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Tinkz Miss Information's Agency	Posted - 2006.11.10 13:57:00 - [1] Wild guess is that in March 2007, The Goonski's will pay a visit across the south to CYVOK, if BoB have left anything of ASCN Month - Character - Type September - Sensi Milla - Moros (Training Complete) (Dread in possession) September - Aryth - Moros (Training Complete) (Dread in possession) September - Wottan MaeTeiff - Revelation September - Tilta - Revelation (Training Complete) October - Gonff MaeTeiff - Moros October - Aliksr - Naglfar October - Azaeren - Naglfar October - Thanitos - Naglfar October - Aegices - Phoenix November - Yeep - Moros November - NoghriViR - Phoenix November - Gravis MacClay - Phoenix December - deadtear - Moros December - Woobins - Moros December - Kayella - Moros December - Factor Benz - Moros December - Sorenson Roynex - Phoenix December - Jacinto Naysmith - Phoenix December - Daac Iomen - Phoenix December - Big McHuge - Phoenix December - BobVII - Phoenix December - Slarm - Phoenix December - Pem Tefol - Phoenix December - Galan Johr - Phoenix December - Swedish Bob - Phoenix December - Vibius - Phoenix December - autopilot enraged - Revelation December - General Tsao - Revelation December - bigfoo - Revelation December - Kalahn - Revelation December - Xeodia - Revelation January - Santaria Boon - Moros January - Lilithine Ki - Moros January - Braytac - Phoenix January - rbox - Phoenix January - Cringeley - Phoenix January - Arkadiy Konstienev - Phoenix January - Oninous - Phoenix January - RoboTronic - Revelation January - Moishe Rothschild - Revelation February - Aliennatives - Moros February - Melworth - Moros February - Kippuex - Moros February - Tiny45 - Moros February - Virtuality - Naglfar February - Yukio Tai - Naglfar February - uberwench - Phoenix February - Pergly - Phoenix February - Dalekplunger Slick - Phoenix February - HFX X20rt - Phoenix February - Furiousb - Phoenix February - McSteve - Phoenix February - Kerasi - Phoenix February - Yukari - Revelation February - GameraChan - Revelation March - Zorlag - Naglfar March - Alice Carroll - Naglfar March - Beauaz - Phoenix March - Jayne Town - Phoenix March - Kenton Moo - Phoenix March - Ghaos Inaltor - Phoenix March - Foodchain - Phoenix March - CosworthXB - Phoenix March - Minhjaal - Phoenix March - Wattish - Revelation March - Ronin Achuru - Revelation Beware of Goons in Dreads, POS Killer Bees
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.10 13:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 10/11/2006 14:00:16 I've said this in my alliance forums, but Goons + motivation + equipment and skills could be a serious headache . Not to mention when combined with login traps and RA's logoffski tactics, its even worse to try and survive respectively.
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:03:00 - [3] Go Goonies <3
Ramuh BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:05:00 - [4] Thats gonna be insane when that all gets completed.
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:14:00 - [5] holy crap i suspect some skills wil be lacking but hey whats lacked in skills may be made up in numbersand ra tactics.
memraned	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:15:00 - [6] Can the mods please stop this drivelsome spam by obvious alt corp posters, I thought that was a rule? I dont really care whether this is an LV alt or some bitter ex-goon, all the stuff being posted on here from the goonfleet forums is stuff not from the private directors forum, but from the general discussion forum and therefore not a secret. BoB like most other major alliances in the game reads the goon forums this thread is from. They already know. They not going to come and save you SoCo, they hate weak alliances.
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:15:00 - [7] If goons lose those like they lose Battleships & smaller craft, I don't really see an issue.
Ur Dirac Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:19:00 - [8]
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:27:00 - [9] I always said, the goons might be funny now, but when they've all got 20m+ skillpoints behind them they are going to be a very scary sight to behold. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Padijun Siger Hunters Agency	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:28:00 - [10] HORF HORF, LIL' OAKIE
Fubear Vogon Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Tinkz Wild guess is that in March 2007, The Goonski's will pay a visit across the south to CYVOK, if BoB have left anything of ASCN. This is not the goonswarm private forum - does every thread they post have to be reposted here? Is it really that suprising that an alliance their size has people training into dreads? Why do you assume they are planing on invading ASCN? Sound like another "OH GOD BoB/ASCN HELP US!" post from an obvious ALT.
shodowdemon Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:41:00 - [12] God help us all...
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:58:00 - [13] Thats a lot of dreads to kill :D ---------------------- BiH 4tw
Chochko KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:00:00 - [14] Holy moly PWN Go goons /emote spleen theme -------------------------------------------
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:01:00 - [15] wts clue who cares really, sounds like sumone has a obsession wid teh goons Mods Dont Like Fish, It Reminds Them Of Home
Happydayz FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:02:00 - [16] Originally by: memraned Can the mods please stop this drivelsome spam by obvious alt corp posters, I thought that was a rule? oh, the irony
Uttuman Niska Ecumenical Trade Holdings	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:06:00 - [17] Don't worry Eve, they just want them for mining and ratting.
Zaphod Jones Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:08:00 - [18] have some nice hardners for sale if you need any for those ships
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Hawkings SJ If goons lose those like they lose Battleships & smaller craft, I don't really see an issue. ****! You beat me to it! I was JUST going to post that.
Waut 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:22:00 - [20] Cool. I'm still lacking dread killmails In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
Taralesk Inshani Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:35:00 - [21] Yes, the goons are a REAL alliance! Wow! There's people in it, who can fly, you know, stuff. And shoot other stuff! Zomg, I must share this information with everyone I know. THE GOONS HAVE SHIPS! . Quote: Oh, yeah, what are you gonna do? Release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot bees at you?
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:48:00 - [22] If that is true...WTF Goons with big ships??!!
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:51:00 - [23] Goons with actual assets to loose, the dream is coming true!
