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Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:02:00 - [31] Snip So the fair question is: Those 2 corps that left accounted for at least 1300 members? At least from reading what I have on this and other threads the loss of approximately that many members is already pretty well set in stone. So, is it true? 2 corps = 1300 members?
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:15:00 - [32] Edited by: Slowboat on 17/11/2006 20:17:23 Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Snip So the fair question is: Those 2 corps that left accounted for at least 1300 members? At least from reading what I have on this and other threads the loss of approximately that many members is already pretty well set in stone. So, is it true? 2 corps = 1300 members? Don't ask a ridiculous question. In any alliance in war you are going to have faint hearts that run back to empire. I don't particularly see ASCN complaining about those people leaving. Do you? Your also probably talking about Spies that have been found and booted, Members who have been inactive to long getting cleaned out by corps and so forth. It isn't all attributed to the war as BOB would like people to think, I'm sure.
Drusus Rensus Gallente Klima Galactic	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:16:00 - [33] Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 17/11/2006 19:46:08 Originally by: Synapse Archae So, what I'm getting out of this is that NO ONE HAS LEFT ASCN. They are just permanently reorganizing in empire. 1300 members(trial ofc., it was planned anyway) left since conflict started. Attrition on the BoB side would be a lot harder to measure, wouldn't it, since you collaborate closely with corps that aren't "official" members of BoB? For example, I noticed in the recruitment section that Constructive Influence has the "Help Wanted" sign out for people to work Delve. Is that partly due to wartime attrition?
TornSoul BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:20:00 - [34] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Snip So the fair question is: Those 2 corps that left accounted for at least 1300 members? At least from reading what I have on this and other threads the loss of approximately that many members is already pretty well set in stone. So, is it true? 2 corps = 1300 members? You're insinuating that ASCN are lying about just two member corps leaving? Seems you're forgetting the obvious, that individual corps will also shed members - Which doesnt mean that the corp itself is leaving the alliance. BIG Lottery [u
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:21:00 - [35] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Snip So the fair question is: Those 2 corps that left accounted for at least 1300 members? At least from reading what I have on this and other threads the loss of approximately that many members is already pretty well set in stone. So, is it true? 2 corps = 1300 members? You're insinuating that ASCN are lying about just two member corps leaving? Seems you're forgetting the obvious, that individual corps will also shed members - Which doesnt mean that the corp itself is leaving the alliance. Its quite possible there has also been a clearing-out of alts. I remember when CLS had hit 600 members a while back, and not long after dropped to just about 350 with a major alt clearing. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
TornSoul BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:22:00 - [36] Edited by: TornSoul on 17/11/2006 20:24:09 Excactly In times of war, it's not unusual to compare the "involvement" of corps with the amount of members they have. More members, more involvement is "demanded". Corps (with "slack" clean up rutines) realise this, and suddenly hurry to shed some inactives. Nothing too surprising about that really. BIG Lottery [u
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:29:00 - [37] Quote: So the fair question is: Those 2 corps that left accounted for at least 1300 members? At least from reading what I have on this and other threads the loss of approximately that many members is already pretty well set in stone. So, is it true? 2 corps = 1300 members? I am speaking out turn but I hate to see inacurate information going out. Just after the war started all corps were asked to "clean up" their rosters so HC could get a more accurate accounting of available pilots and resources. This "clean up" included getting rid of inactives, unused alts or "part time" alts (those used for empire activities). If you add in that purge with the ANZAC folks leaving I could easily see 1300 being reached. A side effect of war is that you get leaner which like real life can be a good thing.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.17 20:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Farham A side effect of war is that you get leaner which like real life can be a good thing. This I agree with. Originally by: Farham Just after the war started all corps were asked to "clean up" their rosters so HC could get a more accurate accounting of available pilots and resources. This "clean up" included getting rid of inactives, unused alts or "part time" alts (those used for empire activities). If you add in that purge with the ANZAC folks leaving I could easily see 1300 being reached. If this is indeed true then your alliance being "fat(ter)" than we imagined is, let me say, an understatement. gg for doing it, if it is true, but I struggle to accept it.
Trask Kilraen The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.17 21:38:00 - [39] Originally by: RichThugster The Older Gamers may possibly on their way to leaving. Let me assure you that TOG is NOT leaving ASCN. TOG is a mixed corp of industrials and PVPers. And some of our industrial toons are in low sec conducting operations to support the war effort. TOG has been, and will continue to be, in the frontline of this war as much as possible.
Dracorimus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.17 21:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Trask Kilraen Originally by: RichThugster The Older Gamers may possibly on their way to leaving. Let me assure you that TOG is NOT leaving ASCN. TOG is a mixed corp of industrials and PVPers. And some of our industrial toons are in low sec conducting operations to support the war effort. TOG has been, and will continue to be, in the frontline of this war as much as possible. Amen to that ! Thats the spirit !! - Ferocious FeAr > bob are****got pussies Admiral Goberius > taking advantages of bugs again? /me applauds
Mace Ardguy Dark Wheel	Posted - 2006.11.17 22:08:00 - [41] Through a long-time friend I know that one of the smaller corps was 170members, went through their rosters and cleaned out so many members no-one had seen around they then stood at about 80 known 'actives'. This isn't BoB putting pressure on them, this is plain and simple housekeeping. Perhaps just been too lazy to go through it all before the war..? People leaving are to be expected at any time like this. If anything, and up to a point, it will streamline things I would imagine.
