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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2015.08.09 02:33:45 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:The big alliances have stabilized and blueballed because they don't want to lose a ludicrous amount of very shiny, expensive things. Unless something comes along to change the balance of power (mole), that's not going to change. Easy, just nerf all the things related to having sov, and make it really easy to troll (ie: fiendishly painful to hold) eg: make it so anyone can attack sov with say a really fast interdiction nullified frigate or something, can't get much easier than that
Why does that sound so familiar....hmmmm...
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2015.08.09 04:28:15 -
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There's a lot more to it than that.
Question: "How miserable can [this group] make our lives we go smash-and-grab on it?" If the answer to that is "Very miserable", the strategically correct answer is to not poke it. That's why blueballing, that's why nobody wants to mess with the big corps. Nobody wants a blob of enemy caps on their doorstep, including the other big corps-especially the other big corps. Nobody still standing anyway, and there's a very good reason they aren't still standing, and most aggressive PvP is done on alts.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
572
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Posted - 2015.08.09 04:59:29 -
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Right so this threadnaught is still kicking.
Would it be game-breaking/hilariously abusable to bring insurance for T2/T3/faction hulls into line with T1?
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
14015
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Posted - 2015.08.09 05:21:22 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Right so this threadnaught is still kicking.
Would it be game-breaking/hilariously abusable to bring insurance for T2/T3/faction hulls into line with T1?
It really would. Insurance causes more problems than it solves, it's one of the major reasons why inflation has been so bad the past few years.
I'd rather solve that, and focus on rebalancing non isk sources of personal income, than wildly buff insurance.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6756
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Posted - 2015.08.09 05:48:11 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Would it be game-breaking/hilariously abusable to bring insurance for T2/T3/faction hulls into line with T1? We definitely need more trollceptors and uncatchable Tengus etc
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
250
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:35:05 -
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I don't want to imagine what this would do to the Eve economy. And I seriously doubt it'd increase PvP substantially. I rarely feel I want to PvP and doubt it would massively increase without the ISK risk. Even if I yolo'd possibly once or twice. People who want to PVP do that already and many don't want to have embarrassing stats on killboards. My guess volume of fights would remain the same whereas inflation wouldn't. |

Max Fubarticus
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.09 14:44:42 -
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Yes, I am risk averse.
I log in and undock when I want, not when others tell me to. I am risk averse.
I don't insure my ships, I don't care to waste isk on some game mechanic that "I think" is useless. I am risk averse.
I engage and press F1 when I have assessed the situation and have convinced myself that I will defeat the opponent. If I am successful then good, if not... learn from mistakes. I am risk averse.
My accounts I sub with my money, I will undock when I want, fly what I want, fit the way I want, and fight when I want. Could care less what other adolescent knuckle dragging F1 monkeys think. I am risk averse.
Risk averse? you can bet on it! Reward averse, don't hold your breathe!
Next topic please 
Yes, I am risk averse. |

Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
573
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:02:45 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Right so this threadnaught is still kicking.
Would it be game-breaking/hilariously abusable to bring insurance for T2/T3/faction hulls into line with T1?
It really would. Insurance causes more problems than it solves, it's one of the major reasons why inflation has been so bad the past few years. I'd rather solve that, and focus on rebalancing non isk sources of personal income, than wildly buff insurance.
What is a non-ISK source of personal income?
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
3203
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:05:35 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Right so this threadnaught is still kicking.
Would it be game-breaking/hilariously abusable to bring insurance for T2/T3/faction hulls into line with T1?
It really would. Insurance causes more problems than it solves, it's one of the major reasons why inflation has been so bad the past few years. I'd rather solve that, and focus on rebalancing non isk sources of personal income, than wildly buff insurance. What is a non-ISK source of personal income?
I read it as new isk entering the New Eden economy vs. selling in game items for ISK that is already in the economy. Generally speaking the first is inflationary, the second is not.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
573
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:06:23 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Would it be game-breaking/hilariously abusable to bring insurance for T2/T3/faction hulls into line with T1? We definitely need more trollceptors and uncatchable Tengus etc
Well interceptors are so cheap that it doesn't really matter. Those are going to be a thing as long as they can do the entosis thing. My knowledge/interest in sov null affairs is limited but I know there's a separate threadnaught on the merits of Fozzie sov and entosis trolling.
