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ChronoSphere Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.13 20:28:00 - [91] Originally by: Rugs Here's the thing, we may have lost a battle last night, then again it doesn't matter because we all have replacements for what we fly and have no problem getting new ones when needed. Checking the KB and oh, still leading even with the carrier loss which should tell something about your effort in this conflict. Then again, add your friends to it (VC, KoS etc etc) and suddenly the numbers doesn't look so good anymore eh? Can we expect a report from every battle here from you guys, sure looks like all 3 of them are here atm :) From the posts in this GalNet thread it seems that the consistant strategy of RONIN to attempt to spin their defeats into something else is to try to minimize the gravity of the losses they have been sustaining time and time again.\\ Originally by: Gius Adoma Also this is NPC space is it not? so pos's dont matter that much really Originally by: moroti You don't seem to understand that POS's aren't at all relevent in a fight where sovereignty is taken by an NPC faction And of course my personal favorite Originally by: Manc WE DON'T CARE ABOUT %&$ING POS'S These are the responses after RISE's systematic demolition of RONIN starbases throughout Outer Ring and Syndicate. And this is the response after we decimate their fleet and deprive them of a carrier. Originally by:* rugs Here's the thing, we may have lost a battle last night, then again it doesn't matter because we all have replacements for what we fly and have no problem getting new ones when needed. You have a limitless supply of carriers, I suppose? Just like you could just keep throwing up towers for us to knock down for you? Time and time again RONIN seeks to minimze how hard their losses really are. Its a continual pattern it seems, maybe of everyone toeing the party line on spin or maybe a pattern of denial. As for Ban Tier's comments Originally by: Ban Tier And @Whisk: These noobs have even no idea about tactics Are you so sure now? Or would you like to sacrifice more capital ships and another one of your Megathron's for RISE to shoot out from under you? --------- Lieutenant ChronoSphere, SGHQ Security Division Executive Officer, Battlegroup 2 - The Gunslingers "Aut Vincere Aut More"
Vallerian Gallente Gallente Kombinat	Posted - 2006.11.13 20:31:00 - [92] Edited by: Vallerian on 13/11/2006 20:48:55 Edited by: Vallerian on 13/11/2006 20:47:17 Edited by: Vallerian on 13/11/2006 20:32:19 Quote: Every operation where RONIN attemps to challenge us fails utterly; their false belief in thinking that they are a match for the military might of RISE cost them a carrier. How long will RONIN let this senseless fight continue? Dude...wheres that intel from? ^^ As far as I can remember we kicked your asses here and there and you also fled to 4c and docked...we also had good manners and waved good bye after waiting some time for you to come out and play...would have been so much fun... laugh But watching you guys pressing your little noses at the station windows was fun, too... giggle Don't sum things up like that...there are always good and bad times :) ~Val [**** typos...]
Zirator Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.13 21:25:00 - [93] Edited by: Zirator on 13/11/2006 21:26:54 Originally by: ChronoSphere Originally by: Rugs Here's the thing, we may have lost a battle last night, then again it doesn't matter because we all have replacements for what we fly and have no problem getting new ones when needed. Checking the KB and oh, still leading even with the carrier loss which should tell something about your effort in this conflict. Then again, add your friends to it (VC, KoS etc etc) and suddenly the numbers doesn't look so good anymore eh? Can we expect a report from every battle here from you guys, sure looks like all 3 of them are here atm :) From the posts in this GalNet thread it seems that the consistant strategy of RONIN to attempt to spin their defeats into something else is to try to minimize the gravity of the losses they have been sustaining time and time again.\\ From the posts in this Galnet thread it seems that the consistant strategy of the "minister of (mis)information" from the Rice alliance is to turn a won battle into a claim that they won the war.