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:51:00 - [24] I hope goon dread spawns can be found more often than Domination spawns. Should drop some faction lewt Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:53:00 - [25] There are no goons. Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:54:00 - [26] <3 Those that do not adapt become victims of Major Stormer
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:54:00 - [27] I thought bob was never going to let the goons get established in 0.0 again?
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:02:00 - [28] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz I thought bob was never going to let the goons get established in 0.0 again? At the time of our last attack on Goons, they had no assets, and nothing to defend. Looks like second time around they may actually fight, instead of logging on alts in empire. Assuming they trained for capital ships for something other than bragging rights.
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:07:00 - [29] noobs shouldnt fly bs's without the skills never mind the dreads ^_^ so i guess loosing 11 dreads in ago wont be a record for much longer? What makes a man? Is it the woman in his arms? Just 'cause she has big ***** Or is the way He fights everyday? No, it's probably the *****
Tinkz Miss Information's Agency	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:28:00 - [30] If you go down to the woods (Scalding Pass) today, You're sure of a big surprise. (ish) If you go down to the woods today (at say 0300 gametime), You'd better go in disguise (maybe a bee costume ?). For every bear that ever there was (or as many as they can muster) Will gather there for certain because (The Mittani told them to) Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic (put a load of V towers into re-enforced).
Elve Sorrow Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:32:00 - [31] I love your sig. It's great being Amarr, aint it?
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:50:00 - [32] It's okay BoB, I'm sure they don't hold a grudge. Originally by: Goberth Ludwig **** what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then? Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:13:00 - [33] /me yawns Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
FowlPlayChiken Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:27:00 - [34] Originally by: Ab Initio Goons with actual assets to loose, the dream is coming true! nice signature:-d yarrrrbawk! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:50:00 - [35] I'd say the goons are right on track. I never expected them to ally with RA, though. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.11.10 17:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Tinkz If you go down to the woods (Scalding Pass) today, You're sure of a big surprise. (ish) If you go down to the woods today (at say 0300 gametime), You'd better go in disguise (maybe a bee costume ?). For every bear that ever there was (or as many as they can muster) Will gather there for certain because (The Mittani told them to) Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic (put a load of V towers into re-enforced). Haha brilliant. And RE the OP: I see RA has enough isk left over from the old 8/10s to equip some random n00bs with dreads. Who exactly cares? - - - - - - - - - - Quote: I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
Menf Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:01:00 - [37] They are not the first and they wont be the last... There will come a time not far away and they will split up in greed to own the new regions... Tempus rerum imperator.
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:09:00 - [38] Sweet! That makes me excited. =) I thought it was always going to be Incursus, and Rifters, and Punishers, and Executors for the rest of their time with RA. ___________
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Fubear Originally by: Tinkz Wild guess is that in March 2007, The Goonski's will pay a visit across the south to CYVOK, if BoB have left anything of ASCN. This is not the goonswarm private forum - does every thread they post have to be reposted here? Yes ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Beringe I'd say the goons are right on track. I never expected them to ally with RA, though. Every horse needs a rider.
Kaptein Trefot Caldari Calista Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:23:00 - [41] Originally by: Hawkings SJ Originally by: Beringe I'd say the goons are right on track. I never expected them to ally with RA, though. Every horse needs a rider. No they dont!
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:25:00 - [42] T1 fitted dreads are kinda easy to kill arent they?
Royaldo KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:28:00 - [43] keep making them stupid remarks, im gonna laugh my ass off when they wipe you off the map
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Royaldo keep making them stupid remarks, im gonna laugh my ass off when they wipe you off the map Well, getting wiped off the map is a risk that every alliance capable enough to claim a region(s) of space for themselves, all on their own, takes.
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:49:00 - [45] Node death by siege modules? ------------------------- Getting Sig Removed / Rank 8 / SP: 762039 of 2048000
Xanja 2H Industries	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:52:00 - [46] OP sure sounds like he is scared of something. Another ASCN cry for help? -----------------
Randay 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:52:00 - [47] it takes more then racial dreadnought lvl 1 to fly a dread.
Amon 'Chakai FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 18:53:00 - [48] dreads would be nice, atleast they can't run in certain situations. ??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??====??==?? If eve even makes close up to 60-70k+ dollars per day as budget.. they could throw about 140k-300k easily to hardware upgrade once per year.
Frederick Skinner BlueMen Inc	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:00:00 - [49] Edited by: Frederick Skinner on 10/11/2006 19:07:54 Originally by: Beringe I never expected them to ally with RA, though. There really wasn't much of a choice and you kind of have BoB and the earlier reaction of the folks they(GS/RA) are now stomping to thank for that. In that "help help please hit BoB" thread it was said best (to ASCN): Originally by: arkarsk Edited by: arkarsk on 09/11/2006 16:51:01 Originally by: Sharcy Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Goons are helping BoB by keeping ASCN's friends in the southeast occupied? Am I the only one that finds it ironic, that if ASCN helped the goons against BoB earlier, and didnt just join the bandwagon and reset standings to 0 [or in axe's case, fight a prolong empire war vs the goons] - they could be helping you now.... or even better, this war may not even have happened! You guys are getting what you deserve. This isn't happening in a vacuum. I hope they do well and show you all up. Edit: clarifications
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:13:00 - [50] The Kali hp-changes are going to make that a headache kind of bee-blob o_- ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:15:00 - [51] Edited by: Raid on 10/11/2006 19:16:03 uh ok.. thanks for the info... Now what are the dates when the finnish the skills to use the siege module, armor reps, shield boosters and jump drives with calibaration and fuel conservation? You think being able to sit in the ship makes you a dread pilot? pfffft
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:23:00 - [52] RA is the only alliance in the game to be afraid of no one, since pretty much everyone else is scared to death when they hear the name "BoB", option were limited for Goon, beside RA knows when they see a good ally, so it was meant to happen.
