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Big BillyBob Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Big BillyBob on 02/11/2006 06:27:01 Edited by: Big BillyBob on 02/11/2006 06:24:42 I recently shelled out $100 to get my poster professionally framed. Here are a few pictures: Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3 There's only one problem. Here it is That is one of the major crease marks on my poster that almost ruins the whole thing. Its a big white line with an ugly scratch spot in the middle. It made me think twice about putting it in a frame, but I figured I could deal with it. So CCP, I have one question: why, oh WHY, did you FOLD the posters and not ROLL them? Rolling causes no crease marks, and I would have gladly paid a few extra dollars shipping fee to secure the condition of my poster. Is there any way I could purchase another copy without any faults like this? It seems such a waste of good art. _________________________________
Victor Valka Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:22:00 - [2] Edited by: Victor Valka on 02/11/2006 06:25:09 Edited by: Victor Valka on 02/11/2006 06:22:55 Put the actual URL in "".
Rayvonuk	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:24:00 - [3] ul dude. :(
Big BillyBob Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:25:00 - [4] Yeah forgot to preview and noticed it was all crazy and stuff. Fixed so lazy people can just click and view. _________________________________
Victor Valka Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:26:00 - [5] You lost the thread title, now.
Big BillyBob Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:28:00 - [6] I'm feeling VERY old right about now... /me goes to bed _________________________________
Dragon Sworn DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:52:00 - [7] yeah I have the same things on my poster so I haven't put it on the wall just because of those awfull marks ------
JForce The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:00:00 - [8] This is exactly the reason I didn't get mine framed. I would love to be able to buy an uncreased one.
Dufas Amarr Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:09:00 - [9] same here...i opened it up and was like YAY \0/ ... then saw the huge crease mark on it and was like booooo /0\ it totally ruins the poster __________
Matikus	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:27:00 - [10] That REALLY sucks but is good to know cause now I'm definately not gonna buy one if their not rolled. CCP should take note of this thread...
Big BillyBob Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.02 13:47:00 - [11] I know, its a **** shame. I'd be willing to pay for another one considering this one was free, but I can only hope they make more and PROPERLY package them. Folding is BAD Mmkay CCP? _________________________________
Benco97 Gallente Fedo Appreciation Group	Posted - 2006.11.02 13:50:00 - [12] YEOWCH, Bad CCP, Naughty! Frankly those who have paid for their posters should get replacements (free would be nice but maybe pay P&P again) Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (FAG) and Registered Fedo breeder (Sig kindly supplied by Zurtur)
Caleb Paine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:06:00 - [13] That's very uncool, it's also very avoidable. Seems the person(s) in charge of that wasn't paying attention much. -------------------------------- ISS Navy Task Force; Protecting your interest.
Gaiam Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:06:00 - [14] thats totally unacceptable, i can see it was folded into thirds, and then folded horizontal in half. did they mail this to you in a business size envelope???!!? i can see the other vertical crease line easily and it looks like there is a horizontal crease line running through the pic too. not to make you feel bad about the line you notice yourself. folded posters are for 2 bit magazines. (import tuner, girly, retarded biker)
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:11:00 - [15] Demand your money back. Not for the magazine of course, that arrived in pristine condition like mine I presume? But demand a refund on the poster. ---------- IBTL \o/
DukDodgerz Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:22:00 - [16] totally unprofessional of CCP. Demand your money back + cost of shipping the DEFECTIVE poster back to them.

kieron	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:27:00 - [17] If you are talking about the Iron Tide poster that came with E-ON #5, that was a promotion from the E-ON guys. CCP had no control over the manner in which it was shipped. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

