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Pezzle
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 00:05:00 -
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I find it funny that CVA is being accused of logging out or only being active while you are sleeping when the same would most certainly apply to BE.
We see 1 BE log in, then log off, rinse, repeat. Then the alt corps and all the games. Sure, you may be good at what you do, but you also pack it in after a ship loss. One ship down and the lot of you safe/log for hours/the night.
I would not call the numbers particularly impressive, I would not heap praise. The real fact is that business went on as usual while you were afk doing whatever it is you do.
Have fun at your next stop
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: James Snowscoran on 18/11/2006 00:14:57 BE are no doubt very good at what they do, chasing uber k/d ratios and racking up shitloads of kills. Personally, I think it's going a bit over the edge, but hey that's just me. Surely makes them hated and feared all over the universe, but somehow I don't think CVA was hurt very hard by this intrusion- they measure military success by other criteria than killboard stats afaik. -----
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Mah Kraah
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.18 00:28:00 -
[63]
name of unity pilot who saved his ship or pod by logging please (via eve mail to me, thy)
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:01:00 -
[64]
Originally by: James Snowscoran but somehow I don't think CVA was hurt very hard by this intrusion
Oh, not by a fair bit. It should be pointed out that CVA losses in comparison to the total (and admittedly impressive) list of Burn Eden kills was quite small. Some of the locals in our space however, probably got hit pretty hard when CVA couldn't be around or when they did not heed travel warnings. Not to mention the numerous folks from alliances deeper into 0.0 than Providence who travel through Providence to get to/from empire.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 18/11/2006 01:08:06 The reason BE werent pushed back is because its very easy to sit cloaked in a safe spot until a gang dispurses while the other two accounts you run on your three monitor setup are off fighting someone else.
I wouldnt brag too much about "dominating" our outpost system, gangs were told to either hunt someone else or go earn some isk as you posed no threat to any fixed assets and no real threat to our operations.
Mores the point, while we didnt have a perfect kill ratio vs Burn Eden, far from it infact. We do have two battleship kills on you on our boards, one for heinky and one for Evil Pookie. Which brings a lot of doubt to the validity of the rest of your stats you have so kindly provided.
I put the start dates into our killboards and this is what you get.
Assault Ship 0,5 Battleship 2,7 Capsule 2,11 Command Ship 1,0 Cruiser 0,8 Frigate 1,5 Interceptor 1,2 Interdictor 0,1
Material destroyed: 289.65M Material lost: 774.22M
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Der Pfaffe
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 17/11/2006 20:05:50 It started in 9UY at the start of the month. UNITY resistance was non existant, with BE forces dominating the system at all time. Even Ushra'Khan's capital ships could not push BE forces away and after almost loosing a Thanatos, UNITY launching any form of resistance. Moments of notice include killing the Brotherhood of Steel Obelisk in about 10 seconds (and him not logging!), then there were all the ASCN, UNITY, ISS, BOS and Slyph who logged to save their ships or save their pods.
Then came CVA, who resisted intially. But after loosing all the initial engagement, CVA resistance was limited to when BE was asleep. Still, the few CVA + friends that did travel were slaughtered with many logging off. No campaign in the history of BE has ever had so many enemies logging off. Every single alliance is responsible for their own members. You cannot blame this on rogue members when it is such a common occurance.
Anyway stats:
Snip... some impressive stats...
As you can see we pwned more than any other merc has done there recently, prooving once and for all how much better than KIA we are.
LOL.. You can't compare yourselves to KIA.. You call yourselves mercenaries when you are actually nothing more than pirates.
By your own admission you have no honour and care little for your "reputation", whereas for KIA, rightly or wrongly, our reputation is paramount.
BE as a corp are undoubtedly good at what you do, but you play "your" game in a totally different manner to KIA so comparisons are a waste of time. Should KIA, or any other reasonably competent PVP corp for that matter, decide to move into a 0.0 region and play the game the way you do, I am quite sure the results would be much the same or better in the case of KIA as there are more of us.
Get over yourselves you ain't all that ... 
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 18/11/2006 01:11:53
The reason BE werent pushed back is because its very easy to sit cloaked in a safe spot until a gang dispurses while the other two accounts you run on your three monitor setup are off fighting someone else.
I wouldnt brag too much about "dominating" our outpost system, gangs were told to either hunt someone else or go earn some isk as you posed no threat to any fixed assets and no real threat to our operations.