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:24:00 - [53] Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 10/11/2006 19:16:03 uh ok.. thanks for the info... Now what are the dates when the finnish the skills to use the siege module, armor reps, shield boosters and jump drives with calibaration and fuel conservation? You think being able to sit in the ship makes you a dread pilot? pfffft Does it say the list is when they have actual skill required to board the ship? Or does it say the list is when all pilots have all proper support-skills trained aswell? Yea, neither, so you dont know what the list actually is ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:26:00 - [54] I'd rather fight gang of goon dreads than a gang of goon blackbirds. Small armor repairor's are getting boring.
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Royaldo keep making them stupid remarks, im gonna laugh my ass off when they wipe you off the map Wanna bet?
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:46:00 - [56] Originally by: dabster Originally by: Raid Edited by: Raid on 10/11/2006 19:16:03 uh ok.. thanks for the info... Now what are the dates when the finnish the skills to use the siege module, armor reps, shield boosters and jump drives with calibaration and fuel conservation? You think being able to sit in the ship makes you a dread pilot? pfffft Does it say the list is when they have actual skill required to board the ship? Or does it say the list is when all pilots have all proper support-skills trained aswell? Yea, neither, so you dont know what the list actually is Every alliance in the game can make a list like that... Some can make a list a lot longer... Yes im assuming thats a list of people who can FLY the ship not use it.. Why? because its logical to assume their being optamistic about their dread numbers. By the time march comes around 50% of the people on that will be able to fly a dread (most will get side tracked with other things or simply not have the money for the skills). Less than 50% will be able to fly it effectivly (skill trainign time and money)as well as have a ship in their hanger (Money). Thats a realistic assesment.
James 315 The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:49:00 - [57] Originally by: dabster Does it say the list is when they have actual skill required to board the ship? Or does it say the list is when all pilots have all proper support-skills trained aswell? Yea, neither, so you dont know what the list actually is My educated(?) guess is that it's an estimate for when they will have trained the dreadnought plus certain support skills. Why? Take a look at the number of months this goes out. It starts in September and goes all the way to March. That's seven months of training time, plus whatever skills the characters already have. Characters who have already been training up battleship skills are likely to have many of the prerequisites for the dreadnought. But if you trained directly for dreadnought, the required skills are actually not that time-consuming in the big picture--they're time-consuming because most people want to get lots of other ship skills (any kind of elite frigate, HAC, etc.) that set the time back. Dreadnought alone? Assuming high perception/willpower skills, you're looking at the main ones being racial Battleship V, Advanced Spaceship Command V, Large (Weapon) V. This along with some lesser V's for jump drive (Warp Op, Navigation, Science). That's, what, around five months? But this list includes seven months of training at least. Now, maybe those March people are including training time for other things they want to train in the meantime, but based on the size of GoonSwarm and the relatively small number of people on the list, it looks like these are people who specifically are training for dreads right now. So the timing doesn't make sense. But if you add certain support skills, namely siege mode (Advanced Weapons Upgrades V), that's at least another two months. Bringing us to seven months, and now the list begins to make more sense. My guess is these are pilots training directly to dreadnought with siege mode capability, with the March people being those who are just now going down the path. Having a dread fleet of that size would be useful in launching simultaneous lightning attacks. You get a dread fleet of a certain size and of course the large POS will go down, but the more dreads you have, the faster you can do it and the more POS's you can knock down in less time. Have enough dreads and you can launch attacks in multiple systems at once. I don't think those dread pilots will have max'd their jump drive skills or tanking skills, but if the GoonSwarm can lock down the systems with their support fleet, they should keep the dreads pretty safe, especially if the large volume of dreads makes the POS-smashing take less time.
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2006.11.10 19:57:00 - [58] What makes me laugh most is that LV/V [dont deny its your spy] actually spent 10 dollars to join the SA forums, just so they could join goonfleet and repost random threads from their private forums. -----------------
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.11.10 20:08:00 - [59] All i can think when i see this many dreads is BoB's Titan going up against them. All the pretty lights and flaming hulks. ------------- Cadet Lithalnas - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
Canine Fiend Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.10 20:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Lithalnas All i can think when i see this many dreads is BoB's Titan going up against them. All the pretty lights and flaming hulks. Sadly a superweapon will barely scratch a dreadnaught. There's a video of Cyvok using his superweapon with a naglfar next to the weapon, that naglfar happens to be me and I was, for the most part, unscathed. Now using a cyno to foward deploy a bunch of ships onto a dreadnaught gang, that could be quite fun indeed. ------------------- "Stay up north boy, we don't play with training wheels down south."
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 20:59:00 - [61] Originally by: Claire Lacombe Originally by: Skrypt Sweet! That makes me excited. =) I thought it was always going to be Incursus, and Rifters, and Punishers, and Executors for the rest of their time with RA. So it's your position that the Coalition lost Wicked Creek and JLO to T1 frigates? That's pretty sad, man. Oh a troll, i like.
Hawkings SJ Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.10 21:03:00 - [62] Originally by: Claire Lacombe Originally by: Skrypt Sweet! That makes me excited. =) I thought it was always going to be Incursus, and Rifters, and Punishers, and Executors for the rest of their time with RA. So it's your position that the Coalition lost Wicked Creek and JLO to T1 frigates? That's pretty sad, man. You can really tell that Jade isn't writing your corps material anymore.
Warlord2004 Caldari Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.10 21:15:00 - [63] /me wonders how long before the Goon dog bites the RA hand thats fed it?
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.10 21:18:00 - [64] Edited by: BlackHorizon on 10/11/2006 21:19:41 You have to lub the goonies. Dread swarm!
Shiwan Khan Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.10 21:44:00 - [65] i dont see whats the big deal? thats only 66 dreads, i know groups that can field over 100...its really not a big deal "TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO" - Buddrow 2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Nebba Kenezzer [SNRA], wrecking for 2250.9 damage.
Retsoptla Naton	Posted - 2006.11.10 22:09:00 - [66] Originally by: Shiwan Khan i dont see whats the big deal? thats only 66 dreads, i know groups that can field over 100...its really not a big deal The big deal is that lv's spies have no good material so they re-post random threads from goonfleet.com. Take that goonies! Owned! Haha yes we inflicted no damage and didn't steal anything or whatever, but owned!