Ban Tier Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.13 22:22:00 - [94] Originally by: ChronoSphere As for Ban Tier's comments Originally by: Ban Tier And @Whisk: These noobs have even no idea about tactics Are you so sure now? Or would you like to sacrifice more capital ships and another one of your Megathron's for RISE to shoot out from under you? We will use every ship what is needed to break your fine alliance of chickens. You can blob us, you will win some fights. But we will kill you on a daily basis. You will seen. And as long as you have not the balls to jump into one of our camps if we have equal numbers and guns, like we had tonight in P-N @ gate ZQP, I would really not post if I were you. You might call this ofc tactics, I call it cowards ... Hug stations with your carriers if you like, play the docking games, we will continue to search for your pilots and kill them, one by one. And we will risk our ships, cause that is the reason why we have build them. Even the capital ones. I know you can not understand this, many other ppl can ... Ban CEO Times of Ancar
Gius Adoma Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.13 22:30:00 - [95] Heh yeah where is RICE's victory today? Gang in ZQP of 20 odd and 12 VC friends in EF-F and us in P-N with 20 odd ships. And you wouldnt come out and play, except send that silly shuttle back and forth! Thats called chicken not tactics or being almighty at all. = Times of Ancar = < THE R0NIN >
Schneiderr Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.14 00:21:00 - [96] Originally by: Rugs Checking the KB and oh, still leading even with the carrier loss which should tell something about your effort in this conflict. Then again, add your friends to it (VC, KoS etc etc) and suddenly the numbers doesn't look so good anymore eh? so RISE, an alliance nearly 800 people strong needs another alliance Vertigo Coalition (around 200 people) and even one more alliance Knight of Syndicate (around 100 people) + some other corps to not even reach RONIN's (around 270 people) success when it comes to kill comparisons (with only RISE kills counted, not even calculated in the losses of all the others...)? simply that means nearly 1100 people cant manage to bring it on. i guess i am not the only one who thinks that something isnt right there eh? go on with trying to boost your moral, temporary residents of the outer ring, but this is a pretty poor picture and you know it - i had a good laugh tho. but at least you all seem to have some fun and this is what counts!
Kaylis Tzu Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.14 01:27:00 - [97] I was present at ZQP and as you stated you had equal numbers and yet RONIN did not attack. RONIN had a stronger fleet with more experience pilots and they did not engage us in ZQP. In fact, we began pursueing your 14 ship gang with our 8 man gang when you left D5I. You met up with a couple other guys and even though we had grown to 12 you still had us outnumbered by at least 4-5 ships and yet you never attacked. Strategy is all about dictating the battlefield and forcing your enemy to attack on your terms. We had no reason to go into EF- because friendly forces already had the system secured so unlike RONIN being forced to protect their "%#@% POS's" we had no reason to jump into a fleet with stonger numbers. We were weren't docked... We weren't hiding... We were in the system next to you with fewer and less skilled pilots, but on even ground you chose not to engage and instead to retreat to 3KNK and begin to dock and log... Ultimately, RONIN continues to whine about our forces not engaging when the RONIN blob comes into system while those same pilots laugh in local about how pointless it is for us to try to come after them because they will just dock and waste our time. (I can provide many local logs including today's from 3KNK where they joke about the same thing you try to dog us for) You don't hear us complaining that you don't have forces on for us to engage during our primetime. We don't call RONIN pilots noobs or all the assorted selection that you have displayed in this forum. We just continue to engage all available targets and systematically dismantle your ability to wage war during the 20 hours a day that your pilots rarely show their faces our space. Ohh, and to the friendly forces fighting with us. We welcome any forces who have been aggressed or displaced by RONIN to assist elimination of a common threat. Some of them where displaced by RONIN moving into EF and surrounding areas and simply want there home back and some are allies that RONIN has engaged before the RISE/RONIN conflict that have decided to assist us because we stood with them during their conflict. We don't need anyone to fight our battles but we will not turn away groups who see the threat of RONIN as an ubalancing force in the area. Keep spining the losses and explaining away your defeats to your membership. Killboards don't reflect the BILLIONS of losses that RONIN has sustained in destroyed POS's or loss of high-end moon minerals. From RONIN's boards... RONIN have caused 3.8 billion in losses to RISE while sustaining 3.4 billion in losses. This is 52% effectiveness... BUT include 3-5 billion in lost POS's and between 2-3 billion a week in lost moon mineral revenues and it's a different picture. RISE losses: 3.8 billion + 700 mil (2 small placeholder POS on ex-RONIN moons) = 4.5 billion RONIN losses: 3.4 bill (ships) + 4.2 bill (7 POS's) + 5.2 bill (conservative total) = 12.8 billion 4.5/17.3bil (total losses) = 26% RISE Senior Diplomat It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur
Saal Iverson 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.14 08:22:00 - [98] jesus. you lot still at it? This reminds me of 2 inbred twins trying to whack each other over the head with inflatable *****'s
Gius Adoma Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.14 08:54:00 - [99] dont forget all the VC losses to add to it! as you needed them to take down the big pos = Times of Ancar = < THE R0NIN >
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2006.11.14 10:59:00 - [100] Originally by: Gius Adoma dont forget all the VC losses to add to it! as you needed them to take down the big pos I'd imagine them to be VC losses, not RISE losses. \| BMBE ISK Loans \| Skills Showroom \| 599105 \|

Gius Adoma Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.14 14:19:00 - [101] That is true, but without VC our losses would be less also, so goes both ways! = Times of Ancar = < THE R0NIN >
Lyndin Honor Guard Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.14 15:53:00 - [102] Originally by: Schneiderr Originally by: Rugs Checking the KB and oh, still leading even with the carrier loss which should tell something about your effort in this conflict. Then again, add your friends to it (VC, KoS etc etc) and suddenly the numbers doesn't look so good anymore eh? so RISE, an alliance nearly 800 people strong needs another alliance Vertigo Coalition (around 200 people) and even one more alliance Knight of Syndicate (around 100 people) + some other corps to not even reach RONIN's (around 270 people) success when it comes to kill comparisons (with only RISE kills counted, not even calculated in the losses of all the others...)? simply that means nearly 1100 people cant manage to bring it on. i guess i am not the only one who thinks that something isnt right there eh? go on with trying to boost your moral, temporary residents of the outer ring, but this is a pretty poor picture and you know it - i had a good laugh tho. but at least you all seem to have some fun and this is what counts! Friends help Friends :) Throught you of all people, from D2, would understand about that. Meaning Razor/D2/Morsus Mihi/ etc all help each other. Anyways nothing to do with me. Keeping out of this now. CEO Honor Guard Inc <3
Kaylis Tzu Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.14 20:46:00 - [103] Edited by: Kaylis Tzu on 14/11/2006 20:47:15 Originally by: Gius Adoma That is true, but without VC our losses would be less also, so goes both ways! Ask and ye shall receive... Let's add them... Even though: 1. They are their own entity acting independently and were under attack by Chon and friends prior to the RISE/Ronin conflict. 2. They did not have more than 10 of the 100 ships during the D5IW assault and although we welcomed their assistance it would be safe to assume that RISE would have still destroyed the POS with the 80+ BS and support and 10 CAP ships even if VC hadn't been there. 3. The other 6 POS's we have destroyed have not involved VC's forces(outside of 1 or 2 who came to watch the fireworks). RISE + VC losses: 3.8 billion (RISE since 10/20) + 700 mil (2 small placeholder POS on ex-RONIN moons) + 1.5 billion (VC since 10/01)= 6 billion RONIN losses: 3.4 bill (ships) + 4.2 bill (7 POS's) + 5.2 bill (conservative total) + 500 mil (VC kills) = 13.3 billion 6 bil/19.3 bil (total losses) = 31% So... Although 31% is better than 26% I doubt that this stat is really what you were hoping to prove you point with. (PS. Let's not forget those pilots and outside groups that RONIN has flying with and assisting them too. We don't fault you for it, but let's not pretend that we don't all welcome friendly assistance when available.) RISE Senior Diplomat It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. Douglas MacArthur
PreTender Amarr R0NIN Industrial THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.14 22:40:00 - [104] Edited by: PreTender on 14/11/2006 22:40:28 Quote: 5.2 bill (conservative total hmm right ok lets add some numbers to our side then because of the long waiting time in 3knk and other systems we where forced to shoot some npc's at the gate wich could be shot by rise members if they where present. This results in atleast 1-2bil in bounties lost to rise since they did not kill the rats. We also have people stripmining nm-oea wich results in atleast 5bil isk losses a week to rise because they cant mine the crokite. __________________________ http://www.eve-extra.com http://www.eve-wiki.net
PreTender Amarr R0NIN Industrial THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.14 23:02:00 - [105] Edited by: PreTender on 14/11/2006 23:05:36 __________________________ http://www.eve-extra.com http://www.eve-wiki.net
