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Quazal Atreides StarTrucks Prometheus Allegiance 25	Posted - 2015.04.21 07:18:52 - [1] - Quote This is a question regarding the cross-over from scamming to breaking the rule on impersonation. Ok, Now impersonation is making yourself out to be someone else, however the old scam "give me x, and ill return x * 3" has been going ... well since the start :) But this got me to thinking that over the last 12 months the increase of the bots that say something like "Quazal Atreides sent 100m return 500m" etc... Curious how this is not using my name to fool others, Should this not fall under the impersonation or false representation of another player. I have no problems (and in my early days may have even) scammed a small bit, but when the bots are filing local with tripe like that it got me wondering about how impersonation / false representation lines up Now there are lies, lies and damn lies, but when someone is using my name to help them scam a player from cash that must surely be close if not cross the line? and nope before the trolls i have not been scammed etc, and am merely wondering what the line is between the scam and eula "falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player" is taken from eula are these scammers not saying that i am part of their scheme? For instance should a scammer use the veldmasters "chribba" name for example a new player might see it and think , oh chribba has done it so it must be cosha? Still the only person to offer corp creation free of charge. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=35634#post35634 Created over 200 was 3rd on the all time corporation job history on eve-board. This service is in stasis due to personal game time...
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 1637	Posted - 2015.04.21 07:30:13 - [2] - Quote The only ones who can answer this are located at CCP. Fire off a petition I say.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4410	Posted - 2015.04.21 07:44:40 - [3] - Quote Pak Narhoo wrote: The only ones who can answer this are located at CCP. Fire off a petition I say. Exactly. More specifically, please feel free to submit a Support Ticket under the Rules & Policies > Chat Channel Spam category. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 14256	Posted - 2015.04.21 08:28:16 - [4] - Quote From how I've interpreted it, that would not be impersonation no. Or it wouldn't be more impersonation than for example you saying "Chribba sent me a mail", be that true or not. Any statement about someone else could be impersonation. The same thing goes for anyone posting in my thread if this where the case, someone posting in my 3rd party thread saying something like "Chribba helped me trade a titan" would in that case be impersonation, seeing as only I know if said pilot actually is telling the truth or not. The scammer (imo) is not really presenting him/herself as a representative of the random player they link in local, merely claiming X did something. While I would enjoy seeing something happen to the scammer, purely because their spam is annoying, I do find it hard to see how it would fall under the EULA when me saying "ISD Ezwal just undocked" is about as much false representation, unless ofc CCP is going to do a crack at actually banning scamming. Less spam would be really nice however! /c GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Twitter @Chribba

Laken Starr Mining and Munitions Ltd Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere 74	Posted - 2015.04.21 08:43:49 - [5] - Quote No, saying someone did something is not the same thing as claiming to be that person.
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 54	Posted - 2015.04.21 09:21:22 - [6] - Quote Quazal Atreides gave me 20mill to sing love songs to him on TS then call him Daddy
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5344	Posted - 2015.04.21 10:19:48 - [7] - Quote Chribba wrote: Less spam would be really nice however! So much this. Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Quazal Atreides gave me 20mill to sing love songs to him on TS then call him Daddy Reported. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 54	Posted - 2015.04.21 10:25:49 - [8] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Chribba wrote: Less spam would be really nice however! So much this. Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Quazal Atreides gave me 20mill to sing love songs to him on TS then call him Daddy Reported. Lucas Kell just sent me 100million isk for telling him the color underwear im wearing. Api wallet verified!