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.17 22:21:00 - [42] Originally by: Farham Quote: So the fair question is: Those 2 corps that left accounted for at least 1300 members? At least from reading what I have on this and other threads the loss of approximately that many members is already pretty well set in stone. So, is it true? 2 corps = 1300 members? I am speaking out turn but I hate to see inacurate information going out. Just after the war started all corps were asked to "clean up" their rosters so HC could get a more accurate accounting of available pilots and resources. This "clean up" included getting rid of inactives, unused alts or "part time" alts (those used for empire activities). If you add in that purge with the ANZAC folks leaving I could easily see 1300 being reached. A side effect of war is that you get leaner which like real life can be a good thing. Fair answer. Thank you very much.
Olgzr Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.17 22:34:00 - [43] Question is..how many bob slave corps have run to empire?
Sathrai Unlimited Blade Works	Posted - 2006.11.17 22:41:00 - [44] Originally by: Olgzr Question is..how many bob slave corps have run to empire? As long as they keep being good little vassals and paying their rent in isk or kind, I doubt it really matters.
Eskalin Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:27:00 - [45] WE HAVE SLAVES? why wont they shine my vagg?
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:49:00 - [46] Originally by: Olgzr Question is..how many bob slave corps have run to empire? By the number of secure cans hanging about empire belts with ASCN tags on it looks like the ASCN corps are finding life in Empire more to their liking. So thats a question easily answered but I guess that is not one you wanted asked.
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:51:00 - [47] Edited by: Shardrael on 17/11/2006 23:51:29 Originally by: Drusus Rensus Yeah, that would be pretty consistant with what I said above. Those leaving are saying aw, sh, a war with BoB. The ones joining are saying oh yeah!, a war with BoB. In the end, if you manage to pull it together, you may end up with an alliance with a better mix of players for the environment that you are in (i.e. they enjoy, rather than dread, hostilities). If that happens, BoB did you a huge favor. just wanted to emphasize this as it falls in line with a point I was trying to make back when the war started, there are alot of enemies of both sides sitting around like vultures hoping to pick on a corpse of one side or the other after this word, what many fail to realize is that this war could end with one or both sides being signifigantly better off then they started, thereby those "vultures"(mean that with no disrespect I just think its an accurate description) may have missed there chance to tango with those they want to fight. just a minor rambling but wanted to emphasize it a bit, anyhow carry on Originally by:** Pinky Denmark Caldari have other options like using rails or train for other ships/weapons...
riana maldun	Posted - 2006.11.17 23:53:00 - [48] Originally by: Omega Man Originally by: Olgzr Question is..how many bob slave corps have run to empire? By the number of secure cans hanging about empire belts with ASCN tags on it looks like the ASCN corps are finding life in Empire more to their liking. So thats a question easily answered but I guess that is not one you wanted asked. you may consider that easily answered, but I say if you judge a corp or alliance of a signifigant size by the amount of secure cans they have anywhere you are making one hell of an assumption.
desolator Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 00:03:00 - [49] Originally by: Olgzr Question is..how many bob slave corps have run to empire? I find the term Slave corps rather distasteful and disrespectful, frankly i dont see what makes alliances and corps allied or napped to BoB slaves, they pay nothing to us at all. I could go around calling Prime Orbital Systems ASCN Slaves just becuse of the reason they are allied and support you in the war, but i dont due to respect towards Ascn and Pos, which i must say is getting lower by the day, this quite irrelevant but i felt i had to say something _________________________________________________________
Jotan Veer Wings of Turul Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 00:08:00 - [50] Originally by: Omega Man By the number of secure cans hanging about empire belts with ASCN tags on it looks like the ASCN corps are finding life in Empire more to their liking. Sir, I have personally left at least 5 giant secure cans in Tribute, I bet they are still littering [RAWR] space and flying the ASCN flag after 6+ months...at least according to the corp assests page they are still there. That doesn't mean that we are mining into them or something.
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 01:11:00 - [51] Somebody from ASCN do me a favor and find the forum post or blog that had to do with the alt and inactive purge earlier. Then bump it. Then post the link here. Then the BoB forum spies can read it. Then the BoB forum spies can report back to the folks in BoB with the post and the date, and "If it's true" stuff can cease, and we can all move on with our lives. Thank you in advance. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.
The Fiddler Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 01:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Gungankllr .............. Whatever happened to your 'investigation' into the lies that dbp posted?
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.11.18 01:38:00 - [53] Originally by: The Fiddler Originally by: Gungankllr .............. Whatever happened to your 'investigation' into the lies that dbp posted? 1. "you're crying about that?" 2,3. "I'll have to ask high command and get back to you."
