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Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:32:00 - [1] So to solve this obviously glaring problem, I suggest CCP implement the Double My Wallet button. Each time you press it it will double the size of your wallet. This will make the game far easier for casual and newbie players who may or may not have a lot of time to make money in Eve. I mean seriously, who really wants to spend minutes, hours, days, weeks, or monthes making ISK? One click of a button or several thousand will solve the problem. It can go right above the Warp to Zero button. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
darklegionca	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:41:00 - [2] Edited by: darklegionca on 10/11/2006 05:42:37 lol oh god thats awesome.... not go back to wow and if you want to make isk faster go to low sec and kill npc rats ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:43:00 - [3] Originally by: darklegionca Edited by: darklegionca on 10/11/2006 05:42:37 lol oh god thats awesome.... not go back to wow and if you want to make isk faster go to low sec and kill npc rats Sure why not. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:46:00 - [4] but that would encourage macro play, to click the button repeatedly..... 1000% awesome guide to logging out
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:48:00 - [5] Originally by: mazzilliu but that would encourage macro play, to click the button repeatedly..... But it would reduce ISK sales. That means anyone NOT in favor of this idea is a macro user!! ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Swor Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:48:00 - [6] what if i don't want to put the effort in to click the button? is there another way?
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:49:00 - [7] Originally by: Swor what if i don't want to put the effort in to click the button? is there another way? Making everything free could work, but then what would be the point of ISK or anything for that matter? ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Nullity Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:52:00 - [8] We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in!
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! New Vagabond price: 280,000,000,000,000,000,000 So you would still have to press the button at least twelve times. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:57:00 - [10] Originally by: mazzilliu but that would encourage macro play, to click the button repeatedly..... The saddest thing in the world is that your absolutely right, given an option to press a button to make isk there would be many to create a way for that to be automated to assist in players being more and more lazy. _____________________________ ... this space for rent ...
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 05:59:00 - [11] Then I have the ultimate solution. Eve Visa Cards. Completely free to use. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Nullity Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.10 06:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! New Vagabond price: 280,000,000,000,000,000,000 So you would still have to press the button at least twelve times. We'll fix that by having NPCs sell TII stuff, and have it all capped at 100 million ISK! Then the game will be fair!
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 06:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Nullity Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! New Vagabond price: 280,000,000,000,000,000,000 So you would still have to press the button at least twelve times. We'll fix that by having NPCs sell TII stuff, and have it all capped at 100 million ISK! Then the game will be fair! But you clicked the button three more times than me! That isn't fair! ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Vazion TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 06:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! New Vagabond price: 280,000,000,000,000,000,000 So you would still have to press the button at least twelve times. 2800 times actually. --- I'm in ur signature, writing ur witty comments. T2 BPOs.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 06:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Vazion Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! New Vagabond price: 280,000,000,000,000,000,000 So you would still have to press the button at least twelve times. 2800 times actually. Nope, 11 times pushing the button would have the net effect of increasing the principle amount by 2,048 fold. you need the 12th time to get above 2800. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Bewl Infinite Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.10 07:26:00 - [16] Live with it (Warp to 0). This is getting truely annoying.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 07:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Bewl Live with it (Warp to 0). This is getting truely annoying. Live without it; Warp to 0. This is truly getting to be an annoyance. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Dred'Pirate Jesus Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.11.10 07:36:00 - [18] Bah.. Warp to 0km makes it viable for the unwashed masses to migrate out of high sec.. Eve has needed a carrot like this for quite a while.. And I already have an "I win" isk button.. Plexs.. [2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus"
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 07:39:00 - [19] I do see the upside to them, I'm not trying to say there isn't one, but the costs overall to the game in the big picture are too great to justify my own eve life greed. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:51:00 - [20] Ultimately, Warp to 0 should not even be on the table, since the insta problem is that they were possible, not that players became dependent on them. Your vice and weakness should not force the game into pandering to the lazy, stupid, or cowardly. The mere fact CCP is even considering such an option is leading me to believe they have lost the vision they had for Eve. I know how that sounds, but what Warp to Zero is going to do is shift the blame from the players to CCP on who is responsible for the crappy state of the game. CCP can either relent and give the whiners what they want or remove instas and anything like them once and for all. And it seems to me that CCP is giving in to the whiners. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender What is your opinion?