Mores the point, while we didnt have a perfect kill ratio vs Burn Eden, far from it infact. We do have two battleship kills on you on our boards, one for heinky and one for Evil Pookie. Which brings a lot of doubt to the validity of the rest of your stats you have so kindly provided. You claim to have only suffered the loss of one battleship through the whole campaign, yet Ushra'khan alone has two.
I put the start dates into our killboards and this is what you get.
Assault Ship 0,5 Battleship 2,7 Capsule 2,11 Command Ship 1,0 Cruiser 0,8 Frigate 1,5 Interceptor 1,2 Interdictor 0,1
Material destroyed: 289.65M Material lost: 774.22M
Heinky's battleship lost is not posted on our killboard. The reason for this is he warped from a safespot to an asteroid belt, and got sucked into a POS. Logs confirmed this and ship was immediately replaced.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jaykar Edited by: Jaykar on 18/11/2006 00:11:09 Roxanna Kell, for the record, that nighthawk u lost in a supposed 1v1 against me. You challenged me (because I am a younger pilot and you reckoned me to be an easy kill) I refused and u tried to jump me at the gate anyway. Since I hate you BE guys with a passion for spoiling my travels in CVA space I was quite happy to do my best to make sure u went down. For some reason you seemed surprised to have CVA jump in and help me out in this non-existant 1v1.
I love you too m8, keep it real my wigger ; p
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Heinky
Amarr BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Der Pfaffe
Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 17/11/2006 20:05:50 It started in 9UY at the start of the month. UNITY resistance was non existant, with BE forces dominating the system at all time. Even Ushra'Khan's capital ships could not push BE forces away and after almost loosing a Thanatos, UNITY launching any form of resistance. Moments of notice include killing the Brotherhood of Steel Obelisk in about 10 seconds (and him not logging!), then there were all the ASCN, UNITY, ISS, BOS and Slyph who logged to save their ships or save their pods.
Then came CVA, who resisted intially. But after loosing all the initial engagement, CVA resistance was limited to when BE was asleep. Still, the few CVA + friends that did travel were slaughtered with many logging off. No campaign in the history of BE has ever had so many enemies logging off. Every single alliance is responsible for their own members. You cannot blame this on rogue members when it is such a common occurance.
Anyway stats:
Snip... some impressive stats...
As you can see we pwned more than any other merc has done there recently, prooving once and for all how much better than KIA we are.
LOL.. You can't compare yourselves to KIA.. You call yourselves mercenaries when you are actually nothing more than pirates.
By your own admission you have no honour and care little for your "reputation", whereas for KIA, rightly or wrongly, our reputation is paramount.
BE as a corp are undoubtedly good at what you do, but you play "your" game in a totally different manner to KIA so comparisons are a waste of time. Should KIA, or any other reasonably competent PVP corp for that matter, decide to move into a 0.0 region and play the game the way you do, I am quite sure the results would be much the same or better in the case of KIA as there are more of us.
Get over yourselves you ain't all that ... 
Humm...... take kia and go to some random region and kill for 16 day, if u get better stats then Burn eden ill give u 3b isk so u can call it a conntract.
Convoy me ingame if u wanna start that conntract.
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Unfamed II
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra *sniprabble* As you can see we pwned more than any other merc has done there recently, prooving once and for all how much better than KIA we are.
KIA accepts mostly forum war contracts. And thumbs up to you guys, even if you're not my best friends, excellent results. Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
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Heinky
Amarr BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 18/11/2006 01:20:21
The reason BE werent pushed back is because its very easy to sit cloaked in a safe spot until a gang dispurses while the other two accounts you run on your three monitor setup are off fighting someone else.
I wouldnt brag too much about "dominating" our outpost system, gangs were told to either hunt someone else or go earn some isk as you posed no threat to any fixed assets and no real threat to our operations.
Mores the point, while we didnt have a perfect kill ratio vs Burn Eden, far from it infact. We do have two battleship kills on you on our boards, one for heinky and one for Evil Pookie. Which brings a lot of doubt to the validity of the rest of your stats you have so kindly provided. You claim to have only suffered the loss of one battleship through the whole campaign, yet Ushra'khan alone has two.
I put the start dates into our killboards and this is what you get.
Assault Ship 0,5 Battleship 2,7 Capsule 2,11 Command Ship 1,0 Cruiser 0,8 Frigate 1,5 Interceptor 1,2 Interdictor 0,1
Material destroyed: 289.65M Material lost: 774.22M
well let me first explain that i didnt post the bugg loss when it sucked me into a pos instead of warping me into the belt, gm,s gave me my raven back (i can show u the petition if u really want to) and the locals in 9uy said it had heppened to some ushra guys as well and all was good about that.