Tehyarec Silverleaf Foundation	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:28:00 - [18] Edited by: Tehyarec on 02/11/2006 14:29:40 Posting photopaper posters as folded? No offense but that's retarded. If someone folded my photo prints I order I'd stick the person responsible out of the airlock. Or something No point in a high-quality poster on photopaper (as you say it's from CCP, I guess it's on photopaper like the rest of 'em... but I don't see Iron Tide in the shop, and it's made by a player right? So dunno) if you ruin it by folding. EDIT: Ah, from E-ON? Well, still, if it's photopaper, never ever fold it.
Benco97 Gallente Fedo Appreciation Group	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:40:00 - [19] Originally by: kieron If you are talking about the Iron Tide poster that came with E-ON #5, that was a promotion from the E-ON guys. CCP had no control over the manner in which it was shipped. Ahh, in that case I take back the "Bad" you can keep the Naughty though, Ooh you naughty thing you Head of the Fedo Appreciation Group (FAG) and Registered Fedo breeder (Sig kindly supplied by Zurtur)
DeMundus The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:48:00 - [20] Those creases is my reason for not having it framed or on the wall Id love to order a decent copy that is shipped in a tube, means its rolled up instead. Abandon all hope But take care of teh cake!11 - Immy
clone 1 Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:00:00 - [21] Just curious, why are your images posed as mirror images? Just noticed that your image was a mirror image of the original Iron Tide, but then your desktop seems backwards too lol And yea, that crease would bug the hell out of me. Thats why I got my brother to print one out where he works-(A professional print shop) .. I consider myself very lucky
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:00:00 - [22] Mine came rolled :). I'm special :D. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Don West Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:07:00 - [23] Mine was not rolled, it was folded and had the same problem with holes where it was folded.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Don West Mine was not rolled, it was folded and had the same problem with holes where it was folded. Mine was only rolled because I helped with the creation of that magazine issue and had to have mine sent out separately (I get a free copy of the magazine). I do editorial work on the insider's guides. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Vanlade Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:19:00 - [25] Let us get the poster in digital format, so that those who wish to can have it printed and framed without defects. - Vanlade
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Vanlade Let us get the poster in digital format, so that those who wish to can have it printed and framed without defects. The poster originally CAME from a digital format. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Kylania Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.02 16:26:00 - [27] I've been meaning to get this framed myself, but you're right, the crease marks are a deal breaker. :( BillyBob, did your framers use a "dry press" i think it's called to flatten it first? There's also apparently some tricks they can do to "color in" the seam, but with so much details on the image I'm not sure that would be acceptable. Really, the best would be to release the full sized image file to print from, but that's up to the artist. :) Or heck, sell full sized prints! DeviantArt can do that. -- Lil Miner Newbie Skills Roadmap \| CCG Card Lookup
Winter Star Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals The Volition Cult	Posted - 2006.11.02 16:41:00 - [28] Edited by: Winter Star on 02/11/2006 16:42:36 $100 to get it framed but you couldn't take some decent photos? Alex Murtaza: Portfolio
Orchyre Minmatar OLE Mining Corp Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2006.11.02 16:45:00 - [29] Originally by: clone 1 Just curious, why are your images posed as mirror images? Just noticed that your image was a mirror image of the original Iron Tide, but then your desktop seems backwards too lol haha I noticed the exact same things, and was also wondering why they're mirrored. ____ http://eve-tribune.com/ - A weekly fan-run magazine.
Fedaykin Naib 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.02 20:47:00 - [30] So, Meridius sold his picture to E-ON? I hope so, cause that this is sweet and still my wallpaper on my laptop and desktop :P "Long Live the Fighters!"
Chupacabro	Posted - 2006.11.02 22:37:00 - [31] I have access to a 20 foot wide Inkjet printer that could print this out on photo paper and laminated. If there are enough interested I can see how much the total process will cost and will be able to sell the prints.
jamesw Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:16:00 - [32] Why is the poster image back to front??? Original -- NEW Vid: Domi For the Win!
Laocoon Veto.	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Chupacabro If there are enough interested I can see how much the total process will cost and will be able to sell the prints. Wts: copyright infringement lawsuit - Lao Veto. Corp
Bobby Ogata	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:20:00 - [34] Edited by: Bobby Ogata on 02/11/2006 23:20:14 Have you tried ironing it? I'm not joking, it's worked for me, gets rid of creases and fold marks in lots of posters!
JForce The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:21:00 - [35] Okay, so does anyone have access to a large, hi-res digital version, suitable for printing/framing/laminating etc?

