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arkz67
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Posted - 2006.11.18 05:20:00 -
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Im a troll for posting exactly what both sides had lost in a battle after one sides claims to have spanked the other?
Says everyhing about the intellect and character of most people who play this game this thread. I shall leave you to wallow.
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Papa Digger
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine
3 - Any cap ships involved (apart from SSed Carriers/MSs assigning fighters obviously) in the 1V business yet? Also, as 1V- has only 5 moons are they all death-starred by V POS or not? Do RA/Goons have any up in 1V- yet? 6 - Anything else I've missed, or that anyone wants to add about 1V- atm or the conflict in general, please fire away.
Day ago RA/Goons dreads put all towers in reinforce mode and system was in bloacade, but for 1 day in 1v system POS warfare rules was "suddenly changed" and reinforced POSes still claim sovereignty in system (so RA wasnt able for 1 day take station from V).. but in next day, when LV/V collect forces in system to protect it, old POS warfare rules suddenly back and claim in system was dropped. This siege left no fun, only anger on CCP and GMs.  ---- CEO. |

Unbeliever Kresmoreen
Communist Vikings Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.18 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: arkz67 Im a troll for posting exactly what both sides had lost in a battle after one sides claims to have spanked the other?
Says everyhing about the intellect and character of most people who play this game this thread. I shall leave you to wallow.
no, you're a troll for not having your corp/alliance ticker. likely not having either for a player corp. for attempting to start **** about a war you're not fighting and have no clue about.
That sort of thing.
We've done well to head off RAGOON & friends thus far. JLO was a necessary casualty. In straight up fleet on fleet battles, sans node crash/relog ganks (a'la last night, very untidy), we're coming out on top.
thanks for coming.
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dghdfgh
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Posted - 2006.11.18 06:56:00 -
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Edited by: dghdfgh on 18/11/2006 06:56:32
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ZaKma
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.11.18 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Zhaine
3 - Any cap ships involved (apart from SSed Carriers/MSs assigning fighters obviously) in the 1V business yet? Also, as 1V- has only 5 moons are they all death-starred by V POS or not? Do RA/Goons have any up in 1V- yet? 6 - Anything else I've missed, or that anyone wants to add about 1V- atm or the conflict in general, please fire away.
Day ago RA/Goons dreads put all towers in reinforce mode and system was in bloacade, but for 1 day in 1v system POS warfare rules was "suddenly changed" and reinforced POSes still claim sovereignty in system (so RA wasnt able for 1 day take station from V).. but in next day, when LV/V collect forces in system to protect it, old POS warfare rules suddenly back and claim in system was dropped. This siege left no fun, only anger on CCP and GMs. 
Pot. Kettle. Black. 
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Anonymous Coward
Gallente Panopticon Citadel
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Posted - 2006.11.18 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran I assume you do, just another alt troll. You do know you're not allowed to post in this forum section?
If somebody posted in affirmation of the commutative property of addition on these forums with an alt, I have no problem believing that at least 80% of the posters here would immediately start screaming at him to shut up with his ****ed dirty lies.
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Ravsen
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: arkz67 Edited by: arkz67 on 18/11/2006 04:20:26
Originally by: Jonaswpl
Quote: And of course, LV will tell ya that they've pwning everything, but mostly only on the forum. Razz
Well if you had a clue then you would realize Goon got spanked in 1V on the 17th of November, 2006. In game and not on the forums.
Intrigued I decided to do some dectective work and put this dispute to the test.
According to the killboards of LV, Reds and Goons, looking at only the killmails on each (many alliances miss lots of lossmails off their kb but curiously no one ever seems to forget to post their kills), here are the losses for the 3 hours after downtime in 1V-
LV/V fleet: 14 BS lost, 8 belonging to LV
Goonswarm/allies fleet: 11 BS lost, 9 of which were goons
Hmm goons got spanked but lost less BS? im also told they held the field after both battles after LV warped out and scooped the loot?
and before you post about how many blackbirds you popped, I see a fair few HAC and Recon losses among your support losses, and all your BS were t2 unlike goons.
And then I also wonder why you are boasting about killing a RED Alliance capship a full day before in a system 6+ jumps away as something to do with what happened today? 
I love you Vodka Lolterra, pure comedy as always 
The reson for this is in the second engagement when the node chrashed .. we logged back in to find our gang shattered everywhere .. some at station some went to SS etc. ..
But all of ragoon where straight at the station .. so when we logged back in we lost alot to the ppl who warped to station from their 1mill km safespot with no chance to stop it and got killed.
had the node not chrashed then it would have been alot different that i tell ya !
