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Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:07:00 -
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Ahem, well don't think I've ever started a thread on this prestigious (hmmmn) section of the boards, let alone a flamewar as this will sadly probably become. . . But I'm curious about a conflict that I used to be a part of and the status of my two previous alliances, so here goes:
What's been going down in 1V-? Big blobs of destroyed ships on the map (earlier), talk of two (very) large fleet battles: The first playable and the second causing a node crash, I believe. People asking for RA/Goons to get their cap ships out on the boards, as well.
But now the map looks much calmer, a lot less destroyed ships and pilot numbers seem to have shifted back to C-J and the 1V- blob looks smaller.
So:
1 - Who's invloved? Just V/LV Vs RA/Goons or are others (TCF? IMP?) participating on either side (this is in 1V- I mean, not the conflict in general)?
2 - Any clear victories in the earlier battles (except the server ;p)?
3 - Any cap ships involved (apart from SSed Carriers/MSs assigning fighters obviously) in the 1V business yet? Also, as 1V- has only 5 moons are they all death-starred by V POS or not? Do RA/Goons have any up in 1V- yet?
3a - Heard LV lost a bunch of dreads the other day/week (source = CYVOK's audio blog) and a node crash was somehow involved, what's the story there?
4 - Anything happening with JLO or is it remaining in Goon hands for the forsee-able futute (my old home y'know :D)?
5 - How dare the south-east go an get interesting and fun after I gave up on it and left!?!?
6 - Anything else I've missed, or that anyone wants to add about 1V- atm or the conflict in general, please fire away.
Apologies for any typos, innacuracies or unintentional bias, it's late. Try and keep it factual and vaguely pleasant. It's a pretty huge, bitter conflict I know but it seems everyone's having fun atm so let's try and keep it civil, aye?
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Hast
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:23:00 -
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my first guess is it goes laggy 
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Jonaswpl
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:27:00 -
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RaSatan lost a Revelation.
Goonswarm got spanked in 1V.
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Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Hast
my first guess is it goes laggy
Hehe well yeah.
But actually, how well the servers are holding up post-upgrade is another point that I'd be pretty interested in. I guess it's "not well" given the node crash, though 
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: Hast
my first guess is it goes laggy
Hehe well yeah.
But actually, how well the servers are holding up post-upgrade is another point that I'd be pretty interested in. I guess it's "not well" given the node crash, though
A 100 vs 100 a week ago I was in caused a node crash 3 times within a 20 minute period. From what I hear this 200 vs 200 (roughly) "only" caused a crash once.
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Hudsonn
Minmatar
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hudsonn on 18/11/2006 01:32:38
IMP/TNT are in GW. red/goons/TCF are our allies. Kinda doing our own thing at the moment. No point in us all being in the same place. TCF i think are floating about between.
Things change everyday, so yeah it's hard to keep track on who's doing what and where. All good fun though, that's the main thing.
And of course, LV will tell ya that they've pwning everything, but mostly only on the forum. 
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:32:00 -
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I missed it all because my graphics card crapped out :(
Something in the region of 70 Enemy ships destroyed at the first battle in 1v just after DT (No Ideas on losses though, probably moderate given the concentration of ships), afaik all Deathstars have been saved, RA/Goon aborted the attack on 1v and hit RYC instead, after that I have no idea. Sounds like they are having fun though
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Chowdown
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:33:00 -
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"They get everything they deserve bringing all those numbers"
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Chowdown
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 18/11/2006 01:36:33
Originally by: Bazman
I missed it all because my graphics card crapped out :(
Something in the region of 70 Enemy ships destroyed at the first battle in 1v just after DT (No Ideas on losses though, probably moderate given the concentration of ships), afaik all Deathstars have been saved, RA/Goon aborted the attack on 1v and hit RYC instead, after that I have no idea. Sounds like they are having fun though
Where they put two POS in reinforced, and then we busted in, unsurprisingly they were off to the safe spots, unfortunatley this prompted the usual response. Lacking 2:1 they ran, not that 2:1 helps them much either.
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Jonaswpl
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:43:00 -
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And of course, LV will tell ya that they've pwning everything, but mostly only on the forum. Razz
Well if you had a clue then you would realize Goon got spanked in 1V on the 17th of November, 2006. In game and not on the forums.