As for uncatchable Tengus; your AFK-tar fit can perma-tank them so I'd think you would welcome more content in the dark misery of Deklein.
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Pah Cova
Made in Portugal S.A.
19
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Posted - 2015.08.10 00:44:42 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:I would like to have a constructive dialog around what can be done to combat risk-aversion in our pvp pilots in New Eden. What I observe is that we regularly decry risk-aversion and others unwillingness to undock and bring a fight, while on the other hand refusing to confront the elephant in the room when it comes to root cause... Ship replacement insurance. Please consider this, and provide constructive feedback. F
Even if the ship insurance covers the loss, i-¦m pretty sure that they not undock either, you want to know why? It-¦s not risk aversion, That guys dont want to pvp, they just want to mine, build, explore but they dont care about pvp at all. When pvpers are going to accept that? Are you going to mine? Sure not, its boring, well they say the same from pvp and worst... it does not give isks. Guess people have to respect others gamestyle, everybody in game can do whatever they want with their own accounts, its their accounts and they pay for them, so please respect others. Find another target that want a fight... |

Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2015.10.16 10:27:52 -
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Hey guys. I'm trying to buy Recon amd HAC skillbooks. They are like 35mill each. Can someone help me out please and bum be a small bit of isk to help afford these skillboaks so I can start their long trains to 5? Thank you very much |

Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
357
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:06:20 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hey guys. I'm trying to buy Recon amd HAC skillbooks. They are like 35mill each. Can someone help me out please and bum be a small bit of isk to help afford these skillboaks so I can start their long trains to 5? Thank you very much ? Don't bum on the forums. It's such bad form....oh, sorry...it's YOU.
Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
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Paranoid Loyd
7208
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Posted - 2015.10.16 21:08:16 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hey guys. I'm trying to buy Recon amd HAC skillbooks. They are like 35mill each. Can someone help me out please and bum be a small bit of isk to help afford these skillboaks so I can start their long trains to 5? Thank you very much You just posted a thread offering two plex and you can't even afford to buy 70 mil worth of skill books?
Shut up Carrie.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Kitty Bear
Harbingers of Chaos Inc Gentlemen's.Club
1527
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Posted - 2015.10.17 08:59:36 -
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I always thought SRP's encouraged participation, after all if the ship you lose will be replaced then you aren't in fact losing anything.
The loss and subsequent replacement also drive the industrial side of the game, benefiting and involving people who aren't directly involved in the explosions.
As for how do you stop people from being risk-averse ....
How do you stop people from being people. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4178
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Posted - 2015.10.17 09:10:19 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:As for how do you stop people from being risk-averse ....
How do you stop people from being people. True that.
Also, braver pilots repeatedly kicking the pussies' arses even with unfavourable odds just widens the gap: the braver become better and bolder pilots, the pussies worse and more scared. 
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
447
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Posted - 2015.10.18 08:03:27 -
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A lot of people in the game has soo much isk right now, that losing supers doesn't really matter. Yet they are afraid to lose a ship. Some of that is the fun. I get the pvp rush when in a 10M rifter as when i am in a 3B dread. Others however just can't handle a red mark on the killboards. Like that killboards matter or something.
AKA the scientist.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
4045
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Posted - 2015.10.18 09:43:25 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:As for how do you stop people from being risk-averse ....
How do you stop people from being people. True that. Also, braver pilots repeatedly kicking the pussies' arses even with unfavourable odds just widens the gap: the braver become better and bolder pilots, the pussies worse and more scared. 
Not my words, but...
Quote:(...)
What doesn't produce satisfying deaths is suicide ganking in high sec. Suicide ganking, especially of miners, is in many ways like sex between two sixteen year-old virgins. Due to CONCORD response times, a successful ganked is usually over in 15 seconds. The ganker, playing the role of the inexperienced male, is proud of himself because he scored. Then again, the actual gank was preceded by a lot of foreplay in the form of stalking the victim, preparing the warp-in, etc.
The gankee, on the other hand, may not even have known the gank was about to occur until the ganker appeared. By the time the fight or flight instinct takes over and the adrenaline starts pumping, the miner not only has lost his ship, but may find himself waking up in a a station in his medical clone. Much like the young lady expecting a magical experience, the miner is left emotionally frustrated. But unlike the disappointed young lady, the miner by now is filled with adrenaline and often expresses his frustration at the ganker, ironically giving the ganker further pleasure.