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.10 22:12:00 - [67] Well I'm not rooting for you guys. But the Goonies still have ALOT of potential. Could be a decent alliance once you guys get some skillpoints and stop playing goons in space. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.11.10 22:45:00 - [68] There is so much stupidity going around when people talk about goons it's amazing. I seriously wonder how most of the anti-goon guys can hold 0.0 space, do you not realise that behind the shell of 1.000 newbie frigate pilotes, there may be 2.000 guys with a clue, behind this 500 guys with battleships, sp and brains? It's going to be fun watch goons slaughter elitist alliances in the future, look at LV, even in their hour of defeat they smack goons for being ****. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
LiquidSteele Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.11 02:33:00 - [69] Originally by: kublai There is so much stupidity going around when people talk about goons it's amazing... ...look at LV, even in their hour of defeat they smack goons for being **. I believe u just added to the bull ** being writen on this topic... LiquidSteele "Let Them Eat War..."
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.11.11 03:17:00 - [70] Originally by: LiquidSteele Originally by: kublai There is so much stupidity going around when people talk about goons it's amazing... ...look at LV, even in their hour of defeat they smack goons for being **. I believe u just added to the bull ** being writen on this topic... One of the biggest alliances in Eve-online have pilotes who will be dread ready in a while. Clearly, this deserves a topic, clearly we should all prance around like idiots and go "omg omg omg goon lololol goon lolololol omg omg omg goon lololol" while they keep proving that they arent actually as pathetic as people would like for them to be. Heres some intel for y'all: Stick 3.000 random people together, and you'll find a few hundred -good- apples, the quality players will invite their quality friends and aid the newbies and soon enough you have a crop of fine apples. Or, omg bees. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
dghdfgh	Posted - 2006.11.11 03:30:00 - [71] Originally by: kublai Originally by: LiquidSteele Originally by: kublai There is so much stupidity going around when people talk about goons it's amazing... ...look at LV, even in their hour of defeat they smack goons for being **. I believe u just added to the bull ** being writen on this topic... One of the biggest alliances in Eve-online have pilotes who will be dread ready in a while. Clearly, this deserves a topic, clearly we should all prance around like idiots and go "omg omg omg goon lololol goon lolololol omg omg omg goon lololol" while they keep proving that they arent actually as pathetic as people would like for them to be. Heres some intel for y'all: Stick 3.000 random people together, and you'll find a few hundred -good- apples, the quality players will invite their quality friends and aid the newbies and soon enough you have a crop of fine apples. Or, omg bees. I'm not even sure what it is that you are preaching/complaining/prattling about. It sounds like you are upset about something, or someone, or some event....after that it's hard to tell.
Armois Delgato FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.11 03:33:00 - [72] Eh, what is the big deal about this? Even if they have a few dozen pilots that are dread-capable, it is a much harder prospect to ask these pilots to sacrifice the time and money to field their own dreads. GoonSwarm is hardly a rich alliance and even if the alliance paid for the dreads and kit- losing one or two would put them in a world of hurt.
Schildboost Activ8	Posted - 2006.11.11 03:49:00 - [73] Originally by: Armois Delgato Eh, what is the big deal about this? Even if they have a few dozen pilots that are dread-capable, it is a much harder prospect to ask these pilots to sacrifice the time and money to field their own dreads. GoonSwarm is hardly a rich alliance and even if the alliance paid for the dreads and kit- losing one or two would put them in a world of hurt. Why don't you just ask your spies why they posted it then FFS?
Mr Ninjaface Minmatar Shurekin INC	Posted - 2006.11.11 04:29:00 - [74] clearly next the goons in titians MY thoughts on Kali
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.11.11 05:27:00 - [75] Originally by: dghdfgh Originally by: kublai Originally by: LiquidSteele Originally by: kublai There is so much stupidity going around when people talk about goons it's amazing... ...look at LV, even in their hour of defeat they smack goons for being **. I believe u just added to the bull ** being writen on this topic... One of the biggest alliances in Eve-online have pilotes who will be dread ready in a while. Clearly, this deserves a topic, clearly we should all prance around like idiots and go "omg omg omg goon lololol goon lolololol omg omg omg goon lololol" while they keep proving that they arent actually as pathetic as people would like for them to be. Heres some intel for y'all: Stick 3.000 random people together, and you'll find a few hundred -good- apples, the quality players will invite their quality friends and aid the newbies and soon enough you have a crop of fine apples. Or, omg bees. I'm not even sure what it is that you are preaching/complaining/prattling about. It sounds like you are upset about something, or someone, or some event....after that it's hard to tell. I think your name and complete lack of knowledge regarding the rules of this forum speaks for themselves. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.11.11 06:44:00 - [76] Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.11 06:56:00 - [77] Edited by: Plutoinum on 11/11/2006 06:59:35 Uhm, can't fly dreads. I have BS V and adv. space ship command V, skill for siege mode, jump drive, capital repper, capital projectiles and citadel torps, but no capital skill. Ok, I admit, the price of those skills inspires my training schedule a lot. Cheap comes first. ( I mean dread without those skills is pointless for me anyway )
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.11 09:01:00 - [78] Edited by: Plutoinum on 11/11/2006 09:02:39 Originally by: Schildboost Activ8 Originally by: Armois Delgato Eh, what is the big deal about this? Even if they have a few dozen pilots that are dread-capable, it is a much harder prospect to ask these pilots to sacrifice the time and money to field their own dreads. GoonSwarm is hardly a rich alliance and even if the alliance paid for the dreads and kit- losing one or two would put them in a world of hurt. Why don't you just ask your spies why they posted it then FFS? Maybe it's someone of the goon-fanclub, maybe a goon himself, maybe a coalition spy. In fact, the fan boys and 'anti-fans' usually care most about such things. They live from the success of the team they admire and the failure of the team they dislike. 'live from' = they think that success and failure of these parties is directly connected to their own p33n-size. Quite strange. /edit: ups, double post, people are slow.