Xicon	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:32:00 - [36] OK guys - Xicon here, from MMM Publishing. We produce and publish E-ON, which as you all know is the official EVE Online magazine. Now, hear me out here, and think carefully before shooting. First, CCP is not 'responsible' for your huge, free poster being folded. Second, the poster was free. Nobody paid any extra to get it. Third, every single magazine subscriber got one. Not just new subscribers, but every single one. There is no other publishing company in the world (as far as I know) who treats their customers that well. Fourth, a question. Would you guys prefer to not receive free posters, on the basis that they have to be folded and can not be rolled? Fifth, would you pay more for an anual, four-issue subscription if you knew that at some point in the year, it included a poster which was sent rolled in a tube, as a separate package? Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Ok, now please re-read carefully before shooting... Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #005 Now Shipping Issue #001 Back, by popular demand

Ainna Asu	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:36:00 - [37] owned?
Griefer Troll Troll Industries	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:42:00 - [38] Originally by: Xicon OK guys - Xicon here, from MMM Publishing. We produce and publish E-ON, which as you all know is the official EVE Online magazine. Now, hear me out here, and think carefully before shooting. First, CCP is not 'responsible' for your huge, free poster being folded. Second, the poster was free. Nobody paid any extra to get it. Third, every single magazine subscriber got one. Not just new subscribers, but every single one. There is no other publishing company in the world (as far as I know) who treats their customers that well. Fourth, a question. Would you guys prefer to not receive free posters, on the basis that they have to be folded and can not be rolled? Fifth, would you pay more for an anual, four-issue subscription if you knew that at some point in the year, it included a poster which was sent rolled in a tube, as a separate package? Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Ok, now please re-read carefully before shooting... I don't like your tone. It stinks.

Xicon	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:45:00 - [39] I don't like your tone. It stinks. In what way? I am trying to be helpful... Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #005 Now Shipping Issue #001 Back, by popular demand

Matrix Aran Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:48:00 - [40] Definately wouldn't mind the high gloss version if it was for sale in the Eve-O store. Even so I still love the free poster to bits and have had it framed, due back from the framers tommorow, to go alongside the ship comparison poster. ----
Hanns Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.02 23:52:00 - [41] Originally by: Xicon I don't like your tone. It stinks. In what way? I am trying to be helpful... ignore the nub, look at his corp and name, hes just being a retard. and the answer to most your questions is yes eve store poster plz, alos if you have any influence over whats for sale i nthe store plz get em to shake a leg with the scale models Originally by: Tuxford a new retribution bonus. +1 med slot per level
Savio Caldari Atomic Heroes Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:10:00 - [42] Originally by: Xicon Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Pretty please!!!!! with suger on the top!! . Need a Sign? Click Here
Dred'Pirate Jesus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:18:00 - [43] Originally by: Xicon OK guys - Xicon here, from MMM Publishing. We produce and publish E-ON, which as you all know is the official EVE Online magazine. Now, hear me out here, and think carefully before shooting. First, CCP is not 'responsible' for your huge, free poster being folded. Second, the poster was free. Nobody paid any extra to get it. Third, every single magazine subscriber got one. Not just new subscribers, but every single one. There is no other publishing company in the world (as far as I know) who treats their customers that well. Fourth, a question. Would you guys prefer to not receive free posters, on the basis that they have to be folded and can not be rolled? Fifth, would you pay more for an anual, four-issue subscription if you knew that at some point in the year, it included a poster which was sent rolled in a tube, as a separate package? Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Ok, now please re-read carefully before shooting... Just one suggestion.. In future issues you could maybe have a few extra posters made to mail to people in tube containers for a reasonable fee to compenstate MMM for the trouble? Add it to the magazine site as an option for subscribers so you could have an idea how many you would need.. Or even make it a subscription option like "Check this tab if you would like to be sent posters with your issue in a tube for $x.xx extra" You could even ship the mag in the same tube for extra cost efficiency.. [2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus"
F2C MaDMaXX London Transport Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:20:00 - [44] oooohh, yes, yes, the rolled poster on the thick ass paper with added glossy stuff, yes please! ______________________________________ Natural Selection Developer Sound FX
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:28:00 - [45] Of course you could always take the digital original posted on the forums to your nearest digital printer and just have them print you a copy. No reason that wouldn't work. -----------------------------------------------

Xorus Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:41:00 - [46] Trolling removed, we know you might be less than happy but there is no reason to insult members of the dev team, please keep it friendly :) --- Wanna Buy a Goat??- Tirg Member of the 'Kaemonn is My Hero' club Member of the "Immy's Bald Head Appreciation Society" Xorus is currenly off duty counting trees in Siberia. -Ivan K How much is that goaty in the window, baaa baaaa - Cortes (Secretary, Bald Head Appreciation Society) All your sig are belong to me - Tanis