Karma Police
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Vishnej
Demonic Retribution
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.18 01:50:00 -
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RaGoon brought out 25 cap ships and a fleet to put all five deathstars in 1V- into reinforced a day ago, coming out from 1 minute to 3 hours after downtime today.
VLV apparently trounced them this morning and killed quite a bit of their fleet. We have all five towers recharged, but no sovereignty in the system (which the senior GM[left hand] says is an exploit, but that's how it's worked for many months[right hand]).
Our respective fleets, once formed, went skirmishing with each other continuously for the rest of the day.
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Dragerest
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.18 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jonaswpl
RaSatan lost a Revelation.
Goonswarm got spanked in 1V.
please don't tell me losing one dread is spanked...
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MacIntyre
Monkeys with Guns
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Posted - 2006.11.18 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: MacIntyre on 18/11/2006 02:07:50
oops
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dragerest
Originally by: Jonaswpl
RaSatan lost a Revelation.
Goonswarm got spanked in 1V.
please don't tell me losing one dread is spanked...
Seperate actions actually, and well, 1 is better than none. RA are particularly good at securing systems long enough for their Dreads to stay out of harms way, by the time a fleet reacts to a Dread incursion they are packed up and gone. They also don't deploy dreadnoughts in hotzones, which is why the fights are bouncing around all the station systems in Scalding Pass atm.
It is actually quite fun, never thought I would say that :x
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McDan
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 02:10:00 -
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Pure unadulterated fun! Fighting outnumbered is way underrated. A lot of people say the goons are good but I have never seen anyone get so consistently spanked.
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Nanus Parkite
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 02:10:00 -
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With the fairly inflated price of T2 large guns these days capital ships are starting to become the cheaper option for budding fleet pilots :)
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MACTEP
Solar Dragons
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: MACTEP on 18/11/2006 02:12:35
RA\GOONS put all poses in reinforce mode before DT...
After DT claim was still -v-....GMs reject to reset claim and "as i know" said thats now pos in reinforce mode claim system!!!
So -v-\-lv- had 24 hours to repgroup...
After next DT system lost soviernity...Why? If reinforced poses STILL claim???
Omg it was "misstake"..Bug and etc..
Did Anybody have such bug? )))
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 03:00:00 -
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Before DT we had fun killing LV/-V-
Lots of stabs on -V- ships. They fight pointless engagements that cost them battleships. LV is providingn nowhere near enough ships to help their coallition members on a daily basis and most of them are Fatal Revelations... who usually fight like crap and run from 3 to 1 odds in favor of them.
So... that is my perspective of 1V- take it how you want it.
Team Minmatar
Carriers need Clone Vats
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Unfamed II
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 03:13:00 -
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Not exactly sure how the Revelation was killed, but I was listening TS while ppl had a go at it. Apparently he played dock-undock-dock game, and eventually got bumped out of docking range by some other RA dread/carrier. **** happens. And gank happened quickly after. Could someone confirm this?
Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
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dghdfgh
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: dghdfgh on 18/11/2006 04:07:08
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Hawkings SJ
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hudsonn
Edited by: Hudsonn on 18/11/2006 01:32:38
IMP/TNT are in GW. red/goons/TCF are our allies. Kinda doing our own thing at the moment. No point in us all being in the same place. TCF i think are floating about between.
Things change everyday, so yeah it's hard to keep track on who's doing what and where. All good fun though, that's the main thing.
And of course, LV will tell ya that they've pwning everything, but mostly only on the forum.
Among IMP, TFC, Goons & RA the only talent lies with RA. RA will probably get either parity or a positive kill ratio over the course of the war, IMP, TFC & Goons will do about as well as you expect filler alliances & meatshields to do on the battlefield.
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arkz67
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:19:00 -
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Edited by: arkz67 on 18/11/2006 04:20:26
Originally by: Jonaswpl
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And of course, LV will tell ya that they've pwning everything, but mostly only on the forum. Razz
Well if you had a clue then you would realize Goon got spanked in 1V on the 17th of November, 2006. In game and not on the forums.
Intrigued I decided to do some dectective work and put this dispute to the test.