Hull Cleaver Caldari Mala Fide Corp	Posted - 2006.11.15 00:24:00 - [106] Edited by: Hull Cleaver on 15/11/2006 00:27:12 Its been a while since I looked at this post and I can see why. Its hard to believe two groups of people that have known each other for so long have reduced themselves to such a petty bunch of squabbling and crying. I have been a bystander for weeks during both the Toxin invasion and the conflict with YouWhat. I have watched the RISE guys (before Chon left) as My corp was in their employee as scouts. I think it is unfortunate that the differences were so great that it cause the parties to go their different ways. Had you been able to work things out it would have been a lucrative venture for all involved. I wanted to point out that prior to Ronnin, I personally never saw dreads or capital ships undocked in defense of the alliance. We were present at all major actions and it just didnt happen. This seems to be the biggest issue I have heard when talking with the troops that remained in RISE. From the other side of the fence, I am concerned that Ronnin may have a legitimate beef if in fact there was a break in contractual agreements issued by RISE. My biggest concern right now is the little guys involved in this. I was told that the pockets of Ronnin ran very deep from all the billions of isk in moon minerals, yet there seems to be descention in the ranks from the little guys and new recruits because the conflict has nearly broke their banks. Many don't go to skirmish because they only have one decent ship left and need it for ratting...I believe this may stand true from both sides. I wouldnt mind seeing the group reform into a super power sometime soon. Both sides have displayed good strategies, initiative and will to keep the area controlled. Perhaps life would be better if you did it together and get your lower ranked guys out there making money instead of camping gates. Commander HullCleaver Mala Fide CEO
Arraka CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.15 09:55:00 - [107] Originally by: ChronoSphere RONIN's pilots know this - they know how badly they have suffered during this conflict, know the inevability of the outcome, know the resolve, the strength and skill of RISE's pilots and leaders, the organization, and the strength of the oiled war machine that RISE has become. It is only a matter of time gentlemen. I didn't know this, thanks for telling. ***, I need better intel. trembles in fear from TEH oiled war machine* Originally by: PreTender Quote: 5.2 bill (conservative total hmm right ok lets add some numbers to our side then because of the long waiting time in 3knk and other systems we where forced to shoot some npc's at the gate wich could be shot by rise members if they where present. This results in atleast 1-2bil in bounties lost to rise since they did not kill the rats. We also have people stripmining nm-oea wich results in atleast 5bil isk losses a week to rise because they cant mine the crokite. I would also add 10-20bil ego damage dealt by G by abusing Vache's corpse. So we are back again on 70% efficiency :).
vache Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.15 10:55:00 - [108] Edited by: vache on 15/11/2006 10:55:23 Originally by: Arraka Originally by: ChronoSphere RONIN's pilots know this - they know how badly they have suffered during this conflict, know the inevability of the outcome, know the resolve, the strength and skill of RISE's pilots and leaders, the organization, and the strength of the oiled war machine that RISE has become. It is only a matter of time gentlemen. I didn't know this, thanks for telling. ***, I need better intel. trembles in fear from TEH oiled war machine* Originally by: PreTender Yes, you do need better intel amigo. As for fearing the well oiled war machine....you need not fear it since your demise is inevitable anyway. Quote: 5.2 bill (conservative total hmm right ok lets add some numbers to our side then because of the long waiting time in 3knk and other systems we where forced to shoot some npc's at the gate wich could be shot by rise members if they where present. This results in atleast 1-2bil in bounties lost to rise since they did not kill the rats. We also have people stripmining nm-oea wich results in atleast 5bil isk losses a week to rise because they cant mine the crokite. I would also add 10-20bil ego damage dealt by G by abusing Vache's corpse. So we are back again on 70% efficiency :). Well, he'd have to abuse a corpse since thats the only way he's gonna get any :P Iirc it was manc that killed me? Not G. Come on G, still waiting for ya On a final note, i'd like to say that i see this situation as utterly disgusting. The extent to which "The Ronny" have lowerd themselves in recent times is beneath them all. I, along with the entirety of the Rise command team do not hold this against their general membership.We know their acts of ill-taste and bad manner to be the result of misguided and dillusional leadership from Ban Tier, Shivaja and G. When the dawn breaks, and the membership of the aforementioned alliance realises its leaders are leading them to doom, Rise will, as we have done before, offer amnesty to those who wish to leave and go elsewhere. For those who wish to remain with "The Ronny", you will continue to the force of our flood waters beat against the walls of your fort. It is only a short matter of time untill you have been washed away with nothing to show for your suffering. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Vache REZ - Director of Operations. RISE - Minister of External Affairs.