Fedaykin Naib 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:43:00 - [47] Ya didnt answer my question! :P oh well, guess i could actually try contacting meridius in game :P "Long Live the Fighters!"
Agama Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.03 00:43:00 - [48] Edited by: Agama on 03/11/2006 00:45:28 Originally by: Xicon OK guys - Xicon here, from MMM Publishing. We produce and publish E-ON, which as you all know is the official EVE Online magazine. Now, hear me out here, and think carefully before shooting. First, CCP is not 'responsible' for your huge, free poster being folded. Second, the poster was free. Nobody paid any extra to get it. Third, every single magazine subscriber got one. Not just new subscribers, but every single one. There is no other publishing company in the world (as far as I know) who treats their customers that well. Fourth, a question. Would you guys prefer to not receive free posters, on the basis that they have to be folded and can not be rolled? Fifth, would you pay more for an anual, four-issue subscription if you knew that at some point in the year, it included a poster which was sent rolled in a tube, as a separate package? Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Ok, now please re-read carefully before shooting... No offence....but this is a cop out. I really dislike the whole tone of that response. In fact I am straight out offended. a) The mag is very expensive, so yes... I EXPECT to receive a good product. b) It gets posted in a plastic bag. Now every single issue I have received to date (I live in Australia) has always come through trashed. Is it that much to ask to have at least some decent packaging for international packages. Even a bit of cardboard on each side would be better than nothing. c) Personally the Iron Tide this was one of the reasons I signed up for a new subscription to the mag. I loved the pic and I was really looking forward to getting it. However, I might as well throw mine in the bin as it is trashed beyond saving. Its beyond the whole folding issue. Its got gashes, huge white marks along nearly every fold line and all sorts of scratches over it because of poor way it is sent out. Before the mags were mailed out there were many people asking to have the poster rolled and not one person was worried about paying more for this service. In this case it was just disregarded and the customers have been told to suck it up because it was free. As for myself... if the packaging process is not improved when my subscription comes around again I don't think I will order it again. I love the mag, but for the price tag that goes along with it I am really put out how trashed the mag is by the time it comes to Australia. It is just not acceptable. 'Death solves all problems- no man, no problem' J.V. Stalin, 1918
Ace Combat Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.03 01:29:00 - [49] Edited by: Ace Combat on 03/11/2006 01:31:32 Heres my EVE poster I won for competing in a certain poker tournament we are not allowed to talk about. Linkage It came rolled up nicley packaged in a cardboard tube, the only dents are done by my own fat fingers. Its kinda a nice poster, must get a frame some day. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember the old description for Caldari.. light and nimble ships my ass. :(
Imniskari Minmatar Red Brethren	Posted - 2006.11.03 01:38:00 - [50] I love that poster. Do you know where they bought it, or is it a custom job?
Zelorise Minmatar Torchwood Institute	Posted - 2006.11.03 01:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Xicon Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Bring it on!! definatly get me one of those!! Anyone who puts the time and effort to do anything with EVE should deserve praise 110% with out them there would be no eve. Because of them my life at home is hell because I try to play as much as possible and pictures hanging around the house would just put the icing on the cake. If this comes about maybe putting a few more different pictures in the eve store. The Dumber people think you are, The more surprised they are when you kill them!!
Kalixa Hihro	Posted - 2006.11.03 02:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Xicon Second, the poster was free. Nobody paid any extra to get it. Good point lol. I could see being upset if you paid 10 euros for it. Be that as it may, you guys should sell posters (sent properly of course 8). It seems like you'd have some customers ^_^ I'd buy a cool eve poster of a megathron, esp if it was in combat firing it's guns. -Kal /----------------------------------------------------------------------------------/ My opinion in no way represents that of my corp or anyone I am associated with, and is probably entirely wrong.
Helen Baque Gallente Baque Industries	Posted - 2006.11.03 02:25:00 - [53] Originally by: Xicon Fifth, would you pay more for an anual, four-issue subscription if you knew that at some point in the year, it included a poster which was sent rolled in a tube, as a separate package? Put me down as a definite yes. And don't let the bad apples get you down, E-ON is a great magazine, and adding a free bonus was very cool of you guys. -- I already have a girlfriend. Her name is EVE. ;-)
Enotz Amarr Terminus Est Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.03 03:04:00 - [54] Quote: Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Hell yes. Release awesome eve posters, sell in store, roll in tubes. My walls are kinda bare anyway ^_^