(...)
...this is SO true... 
(I am also tempted to take that analogy to both extremes: the one where it's a unconsensual event aka r*** and the one where gankers go limp and then it's the lady who haves a laugh after safely docking her more-or-less battered flying... huh).
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
200
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Posted - 2015.10.18 12:11:42 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:As for how do you stop people from being risk-averse ....
How do you stop people from being people. True that. Also, braver pilots repeatedly kicking the pussies' arses even with unfavourable odds just widens the gap: the braver become better and bolder pilots, the pussies worse and more scared.  Not my words, but... Quote:(...)
What doesn't produce satisfying deaths is suicide ganking in high sec. Suicide ganking, especially of miners, is in many ways like sex between two sixteen year-old virgins. Due to CONCORD response times, a successful ganked is usually over in 15 seconds. The ganker, playing the role of the inexperienced male, is proud of himself because he scored. Then again, the actual gank was preceded by a lot of foreplay in the form of stalking the victim, preparing the warp-in, etc.
The gankee, on the other hand, may not even have known the gank was about to occur until the ganker appeared. By the time the fight or flight instinct takes over and the adrenaline starts pumping, the miner not only has lost his ship, but may find himself waking up in a a station in his medical clone. Much like the young lady expecting a magical experience, the miner is left emotionally frustrated. But unlike the disappointed young lady, the miner by now is filled with adrenaline and often expresses his frustration at the ganker, ironically giving the ganker further pleasure.
(...) ...this is SO true...  (I am also tempted to take that analogy to both extremes: the one where it's a unconsensual event aka r*** and the one where gankers go limp and then it's the lady who haves a laugh after safely docking her more-or-less battered flying... huh).
What doesn't produce satisfying deaths is suicide ganking in high sec. Suicide ganking, especially of miners, is in many ways like sex between two sixteen year-old virgins. The gankee, on the other hand, may not even have known the gank was about to occur until the ganker appeared.
The above act is obviously one person forcing another to do something they chose not to do.
Interesting choice of words...stalking the victim..the adrenaline rush of the one committing the act..
For your analogy of the 16 year olds, the unsuspecting 16 yr old female is experiencing ****.
May want to rethink this line of thought. |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
4047
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Posted - 2015.10.18 13:43:00 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:As for how do you stop people from being risk-averse ....
How do you stop people from being people. True that. Also, braver pilots repeatedly kicking the pussies' arses even with unfavourable odds just widens the gap: the braver become better and bolder pilots, the pussies worse and more scared.  Not my words, but... Quote:(...)
What doesn't produce satisfying deaths is suicide ganking in high sec. Suicide ganking, especially of miners, is in many ways like sex between two sixteen year-old virgins. Due to CONCORD response times, a successful ganked is usually over in 15 seconds. The ganker, playing the role of the inexperienced male, is proud of himself because he scored. Then again, the actual gank was preceded by a lot of foreplay in the form of stalking the victim, preparing the warp-in, etc.
The gankee, on the other hand, may not even have known the gank was about to occur until the ganker appeared. By the time the fight or flight instinct takes over and the adrenaline starts pumping, the miner not only has lost his ship, but may find himself waking up in a a station in his medical clone. Much like the young lady expecting a magical experience, the miner is left emotionally frustrated. But unlike the disappointed young lady, the miner by now is filled with adrenaline and often expresses his frustration at the ganker, ironically giving the ganker further pleasure.
(...) ...this is SO true...  (I am also tempted to take that analogy to both extremes: the one where it's a unconsensual event aka r*** and the one where gankers go limp and then it's the lady who haves a laugh after safely docking her more-or-less battered flying... huh). What doesn't produce satisfying deaths is suicide ganking in high sec. Suicide ganking, especially of miners, is in many ways like sex between two sixteen year-old virgins. The gankee, on the other hand, may not even have known the gank was about to occur until the ganker appeared. The above act is obviously one person forcing another to do something they chose not to do. Interesting choice of words...stalking the victim..the adrenaline rush of the one committing the act.. For your analogy of the 16 year olds, the unsuspecting 16 yr old female is experiencing ****. May want to rethink this line of thought.
As I said, those are not my words, and anyway I already stated that, taking that analogy to the literal end, unconsensual sex is not sex. But then it's just an analogy...
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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ArmyOfMe
Hull Breach. Outnumbered.