WiZZyWiGG Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.15 14:21:00 - [109] I must say that im glad to see the battle hardened pilots of old NORAD finally creating an alliance for the sole purpose of killing stuff rather than doing the whole goody two shoes alliance thing again, as we all know this leads to nothing in the long run. Hopefully good fights are being had by all, not heard too many good things about Rise so far so hopefully they can try harder ____________ BNC makes me feel Naughty
Arwen Atreides CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.15 18:53:00 - [110] This galnet channel is quickly becomming tiresome. Nothing has ever been gained from this pointless sandbox chatter: "I shot you!!" "No you didn't, I have my uber blob shields" "Oh yeah?? My super uber anti-blob galnet propaganda will make everyone forget reality!!" What matters is action, not the pointless 'official statements' and arguing about numbers. We will all know the reality of this conflict by fighting it through and seeing who has the will to keep fighting in the end. I don't think RISE or RONIN can claim to have reached that point yet, nor can either dismiss the continued ability of both sides to do damage. Lets keep this on the battlefield where it belongs. -

LoKesh Amarr InQuest Ascension Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.15 22:29:00 - [111] Originally by: Gius Adoma dont forget all the VC losses to add to it! as you needed them to take down the big pos I haven't yet seen a good tally of the VC versus R0nin kills. Our killboard is lacking things I've seen happen (due to some IP issues) and the R0nin one (although a very good attempt at being truthful) is also missing some notable kills. That being said - Many of the larger VC losses happened early in the conflict and have since dropped off. And now that someone finally mentioned lost POS profits... you should consider how much time your towers spent not mining due to VC assaults. Loss of future profits/interruption of supply lines is what wins wars. With a group like R0nin, that seems to be rather rich we won't see the effect immediately, but we will see it.
Galdoth BIG Advanced Assault R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.16 07:47:00 - [112] Originally by: Arwen Atreides This galnet channel is quickly becomming tiresome. Nothing has ever been gained from this pointless sandbox chatter: "I shot you!!" "No you didn't, I have my uber blob shields" "Oh yeah?? My super uber anti-blob galnet propaganda will make everyone forget reality!!" What matters is action, not the pointless 'official statements' and arguing about numbers. We will all know the reality of this conflict by fighting it through and seeing who has the will to keep fighting in the end. I don't think RISE or RONIN can claim to have reached that point yet, nor can either dismiss the continued ability of both sides to do damage. Lets keep this on the battlefield where it belongs. signed /..
Earthan Gallente The Amazing Fire Eaters	Posted - 2006.11.16 11:59:00 - [113] Im not part of ronin so i realyl odnt know much but to these replies.. Yes i think ronin looses some isk due to the poses losses, but remmber guys bob, smash+goons, and imperium all had major fleet dominance and killed Norad poses. and it didnt matter in end.Its all about will to stay in the region. And remmber you guys also loose tons of isk not being able to mine in nm not being able to npc in many systems being all time on war scrmble alert, so these speculations are really very unprecise. Yuo fight, we fight, we will see. - A knight in space,war veteran. The Amazing Fire Eaters webpage
Valandril Caldari Eve guardians Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.18 13:57:00 - [114] Originally by: Earthan IAnd remmber you guys also loose tons of isk not being able to mine in nm not being able to npc in many systems being all time on war scrmble alert, so these speculations are really very unprecise. Yuo fight, we fight, we will see. Its interesting because both, galko and ronin states that they DON'T need to do npcing, mining. And then i see them trying to rat in ef pocket with at least 2wcses fited... Pro ?