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.11 17:09:00 - [79] wow cant wait to see the fraps of the first ever eve dread swarm even if it were against us I would be in utter shock if goons could just rampage through a region putting all pos in reinforced over the course of a day or two Originally by: Pinky Denmark Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.11 18:25:00 - [80] Originally by: Shardrael wow cant wait to see the fraps of the first ever eve dread swarm even if it were against us I would be in utter shock if goons could just rampage through a region putting all pos in reinforced over the course of a day or two Expect to see the biggest slaughter of dreads in the same fraps. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Terazuk Amarr Rogen's Heroes Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.12 01:31:00 - [81] I for one am astounded by this massive undertaking and I wish them all the very best and considering the amount of players that Goonswarm field at any one time, anyone on the wrong side of the Goonies are in for a seriously bumpy ride. There is some big talk in this thread and to those that are attempting to smack in this channel are a distinct liability to their Corp/Alliance as I am sure the Goonswarm read the forums too. To you guys I tip my hat for you are surely braver than I and to the Goonswarm I devote a hearty round of applause! an organization with balls of steel, lets hope we see that dread fleet operational in a system not too near me :p "...Soon, all of us will have special names; names designed to cause the cathode ray tube to resonate." Videodrome
Unfamed II FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.12 03:10:00 - [82] Originally by: Terazuk I for one am astounded by this massive undertaking and I wish them all the very best and considering the amount of players that Goonswarm field at any one time, anyone on the wrong side of the Goonies are in for a seriously bumpy ride. I agree. Can't really say the node crashes have been a smooth ride. Now, tell me something; what purpose does 150 T1 frigs and cruisers serve against 150 T2 bs? What can you achieve by that, except lag? And no, node crashes don't count. It's actually quite ******* boring shooting something that doesn't shoot back, and exists only to die and create a can. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Halca Candy Hearts	Posted - 2006.11.12 03:20:00 - [83] Originally by: Unfamed II Originally by: Terazuk I for one am astounded by this massive undertaking and I wish them all the very best and considering the amount of players that Goonswarm field at any one time, anyone on the wrong side of the Goonies are in for a seriously bumpy ride. I agree. Can't really say the node crashes have been a smooth ride. Now, tell me something; what purpose does 150 T1 frigs and cruisers serve against 150 T2 bs? What can you achieve by that, except lag? And no, node crashes don't count. It's actually quite ******* boring shooting something that doesn't shoot back, and exists only to die and create a can. So let me get this straight, if you are fighting a superiorly skilled opponent you should quit the field of battle because otherwise all you're doing is creating lag. You are a credit to this game and a credit to your corporation and alliance with that attitude. I'm beginning to hope Goonswarm wipe you from the face of Eve before BoB get to them. -Halca out ^.^
Jonaswpl Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.12 03:49:00 - [84] Quote: It's going to be fun watch goons slaughter elitist alliances in the future, look at LV, even in their hour of defeat they smack goons for being ****. Kublai, what are you on? What hour of defeat lol. For that matter, what defeat. We just PWNED Goon today. Get a clue. Karma Police
Aegis Osiris Gallente Demonic Retribution Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.12 04:07:00 - [85] Edited by: Aegis Osiris on 12/11/2006 04:08:34 Originally by: Halca So let me get this straight, if you are fighting a superiorly skilled opponent you should quit the field of battle because otherwise all you're doing is creating lag. You are a credit to this game and a credit to your corporation and alliance with that attitude. I'm beginning to hope Goonswarm wipe you from the face of Eve before BoB get to them. -Halca out ^.^ Two things Halca. 1. Do us all a favor, and leave V and LV outa your BoB rants. Comments from the sidelines of a conflict are inevitable....but pointless, ranting drivel should be avoided, mmkay?. 2. No, you shouldn't quit the field of battle. But you should make sure that everything you bring to the fight is useful. Those frigs were not useful in that way. Now, might I suggest that instead of sitting on the sidelines being a cheerleader (btw, could you shave those legs if ur gonna wear a skirt?), why don't you come on down? The party is gettin' a little full, but I'll leave your name with the bouncer at the door, and if you treat'im nice, maybe he'll let you in ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
Halca Candy Hearts	Posted - 2006.11.12 04:13:00 - [86] Originally by: Aegis Osiris Edited by: Aegis Osiris on 12/11/2006 04:08:34 Originally by: Halca So let me get this straight, if you are fighting a superiorly skilled opponent you should quit the field of battle because otherwise all you're doing is creating lag. You are a credit to this game and a credit to your corporation and alliance with that attitude. I'm beginning to hope Goonswarm wipe you from the face of Eve before BoB get to them. -Halca out ^.^ Two things Halca. 1. Do us all a favor, and leave V and LV outa your BoB rants. Comments from the sidelines of a conflict are inevitable....but pointless, ranting drivel should be avoided, mmkay?. 2. No, you shouldn't quit the field of battle. But you should make sure that everything you bring to the fight is useful. Those frigs were not useful in that way. Now, might I suggest that instead of sitting on the sidelines being a cheerleader (btw, could you shave those legs if ur gonna wear a skirt?), why don't you come on down? The party is gettin' a little full, but I'll leave your name with the bouncer at the door, and if you treat'im nice, maybe he'll let you in Sorry friend, biggest thing I can fly is a cruiser. Not good enough to fight you big guys yet. -Halca out ^.^
Father Weebles RoadKill Pickup Services	Posted - 2006.11.12 06:42:00 - [87] Originally by: Tinkz If you go down to the woods (Scalding Pass) today, You're sure of a big surprise. (ish) If you go down to the woods today (at say 0300 gametime), You'd better go in disguise (maybe a bee costume ?). For every bear that ever there was (or as many as they can muster) Will gather there for certain because (The Mittani told them to) Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic (put a load of V towers into re-enforced). never post again "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
Hani EQ Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.12 11:07:00 - [88] It's great to plan, but plans don't always go the way they should. For the Goons to have this kind of firepower by March relies on some key assumprions: 1, That all the players in the plan will still be active and in-game by march, people often quit or are dragged away by RL. 2, That all the players have accurately found the skill set needed to fly a dread. I started training for one thinking I'd be in one within 6 months. After 4months it became clear that the support skills were going to take much, much longer. 3, The all the players will be staying with the alliance, people often get bored and move. It's nice to plan though, good luck with pulling it off. Hani EQ - IT
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.12 11:18:00 - [89] Edited by: Plutoinum on 12/11/2006 11:19:40 Originally by: Father Weebles Originally by: Tinkz If you go down to the woods today (at say 0300 gametime), You'd better go in disguise (maybe a bee costume ?). never post again Actually this is quite funny. If you are in the mood to score some kills on the board, you just join a 'wolfpack' gang these days, fly to goons new home areas and have a lot of fun, at least with those, who don't master the high art of logging off yet. I'm not a friend of pos warfare, but that side is really cool.
