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Elve Sorrow Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:32:00 - [31] I love your sig. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:50:00 - [32] It's okay BoB, I'm sure they don't hold a grudge. Originally by: Goberth Ludwig **** what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then? Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:13:00 - [33] /me yawns Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:27:00 - [34] Originally by: Ab Initio Goons with actual assets to loose, the dream is coming true! nice signature:-d yarrrrbawk! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:50:00 - [35] I'd say the goons are right on track. I never expected them to ally with RA, though. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Tinkz If you go down to the woods (Scalding Pass) today, You're sure of a big surprise. (ish) If you go down to the woods today (at say 0300 gametime), You'd better go in disguise (maybe a bee costume ?). For every bear that ever there was (or as many as they can muster) Will gather there for certain because (The Mittani told them to) Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic (put a load of V towers into re-enforced). Haha brilliant. And RE the OP: I see RA has enough isk left over from the old 8/10s to equip some random n00bs with dreads. Who exactly cares? - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Menf Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:01:00 - [37] They are not the first and they wont be the last... There will come a time not far away and they will split up in greed to own the new regions... Tempus rerum imperator.
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:09:00 - [38] Sweet! That makes me excited. =) I thought it was always going to be Incursus, and Rifters, and Punishers, and Executors for the rest of their time with RA. ___________
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Fubear Originally by: Tinkz Wild guess is that in March 2007, The Goonski's will pay a visit across the south to CYVOK, if BoB have left anything of ASCN. This is not the goonswarm private forum - does every thread they post have to be reposted here? Yes ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Beringe I'd say the goons are right on track. I never expected them to ally with RA, though. Every horse needs a rider.
Kaptein Trefot Caldari Calista Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:23:00 - [41] Originally by: Hawkings SJ Originally by: Beringe I'd say the goons are right on track. I never expected them to ally with RA, though. Every horse needs a rider. No they dont!
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:25:00 - [42] T1 fitted dreads are kinda easy to kill arent they?
Royaldo KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:28:00 - [43] keep making them stupid remarks, im gonna laugh my ass off when they wipe you off the map
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Royaldo keep making them stupid remarks, im gonna laugh my ass off when they wipe you off the map Well, getting wiped off the map is a risk that every alliance capable enough to claim a region(s) of space for themselves, all on their own, takes.
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:49:00 - [45] Node death by siege modules? ------------------------- Getting Sig Removed / Rank 8 / SP: 762039 of 2048000
Xanja 2H Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:52:00 - [46] OP sure sounds like he is scared of something. Another ASCN cry for help? -----------------
Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:52:00 - [47] it takes more then racial dreadnought lvl 1 to fly a dread.
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:53:00 - [48] dreads would be nice, atleast they can't run in certain situations. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
Frederick Skinner BlueMen Inc	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:00:00 - [49] Edited by: Frederick Skinner on 10/11/2006 19:07:54 Originally by: Beringe I never expected them to ally with RA, though. There really wasn't much of a choice and you kind of have BoB and the earlier reaction of the folks they(GS/RA) are now stomping to thank for that. In that "help help please hit BoB" thread it was said best (to ASCN): Originally by: arkarsk Edited by: arkarsk on 09/11/2006 16:51:01 Originally by: Sharcy Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied? Am I the only one that finds it ironic, that if ASCN helped the goons against BoB earlier, and didnt just join the bandwagon and reset standings to 0 [or in axe's case, fight a prolong empire war vs the goons] - they could be helping you now.... or even better, this war may not even have happened! You guys are getting what you deserve. This isn't happening in a vacuum. I hope they do well and show you all up. Edit: clarifications
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:13:00 - [50] The Kali hp-changes are going to make that a headache kind of bee-blob o_- ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:15:00 - [51] Edited by: Raid on 10/11/2006 19:16:03 uh ok.. thanks for the info... Now what are the dates when the finnish the skills to use the siege module, armor reps, shield boosters and jump drives with calibaration and fuel conservation? You think being able to sit in the ship makes you a dread pilot? pfffft
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:23:00 - [52] RA is the only alliance in the game to be afraid of no one, since pretty much everyone else is scared to death when they hear the name "BoB", option were limited for Goon, beside RA knows when they see a good ally, so it was meant to happen.