I dont wanna come out as smacking u but maybe some of your pilots have not posted their losses on your kb yet coz our show 12bs from ushrakhan down and loads of other ships in that period( wich can be seen on our kb,s and u can varify with your own members)so please look into it.
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Spiderweb
Caldari Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.18 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Spiderweb on 18/11/2006 03:54:47
Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 17/11/2006 20:05:50 It started in 9UY at the start of the month. UNITY resistance was non existant, with BE forces dominating the system at all time. Even Ushra'Khan's capital ships could not push BE forces away and after almost loosing a Thanatos, UNITY launching any form of resistance. Moments of notice include killing the Brotherhood of Steel Obelisk in about 10 seconds (and him not logging!), then there were all the ASCN, UNITY, ISS, BOS and Slyph who logged to save their ships or save their pods.
Then came CVA, who resisted intially. But after loosing all the initial engagement, CVA resistance was limited to when BE was asleep. Still, the few CVA + friends that did travel were slaughtered with many logging off. No campaign in the history of BE has ever had so many enemies logging off. Every single alliance is responsible for their own members. You cannot blame this on rogue members when it is such a common occurance.
Anyway stats:
Ship classKL Assault frigate150 Battlecruiser260 Battleship791 Capsule 2013 Carrier 00 Command ship22 Covert ops20 Cruiser 560 Destroyer00 Dreadnought00 Exhumer 00 Freighter10 Frigate 393 Heavy assault61 Industrial690 Interceptor283 Interdictor46 (inc alts ) Logistics00 Mining barge10 Mothership00 Recon ship61 Shuttle 240 Titan 00 Transport30
Start date:2006-11-01 End date:2006-11-17 Kills:570 Losses:14 Damage done (ISK):13247.3055M Damage received (ISK):749.715M Runtime:16 days Efficiency:94.64%
As you can see we pwned more than any other merc has done there recently, prooving once and for all how much better than KIA we are.
is that the best you guys could make for what really happened ? rofl
ok right.
Nice try on advertisment on a less than succesful endeavour that you guys dropped when losses started to mount up. As U'K' we did lose ships as we got by surprise at the beginning and then it was going all downhill for you guys. If only I knew you guys were on a contract!
nice gj, you watched Borat too often right ?
funny :)
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Heinky
Amarr BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Spiderweb Edited by: Spiderweb on 18/11/2006 03:57:27 Edited by: Spiderweb on 18/11/2006 03:54:47 nvm.
**** i was just about to point out how wrong u were :)
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 18/11/2006 04:13:28 I have much respect for many of the alliances we fight against. I like to think they have some respect for me and my corp mates as well. During this contract Unity was most impressive with thier fighting and determination. It was a fantastic couple of days, and I have the utmost respect for that Freighter Pilot that did not log out from our bubble. Then we went to R3.... First couple of days we made a few mistakes lost a few ships, but killing MUCH more than we lost. Even I ran into some trouble. It was just me and a dictor... (this is after I got my hate mail)... and an Arazu and a buddy dampened and scramed me. Yes SATAN saved my ass from a slow death 8). But then CVA dissapeared. We would log in and three of us would engage a group of 12 or more on the gate including BS and Hacs, and they would jump through. It quickly turned into omg BE RUN!!!! The kill stats are correct.
Thank you Unity for the fun, and CVA I can only say that I am very dissapointed in you 8( (I have never encountered so many pilots logging out)
WildCat
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Tetovo
Caldari Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces Thing is.. I don't hate you guys... you are probably very good pvpers in your own particular way...and there is a place in EVE for your particular kind of corp.
I mean can anybody imagine EVE without Burn Eden? you *are* an institution.
What I don't want to see, is the readers forgetting that you are fallible like the rest of us... and you do make mistakes.. the photoshop episode was a mistake.
Your portrayal of yourselves as the 'uberOMGwe pwn evrything in sight' corp is well .. just part of the picture.
If you had displayed a teeny weeny bit of humility in your OP, ShinRa I wouldn't have bothered to post....
When have you seen humility from BE? It's simply not their style.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 18/11/2006 04:56:29
Originally by: Tetovo
When have you seen humility from BE? It's simply not their style.
right here...
Originally by: DHB WildCat .... I have the utmost respect for that Freighter Pilot that did not log out from our bubble..... First couple of days we made a few mistakes lost a few ships, but killing MUCH more than we lost. Even I ran into some trouble. .....
... see how its not that difficult to augment one's credibility and pvp performance by acknowledging that the average reader has a higher IQ than a potato.
ShinRa and Satan both took turns to flame me in this thread, so they obviously do care what we think of them......no?