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 11:25:00 - [90] Originally by: Plutoinum Actually this is quite funny. If you are in the mood to score some kills on the board, you just join a 'wolfpack' gang these days, fly to goons new home areas and have a lot of fun, at least with those, who don't master the high art of logging off yet. I'm not a friend of pos warfare, but that side is really cool. Nobody want to play with me anymore --------------------
Extregar Qvint Caldari JuBa Corp	Posted - 2006.11.12 11:48:00 - [91] This rant of goons only flying t1 frigs is getting kinda old. Thier fleets/gangs often contain a wide mix of ships. Some t1 frigs (few), a bulk of t1 cruisers with the odd t2 gear on, some BS also with the a few t2 bits equipped, and a few t2 ships like ceptors/AF/HAC/recon.
Parkers	Posted - 2006.11.12 13:13:00 - [92] You can tell LV is a serious alliance because the Enslaver¦s parents totally let him stay up at the Fanfest until 2am last night.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.12 13:14:00 - [93] Originally by: Parkers You can tell LV is a serious alliance because the Enslaver¦s parents totally let him stay up at the Fanfest until 2am last night. rofl, sorry, that was somehow funny.
Father Weebles Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2006.11.13 03:00:00 - [94] Originally by: Parkers You can tell LV is a serious alliance because the Enslaver¦s parents totally let him stay up at the Fanfest until 2am last night. "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
Mesasone Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 03:54:00 - [95] Originally by: Menf They are not the first and they wont be the last... There will come a time not far away and they will split up in greed to own the new regions... Truer than you know. Has the count down begun for the dramabomb that is goons with power? It's great not being Amarr, ain't it?
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:07:00 - [96] Originally by: Parkers You can tell LV is a serious alliance because the Enslaver¦s parents totally let him stay up at the Fanfest until 2am last night. Sorry, who are you exactly? Quite amusing that you have the nerve to try to insult others, yet you are scared to show who you are -------- It's great being Amarr, aint it?
MilesofPain Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2006.11.26 13:45:00 - [97] That,s pretty impressive if you think about it, almost 10 dreads per month if they can build them. Thats a nice industrial backone. if it's in house the means they can replace up to 10 lost dreads a month. Or they can use the minerals to produce a lot of isk for tech 2 bpo's. All in all, even with a 50% completion rate on the dreds thats almost 5 billion per month in ships to sell I wish them the best of luck.
LTD THOR Sensus Numinis Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:24:00 - [98] does a dread wreck looks just as crappy like a frig/cruiser/bs wreck in kali? dunno rly.. My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:25:00 - [99] Originally by: arkarsk What makes me laugh most is that LV/V [dont deny its your spy] actually spent 10 dollars to join the SA forums, just so they could join goonfleet and repost random threads from their private forums. You know, I find that highly unlikely. There are goons in every major corp/alliance in Eve. Just because a goon is playing Eve, it does not mean he is in Goonswarm or even supports them (a fair number think Remedy is a total ****er) Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Mirirar Caldari Solstice Systems Development Concourse	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:40:00 - [100] Originally by: Verus Potestas You know, I find that highly unlikely. There are goons in every major corp/alliance in Eve. Just because a goon is playing Eve, it does not mean he is in Goonswarm or even supports them (a fair number think Remedy is a total ****er) I'm an avid poster on SA, and I've never flown with the goons. In fact, I've actually shot many down given the chance.
Corey Grim FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:46:00 - [101] Edited by: Corey Grim on 26/11/2006 20:47:33 All i can say to this topic: Linkage Find out more about me
Vily Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.26 21:43:00 - [102] The simple fact of this post is to be honest irrelevant. The goons will have lots of dread pilots over the next couple of months.... wow. You need to realize however, that in four months, the average battleship pilot can train about 90% of the required skills for a dread. Not counting those that already can. In four mmonths, the goons may have thirty dreads, their enemies will likely have fifty. On top of all that you need to be able to provide these pilots with said dreads, and fittings and skills, at around or over 2 billion isk each, which is not a simple process. and there is also something to be said for combat experience. The first time the goons bring out a big dread fleet might also be the first time the loose a big dread fleet. One of the incredibly powerful elements of goonfleet has always been their low-end setups. a rifter or a thorax only costs a few dollars yet is moderatly effective at the roles you set it in. A dread or even a battleship, is a much more substantial loss, especially when you factor in tech II equipment. This post seems wholly un-necessary as it does not do anything from either side. Im sure LV has a nice list of pilots training for capitals as well, at least we dont have to see it however. -
Royaldo KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.26 22:04:00 - [103] ^^you have first hand experience with the goons?