487
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:01:24 -
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Sorry, but a member of PL complaining about risk adverse players is pretty priceless. PL are one of the reasons that so many are risk adverse these days. Low sec entitys were scared shitless of being hotdropped by PL supers whenever they wanted to field caps. Sure its fair game to do so, and in those regards i dont even mind it, but please understand what has caused lots of ppl to become more risk adverse. Players all over eve have become so used to being titan bridged upon during fights that a lot of fc's have most of their contact list filled with known titan pilots from the area, and either simply refuse to take a fight due to some titan pilot being online cause they expect to be dropped on if they try to fight.
ps: PL isnt the main reason for this, but they sure as heck didnt help either 
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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Crimson Nirnroots
Compliant Munitions
46
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Posted - 2015.10.18 17:14:17 -
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Creepy analogy.
So we're clear, PvP is consensual as soon as that 'Undock' button is clicked. Frolicking through asteroid belts thinking "it will never happen to me" does not supercede this fact. Wrap that shiz up in a Tank, it's that easy.
Antimatter, now with more Nirnroots.
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
365
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Posted - 2015.10.18 21:14:23 -
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Crimson Nirnroots wrote:Creepy analogy.
So we're clear, PvP is consensual as soon as that 'Undock' button is clicked. Frolicking through asteroid belts thinking "it will never happen to me" does not supercede this fact. Wrap that shiz up in a Tank, it's that easy. No, we're not clear on that. What we are clear on is, the PvP-ers are a clear minority in this game, and calling other players names, such as "risk averse" isn't going to change that one iota. (Google "iota". You'll be amazed.)
As a post on the first page of this thread said, "Some people think not having a death wish is risk averse."
Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
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Divine Entervention
Rational Chaos Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
705
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Posted - 2015.10.18 22:34:34 -
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The only way to counter risk aversion would be to mandate ass beatings for all eve subscribers.
That way they would know the different between real and imagined loss.
Maybe after some physical interaction they'd be able to distinguish between a broken jaw and the loss of pixels and wouldn't boo hoo their lives away whenever they encounter what their inferior intellects classifies as a "loss". |

Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
757
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Posted - 2015.10.18 23:19:04 -
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Risk aversion is inherent in the game and wont go away no matter what is done, simply because nobody wants to be free kills for somebody else in any sort of competitive system. Just as an example in eq2 soe nerfed their fame system to encourage folk to fight. Yet even after the nerfing, there was no serious marked increase in fights for the simple reason that even if the fight is consequenceless, people still do not want to constantly be somebody else's ***** over and over again. In an open world game like eve where the matches are inherently unbalanced and it is fairly obvious how a match will turn just by looking at the two sides at the start of the match the only thing that will seriously help risk aversion is allowing for more asymmetrical combat - giving smaller groups the tools they need to beat larger foes. The only problem with this is that ccp continually nerfs anything that gives a numerically smaller group an opportunity to fight a larger grp, e.g. ecm, boosts, etc. . .
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
705
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:03:35 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Risk aversion is inherent in the game and wont go away no matter what is done, simply because nobody wants to be free kills for somebody else in any sort of competitive system. Just as an example in eq2 soe nerfed their fame system to encourage folk to fight. Yet even after the nerfing, there was no serious marked increase in fights for the simple reason that even if the fight is consequenceless, people still do not want to constantly be somebody else's ***** over and over again. In an open world game like eve where the matches are inherently unbalanced and it is fairly obvious how a match will turn just by looking at the two sides at the start of the match the only thing that will seriously help risk aversion is allowing for more asymmetrical combat - giving smaller groups the tools they need to beat larger foes. The only problem with this is that ccp continually nerfs anything that gives a numerically smaller group an opportunity to fight a larger grp, e.g. ecm, boosts, etc. . .
