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Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:17:00 - [121] Originally by: Shin Ra Nobody has had any issues with this in the last 18 months, so what excatly is your problem? Your reputation took a huge hit with the photoshop episode... and yet you made no acknowledgement of it, instead chosing to post BE OMGwepwnzor stat thread #1235667 as if the whole photoshop episode had never happened. I just pointed out that I found it hard to believe you had a contract, which I am perfectly entitled to say.... given your lack of allowance for reasonable doubt and the last time you took centre stage on the forums. But you had to up the ante.. with Satan flaming me, and yourself having a go.. you wanna dance? we can dance.. but then don't sit there wondering why it happened.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:51:00 - [122] Originally by: swamp zyro I just want to say that you lost a commandship to an EPST raven, and a raven to an EPST POS XD Was the same pilot too. Correct. The absolution is counted in our stats. The other command ship we lost was a nighthawk to CVA. The raven was not counter, as mentioned earlier. Heinky warped to a belt and landed at your POS. This was clearly a bug of some sort, logs prooved it and ship was reimbursed.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 18:59:00 - [123] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Shin Ra Nobody has had any issues with this in the last 18 months, so what excatly is your problem? Your reputation took a huge hit with the photoshop episode... and yet you made no acknowledgement of it, instead chosing to post BE OMGwepwnzor stat thread #1235667 as if the whole photoshop episode had never happened. I just pointed out that I found it hard to believe you had a contract, which I am perfectly entitled to say.... given your lack of allowance for reasonable doubt and the last time you took centre stage on the forums. But you had to up the ante.. with Satan flaming me, and yourself having a go.. you wanna dance? we can dance.. but then don't sit there wondering why it happened. That all fine and well, and you can draw as much attention to that as you want. It wasn't a good thing, but it certainly wasn't a bad thing either. Do you think that before that we were some reliable and friendly pvp corp? No, we were the same people. The same smacktards who everyone else is so jealous of. As most of those quotes u posted earlier say, to those people we had no reputation anyway. So what does it matter? I still don't know why you are the only person making such a big deal of it. Fair enough if you want to get one over on us, but its really not effective at doing so. I don't know what you hope to accomplish by having a dance off, but have been verbally owned so many times already in this thread alone I'll at least give you an A for effort. And I am not sitting here puzzled as to why your making a fool of yourself continuously. Every time I make such a post there are always a few people who take it really personally and get involved in the flame wars afterwards. This time its you who chose the self-headshot. Live and learn.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:13:00 - [124] Originally by: Shin Ra Fair enough if you want to get one over on us, but its really not effective at doing so. My interest is to knock you down a peg or two.. its just healthy... or else your head might explode. Like Heinky said, readers will make their own minds up.... If it makes you happy to believe that everybody who disagrees with you is a smacktard and that 99% of the EVE community are noobs... well thats your prerrogative.. along with believing that you "verbally owned" this thread........ I'll let you get back to your little bubble of happiness now.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:18:00 - [125] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Shin Ra Fair enough if you want to get one over on us, but its really not effective at doing so. My interest is to knock you down a peg or two.. its just healthy... or else your head might explode. Like Heinky said, readers will make their own minds up.... If it makes you happy to believe that everybody who disagrees with you is a smacktard and that 99% of the EVE community are noobs... well thats your prerrogative.. along with believing that you "verbally owned" this thread........ I'll let you get back to your little bubble of happiness now. Your mistaken, I claimed to vebally own you, not the other people in this thread. Now I see you are backing off, thus confirming my above statement.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:21:00 - [126] Edited by: Nez Perces on 18/11/2006 19:25:27 Originally by: Shin Ra Your mistaken, I claimed to vebally own you, not the other people in this thread. Well you can claim whatever you wish can't you.... as this whole thread proves... I'm not backing off I'm trying to let our little vendetta subside, so you can have your thread back.. unless you wanna keep going like this all night? [edit:typo]
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:25:00 - [127] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Shin Ra Your mistaken, I claimed to vebally own you, not the other people in this thread. Well you can claim whatever you wish can't you.... as this whole thread proves... I'm not backing off I'm trying to let our little vendeta subside, so you can have your thread back.. unless you wanna keep going like this all night? I didn't realise how personal this was to you. Cya
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:28:00 - [128] Originally by: Shin Ra I didn't realise how personal this was to you. Cya .. its a figure of speech ShinRa... I should have put it in apostrophes, like so .... 'little vendetta'.... for the lack of a better term .