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 01:39:00 - [54] Originally by: The Fiddler Originally by: Gungankllr .............. Whatever happened to your 'investigation' into the lies that dbp posted? Originally by: Rod Blaine Gungan, and others, you can stop it. This is useless. We could discuss about what is said, what implied and whether it was supposed to represent opinion or fact for weeks here and it's not going to lead to anything. People have seen enough to draw their conclusions about this part of the whole saga now. So let's leave the excuses and fighting about them for next part ok ? And yes, this thread was posted by a BoB member yes. I know, he knows, the rest of the world can see it. It doesn't really matter. Soon enough there'll be an opportunity to do some forum fighting over new issues. Let's keep the inspiration for then ok ? In the mean while I suggest we get on with things and leave this subject to die. I was still planning on gathering the info on this, and presenting it here. I had talked to a grand total of 6 people that morning before going to work, and then off to work I went. If anybody has forgotten, I work for the U.S. Government, and I don't surf personal internet on government time. So I get back from work, and I find some bush league crap Ria (Hi Dallia btw) has posted about me. Originally by: Ria Sotori Gung, When I first posted this I truly tried to softball it to you by picking 3 of the hardest to refute I could to keep you from getting in trouble with ASCN HC by admitting to them. You missed the boat Arguing semantics on the first one when you know its been reiterated and expanded on by your HC several times and on this very forum at least 14 (I counted before I posted) times by your side was truly bad spin. The old "ill get back to you" on the other 2 are even sadder. Youve given me all the answer I need as well as the rest of the forum viewers so thank you at least for that. Its amusing at least to see how fast all the fan bois tried to derail the thread. Oh one last thing, S-H-E btw.. only dude around here is the one i kicked out of bed first to make the coffee this morning Mods pls clicky this thread its done. We used to call that "Ring and run" when I was in grade school. I haven't decided if I really care about what anybody in BoB thinks right now, nor if I really care to prove anything to anyone in BoB after that crap. The one and only thing I care about in this game is my sense of loyalty and my sense of honor. You guys just crapped all over both. Provide me with an argument why I should bother with you. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.
Eldwinn Royal Hiigaran Navy Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 01:52:00 - [55] Originally by: Braaage Originally by: jernej Can you give us a name of a corp that joined ASCN since the war started ? /me hopes not to get flamed by a 3 day old alt Royal Hiigaran Navy [RHNVY] have joined ASCN since the war started. This would be correct.
John McCreedy Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 02:02:00 - [56] Originally by: Coasterbrian Edited by: Coasterbrian on 17/11/2006 11:12:33 -ANZAC Alliance bailed. They were a trial corp, so no harm, no foul. -Esquadra Alpha was kicked because they haven't been active at all as part of the alliance since pretty much the day they joined. Another trial corp. -One or two corps have been merged into larger corps. TOGCO are merging into IXC. However, we have accepted three new corps so far and have applications from 40 others which I believe Cyvok will deal with when he's back Make a Difference
Sirius A Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.18 04:32:00 - [57] Edited by: Sirius A on 18/11/2006 04:32:46 The increase of war activities has helped ASCN deal with larger scale warfare. Other then that...business as usual Thanks BOB
rodgerd Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.18 07:32:00 - [58] Originally by: Eskalin WE HAVE SLAVES? why wont they shine my vagg? Too busy polishing knobs? -- Not the opinions of my corp or my alliance.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 08:01:00 - [59] Originally by: Gungankllr I haven't decided if I really care about what anybody in BoB thinks right now, nor if I really care to prove anything to anyone in BoB after that crap. The problem for you is that you said you would do it in public. By now not doing so it looks like you have something to hide. No matter how valid you may think your reasons for not answering the questions, any attempt to justify yourself will look like you are trying to squirm out of doing so. I know that it isn't fair to be viewed in that light, and if you were "just another" ASCN member, then the matter would probably have already been forgotten. However, that is not the case. You have been made the official mouth of ASCN. That confers upon you a certain level of accountability, at least if you wish to retain credibility. There are a whole host of things that ASCN have said to their membership which are, at best, unrealistically optimistic extrapolations of the facts. Now frankly I could care less about them. They amuse me, but that is all. It isn't me you are lying to. I care less about being the subject of deceit than being the victim of it. I assume that many in ASCN are probably of the same mind. Whilst spoonfeeding them an alternative view of events may keep them under the thumb in the short-term, when the reality of the situation becomes obvious to them, then the price of misinformation will be seen. I have no doubt that propoganda has already caused members to leave ASCN. Not, as you might imagine, that of BoB, but rather the propoganda that HC has used on ASCN. It is one thing to lie to the general Eve public (hi mom), but quite another to lie to your membership. Do HC have no respect towards their membership at all? No wonder some of them are packing their bags and moving out! The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.18 08:07:00 - [60] Originally by: Olgzr Question is..how many bob slave corps have run to empire? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421980 Here is your answer. Plus stop calling them slaves, but vid might change your opinion -------- The BoB model is bad for business. Incidently the BoB model is more suited for a game such as WoW where as the ASCN model more suited for Eve. McGreedy

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