Elenahina Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 467	Posted - 2015.04.21 12:32:56 - [9] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Quazal Atreides gave me 20mill to sing love songs to him on TS then call him Daddy This is horribly creepy, and I now feel like this has become an unsafe environment. I need an adult. Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
Ned Thomas Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave 1620	Posted - 2015.04.21 12:36:33 - [10] - Quote Elenahina wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Quazal Atreides gave me 20mill to sing love songs to him on TS then call him Daddy This is horribly creepy, and I now feel like this has become an unsafe environment. I need an adult. Prostitution meta-game confirmed? Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers! Onward to Thera with Eve Scout

ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 4412	Posted - 2015.04.21 13:05:16 - [11] - Quote I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Memphis Baas 309	Posted - 2015.04.21 13:54:13 - [12] - Quote Judging by the fact that the sentences they spam are long, and are repeated exactly (other than the name of the supposed winner) from a pool of several choices, it's quite apparent that they are using chat macros to generate the spam. CCP isn't doing anything to curb the spam even though they're botting to generate it, so I doubt they'll do anything if you petition "impersonation." Worth a try, but don't hold your breath. It's amusing how the scammers try to pretend that if you follow their rules for the ISK doubling you'll get your money, when in fact the rules don't matter and they'll just keep any large (or small) sums. Also, why anyone would send 1 billion and 1 cent on purpose baffles me.
War Kitten Panda McLegion 6047	Posted - 2015.04.21 14:01:06 - [13] - Quote OP, The Mittani told me to tell you that what you're describing is called lying and not impersonation. Chribba once doubled my isk too, and he liked it! I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 419	Posted - 2015.04.21 21:34:04 - [14] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Judging by the fact that the sentences they spam are long, and are repeated exactly (other than the name of the supposed winner) from a pool of several choices, it's quite apparent that they are using chat macros to generate the spam. CCP isn't doing anything to curb the spam even though they're botting to generate it, so I doubt they'll do anything if you petition "impersonation." Worth a try, but don't hold your breath. It's amusing how the scammers try to pretend that if you follow their rules for the ISK doubling you'll get your money, when in fact the rules don't matter and they'll just keep any large (or small) sums. Also, why anyone would send 1 billion and 1 cent on purpose baffles me. Exactly... Some idiot said I sent a billion + 1. Like I would send even 1 cent let alone a billion...
Delt0r Garsk Shits N Giggles 332	Posted - 2015.04.21 22:35:50 - [15] - Quote CCP has periodically cleared them out of at least the main trade hubs. Even between purges its much quieter than it use to be. Really the best way to get rid of them is the same as with spam. Filters. What won't happen is people getting smart enough to not fall for scams. I mean i just check my spam folder, in the last week i am still getting Nigerian money scams for 20 years now. And we hear about suckers falling for it every time. Death and Glory! Well fun is also good.
Sniper Smith Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 352	Posted - 2015.04.21 23:26:22 - [16] - Quote Best way to avoid Scammers is just ignore Local at hubs.. 99% is gone then :)
Perfexionist The Morally Infallible 0	Posted - 2015.05.04 00:41:50 - [17] - Quote I believe the major hubs are where their should be some involvement. The post starter has made a valid point, you can not block people spamming for isk (does that not mean you can report them for being isk spammers?) because if you do, you can not recognise someone just pulled your name to con some gullible new player. Should this not count as some sort of risk to CCP as well. If someone has been abused and they just think CCP just allow this type of behaviour because it's that type of game then what is keeping them around? Surely this caused a loss in profits. I believe counter measures should be used, do not let CCP look like a bunch of trolls who are happy to see your positive mood obliterated. Aren't there only something like 6 major stations?
Entity X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence 817	Posted - 2015.05.04 01:10:52 - [18] - Quote Chribba gave me a Rorqual once. GÖÑ `Gòª......Gòæ...GòöGòù.Gòæ.Gòæ.GòöGòù.GòªGòæ.GòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù` `Gòæ.GòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòú.GòöGòùGòá..Gòá GòáGòùGòáGò¥.GòæGòá GòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù` `Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥Gòæ.GòÜGò¥.GòÜGò¥Gòæ..GòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥.Gò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥Gòæ.GòæGòÜGò¥` Got Item?