Badboy Geezer Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.18 19:50:00 - [129] nice stats BE. Only thing i dont like is when you dont post losses
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 20:12:00 - [130] Originally by: Badboy Geezer nice stats BE. Only thing i dont like is when you dont post losses We always post losses, first thing we do kill or die we post the mail. Only losses or kills we dont post is those on our alts. Our KB will not allow posting mails with no UDIE members involved, and trust me it sucks. My alt gets 10-15mails a day, and they do nothing but sit in my mailbox.
hantwo S.A.S	Posted - 2006.11.18 20:39:00 - [131] Originally by: Shin Ra We've had plenty of previous contracts posted on these forums with equally good stats and they have all been verified on our old killboard. With the obvious exception of our dictors. We do not keep them in noob corps to hide our losses, its for tactical reasons. Besides, now that our KB is private, what would be the point in hiding them? Also there was a dude from ASCN who said we faked his killmail. The NPCs stole it and he refused to give us a copy so we made one up for him. We copied the last mega we killed which had t2 gear, this guy had t1. So we obviously cheated there to make us look more uber... That about wraps up our fake killmails. thats pretty lame tbh
Masta Killa The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.18 20:50:00 - [132] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Shin Ra I didn't realise how personal this was to you. Cya .. its a figure of speech ShinRa... I should have put it in apostrophes, like so .... 'little vendetta'.... for the lack of a better term . Burn Eden owned you at some point in your short playtime of Eve and you're back with a vengeance, whining at them with tears in your eyes? We're all very impressed and stuff but arguing with you is like kicking roadkill. -------------------------------------- Different corp but we still show up and UDIE.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 20:56:00 - [133] Originally by: hantwo Originally by: Shin Ra We've had plenty of previous contracts posted on these forums with equally good stats and they have all been verified on our old killboard. With the obvious exception of our dictors. We do not keep them in noob corps to hide our losses, its for tactical reasons. Besides, now that our KB is private, what would be the point in hiding them? Also there was a dude from ASCN who said we faked his killmail. The NPCs stole it and he refused to give us a copy so we made one up for him. We copied the last mega we killed which had t2 gear, this guy had t1. So we obviously cheated there to make us look more uber... That about wraps up our fake killmails. thats pretty lame tbh We got the idea from your corp.
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:00:00 - [134] Originally by: Shin Ra The same smacktards who everyone else is so jealous of. I don't think anyone is 'jealous' of you as such. What you do is not difficult, it just takes patience and employing some pretty common sense tactics. It also takes a lot of play time. You do what you do well, but its really not that hard to do if you have a bit of intelligence. So much so, that I really don't know why more pirate corporations do not follow your lead. Lack of discipline, I suspect.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:05:00 - [135] Originally by: Masta Killa Burn Eden owned you at some point in your short playtime of Eve and you're back with a vengeance, whining at them with tears in your eyes? We're all very impressed and stuff but arguing with you is like kicking roadkill. My character's birth pre-dates yours by 4 months.. MK... find some other item to flame with... I know what you are gonna say next.. I'm a noob anyway .. yadda yadda yadda.. I don't think I have died at BE's hands either or if I did it was so long ago neither I nor anybody else can remember... if it happened it was certainly before Shin Ra started playing.
Masta Killa The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:15:00 - [136] Originally by: Nez Perces My character's birth pre-dates yours by 4 months.. MK... find some other item to flame with... I know what you are gonna say next.. I'm a noob anyway .. yadda yadda yadda.. I don't think I have died at BE's hands either or if I did it was so long ago neither I nor anybody else can remember... if it happened it was certainly before Shin Ra started playing. Spare me your life story, keep crying but know that one day you'll get over how badly Burn Eden owns you. -------------------------------------- Different corp but we still show up and UDIE.