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.18 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Zhaine
3 - Any cap ships involved (apart from SSed Carriers/MSs assigning fighters obviously) in the 1V business yet? Also, as 1V- has only 5 moons are they all death-starred by V POS or not? Do RA/Goons have any up in 1V- yet? 6 - Anything else I've missed, or that anyone wants to add about 1V- atm or the conflict in general, please fire away.
Day ago RA/Goons dreads put all towers in reinforce mode and system was in bloacade, but for 1 day in 1v system POS warfare rules was "suddenly changed" and reinforced POSes still claim sovereignty in system (so RA wasnt able for 1 day take station from V).. but in next day, when LV/V collect forces in system to protect it, old POS warfare rules suddenly back and claim in system was dropped. This siege left no fun, only anger on CCP and GMs. 
yes, that's what nync 'n' daroh told me.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Unbeliever Kresmoreen
We've done well to head off RAGOON & friends thus far.
So the massive losses of BS, HACs, cruisers and t2 frigs to us wasn't considered at all in your calculations?
My... my... it must be new math.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Haldane IV
Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Haldane IV on 18/11/2006 09:37:21
Originally by: Kyguard
Originally by: Hawkings SJ
Among V, LV, KOS & CHIMP the only talent lies with LV. LV will probably get either parity or a positive kill ratio over the course of the war, V, CHIMP & other various alliances we tricked into allying with us will do about as well as you expect filler alliances & meatshields to do on the battlefield.
Fixed 
"tricked into allying with us" - that is SO wrong! 
CHIMP invaded Detorid and when RA hit back LV came to help CHIMP. VI attacked RA in Scalding and CHIMP came to help them. So CHIMP,LV and V were all fighting RA for different parts of the south east and THAT is why they are allied.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 10:36:00 -
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Quote: Among IMP, TFC, Goons & RA the only talent lies with RA. RA will probably get either parity or a positive kill ratio over the course of the war, IMP, TFC & Goons will do about as well as you expect filler alliances & meatshields to do on the battlefield.
we have positve allready thanks and isk wise its even better thanks to the cap pilots of v that liked to play undocking games in e02 before you guys left for scalding pass (oops sorry -v- still claim GW even though they dont actually live there )
thanks for hiring infod+trumvirate -v- they are entertaining but dont accomplish a whole lot since you helped them move in.
you should see us helping redswarm in scalding pass alot more in the very near future.
thanks for taking the thread off topic aswell im sure the thread starter apreciates it  ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
thanks for hiring infod+trumvirate -v- they are entertaining but dont accomplish a whole lot since you helped them move in.
We got hired? Did I miss the memo? 
imp gets more amusing every day 
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Miss Overlord
Gallente EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:06:00 -
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imp and goonswarm teaming up - u guys do know that BOB HC are planning to come play with RA-Goons when they are finished with ASCN - so i hope that they manage to get a few other friends in the process. Cause BOB are on a roll
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nync
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jonaswpl RaSatan lost a Revelation.
Goonswarm got spanked in 1V.
Lets do cap loss count:
RA: Rasatan - revelation. Killed by bs gang whilst playind dock/undock.
-V-: Mereena - revelation. Killed by bs gang whilst gatecamping goon ganqsquad(frapsed). HIder - thanatos. Ganked by cap ship gang whilst gatecamping. Fear the cyno rifter(frapsed).
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Amerame
Section XIII
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:05:00 -
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LV is defending, and RA / Goon are on the offensive. You don't see much LV dreads around these days, but RA, Goon and even TCF get dreads out on a regular basis, that should tell you how "well" the war is going.
Now it is completely obvious that there is no hope for V to actually control their space, how long will V players be ready to fight for territory they can't use ? How long will LV be able to stay with 150+ people fleets in scalding pass to protect PoSes that are attacked several times a week ?
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Hudsonn
Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord imp and goonswarm teaming up - u guys do know that BOB HC are planning to come play with RA-Goons when they are finished with ASCN - so i hope that they manage to get a few other friends in the process. Cause BOB are on a roll
Oh no! Not big bad BOB! Whas the point of even trying ,we may as well stop now, blow up all our shis and stop playing EVE!
Plus you have no idea -------------
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord imp and goonswarm teaming up - u guys do know that BOB HC are planning to come play with RA-Goons when they are finished with ASCN - so i hope that they manage to get a few other friends in the process. Cause BOB are on a roll
bob dont like us much and we dont like them very much either so makes no difference if they dont like who we choose to be friends with.
i really dont think xirtam is the type of person who wouldnt be friends with someone just because they have big enemys anyway. ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |

Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:30:00 -
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Oh dear, flamefest by halfway down page 1 :s
But cheers to anyone posting informatively, 'cos some of you are.
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Forward to taste the beautifull war. . . |

Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 18/11/2006 12:36:20
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Unbeliever Kresmoreen
We've done well to head off RAGOON & friends thus far.
So the massive losses of BS, HACs, cruisers and t2 frigs to us wasn't considered at all in your calculations?
My... my... it must be new math.
Maybe you should decide, if you are in this war or not.
One day you guys say: 'No no, you can't count IAC, they are not part of this. It's only RAGoons + TCF' Next day you claim to be part of this war, because you want your kills in the pro-ra statistic.
Same for IMP btw. One day they deny that they are a part of this war, next day they say they're fighting on the side with RA, just fight at different places, because all people in one place makes no sense.
But that's how propaganda stuff in wars works, I think. 
/edit I'm sad today. Hours of waiting for a fight and warping around, then I decide to leave gang to go afk a bit, and Princess etc. kill a dread. Sux.
P.S.:
Originally by: Nanus Parkite With the fairly inflated price of T2 large guns these days capital ships are starting to become the cheaper option for budding fleet pilots :)
I loled. Almost true, I guess. 
cdt/con-loss vs. regular log-out. A proposal ...
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 12:53:00 -
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Past few days i've seen hardly any enemies thanks to my timezone, Goon and RA operate at times when im at work. Yesterday i had the day off and was looking forward to some fights, missed the 1V-L fight as i slept in. 
We jumped into RYC, node died, played a bit of cat and mouse with TCF. RA and Goon didn't really particapate, well they didn't at least while i was around.
I went back to Curse and had a small skirmish with TCF there.
It's been a bit of a let down to be honest, but like i said earlier, its a timezone issue.
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arkz67
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: arkz67 on 18/11/2006 13:17:19
Edited by: arkz67 on 18/11/2006 04:20:26
Originally by: Jonaswpl
Quote: And of course, LV will tell ya that they've pwning everything, but mostly only on the forum. Razz
Well if you had a clue then you would realize Goon got spanked in 1V on the 17th of November, 2006. In game and not on the forums.
Intrigued I decided to do some dectective work and put this dispute to the test.
According to the killboards of LV, Reds and Goons, looking at only the killmails on each (many alliances miss lots of lossmails off their kb but curiously no one ever seems to forget to post their kills), here are the losses for the 3 hours after downtime in 1V-
LV/V fleet: 14 BS lost, 8 belonging to LV
Goonswarm/allies fleet: 11 BS lost, 9 of which were goons
Hmm goons got spanked but lost less BS? im also told they held the field after both battles after LV warped out and scooped the loot?
and before you post about how many blackbirds you popped, I see a fair few HAC and Recon losses among your support losses, and all your BS were t2 unlike goons.
And then I also wonder why you are boasting about killing a RED Alliance capship a full day before in a system 6+ jumps away as something to do with what happened today? 
I love you Vodka Lolterra, pure comedy as always 
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:22:00 -
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So do you copy and paste all of your posts so you can respam them once they get deleted?
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 18/11/2006 13:24:36 IAC are part of this war. Maybe not as active as i would like, but perhaps once our miners realise their be mercoxite in them thar hills we can show a bit more presence. We literaly had to pry bluebear away from IAK once he saw one of the belts  

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Necronomicon
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:35:00 -
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arkz67
member of Science and Trade Institute for less than a day.
Mods ffs, will you just forum ban this clown shoe wearing alt muppet?
Get tough on alts, get tough on the causes of alts.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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BustyBounty
Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: BustyBounty on 18/11/2006 13:36:43
Quote: Same for IMP btw. One day they deny that they are a part of this war, next day they say they're fighting on the side with RA, just fight at different places, because all people in one place makes no sense.
that was my fault. i thought it would be fun to pretend we were carebears who just wanted to mine in arnola but a few of the other people in imp that post on these forums decided to play along with it
btw if you know xirt from CA or ever heard the xirt soundboard from Ca you will understand why i thought it would be a laugh. ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to. |

arkz67
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz So do you copy and paste all of your posts so you can respam them once they get deleted?
truth hurts doesnt it 
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Necronomicon arkz67
member of Science and Trade Institute for less than a day.
Mods ffs, will you just forum ban this clown shoe wearing alt muppet?
Get tough on alts, get tough on the causes of alts.
Its goonfleet ex-member and cheerleader Arkarsk.
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Raste on 18/11/2006 14:07:14
Originally by: Kaylana Syi SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEE!!!!
Hi Kaylani!
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.18 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 18/11/2006 14:04:53 Edited by: Plutoinum on 18/11/2006 14:00:56
Originally by: arkz67 here are the losses for the 3 hours after downtime in 1V-
LV/V fleet: 14 BS lost, 8 belonging to LV
Goonswarm/allies fleet: 11 BS lost, 9 of which were goons
I haven looked up the BS stats, but we usually sit in a lot more BS than the goons. You rather find 50 blackbirds, caracals and celestis piloted by goons, than BS in a fleet. For us it's the other way around. Most BS on the RAGoon side come from RA.
If I look at our -V- killboard, there are 204 ship kills on V/LV side plus 25 pods vs. 35 ship losses plus 15 pods for yesterday. That RAGoons are more likely to kill a BS and we more cruisers and frigs is no wonder, if you look what the average guy flies.
( I think numbers are mostly accurate, although surely not 100% complete, have to grab some stuff from the LV board and I'm sure not every single player has posted his losses yet, although he is supposed to. I wrote V/LV side, because the bigger fleets are usually mixed like on RAGoon side. The boards overlap a lot. )
cdt/con-loss vs. regular log-out. A proposal ...
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.18 15:30:00 -
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SP: RAGOON/TCF/IAC vs LV+V GW: IMP/Foundation vs V and InfoD
200 kills yesterday. lotsa fun except the node crashes are annoying. all 5 POSs in 1v- which were in reinforced are fully operational again and refueled. Thanks to all involved pilots. Lotsa fun going here. Thanks to LV for their continous support :) We had a nice fleet yesterday.
Enjoy
o/ x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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