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.11.26 22:15:00 - [104] Originally by: Vily The simple fact of this post is to be honest irrelevant. The goons will have lots of dread pilots over the next couple of months.... wow. You need to realize however, that in four months, the average battleship pilot can train about 90% of the required skills for a dread. Not counting those that already can. In four mmonths, the goons may have thirty dreads, their enemies will likely have fifty. On top of all that you need to be able to provide these pilots with said dreads, and fittings and skills, at around or over 2 billion isk each, which is not a simple process. and there is also something to be said for combat experience. The first time the goons bring out a big dread fleet might also be the first time the loose a big dread fleet. One of the incredibly powerful elements of goonfleet has always been their low-end setups. a rifter or a thorax only costs a few dollars yet is moderatly effective at the roles you set it in. A dread or even a battleship, is a much more substantial loss, especially when you factor in tech II equipment. This post seems wholly un-necessary as it does not do anything from either side. Im sure LV has a nice list of pilots training for capitals as well, at least we dont have to see it however. This is not entirely true, they do have some experience to fall back upon: such as that of KIA, who worked for them, and hence gave them some idea how to use dreads and protect them. Then of course they have Red Alliance to help as well, with even richer experience using dreads. ------------------ Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it? Save Tranquility!
TrippyX The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.26 23:15:00 - [105] Edited by: TrippyX on 26/11/2006 23:16:22 linkage that x 10 gonna be an awesome lagshow
Effective Overseer Amarr	Posted - 2006.11.26 23:48:00 - [106] Good, good! 1)Thank goodness for legal (and non) methods to purchase isk, you're able to have afforded all those skills, and then the dreads & mods & fuel on top. Go team! 2)Once you afford them, take them all out on an op at once for some 'shock & awe', and even get some fraps. With all that tank & fire power, you shouldn't be needing anything else I would presume...
Vrizuh Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.27 03:05:00 - [107] If ppl post with alts in a forum they're not supposed to, clearly flaming/inciting flames, they should have their main revealed -_- Its not like CCP is releasing a real name or address. Just flushing out the wimps. In other news, grats to goons and please don't pod me again. Its traumatic =( Plus Im allergic. ------------------------------------- Since entering 0.0 I've noticed my wallet slowly crawl towards 0.00. Coincidence? I think not
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.11.27 03:40:00 - [108] Originally by: Effective Overseer Good, good! 1)Thank goodness for legal (and non) methods to purchase isk, you're able to have afforded all those skills, and then the dreads & mods & fuel on top. Go team! -Whom are you talking about? -Proof or STFU, thats really all the answer unrecognized alts deserve ------------------ Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it? Save Tranquility!
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.27 05:13:00 - [109] Originally by: Audrea Originally by: Effective Overseer Good, good! 1)Thank goodness for legal (and non) methods to purchase isk, you're able to have afforded all those skills, and then the dreads & mods & fuel on top. Go team! -Whom are you talking about? -Proof or STFU, thats really all the answer unrecognized alts deserve Basically the RUMOR (Read : Rumor, I have no proof) is that they are with an affiliate selling GTCs through their site to alliance members. They use the money generated through this to buy more GTCs which they sell. End result is that each goonie still pays his 15$ a month for access (sometimes less for EU) while the alliance gets billions of isk on the side. Last Weeks Signature
Vrizuh Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.27 06:12:00 - [110] Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Audrea Originally by: Effective Overseer Good, good! 1)Thank goodness for legal (and non) methods to purchase isk, you're able to have afforded all those skills, and then the dreads & mods & fuel on top. Go team! -Whom are you talking about? -Proof or STFU, thats really all the answer unrecognized alts deserve Basically the RUMOR (Read : Rumor, I have no proof) is that they are with an affiliate selling GTCs through their site to alliance members. They use the money generated through this to buy more GTCs which they sell. End result is that each goonie still pays his 15$ a month for access (sometimes less for EU) while the alliance gets billions of isk on the side. So they sell to their own alliance, and that gains the alliance billions of isk? er... You can't get your 30 days access & your isk. Its one or the other for the $15. If they're making billions of isk, as well as receiving $$, then the gtcs are being sold, and subscriptions also being paid for. ------------------------------------- I came. I mined. I fled. I mined. I fled. I mined some ore. I fled once more. War is hell!
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.27 06:40:00 - [111] Originally by: Vrizuh So they sell to their own alliance, and that gains the alliance billions of isk? er... You can't get your 30 days access & your isk. Its one or the other for the $15. If they're making billions of isk, as well as receiving $$, then the gtcs are being sold, and subscriptions also being paid for. Yes, you can. First you sign up with a GTC distributor to be an affiliate. This nets you a small percentage of the real-life money people pay for a GTC. This money is pooled to buy GTCs that are then sold for isk. Last Weeks Signature
DarkFenix Caldari Pilots From Honour	Posted - 2006.11.27 09:26:00 - [112] I reckon some megacorp like BIG should start up a big bet surrounding this. Perhaps something along the lines of guessing how many dreads BoB will pop in the first week of the war . I'm sure BoB are excited over the prospect of so many big targets to kill (after all I'm sure it must get boring slaughtering ASCN's fleets so easily).
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.11.27 09:53:00 - [113] Originally by: Vrizuh Originally by: Aeaus Originally by: Audrea Originally by: Effective Overseer Good, good! 1)Thank goodness for legal (and non) methods to purchase isk, you're able to have afforded all those skills, and then the dreads & mods & fuel on top. Go team! -Whom are you talking about? -Proof or STFU, thats really all the answer unrecognized alts deserve Basically the RUMOR (Read : Rumor, I have no proof) is that they are with an affiliate selling GTCs through their site to alliance members. They use the money generated through this to buy more GTCs which they sell. End result is that each goonie still pays his 15$ a month for access (sometimes less for EU) while the alliance gets billions of isk on the side. So they sell to their own alliance, and that gains the alliance billions of isk? er... You can't get your 30 days access & your isk. Its one or the other for the $15. If they're making billions of isk, as well as receiving $$, then the gtcs are being sold, and subscriptions also being paid for. hmm, this is VERY interesting stuff to say the least! How does one go about to become an affiliate??? Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it? Save Tranquility!
Ace101 Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.27 12:48:00 - [114] Originally by: Unfamed II I agree. Can't really say the node crashes have been a smooth ride. Now, tell me something; what purpose does 150 T1 frigs and cruisers serve against 150 T2 bs? What can you achieve by that, except lag? heh, i hate to break your mood but i have lots of fraps of frigates annihilating your T2 BSs... go goonies!