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:24:00 - [53] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 10/11/2006 19:16:03 uh ok.. thanks for the info... Now what are the dates when the finnish the skills to use the siege module, armor reps, shield boosters and jump drives with calibaration and fuel conservation? You think being able to sit in the ship makes you a dread pilot? pfffft Does it say the list is when they have actual skill required to board the ship? Or does it say the list is when all pilots have all proper support-skills trained aswell? Yea, neither, so you dont know what the list actually is ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:26:00 - [54] I'd rather fight gang of goon dreads than a gang of goon blackbirds. Small armor repairor's are getting boring.
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Royaldo keep making them stupid remarks, im gonna laugh my ass off when they wipe you off the map Wanna bet?
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:46:00 - [56] Originally by: dabster Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 10/11/2006 19:16:03 uh ok.. thanks for the info... Now what are the dates when the finnish the skills to use the siege module, armor reps, shield boosters and jump drives with calibaration and fuel conservation? You think being able to sit in the ship makes you a dread pilot? pfffft Does it say the list is when they have actual skill required to board the ship? Or does it say the list is when all pilots have all proper support-skills trained aswell? Yea, neither, so you dont know what the list actually is Every alliance in the game can make a list like that... Some can make a list a lot longer... Yes im assuming thats a list of people who can FLY the ship not use it.. Why? because its logical to assume their being optamistic about their dread numbers. By the time march comes around 50% of the people on that will be able to fly a dread (most will get side tracked with other things or simply not have the money for the skills). Less than 50% will be able to fly it effectivly (skill trainign time and money)as well as have a ship in their hanger (Money). Thats a realistic assesment.
James 315 The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:49:00 - [57] Originally by: dabster Does it say the list is when they have actual skill required to board the ship? Or does it say the list is when all pilots have all proper support-skills trained aswell? Yea, neither, so you dont know what the list actually is My educated(?) guess is that it's an estimate for when they will have trained the dreadnought plus certain support skills. Why? Take a look at the number of months this goes out. It starts in September and goes all the way to March. That's seven months of training time, plus whatever skills the characters already have. Characters who have already been training up battleship skills are likely to have many of the prerequisites for the dreadnought. But if you trained directly for dreadnought, the required skills are actually not that time-consuming in the big picture--they're time-consuming because most people want to get lots of other ship skills (any kind of elite frigate, HAC, etc.) that set the time back. Dreadnought alone? Assuming high perception/willpower skills, you're looking at the main ones being racial Battleship V, Advanced Spaceship Command V, Large (Weapon) V. This along with some lesser V's for jump drive (Warp Op, Navigation, Science). That's, what, around five months? But this list includes seven months of training at least. Now, maybe those March people are including training time for other things they want to train in the meantime, but based on the size of GoonSwarm and the relatively small number of people on the list, it looks like these are people who specifically are training for dreads right now. So the timing doesn't make sense. But if you add certain support skills, namely siege mode (Advanced Weapons Upgrades V), that's at least another two months. Bringing us to seven months, and now the list begins to make more sense. My guess is these are pilots training directly to dreadnought with siege mode capability, with the March people being those who are just now going down the path. Having a dread fleet of that size would be useful in launching simultaneous lightning attacks. You get a dread fleet of a certain size and of course the large POS will go down, but the more dreads you have, the faster you can do it and the more POS's you can knock down in less time. Have enough dreads and you can launch attacks in multiple systems at once. I don't think those dread pilots will have max'd their jump drive skills or tanking skills, but if the GoonSwarm can lock down the systems with their support fleet, they should keep the dreads pretty safe, especially if the large volume of dreads makes the POS-smashing take less time.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:57:00 - [58] What makes me laugh most is that LV/V [dont deny its your spy] actually spent 10 dollars to join the SA forums, just so they could join goonfleet and repost random threads from their private forums. -----------------
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.11.10 20:08:00 - [59] All i can think when i see this many dreads is BoB's Titan going up against them. All the pretty lights and flaming hulks. ------------- Cadet Lithalnas - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
Canine Fiend Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 20:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Lithalnas All i can think when i see this many dreads is BoB's Titan going up against them. All the pretty lights and flaming hulks. Sadly a superweapon will barely scratch a dreadnaught. There's a video of Cyvok using his superweapon with a naglfar next to the weapon, that naglfar happens to be me and I was, for the most part, unscathed. Now using a cyno to foward deploy a bunch of ships onto a dreadnaught gang, that could be quite fun indeed. ------------------- "Stay up north boy, we don't play with training wheels down south."

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