Dustpuppy New Eden Ferengi 99	Posted - 2015.05.04 09:45:29 - [19] - Quote Chribba wrote: Less spam would be really nice however! It shouldn't be too hard to implement a server side program which keeps track of the chat log in the main trade hubs where the spam occurs. If someone repeats the same message over a given period of time x times it is considered as spam and the person who did this is banned for 1 day in the first case, then 1 week for the second one and then forever. It would be a nice ban hammer to all of these guys which run bots to announce 1) double isk (check my BIO, totally legit) 2) advertise a fully fit Orca for 699 mio 3) broadcast market errors ("If I would have the isk, please share with me...") and so on. Currently you have to close local in case you travel through any major trade hub. Otherwise you become mad at some point because no one is really talking any longer or you can't follow any discussion because of those bots. And yes, they must be bots, no one keeps typing in the same message over and over again for hours, days, weeks. Just make the whole banning automatic without waiting for feedback from players and sooner than later the spammers will give up.
Delt0r Garsk Shits N Giggles 342	Posted - 2015.05.04 12:19:23 - [20] - Quote Dustpuppy wrote: . And yes, they must be bots, no one keeps typing in the same message over and over again for hours, days, weeks. . I wouldn't be surprised. People do mine at the keyboard after all.. Oh and i have gotten a response or 2 out of them when i have ... engaged in conversion. Death and Glory! Well fun is also good.

Ajunta Pal Sith Wannabies Annonymous 12	Posted - 2015.05.04 20:08:33 - [21] - Quote Also keep in mind that the "bots" could just be that someone typed their message in the notepad, did i copy paste, and then drag and drop the links into place. Doesn't take much effort.
cecil b d'milf State War Academy Caldari State 12	Posted - 2015.05.04 23:40:18 - [22] - Quote Quazal Atreides wrote: Now there are lies, lies and damn lies No it's lies, damned lies and statistics
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 785	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:14:30 - [23] - Quote It's not impersonation its Misrepentation. Impersonate is more on the I'm not just dradis I'm. Cribba's alt.i have to claim to be a person. Misrepentation is when I claim that such and such is fact or action is true when it's not. Such as I have a one of the nxys that killed Steve the Titan and its painted with giant bees on it Bar Certified General Counsel Attorney at Law Crime and Punishment JAG Gallente Federal Navy Clients Deep Space Mining Corp Brave Crewmen of the Brave Corporations Quafe
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 2843	Posted - 2015.05.05 00:27:48 - [24] - Quote Chribba wrote: From how I've interpreted it, that would not be impersonation no. Or it wouldn't be more impersonation than for example you saying "Chribba sent me a mail", be that true or not. Any statement about someone else could be impersonation. The same thing goes for anyone posting in my thread if this where the case, someone posting in my 3rd party thread saying something like "Chribba helped me trade a titan" would in that case be impersonation, seeing as only I know if said pilot actually is telling the truth or not. The scammer (imo) is not really presenting him/herself as a representative of the random player they link in local, merely claiming X did something. While I would enjoy seeing something happen to the scammer, purely because their spam is annoying, I do find it hard to see how it would fall under the EULA when me saying "ISD Ezwal just undocked" is about as much false representation, unless ofc CCP is going to do a crack at actually banning scamming. Less spam would be really nice however! /c Dammit!!! You're right. Was so hoping for less spam in Jita. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
SilentAsTheGrave Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 244	Posted - 2015.05.05 01:48:39 - [25] - Quote Jita local channel is 100% lies. Just shut it down already and be done with it. Buddy Program: If you sign up with my buddy invite link and subscribe with a valid payment method - I will give you 95% of the going rate for PLEX!