Tekka Caldari Dark Cartel	Posted - 2006.11.03 03:17:00 - [55] Edited by: Tekka on 03/11/2006 03:21:28 Haha, well I'm getting one with no creases in it <3 Meri »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.03 03:22:00 - [56] Personally I liked the suggestion about a checkbox for a 'rolled' vs. free folded item. If I would have known that it was coming with fold lines, I would have taken the digital download, 'rolled' over to kinkos and had it printed. I appreciate that it was free, but I was looking forward to framing it, and the folded poster fails the 'view' test because of those fold lines. Not complaining here, but informing and suggesting what I, as a subscriber would prefer to see. Updated Linux Desktop+EVE+EVE-TV
Big BillyBob Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.03 05:19:00 - [57] Okay, some people have taken this out of my proportion. First, because so many people wondered, I know the pictures are backwards. I snapped the shots with my webcam and forgot I had it set to reverse. Second, although I DID state this, I knew the poster was free and didn't expect any reimbursement/replacement. It's free. That's like asking a store manager to refund the air you breathe just because you think it smells funny. I would like to BUY another one. Quote: i can see the other vertical crease line easily and it looks like there is a horizontal crease line running through the pic too. not to make you feel bad about the line you notice yourself. There is a large horizontal line, but it isn't the one that bothers me. At least it still has its color. And yes, it did come in an envelope with the magazine. Quote: BillyBob, did your framers use a "dry press" i think it's called to flatten it first? There's also apparently some tricks they can do to "color in" the seam, but with so much details on the image I'm not sure that would be acceptable. Yes they dry pressed it, and that worked wonders to smooth it out. The non-abrasion crease marks actually smoothed out to the point that I barely notice them. The company I went to didn't have this color fill-in avaliable, and I doubt it would have helped unless they had the digital source. If it had worked it would have been more than acceptable though. Quote: $100 to get it framed but you couldn't take some decent photos? Bite me. Thats all I have to say to you and, quite frankly, you didn't even deserve that reply. Smartass. Quote: Have you tried ironing it? I'm not joking, it's worked for me, gets rid of creases and fold marks in lots of posters! That was not the issue here. The creases have been flattened no problem, it is the abrasion marks left behind (rubs off the ink and/or tears/stretches the paper) that cannot be fixed. Quote: Fourth, a question. Would you guys prefer to not receive free posters, on the basis that they have to be folded and can not be rolled? Personally no, but if the resources could be better spent on the below choices, then yes. Please read that carefully. Quote: Fifth, would you pay more for an anual, four-issue subscription if you knew that at some point in the year, it included a poster which was sent rolled in a tube, as a separate package? Yes. Quote: Sixth, would you like to see the Iron Tide poster in the EVE store? Printed on 200gsm Gloss Art stock, and mailed rolled in a strong tube? (I guess I know the answer to that one). Oh my god yes. I'm happy to see this got more than the attention and response I had hoped it would. I was just posting in the hopes that future poster items would recieve some different form of treatment so all of eve can enjoy them the way they are supposed to be enjoyed. I deeply appreciate you guy's devotion to your community, I only aimed to help you understand how to make it that much nicer. BTW my magazine was in pristine condition so thank you for that! _________________________________
Meridius Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.03 05:42:00 - [58] Originally by: Big BillyBob First, because so many people wondered, I know the pictures are backwards. I snapped the shots with my webcam and forgot I had it set to reverse. Was wondering about that, a working version of IT was reversed like that - _____
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.03 05:51:00 - [59] Originally by: Ace Combat Edited by: Ace Combat on 03/11/2006 01:31:32 Heres my EVE poster I won for competing in a certain poker tournament we are not allowed to talk about. Linkage It came rolled up nicley packaged in a cardboard tube, the only dents are done by my own fat fingers. Its kinda a nice poster, must get a frame some day. Why is stuff like this not available in the EVE Store? CCP, you do realize you are sitting on a gold mine, right? We're all sheep and if you make it, we will buy it!! - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Winter Star Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals The Volition Cult	Posted - 2006.11.03 08:46:00 - [60] Originally by: Big BillyBob Quote: $100 to get it framed but you couldn't take some decent photos? Bite me. Thats all I have to say to you and, quite frankly, you didn't even deserve that reply. Smartass. /quote] Actually I also linked you directly to the artists work..... in case anyone wanted to try contacting him directly...

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