Haloe Minmatar Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.18 16:07:00 - [115] Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Earthan IAnd remmber you guys also loose tons of isk not being able to mine in nm not being able to npc in many systems being all time on war scrmble alert, so these speculations are really very unprecise. Yuo fight, we fight, we will see. Its interesting because both, galko and ronin states that they DON'T need to do npcing, mining. And then i see them trying to rat in ef pocket with at least 2wcses fited... Pro ? Your emphasis was perhaps off: 'don't NEED' as opposed to 'DON'T need'. At least, once I sorted through your random comma placements, that's what I surmised. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Valandril Caldari Eve guardians Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:45:00 - [116] Edited by: Valandril on 18/11/2006 18:46:09 Originally by: Haloe Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Earthan IAnd remmber you guys also loose tons of isk not being able to mine in nm not being able to npc in many systems being all time on war scrmble alert, so these speculations are really very unprecise. Yuo fight, we fight, we will see. Its interesting because both, galko and ronin states that they DON'T need to do npcing, mining. And then i see them trying to rat in ef pocket with at least 2wcses fited... Pro ? Your emphasis was perhaps off: 'don't NEED' as opposed to 'DON'T need'. At least, once I sorted through your random comma placements, that's what I surmised. Thanks for explaning what is purpose of ratting when you don't need money. For sure you are not looking for fight, unless u always pvp with wcses (what is pretty common in ronin ships).
Shyra Storm Gallente Kombinat	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:19:00 - [117] @Vala, first, YOU don't see anything, because you never get out of the station! Second, where you "see" any WCS of any warships? Third, where have GALKO announce that we don't need to mine/hunting/mission? 4th, EVE G ist only talking, never fighting. So I don't understand what EVE G wants in upper sydicate/outer ring? http://pietschmann.it/tmp/footer/gfooter.php/3/Shyra%20Storm/gfooter.png Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Valandril Caldari Eve guardians Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:52:00 - [118] Originally by: Shyra Storm @Vala, first, YOU don't see anything, because you never get out of the station! Second, where you "see" any WCS of any warships? Third, where have GALKO announce that we don't need to mine/hunting/mission? 4th, EVE G ist only talking, never fighting. So I don't understand what EVE G wants in upper sydicate/outer ring? Hmm if we don't fight, we only talk, from where that came from Quote: 2006.11.18 00:36 Victim: mistysteel Alliance: None Corp: Gallente Kombinat Destroyed: Megathron System: C0T-77 Security: 0.0 Quote: 2006.11.18 00:30 Victim: Lachschlappen Alliance: None Corp: Gallente Kombinat Destroyed: Ishkur System: C0T-77 Security: 0.0 Thats from yday, i think its nice for "we only talk" corp.Also about me all time in station, lets make you mini rpg game =D You are undocking, u notice 2xraven, u are in dominix. What you do ? 1. Dock 2. Engage them 3. Logout About wcs, 2 time ur ratters runned me after scrambling, shoot me if i remember names. Cheers =D
Shyra Storm Gallente Kombinat	Posted - 2006.11.18 23:51:00 - [119] Wow, two kills! And how many losses? http://pietschmann.it/tmp/footer/gfooter.php/3/Shyra%20Storm/gfooter.png Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Rugs Yakuza Corp THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.11.18 23:54:00 - [120] Originally by: Valandril Originally by: Shyra Storm @Vala, first, YOU don't see anything, because you never get out of the station! Second, where you "see" any WCS of any warships? Third, where have GALKO announce that we don't need to mine/hunting/mission? 4th, EVE G ist only talking, never fighting. So I don't understand what EVE G wants in upper sydicate/outer ring? Hmm if we don't fight, we only talk, from where that came from Quote: 2006.11.18 00:36 Victim: mistysteel Alliance: None Corp: Gallente Kombinat Destroyed: Megathron System: C0T-77 Security: 0.0 Quote: 2006.11.18 00:30 Victim: Lachschlappen Alliance: None Corp: Gallente Kombinat Destroyed: Ishkur System: C0T-77 Security: 0.0 Thats from yday, i think its nice for "we only talk" corp.Also about me all time in station, lets make you mini rpg game =D You are undocking, u notice 2xraven, u are in dominix. What you do ? 1. Dock 2. Engage them 3. Logout About wcs, 2 time ur ratters runned me after scrambling, shoot me if i remember names. Cheers =D Dude you can fit your whole PvP career in one reply in this thread, that should tell a lot about you... Please show me where i've had WCS on my combat ships, can't wait.



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