Whittorical Quandary The Asteroid is Depleted 40	Posted - 2015.05.05 04:09:18 - [26] - Quote Regardless of names used, can we just have legitimate human scammers, not bot scammers who will sometimes use the names of other bot scammers to congratulate them of their winning... Saw something in chat: Scammer1: Congrats! Scammer2 sent 500 mil and returned 1 bil isk, thanks for following the rules! ... Scammer2: Congrats Scammer1, you sent 1 bil isk and got 2x back! "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they are genuine." GÇö Abraham Lincoln
tiberiusric Comply Or Die 198	Posted - 2015.05.05 07:28:28 - [27] - Quote Sniper Smith wrote: Best way to avoid Scammers is just ignore Local at hubs.. 99% is gone then :) to be honest this. Assume everything in the main hubs especially Jita is a scam (it usually is) oh and block everyone who is scamming The only reason scamming happens is because you let it happen to you. although as long as i have bene playing i think its the worse part of the game. Why because newbies are easily scammed and once that happens they leave, we need more new blood in eve but until CCP seriously does something about it then all the effort they are making to keep new players is all for nothing. The game can survive without the scamming aspect, personally i think its better off without it.
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1770	Posted - 2015.05.05 17:14:46 - [28] - Quote Chribba wrote: Less spam would be really nice however! THIS!
Dustpuppy New Eden Ferengi 105	Posted - 2015.05.12 15:45:27 - [29] - Quote Ajunta Pal wrote: Also keep in mind that the "bots" could just be that someone typed their message in the notepad, did i copy paste, and then drag and drop the links into place. Doesn't take much effort. Yet it is spam, no matter if a bot repeats the message or a lazy guy. If you perform the above copy&paste method to spam the local channel you should be punished like a bot. Hit the trigger (x identical or similar messages within a given time) -> 24h warning ban, then 2 weeks, then permanent.
Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24134	Posted - 2015.05.12 15:57:04 - [30] - Quote tiberiusric wrote: Sniper Smith wrote: Best way to avoid Scammers is just ignore Local at hubs.. 99% is gone then :) to be honest this. Assume everything in the main hubs especially Jita is a scam (it usually is) oh and block everyone who is scamming The only reason scamming happens is because you let it happen to you. although as long as i have bene playing i think its the worse part of the game. Why because newbies are easily scammed and once that happens they leave, we need more new blood in eve but until CCP seriously does something about it then all the effort they are making to keep new players is all for nothing. The game can survive without the scamming aspect, personally i think its better off without it. Noobs who can afford to get scammed either are no noobs ... ... or greedy people who believe they can buy their way to success. If they leave then that's fine. If they stay, that's even better. The stupid new-player-argument doesn't work. S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.

Solecist Project Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 24134	Posted - 2015.05.12 15:59:23 - [31] - Quote SilentAsTheGrave wrote: Jita local channel is 100% lies. Just shut it down already and be done with it. If you have it closed you can't know this is true. Besides it being impossible to be true. S.O.L. GANKING4GOOD Abolish Rookiecorps.
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 135	Posted - 2015.05.22 04:28:19 - [32] - Quote SilentAsTheGrave wrote: Jita local channel is 100% lies. Just shut it down already and be done with it. Remove local?