Anything that can be used as a force multiplier by a small group can be used even more effectively by a larger one. Obviously we're talking about OGB supported kiting gangs here, flying against unlinked blobs in mostly slower ships. The deciding factor in that engagement is that your opponent is incompetent and doesn't bring 2 boosters and 6 falcons to your 1 booster and 1 falcon.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
705
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:08:30 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:Sorry, but a member of PL complaining about risk adverse players is pretty priceless. PL are one of the reasons that so many are risk adverse these days. Low sec entitys were scared shitless of being hotdropped by PL supers whenever they wanted to field caps. Sure its fair game to do so, and in those regards i dont even mind it, but please understand what has caused lots of ppl to become more risk adverse. Players all over eve have become so used to being titan bridged upon during fights that a lot of fc's have most of their contact list filled with known titan pilots from the area, and either simply refuse to take a fight due to some titan pilot being online cause they expect to be dropped on if they try to fight. ps: PL isnt the main reason for this, but they sure as heck didnt help either 
Yea I saw PL station camping brave in Kehjari a few days back with 2 Machariels, 2 resebo lokis and 2 basilisks, assuredly with triage and super alts on standby (because PL). You don't get to complain about lack of content when all you do is try to farm other people for content whilst sitting smugly behind the walls of an escalation capability no one else can match, except for the other nullsec power blocs who share your aversion for risking major assets.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
40531
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Posted - 2015.10.19 05:41:50 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:ArmyOfMe wrote:Sorry, but a member of PL complaining about risk adverse players is pretty priceless. PL are one of the reasons that so many are risk adverse these days. Low sec entitys were scared shitless of being hotdropped by PL supers whenever they wanted to field caps. Sure its fair game to do so, and in those regards i dont even mind it, but please understand what has caused lots of ppl to become more risk adverse. Players all over eve have become so used to being titan bridged upon during fights that a lot of fc's have most of their contact list filled with known titan pilots from the area, and either simply refuse to take a fight due to some titan pilot being online cause they expect to be dropped on if they try to fight. ps: PL isnt the main reason for this, but they sure as heck didnt help either  Yea I saw PL station camping brave in Kehjari a few days back with 2 Machariels, 2 resebo lokis and 2 basilisks, assuredly with triage and super alts on standby (because PL). You don't get to complain about lack of content when all you do is try to farm other people for content whilst sitting smugly behind the walls of an escalation capability no one else can match, except for the other nullsec power blocs who share your aversion for risking major assets. Not to defend Feyd as he can speak for himself.
This thread is 6 months old. It was necro' to get it back on the front page and hadn't had a post in it for the last 2 months.
When Feyd made the thread, he wasn't in PL. He was in BL having only recently joined them at that point and moved out of highsec.
Not difficult facts to check before someone complains about PL (or anyone else) whining.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
34523
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Posted - 2015.10.19 10:07:35 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:ArmyOfMe wrote:Sorry, but a member of PL complaining about risk adverse players is pretty priceless. PL are one of the reasons that so many are risk adverse these days. Low sec entitys were scared shitless of being hotdropped by PL supers whenever they wanted to field caps. Sure its fair game to do so, and in those regards i dont even mind it, but please understand what has caused lots of ppl to become more risk adverse. Players all over eve have become so used to being titan bridged upon during fights that a lot of fc's have most of their contact list filled with known titan pilots from the area, and either simply refuse to take a fight due to some titan pilot being online cause they expect to be dropped on if they try to fight. ps: PL isnt the main reason for this, but they sure as heck didnt help either  Yea I saw PL station camping brave in Kehjari a few days back with 2 Machariels, 2 resebo lokis and 2 basilisks, assuredly with triage and super alts on standby (because PL). You don't get to complain about lack of content when all you do is try to farm other people for content whilst sitting smugly behind the walls of an escalation capability no one else can match, except for the other nullsec power blocs who share your aversion for risking major assets. Not to defend Feyd as he can speak for himself. This thread is 6 months old. It was necro' by CAM begging for skillbooks. The thread hadn't been posted in for the last 2 months. When Feyd made the thread, he wasn't in PL. He was in BL having only recently joined them at that point and moved out of highsec. Not difficult facts to check before someone complains about PL (or anyone else) whining.
What did BL use to do, I forgot.
Risk aversion is not a thing, people not taking fights they can't win is. As the general age of the population increases, so does their experience. As a result, you get less kills via gimmicks. Good thing that we have conflict drivers to instigate fights over space and the likes, oh wait...
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Mister Holder
Faceless Men
36
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Posted - 2015.10.19 10:17:18 -
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The biggest issue I see for a lot of people getting into PvP is that they want to start out Solo. This is pretty much a no go in Eve as half of the people doing PvP end up gate camping choke points for easy kills.
I think it has been proposed before, but it would be absolutely awesome if CCP were to implement some sort of module that allowed the scanning of a jump gate to see how many entities are sitting on the other side. |
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