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.27 12:58:00 - [115] If anyone is ever beginning to take the Goons seriously, all one needs to do is look at the "destroyed items" of a BS kill and get an idea of how they set up their ships. Any confidence in them quickly fades. About all the Goons can do well is catch people off guard and beat them 100 vs. 1 in the odd event that someone jumps into them. Otherwise they die (in great numbers) or log off at the first sign of danger. As for Goons having 20 million skill points, I'm guessing most of them will have moved onto other organizations/games by that point because their style of play can't be gratifying in any way. Unless they really are only as intelligent as bees. I'm sure bees never question their meaningless lives or ponder whether stinging a threat, and thus killing themselves, is "worth it."
Heldane Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.11.27 14:24:00 - [116] Haven't the goons been fighting pretty much non stop since their war with D2 in XZH back in June or July? Seems to me that they probably have alot more experience than alot of the "elite" alliances out there by now. I find it funny how we constantly see pilots from LV talk of "pwning" the goons left and right and yet it is only the southern coalition that is losing POSes by the handful every week. I think these two alliances are playing differant games. The goons obviously don't care about kill/death ratios and are more concerned with objectives and end results, whereas LV considers said statistics the be all end all of the conflict. LV you may win many of the battles but I have some news for you. It really appears that you are losing the war.
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.27 14:40:00 - [117] I don't get involved in any of the POS business but I will say that if "winning the war" requires me to use Goon tactics, being a meatshield and blobbing to shoot at a POS for hours, then personally, I'd rather "lose the war." I'm working out of a system where sovereignty does not matter and I really am enjoying slaughtering Goons/RA left and right. If you call actually enjoying the game "losing," then I'll "lose" any day of the week. And in theory, since POS-wars are meaningless to me, and I do a lot of solo/small group fighting and that IS Eve to me, I can never lose as long as I have ISK. And I have a lot of ISK. At the rate which RA/Goon destorys my ships (they do not) I'll be able to fight them forever.
Happydayz FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:20:00 - [118] Originally by: Audrea hmm, this is VERY interesting stuff to say the least! How does one go about to become an affiliate??? via Shattered Crystal. Just go to their website the link is right there. IIRC goonfleet was bringing in several billions a month when they first started the program. It's reasonable to assume that it is bringing in significantly more now. Heldane: the war has pretty much stabilized at the current boundaries now that RA has the task of digging out alliances from systems that are actually competently defended.
KIATolon Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:27:00 - [119] Originally by: Alowishus I don't get involved in any of the POS business but I will say that if "winning the war" requires me to use Goon tactics, being a meatshield and blobbing to shoot at a POS for hours, then personally, I'd rather "lose the war." I'm working out of a system where sovereignty does not matter and I really am enjoying slaughtering Goons/RA left and right. If you call actually enjoying the game "losing," then I'll "lose" any day of the week. And in theory, since POS-wars are meaningless to me, and I do a lot of solo/small group fighting and that IS Eve to me, I can never lose as long as I have ISK. And I have a lot of ISK. At the rate which RA/Goon destorys my ships (they do not) I'll be able to fight them forever. Congratulations, in your illustrious eve career you've racked up a mightly 18 GF kills (no final blows). I've killed more in a single op for not aligning or focus firing.
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:44:00 - [120] 1) I've only been back playing for a few weeks after several months off. 2) I don't know what you're talking about not having any final blows on RA/Goons. This simply isn't true. 3) My PvP time is limited to weekends. So most of my kills come from the three or so ops I have been on since I've been back.
Heldane Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.11.27 17:16:00 - [121] I was rooting for the coalition at the beginning of this conflict. Unfortunately all the board warrioring and smack talk from them has made me more of a nuetral observer. LV would be better served by following the goon's example and shutting up on the forums. The chest beating is a little ridiculous especially when in one post you proudly proclaim how awesome you are and how you are killing your enemies in droves and in the next you say it is a stalemate. Killing dozens goons is nothing to brag about. They often lose ships on purpose from all appearances. Start taking back some of the space you've lost THEN come talk about it if you must, but really you guys have become as bad as BoB of late, worse really because BoB actually wins the wars they get into. I've taken some time to observe your killboard and to be honest I was not really impressed. The stations and assetts you have lost far supercede anything the reds and the goons have lost.
Effective Overseer Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.11.27 18:46:00 - [122] Originally by: Audrea Originally by: Audrea Originally by: Effective Overseer Good, good! 1)Thank goodness for legal (and non) methods to purchase isk, you're able to have afforded all those skills, and then the dreads & mods & fuel on top. Go team! -Whom are you talking about? -Proof or STFU, thats really all the answer unrecognized alts deserve hmm, this is VERY interesting stuff to say the least! How does one go about to become an affiliate??? Oh, suddenly you're interested. What happened to the "no proof!" "STFU" & all the tough-talk? Anyway, it was obvious they got the cash infusion from somewhere, having gone from rags to 60+dreads, skills & mods within weeks, don't you think? Also, I don't feel the GTC plan is wrong in any way. However, as they say, "Easy come, easy go."
Sneetches Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.27 22:44:00 - [123] Edited by: Sneetches on 27/11/2006 22:45:29 I for one hope this is true. Hopefully this will lead to cap ship fights and a new level of fleet combat. The are a couple problems to having a cap ship fleet that size though wich is logistics. It takes a large, dedicated, and very serious logisitics force to support a fleet that size. Smack aside, no one really underestimates goon potential, but nor do we overestimate it. They die by the bucket full without RA's help and that hasn't changed. On their own, they would be formidable, but also formidable would be their own ability (or inability) to focus fire, organize fleets past a mindless blob, and hold space on their own. They have alot of miletsones to pass before they've earned the distinction of being "alliance kllers" like some of the fanboyz state. Meanwhile, bring on the dreads. Should be a hoot. - Snee "Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready!"

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