If the OP had chosen his words to indicate that their credibility was a little suspect but that the content was nevertheless true , then this thread would have been a much smoother ride.
Anyways.. pls continue..
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TZeer
Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.18 07:19:00 -
[77]
BE, could you point me to your killboard?
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 07:23:00 -
[78]
Nos Potato, is it too late to flame you?
I don't care what people think of me, I play eve nekid! 
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Nez Perces ... I'm sorry but its very hard to believe you had a contract. It is equally hard to believe your stats.
You burned whatever reputation you had as 'mercs' with the photoshop episode.
... and don't say " We don't give a **** " cause obviously you do, or you wouldn't have started this thread.
I guess its a good thing then that no one cares what you think.
Perhaps you should go make some more forum posts elsewhere.
Your acting like you own something or that your in a powerful poistion. Tbh I don't care what you say normally but when flaming on your own thread that makes me laugh. People can post whenever they want wherever they want so I don't see why your trying to tell him not to, your just making yourself look like a tit. Tbh you better leave the posting to someone who can actully post in your corp aka Shin Ra cause he does it alot better than you. Also I think more people listen to Nez then they will ever do to you...
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 09:50:00 -
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oh btw, nice stats BE.
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2006.11.18 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
You either love burn eden or you hate us. There is no in between.
Hey, I beg to differ. I don't agree with all the tactics you've made your success over the years but I gotta love the crybaby hatred and whineage you bring out in people.
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.11.18 10:46:00 -
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BE is so last year. -=====- Xorus is teh nub :D I heard that *beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar - Xorus |

Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:04:00 -
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please BE recruit ginger magician then u will be complete and take soren while youre at it
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Ikar Kaltin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:31:00 -
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I must admit that BE were annoying, however they did not dominate
Burn Eden were a slight annoyance, using some dirty tricks (i.e. log on traps, dictor alts in other corps etc, and they absolutly hate role play directed at them, in some cases the mere use of rp made them log, but they had their tactics down well so respect to them there.
Ikar
P.S. Im sure that God will forgive you for your sins one day Burn Eden, and you shall meet your fate at the end of the purifying light of Amarrian Lasers.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer BE, could you point me to your killboard?
No.
Our killboard is now private as its too great a source of information for our enemies.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces right here...
Originally by: DHB WildCat .... I have the utmost respect for that Freighter Pilot that did not log out from our bubble..... First couple of days we made a few mistakes lost a few ships, but killing MUCH more than we lost. Even I ran into some trouble. .....
... see how its not that difficult to augment one's credibility and pvp performance by acknowledging that the average reader has a higher IQ than a potato.
ShinRa and Satan both took turns to flame me in this thread, so they obviously do care what we think of them......no?
If the OP had chosen his words to indicate that their credibility was a little suspect but that the content was nevertheless true , then this thread would have been a much smoother ride.
Anyways.. pls continue..
Wildcat still has too much carebearism in him. Ex-AXE/Huzzah and recruited from FIX.
I do not care what you think. You are free to post whatever rubbish you want. But your making a fool of yourself. You really don't understand yet that anything bad that you or anyone else says about out does not effect us. We are top of the food chain and have no actual enemies worthy of note.
You can say whatever you want about us on the forums, but at the end of the day, its only words. In game, its us that comes hunting everyone else, not the other way around. Getting into ironic battle about who cares less show your hatred for us. I do not like you, but I can't come kill you in the game cause your some sort of alt. You do not like me, but you can't come kill me cause you are scared and I'm better than you.
Now you see why your wasting your time.
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Don ZOLA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:17:00 -
[87]
nice stats :)
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Taters
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:53:00 -
[88]
I still wanna know how you get 1500 damage per shot out of a 150mm AC II....
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Old Geeza
The Retirement Home
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Posted - 2006.11.18 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Taters I still wanna know how you get 1500 damage per shot out of a 150mm AC II....
logs? screens? fraps?
If it was against a freighter then for some reason shots get bugged and do absolutely insane damage - see one of farjung's video's where he practically one-volleyed away a freighters structure due to a bug.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.18 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Old Geeza
Originally by: Taters I still wanna know how you get 1500 damage per shot out of a 150mm AC II....
logs? screens? fraps?
If it was against a freighter then for some reason shots get bugged and do absolutely insane damage - see one of farjung's video's where he practically one-volleyed away a freighters structure due to a bug.
Yeah we had the same bug. A sabre outdamaged a thanatos! It wouldn't have mattered as the target was at least 10k off the gate and 6x webbed.
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