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2920	Posted - 2015.05.22 08:39:38 - [33] - Quote Quazal Atreides wrote: and nope before the trolls i have not been scammed etc, and am merely wondering what the line is between the scam and eula "falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player" It's not impersonation that is clear , however at what point are you a representative that is the thin line i have a hard time cracking down regarding this type of 'scam'.They are using your name to be 'a representative' of the legitamacy of their business in a way. This is one of those things where one petition will get a 'you're right tag' and the other will get a 'hell no tag'. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3102	Posted - 2015.05.22 08:46:59 - [34] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: SilentAsTheGrave wrote: Jita local channel is 100% lies. Just shut it down already and be done with it. Remove local? You necro'd a ten days old thread. Do you ever log in, so I can harass and grief you ingame ? If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. <===== I wished my bra was green as well - 1024x1024
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2920	Posted - 2015.05.22 08:52:38 - [35] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: SilentAsTheGrave wrote: Jita local channel is 100% lies. Just shut it down already and be done with it. Remove local? You necro'd a ten days old thread. Do you ever log in, so I can harass and grief you ingame ? Logging in is SO 2008 ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 192	Posted - 2015.05.22 09:10:19 - [36] - Quote The rules from CCP is in my opinion somewhat poorly written since its indirectly open for subjective interpretation.... 1. Exploits "a. Creates a character using a name that is misleading and causes others to believe he is a fair target, such as a non-player pirate or other NPC entity" That rule dont exclude or include misleading others to belive youre a another player, ergo the benefit of the doubt should favor the users..... and its should be directly illegal to impersonate other players. 6. Scamming "a. Illegally obtains items from another through use of an exploit or cheat method." To mislead others to aquire an item that gives you profitt thru "cheat" Methods, to cheat is to lie, mislead, hold back info... Ergo you exploit others lack of abilities to understand With use of cheat Methods. In subjective interpetation; its in violation of the rules. 7. misc: "g. Engages in griefplay tactics which may include, but are not limited to, market/courier exploits." This rule is counterdicting the other rules in view of subjective interpetation. The rules state that its against EVE rules to "scam" other players, but it allows players to scam other players... Also CCP dont state in the rules that its "absolute", ergo its open for interpetation... which gives the benefit of doubt to the offended player. On the otherhand, it can also be interpetated by scammers, due to the loopholes within the rules, to favor them... all due to the lack of being absolute. Quazal Atreides wrote: This is a question regarding the cross-over from scamming to breaking the rule on impersonation. Ok, Now impersonation is making yourself out to be someone else, however the old scam "give me x, and ill return x * 3" has been going ... well since the start :) But this got me to thinking that over the last 12 months the increase of the bots that say something like "Quazal Atreides sent 100m return 500m" etc... Curious how this is not using my name to fool others, Should this not fall under the impersonation or false representation of another player. I have no problems (and in my early days may have even) scammed a small bit, but when the bots are filing local with tripe like that it got me wondering about how impersonation / false representation lines up Now there are lies, lies and damn lies, but when someone is using my name to help them scam a player from cash that must surely be close if not cross the line? and nope before the trolls i have not been scammed etc, and am merely wondering what the line is between the scam and eula "falsely present yourself to be a representative of another player" is taken from eula are these scammers not saying that i am part of their scheme? For instance should a scammer use the veldmasters "chribba" name for example a new player might see it and think , oh chribba has done it so it must be cosha?
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3102	Posted - 2015.05.22 09:33:56 - [37] - Quote Just look at the monkeys jumping in like there's free bananas ... If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. <===== I wished my bra was green as well - 1024x1024
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2923	Posted - 2015.05.22 10:39:55 - [38] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: Just look at the monkeys jumping in like there's free bananas ... I'd rather have that pasta bolognese if you have some left ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3105	Posted - 2015.05.22 12:26:50 - [39] - Quote flakeys wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: Just look at the monkeys jumping in like there's free bananas ... I'd rather have that pasta bolognese if you have some left ... Sure ! Go make a thread about it and ask nicely. If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. Click! Read! Win!!!
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2925	Posted - 2015.05.22 12:56:06 - [40] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: flakeys wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: Just look at the monkeys jumping in like there's free bananas ... I'd rather have that pasta bolognese if you have some left ... Sure ! Go make a thread about it and ask nicely. That's what she said .... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3965	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:15:49 - [41] - Quote Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3106	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:26:11 - [42] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? When the ToS change came up back in 2013 I sidestepped my own no-alts- rule and made a char called Solstice Project's Alt to mock this stupidity. Nothing happened. The reason why it's not allowed to impersonate others simply is because of the gigantic mess one can create with that. The activity of "Making others look bad" ... ... can reach dimensions most people can't even comprehend. All my chars are clearly and easily identifyable as me. Am I now impersonating myself? Hi, I'm Sol ! My way of getting around the mess of anonymous alts, which I hate to the bone. You know what would be the best thing ever? More Projects. More Sols. I wouldn't petition a single one of them ! (as long as they stay within the rules, ignoring that one) If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. Click! Read! Win!!!