According to the killboards of LV, Reds and Goons, looking at only the killmails on each (many alliances miss lots of lossmails off their kb but curiously no one ever seems to forget to post their kills), here are the losses for the 3 hours after downtime in 1V-
LV/V fleet:
14 BS lost, 8 belonging to LV
Goonswarm/allies fleet:
11 BS lost, 9 of which were goons
Hmm goons got spanked but lost less BS? im also told they held the field after both battles after LV warped out and scooped the loot?
and before you post about how many blackbirds you popped, I see a fair few HAC and Recon losses among your support losses, and all your BS were t2 unlike goons.
And then I also wonder why you are boasting about killing a RED Alliance capship a full day before in a system 6+ jumps away as something to do with what happened today?
I love you Vodka Lolterra, pure comedy as always 
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hawkings SJ
Among V, LV, KOS & CHIMP the only talent lies with LV. LV will probably get either parity or a positive kill ratio over the course of the war, V, CHIMP & other various alliances we tricked into allying with us will do about as well as you expect filler alliances & meatshields to do on the battlefield.
Fixed 
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Tacnafarias
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Unfamed II
he played dock-undock-dock game, and eventually got bumped out of docking range by some other RA dread/carrier.
RaSatan wasn't the only one playing the dock/undock game, but he was the only one that lost.
There were several RaGoon characters messing around in C-J that night with capitals. We played with a dread for a while but he had a solid tank, then a few more peeked their heads out including a Goon carrier that must have had triple reps on.
RaSatan first undocked in a carrier then brought his dread out. His demise came when he dropped Bouncer (sentry) drones and then couldn't scoop them.
Persistance paid off.
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Tacnafarias
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:35:00 -
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There was also a TCF gang bouncing about RYC today after 1v- was secured.
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Jonaswpl
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jonaswpl on 18/11/2006 04:44:59
Edited by: Jonaswpl on 18/11/2006 04:43:11
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please don't tell me losing one dread is spanked...
I don't see the word spanked in the phrase "RaSatan lost a Revelation."
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And then I also wonder why you are boasting about killing a RED Alliance capship a full day before in a system 6+ jumps away as something to do with what happened today?
Where did I mention a date in "RaSatan lost a Revelation?"
You do all this investigation and you still don't have a clue. Just because LV lost ships during the course of an entire day does not mean Goons did not get spanked during a fleet battle. How about I rephrase my original statement as "Goonswarm got spanked dirty, seriously wtfpwned during a fleet battle." Can you understand this phrase? And by the way, who are you?
Reading comprehension ftw.
Karma Police
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arkz67
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Posted - 2006.11.18 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jonaswpl
Just because LV lost ships during the course of an entire day does not mean Goons did not get spanked during a fleet battle. How about I rephrase my original statement as "Goonswarm got spanked dirty, seriously wtfpwned during a fleet battle." Can you understand this phrase?
Are you stupid?
The kill stats I posted are from the space of 2 hours after DT in the 1V- system, ie. when all the fighting was. They are clustered within the space of the 2 fleet battles, you can go on your own kb and look at the time stamps and the ships on them.
They are the results of the 2 fleet battles.
LV/V lost more BS, more isk worth of ships, warped off, Goon/allies held field, scooped loot, LV post on forums saying they spanked Goons/REDs? rofl.
Have you guys got bored of propaganda so just flat out lying now?
Why you even brought up that carrier you killed one day before all the action in 1V i'll never know. Havent you and V lost several cap ships in the last few weeks going by REDs kb?
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Jonaswpl
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 05:00:00 -
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Revelation = dreadnaught.
Goonswarm got spanked during the fleet battle in 1V.
Get mad.
Karma Police
Goons are being used. When will they realize it? |
arkz67
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Posted - 2006.11.18 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jonaswpl
Goonswarm got spanked during the fleet battle in 1V.
Get mad.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i love these forums. you just have to see them to believe them.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: arkz67
Edited by: arkz67 on 18/11/2006 05:06:25
Originally by: Jonaswpl
Goonswarm got spanked during the fleet battle in 1V.
Get mad.
hahahahahahaha
i love these forums.
I assume you do, just another alt troll. You do know you're not allowed to post in this forum section?
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