost a fully insured geddon with crap fittings when I got ganked ratting. The people ratting thought I was a pirate (which I was) but I told them I was an anti-pirate who killed pirates and thats how I got my low sec status. The story was believable since I was on an industrial corp at the time (they let me pirate and built me ships so what the hell). Just as a cherry on the cupcake I told them I hadn't insured my ship. So I got a geddon, with fittings, plus the money to insure it. Gotta make the best out of all situations. =============================================== We are Watching You.
JoCool Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.03 09:54:00 - [55] kos. _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Murtific Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.03 11:05:00 - [56] NewYorker..... You are stating the obvious. But you have failed to read the forum in detail. If you will re-read the forum, you will realize superchunk was 1 v 1. No gang needed no conversation required about ransoming details to the gang other than , dont kill this guy because I just got ransom off him. Maybe you should re-read instead of stating the obvious. Thx.. People jumping into bowls of soup they have no business in....
Waxau Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2006.11.03 11:05:00 - [57] Wasnt this a speech Tony Blair made once?
Bill Shankly	Posted - 2006.11.03 11:44:00 - [58] who cares honourable pirates are crap and are just wannabe pirates scared to be dishonourable.
Roamer excertes Caldari The Alt Corps	Posted - 2006.11.03 13:07:00 - [59] Edited by: Roamer excertes on 03/11/2006 13:14:38 Originally by: "Murtific" If you will re-read the forum, you will realize superchunk was 1 v 1 Quote: a rogue Dire trucking alongside 2 other PAIX members did destroy the Rupture of one of my members, namely Umo. they also proceeded in destroying his capsule Murtific.. How is that a 1v1 ????? take your own advice and read the thread before making an ass of yourself
NewYorker Minmatar Illyrian Cohort	Posted - 2006.11.03 21:55:00 - [60] Originally by: SuperChunk The fact that Umoek has you all believing this is ***** ridiculous. He paid and i turned off my scram. The other two that i was with said screw that we want more at least 30 mil. He did'nt pay so THEY podded him not me. That is their business not mine. Umoek jumped me in a t2 fitted rupture and lost. He needs to quit being a *** and get on with it. I have never dishonored a ransom and never will. Ask anyone that i have ransomed. There are only 2 things which are sacred to me and that is 1V1 and ransoms. And if you want to keep thinking that it was 9th fleet go head, but I acted on my own accord and to what i thought was best at the time. Murtific...take your own advise and read the whole thread. Do you want me to make SuperChunk's own statement to show you that when the randsom happened...he was ganged? Guess Murtific gets free smoothies or some type of incentive at work. Apparently SuperChunk didn't even tell him the whole story, yet Murtific is willing to go out on a limb for his co-worker. How cute
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.11.04 06:26:00 - [61] Originally by: NewYorker Originally by: SuperChunk The fact that Umoek has you all believing this is ***** ridiculous. He paid and i turned off my scram. The other two that i was with said screw that we want more at least 30 mil. He did'nt pay so THEY podded him not me. That is their business not mine. Umoek jumped me in a t2 fitted rupture and lost. He needs to quit being a *** and get on with it. I have never dishonored a ransom and never will. Ask anyone that i have ransomed. There are only 2 things which are sacred to me and that is 1V1 and ransoms. And if you want to keep thinking that it was 9th fleet go head, but I acted on my own accord and to what i thought was best at the time. Murtific...take your own advise and read the whole thread. Do you want me to make SuperChunk's own statement to show you that when the randsom happened...he was ganged? Guess Murtific gets free smoothies or some type of incentive at work. Apparently SuperChunk didn't even tell him the whole story, yet Murtific is willing to go out on a limb for his co-worker. How cute shove it This is how it happened (from murt's explanation) It was a 1v1. superchunk pwned the pirate. superchunk ransomed the pod and warped off. just as superchunk warped off, his gangmates warped in even though superchunk said not to. his gangmates screwed over superchunk. So unless you know how it happened newyorker, shut up and go back to lurking. This corp is recruiting. Billboard Project
Hammertime24 Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.04 07:37:00 - [62] The massive amounts of alts posting in this thread is pretty funny...
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.11.04 11:07:00 - [63] ok while i admit that that is really bad and a particular hate of mine. more of a hate is these posts that say "9th fleet don't honour ransoms". you mean 1 person or 1 group did not on this occasion. these posts are great to bring that to light and make ppl aware of it but the title is kinds silly. so yeah the ppl that did it and their leaders for not dealing with it correctly need a good slap. DE
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.04 12:05:00 - [64] Too many people saying stuff who weren't there. I take Murtifics word for it, because I know he wouldn't lie about it. He and his friend SuperChunk come from a world where honor and word actually means something. And this smack, and trying to deface the actions of someone who did not dishonor anything. Bah, too much drama. [ore mongers, recruiting]
Murtific Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.04 12:09:00 - [65] Quote: Murtific...take your own advise and read the whole thread. Do you want me to make SuperChunk's own statement to show you that when the randsom happened...he was ganged? Guess Murtific gets free smoothies or some type of incentive at work. Apparently SuperChunk didn't even tell him the whole story, yet Murtific is willing to go out on a limb for his co-worker. How cute You need to realize that he was 1 v 1. Even if you're in a gang. The gang does not get the ransom because they didn't have anything to do with the rupture. If I'm in a belt ratting and I'm in a gang and my gang is not in the belt, should the bounties of the rats go to the gang as well?? HECK No.. same principle applies.
Sanka Cofie Amarr Ministry of Silly Walks	Posted - 2006.11.04 18:08:00 - [66] I like cheese. I also like kittens. I really like kittens. You know what would be nice... a cheezy kitten. Or maybe a wheel of cheese made out of kitten. Yeah. That would be nice.

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