Xeaon Minmatar Last Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:48:00 - [21] Originally by: Thor Xian Ultimately, Warp to 0 should not even be on the table, since the insta problem is that they were possible, not that players became dependent on them. Your vice and weakness should not force the game into pandering to the lazy, stupid, or cowardly. The mere fact CCP is even considering such an option is leading me to believe they have lost the vision they had for Eve. I know how that sounds, but what Warp to Zero is going to do is shift the blame from the players to CCP on who is responsible for the crappy state of the game. CCP can either relent and give the whiners what they want or remove instas and anything like them once and for all. And it seems to me that CCP is giving in to the whiners. QFT a thousand times over sadly As I see it, no matter how trivial warp to 0 seems to some, eve is going down a path many other decent mmos have gone before (UO, bah). If it keeps getting more and more dumbed down it will just die. ------------ Originally by: Righteous Fury Eve is not about the old preying on the new, its about the smart preying on the utterly incompetent.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Xeaon As I see it, no matter how trivial warp to 0 seems to some, eve is going down a path many other decent mmos have gone before (UO, bah). If it keeps getting more and more dumbed down it will just die. Its ironic that people feel this way, when gate camping and sniping are so simple even a monkey can do it. You want eve to be more difficult? Well, then try to think outside the box a little and see what eve pvp could BECOME if it wasnt for the counterstrike instaganks and killboards some people are so proud of. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:53:00 - [23] i made 1.5B ISK in 0.0 in the lats 2-3 days ( what with loot etc and a nice implant find)
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:54:00 - [24] Why some people think that having to put actual effort into gatecamps to get kills means Eve is catering to the lazy,cowardly,whatever,blahblahblah I will never understand. ---------- IBTL \o/
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.10 11:09:00 - [25] Gotta love these whiney warp to 0 threads I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!!
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.10 11:11:00 - [26] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Jim McGregor Its ironic that people feel this way, when gate camping and sniping are so simple even a monkey can do it. You want eve to be more difficult? Well, then try to think outside the box a little and see what eve pvp could BECOME if it wasnt for the counterstrike instaganks and killboards some people are so proud of. Been on sisi recently? It is already much harder to "instagank" people. A semi-reasonably fitted ship has little problem getting to a gate now. Yes, warp to 0 makes it harder to instagank people. Thats why its a good change. People arguing against it because it dumbs down eve is what I was arguing against. Its the opposite, really. Now pirates have to work harder and be more organized to get kills. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Xaildaine	Posted - 2006.11.10 11:12:00 - [27] Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! Come on man This is one of the few threads not about the T2 lotto.. dont hijack
Vazion TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 11:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Vazion Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Nullity We won't even have to press the button if all accounts are given a gift of 100,000,000,000,000,000 ISK upon logging in! New Vagabond price: 280,000,000,000,000,000,000 So you would still have to press the button at least twelve times. 2800 times actually. Nope, 11 times pushing the button would have the net effect of increasing the principle amount by 2,048 fold. you need the 12th time to get above 2800. Ar..Ya beat me.. --- I'm in ur signature, writing ur witty comments. T2 BPOs.
Selena 001	Posted - 2006.11.10 11:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Bah.. Warp to 0km makes it viable for the unwashed masses to migrate out of high sec.. Eve has needed a carrot like this for quite a while.. And I already have an "I win" isk button.. Plexs.. First people (pirates) moan about no-one being in 0.0. Now people (pirates) moan about too many people (carebears) having access to it. I'm utterly confused. Do you WANT more bloody targets or just more non-bubbled gate camp kills? Having access doesn't automaticaly give you the knowledge of how to survive there either. If you ask me you'r getting it easier. Thats the trouble with pirates. Never know what they want. I suggest we ignore them completely... oh wait ___________ NATIONAL SARCASM DAY!!
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 11:22:00 - [30] Originally by: Jim McGregor Its not that. I think its more that most players doesnt see anything profitable about low sec. When you can run level 4 missions for an hour solo, or you can try to go to low sec and do some mining/complex running for a hour, the end result is that the missions are more profitable in a risk/reward kind of way. Thats whats wrong. Well, there is a bit of that, but it isn't the whole story. Remember when CCP nerfed lvl4's? Did everyone leave hi-sec to go and do something harder and more risky to keep the same level of income? Nope, they sat in Empire, grinded their mission, and moaned. If you moved all lvl4 missions out of hi-sec do you think all the mission runners would move to lo-sec? I doubt it, they would just grind lvl3 mission, and moan enough about quitting until CCP threw them a bone. Those people will not face risk. They believe they have a right to play unmolested. They aren't playing Eve-Online, they are only playing a subset of it, and that is all they are willing to play. They don't want anything to happen which they are not in control of. You won't see them leave hi-sec until PvP is made consentual ... The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

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