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.18 21:57:00 - [137] This conversation is turning sour, its more fun to play eve i think. Medi evil 2, total war FTW. Quote: "Don't touch the RED butt
Mortuus Minmatar Just-fun Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.18 22:24:00 - [138] Looks like fun was had, good job. ex-Occassus Republica <3
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.20 16:19:00 - [139] lol. Nice thread. Good stats. Very nice in fact... how many of those kills were against CVA, just out of interest... and I'm not seeing any real sign of the meaningful battles you talk about when i try and piece together action on your killboard... but hey hoe, we both know those stats are very nice looking. On a side note. If you ever wanna bring your ickle corp down to wherever we are at the time, and set about trying to get some stats to share vs KIA (I'm sure there are plenty of people that will pay you to do so.. you can even call it a contract and post a stats thread at the end!) then feel free to do so But have no doubts, we will pod you n your corp mates like shooting fish in the proverbial barrell. Good at what you do? yup you are, better than KIA? dont make baby jesus cry with your silly statements, you couldnt hold a candle to any pilot I have in my ranks. (if you are to take up on this challenge, please wait till after the wcs nerf so we dont need 6 point stillettos to hold you down) xx KIA EVE Home
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.20 16:27:00 - [140] Nice stats. Good to see you added the dictor pilots to the loss stats also this time Max --------------------
ElCoCo KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.20 16:33:00 - [141] Looks like you had fun. I'm curious as to how those numbers in isk are calculated... compared to every other KB around you're off by a "few" bils
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus	Posted - 2006.11.20 16:52:00 - [142] pfft BE arent that important have been killed by em in the past was fun hunting em to. Raven + sensor damps really influenced my later successful fittings in various engagements Good luck in whatever u guys end up doing next - perhaps a raid on BOB space might be in order i wonder if ASCN have approached u yet to take a trip to delve
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.20 16:55:00 - [143] Originally by: ElCoCo Looks like you had fun. I'm curious as to how those numbers in isk are calculated... compared to every other KB around you're off by a "few" bils When Mordo and Liquidism modded the killboard, they changed the value of ships to what their REAL market value is to give a better indication of isk lost. Here is a few of the stats: Ship - Type - Points - Value in isk Vagabond Heavy assault 1.250 230.000.000 Vengeance Assault frigate 150 10.500.000 Vexor Cruiser 250 4.300.000 Vexor MK2 Unknown 0 4.377.500 Vexor Navy Issue Cruiser 250 240.000.000 Viator Transport 30 21.500.000 Vigil Frigate 50 105.000 Vigil MK2 Unknown 0 172.500 Vigilant Cruiser 250 9.300.000 Vigilant MK2 Unknown 0 8.000.000 Vindicator Battleship 1.000 950.000.000 Visitant Unknown 0 196.000 Vulture Command ship 1.500 98.000.000 Wolf Assault frigate 150 17.500.000 Worm Frigate 50 30.000.000 Wreathe Industrial 20 330.000 Wyvern Mothership 100.000 25.000.000.000 Zealot Heavy assault 1.250 175.000.000
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:01:00 - [144] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: ElCoCo Looks like you had fun. I'm curious as to how those numbers in isk are calculated... compared to every other KB around you're off by a "few" bils When Mordo and Liquidism modded the killboard, they changed the value of ships to what their REAL market value is to give a better indication of isk lost. Here is a few of the stats: Ship - Type - Points - Value in isk Vagabond Heavy assault 1.250 230.000.000 Vengeance Assault frigate 150 10.500.000 Vexor Cruiser 250 4.300.000 Vexor MK2 Unknown 0 4.377.500 Vexor Navy Issue Cruiser 250 240.000.000 Viator Transport 30 21.500.000 Vigil Frigate 50 105.000 Vigil MK2 Unknown 0 172.500 Vigilant Cruiser 250 9.300.000 Vigilant MK2 Unknown 0 8.000.000 Vindicator Battleship 1.000 950.000.000 Visitant Unknown 0 196.000 Vulture Command ship 1.500 98.000.000 Wolf Assault frigate 150 17.500.000 Worm Frigate 50 30.000.000 Wreathe Industrial 20 330.000 Wyvern Mothership 100.000 25.000.000.000 Zealot Heavy assault 1.250 175.000.000 /me forsees another argument about market value vs actual replacement value vs opportunity cost of internal T2 sales on killboards (head explodes) Max --------------------