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 143	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:26:46 - [43] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? Its cuz of goons. Lol Seriously. Maybe someone has the link but im sure you can find it on google. Several years ago a Goon was scamming super sales. He went on the eveonline wiki and added his alts name to a list of like verified trusted 3rd party trade characters. He added his name to be a Chribba alt on the page too i think. All this on a website with the eveonline logo on it which created the problem cuz anyone looking at the page could mistake ccp as the ones that either updated the info or verified it. This is why we cant edit the wiki anymore and the crackdown on impersonation. He scammed billions and billions making people think/appear to be a verifed and trusted 3rd party trade alt of chribbas. He and some alts got permabanned and players refunded. Ccp lost **** cuz the website was ccp owned even tho it was a wiki freely able to be edited
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3106	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:27:25 - [44] - Quote flakeys wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: flakeys wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: Just look at the monkeys jumping in like there's free bananas ... I'd rather have that pasta bolognese if you have some left ... Sure ! Go make a thread about it and ask nicely. That's what she said .... Do it ! I dare you ! Or click the link in my sig and read ! If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. Click! Read! Win!!!
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 143	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:27:50 - [45] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? When the ToS change came up back in 2013 I sidestepped my own no-alts- rule and made a char called Solstice Project's Alt to mock this stupidity. Nothing happened. The reason why it's not allowed to impersonate others simply is because of the gigantic mess one can create with that. The activity of "Making others look bad" ... ... can reach dimensions most people can't even comprehend. All my chars are clearly and easily identifyable as me. Am I now impersonating myself? Hi, I'm Sol ! My way of getting around the mess of anonymous alts, which I hate to the bone. You know what would be the best thing ever? More Projects. More Sols. I wouldn't petition a single one of them ! (as long as they stay within the rules, ignoring that one) No it was specifically done cuz of the Goon scamming supers. Google "Goons get Eve Eula changed" or something like that
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 143	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:28:40 - [46] - Quote https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title
Dots State Protectorate Caldari State 74	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:33:47 - [47] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? Alex this is a misconception. The GM said that you can't impersonate yourself because this statement makes no logical sense. If you quote just her first statement it incorrectly seems like CCP is forbidding impersonating yourself. CCP is actually saying that it is impossible to do so. GM Grimmi wrote: You cannot impersonate yourself. ... Impersonating yourself does not follow good logic since you are yourself and that is not a violation of any policies we have. Original discussion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3634141#post3634141 "Blessing" from CCP Manifest: https://twitter.com/ccp_manifest/status/380720650064633858 everything is better with ß¦êß¦Æß¦ù-ó on it New Player Opportunities: a gallery
Solstice Punk Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 0	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:35:48 - [48] - Quote Hey ! Freckles are hot ! Everything's better with dots on it ! Everything would be SOOOO MUCH BETTER with you on me ! Be my future spacewife, woman !
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2928	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:36:05 - [49] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: flakeys wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: flakeys wrote: Eve Solecist wrote: Just look at the monkeys jumping in like there's free bananas ... I'd rather have that pasta bolognese if you have some left ... Sure ! Go make a thread about it and ask nicely. That's what she said .... Do it ! I dare you ! Or click the link in my sig and read ! I don't make silly threads , i make silly responses . We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Solstice Punk Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:37:21 - [50] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person.

Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 145	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:38:00 - [51] - Quote Solstice Punk wrote: Hey ! Freckles are hot ! Everything's better with dots on it ! Everything would be SOOOO MUCH BETTER with you on me ! Be my future spacewife, woman ! She just looks like a trashy ugly version on my hot self. TL; DR Im sexier
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 145	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:38:50 - [52] - Quote Solstice Punk wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person. Omfg i m sexy bro
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2928	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:41:43 - [53] - Quote Dots wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? Alex this is a misconception. The GM said that you can't impersonate yourself because this statement makes no logical sense. If you quote just her first statement it incorrectly seems like CCP is forbidding impersonating yourself. CCP is actually saying that it is impossible to do so. GM Grimmi wrote: You cannot impersonate yourself. ... Impersonating yourself does not follow good logic since you are yourself and that is not a violation of any policies we have. Original discussion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3634141#post3634141 "Blessing" from CCP Manifest: https://twitter.com/ccp_manifest/status/380720650064633858 We have alts in this game and how stupid that might be it was said in the thread by a CCP spokesman when they came up with this rule that you are forbidden to claim to be your main on your alt.So if i log in on an alt now and start a convo with you saying i am flakeys then technically i would be impersonating myself. Don't ask me why but it was mentioned by someone from CCP back then when someone asked about it.And no i am not going to dig into that thread looking for it , i remember that specific part because it was a giant mindfck for me . Offcourse it is CCP so generally the rules bend in any wich way the mood is of the guy handling your petition. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3106	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:42:01 - [54] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Hey ! Freckles are hot ! Everything's better with dots on it ! Everything would be SOOOO MUCH BETTER with you on me ! Be my future spacewife, woman ! She just looks like a trashy ugly version on my hot self. TL; DR Im sexier HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA ....... breathes in deeply ....... Oh my, I'm so sorry for being so insensiHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. Click! Read! Win!!!
flakeys Arkham Innovations 2928	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:45:17 - [55] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Hey ! Freckles are hot ! Everything's better with dots on it ! Everything would be SOOOO MUCH BETTER with you on me ! Be my future spacewife, woman ! She just looks like a trashy ugly version on my hot self. TL; DR Im sexier She actually looks like a more classy and relaxed version of you ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3966	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:56:28 - [56] - Quote Dots wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Does anyone know what's the rationale of the rule against impersonation? Why are we allowed to lie about everything except our alts? Some weird RL legal issue, maybe? Alex this is a misconception. The GM said that you can't impersonate yourself because this statement makes no logical sense. If you quote just her first statement it incorrectly seems like CCP is forbidding impersonating yourself. CCP is actually saying that it is impossible to do so. GM Grimmi wrote: You cannot impersonate yourself. ... Impersonating yourself does not follow good logic since you are yourself and that is not a violation of any policies we have. Original discussion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3634141#post3634141 "Blessing" from CCP Manifest: https://twitter.com/ccp_manifest/status/380720650064633858 Aye, thanks but actually I was wondering why I can't claim to be someone else, you or Sol for example. I read Carrie's link (thanks) but it still seems weird to me. That looks more like a case of abusing the Wiki (which is creative but yeah I guess not nice) with just a little bit of impersonation on the side. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3966	Posted - 2015.05.22 13:59:23 - [57] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person. Omfg i m sexy bro Meh I prefer Sol. You have zombie eyes and a terrible lipstick. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Eve Solecist Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD 3106	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:00:30 - [58] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person. Omfg i m sexy bro Meh I prefer Sol. You have zombie eyes and a terrible lipstick. Me ? If you think mass griefing in EVE ONLINE is a thing already ... ... then you better pray we don't actually start doing it ................. Click! Read! Win!!!
Solstice Punk Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 2	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:02:29 - [59] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person. Omfg i m sexy bro Meh I prefer Sol. You have zombie eyes and a terrible lipstick. Man thanks and all I honestly appreciate the compliment but that's ... ... how do I say it ...... ....... GAAA
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3966	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:04:19 - [60] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person. Omfg i m sexy bro Meh I prefer Sol. You have zombie eyes and a terrible lipstick. Me ? Yes I prefer you. The Punk looks pretty cool too but I'm more into boobies. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Solecist Punk Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 10	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:04:42 - [61] - Quote Eve Solecist wrote: Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Solstice Punk wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: https://www.themittani.com/features/scam-changed-tos?nopaging=1 "THE SCAM THAT CHANGED THE TOS" is the title Thank you, ugly person. Omfg i m sexy bro Meh I prefer Sol. You have zombie eyes and a terrible lipstick. Me ? *****, please. <----- Profile pic - 1024x1024
Solecist Punk Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 14	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:07:09 - [62] - Quote Sexy, obeying man wrote: Yes I prefer you. The Punk looks pretty cool too but I'm more into boobies. THE ERA OF PUNK ! TOO MANY POSTS IN THIS QUOTE ! <----- Profile pic - 1024x1024
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 3967	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:11:15 - [63] - Quote Solecist Punk wrote: Sexy, obeying man wrote: Yes I prefer you. The Punk looks pretty cool too but I'm more into boobies. THE ERA OF PUNK ! TOO MANY POSTS IN THIS QUOTE ! Carrie, look at this female Punk's lips: that is a good lipstick. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Solecist Punk Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 15	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:26:39 - [64] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Solecist Punk wrote: Sexy, obeying man wrote: Yes I prefer you. The Punk looks pretty cool too but I'm more into boobies. THE ERA OF PUNK ! TOO MANY POSTS IN THIS QUOTE ! Carrie, look at this female Punk's lips: that is a good lipstick. 500 Million ISK will get you ... ... a kiss of the softest lips in the cluster. Mine. ... a date with the SINGLE MOST HOTTEST BRUTOR LADY EVER ! ... a set of private pictures. ... a set of crosseye 3D pictures. And I grant you the right to spend time with me and do as I want you to do ! Fair deal, darling ! <----- Profile pic - 1024x1024
Dots State Protectorate Caldari State 81	Posted - 2015.05.22 14:30:17 - [65] - Quote Gully Alex Foyle wrote: Aye, thanks but actually I was wondering why I can't claim to be someone else, you or Sol for example. I read Carrie's link (thanks) but it still seems weird to me. That looks more like a case of abusing the Wiki (which is creative but yeah I guess not nice) with just a little bit of impersonation on the side. Don't you think this is a good rule? I'm sure Mr. Chribba would think so! Names are reputations built for years. It makes a lot of sense to protect what I think is the biggest attraction of the game, a reputation. flakeys wrote: We have alts in this game and how stupid that might be it was said in the thread by a CCP spokesman when they came up with this rule that you are forbidden to claim to be your main on your alt.So if i log in on an alt now and start a convo with you saying i am flakeys then technically i would be impersonating myself. I hope you know that as per GM Grimmi's words this is NOT against EULA. everything is better with ß¦êß¦Æß¦ù-ó on it New Player Opportunities: a gallery
Hiply Rustic Aliastra Gallente Federation 275	Posted - 2015.05.22 16:53:31 - [66] - Quote I don't mind a good scam, at all, but all bots should die in a fire. *Ralph King-Griffin wrote: "Eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied."* *EvE: Only the strong-willied need apply.*
Hengle Teron Just Another Corp XIV 51647	Posted - 2015.05.22 18:08:22 - [67] - Quote TIL using macros and/or copypaste is botting.
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant randomly named no tax corp v2 48	Posted - 2015.05.22 18:25:54 - [68] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Judging by the fact that the sentences they spam are long, and are repeated exactly (other than the name of the supposed winner) from a pool of several choices, it's quite apparent that they are using chat macros to generate the spam. CCP isn't doing anything to curb the spam even though they're botting to generate it, so I doubt they'll do anything if you petition "impersonation." Worth a try, but don't hold your breath. They do get banned, but they just make new trial accounts and continue botting.


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