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:06:00 - [145] Originally by: KIAEddZ lol. Nice thread. Good stats. Very nice in fact... how many of those kills were against CVA, just out of interest... and I'm not seeing any real sign of the meaningful battles you talk about when i try and piece together action on your killboard... but hey hoe, we both know those stats are very nice looking. On a side note. If you ever wanna bring your ickle corp down to wherever we are at the time, and set about trying to get some stats to share vs KIA (I'm sure there are plenty of people that will pay you to do so.. you can even call it a contract and post a stats thread at the end!) then feel free to do so But have no doubts, we will pod you n your corp mates like shooting fish in the proverbial barrell. Good at what you do? yup you are, better than KIA? dont make baby jesus cry with your silly statements, you couldnt hold a candle to any pilot I have in my ranks. (if you are to take up on this challenge, please wait till after the wcs nerf so we dont need 6 point stillettos to hold you down) xx If your trying to convince yourself that Black is White then fair enough. But I refuse to believe anyone in EVE, besides yourself, would be stupid enough to even entertain the thought that KIA is even close to as good as we are. As the lesser corp, the onus is on you to proove yourselves. We would not waste our time satifying egos, but you clearly have it all to proove so please try.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:09:00 - [146] Originally by: Max Teranous /me forsees another argument about market value vs actual replacement value vs opportunity cost of internal T2 sales on killboards (head explodes) I don't see what the problem is, D2 use the same system and if anything its more realistic. But to be honest, most people look the the number of ships killed not the isk damage done.
Der Pfaffe KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:36:00 - [147] In your original post you say this: Originally by: Shin Ra Edited by: Shin Ra on 17/11/2006 20:05:50 -stuff- As you can see we pwned more than any other merc has done there recently, prooving once and for all how much better than KIA we are. And then: Originally by: Shin Ra If your trying to convince yourself that Black is White then fair enough. But I refuse to believe anyone in EVE, besides yourself, would be stupid enough to even entertain the thought that KIA is even close to as good as we are. As the lesser corp, the onus is on you to proove yourselves. We would not waste our time satifying egos, but you clearly have it all to proove so please try. Despite all you say you are the ones who seem to have set KIA as the milestone against which you found it necessary to prove yourselves. It wasn't the other way round. Bullpooh aside... why not put your money where your big fat gob is and show EVE how much better than KIA you are?
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:40:00 - [148] Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Badboy Geezer nice stats BE. Only thing i dont like is when you dont post losses We always post losses, first thing we do kill or die we post the mail. Only losses or kills we dont post is those on our alts. Our KB will not allow posting mails with no UDIE members involved, and trust me it sucks. My alt gets 10-15mails a day, and they do nothing but sit in my mailbox. Why not just put your alts in the corp, it's not like they don't get known in very short order.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:46:00 - [149] Originally by: Hans Roaming Originally by: SATAN Originally by: Badboy Geezer nice stats BE. Only thing i dont like is when you dont post losses We always post losses, first thing we do kill or die we post the mail. Only losses or kills we dont post is those on our alts. Our KB will not allow posting mails with no UDIE members involved, and trust me it sucks. My alt gets 10-15mails a day, and they do nothing but sit in my mailbox. Why not just put your alts in the corp, it's not like they don't get known in very short order. Honor and respect versus kills and efficiency. I know which one I'd take every time.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.11.20 17:49:00 - [150] Originally by: Der Pfaffe Bullpooh aside... why not put your money where your big fat gob is and show EVE how much better than KIA you are? EVE already knows this statement to be true. KIA knows it too but will say anything to build their crappy reputation up again. If you want to proove yourself come get us. We will not waste our time chasing your around till you log off.

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