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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:19:05 -
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CCP changes all norwegian subscriptions from 14.95$ to 19.90Euro or in Norwegian Currency 123 NOK to 184 NOK.
Looks like CCP are doing their best to reduce their player base.
I also want proof of their claims.
according to Norwegian law you can buy products from forign countries for upto 200NOK (or more) without having to pay any aditional tax
So if you going to claim local taxation then please provide us with the proof..........
Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards, EVE Online Customer Support |

Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:20:45 -
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And before you close this....
this is not a rant it is an issue people should be able to discuss |

mannyman
Impossible Outcomes This Is How We Roll
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:28:08 -
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this is redicolous.
The Norwegian foreign trade law didnt change overnight to july 1 2015 ! CCP had to deal with this for years already.
I want to know the VAT tax registration number CCP is going to pay the VAT to !
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Bailian Moxtain
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:35:44 -
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This is pretty ******* dumb |

Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:38:44 -
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File a Petition, you have a 30% chance it will be answered the first day, then it goes up to 50% the following day, after that who knows, but you will get an answer.
I like Ravens.
Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1870
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:38:45 -
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mannyman wrote:this is redicolous.
The Norwegian foreign trade law didnt change overnight to july 1 2015 ! CCP had to deal with this for years already.
I want to know the VAT tax registration number CCP is going to pay the VAT to !
Maybe they incurred the cost while making sure they could not get around it since it was really changed and now they are adjusting the price after finding out they can't get around it. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:40:30 -
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Must oppress the other vikings!
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:41:25 -
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Ooh, I didn't have any Norwegian tears, at least none that I am aware of, thank you for your contribution.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13350
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:42:16 -
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A repost so soon? Nice knowing you.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:43:10 -
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mannyman wrote: I want to know the VAT tax registration number CCP is going to pay the VAT to !
This. |

mannyman
Impossible Outcomes This Is How We Roll
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:44:20 -
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What about those who plex their accounts ? Will CCP have to report that to Norwegian authorities as an "income" for that specific person ? |

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1870
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:44:55 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:mannyman wrote: I want to know the VAT tax registration number CCP is going to pay the VAT to !
This.
And I want the lotto numbers for the next 10 draws.
Guess who's getting what he want? |

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1870
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:45:56 -
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mannyman wrote:What about those who plex their accounts ? Will CCP have to report that to Norwegian authorities as an "income" for that specific person ?
How stupid do you need to be to ask this when it's pretty clear CCP does not do that for any other countries?
Special snowflake syndrome? |

mannyman
Impossible Outcomes This Is How We Roll
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:46:46 -
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for those norwegian miners: plexing 10 miners: 184 NOK per miner X 10 = 1840 NOK per month X 12 months = 22080 NOK !
That is a serious income and have to be reported. If you ask me, this is way more serious than the VAT claim! |

Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:48:14 -
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mannyman wrote:for those norwegian miners: plexing 10 miners: 184 NOK per miner X 10 = 1840 NOK per month X 12 months = 22080 NOK !
That is a serious income and have to be reported. If you ask me, this is way more serious than the VAT claim! Quoting for hilarity.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Khanid Voltar
Third Way Retirement Corp
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:51:26 -
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mannyman wrote:for those norwegian miners: plexing 10 miners: 184 NOK per miner X 10 = 1840 NOK per month X 12 months = 22080 NOK !
That is a serious income and have to be reported. If you ask me, this is way more serious than the VAT claim!
It would be taxed in the currency where the plex was originally purchased.
Unless you are suggesting that Norwegians pay VAT on their in-game purchases as well?
You numbskull.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
37890
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:53:00 -
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mannyman wrote:for those norwegian miners: plexing 10 miners: 184 NOK per miner X 10 = 1840 NOK per month X 12 months = 22080 NOK !
That is a serious income and have to be reported. If you ask me, this is way more serious than the VAT claim! Lucky miners can't earn NOK then, unless you're RMTing of course.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
720
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:53:54 -
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mannyman wrote:for those norwegian miners: plexing 10 miners: 184 NOK per miner X 10 = 1840 NOK per month X 12 months = 22080 NOK !
That is a serious income and have to be reported. If you ask me, this is way more serious than the VAT claim!
Well, let's say I buy a bag of crisps, and you buy a box of biscuits. We then trade a crisp for a biscuit. Are we required to pay VAT on that transaction?
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mannyman
Impossible Outcomes This Is How We Roll
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Posted - 2015.06.08 19:55:09 -
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The whole VAT thing is hilarious ! |

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:20:17 -
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mannyman wrote:for those norwegian miners: plexing 10 miners: 184 NOK per miner X 10 = 1840 NOK per month X 12 months = 22080 NOK !
That is a serious income and have to be reported. If you ask me, this is way more serious than the VAT claim!
Must suck to be norwegian to be taxed on in-game gains. Here in Canada, I can earn as much as I want and never get taxed. And to think many people here think your country should serve as a model.
Or maybe you are just stupid and don't understand how things work... |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:26:51 -
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Sigh. Ill just do the heavy lifting, and Barstorlode can just rubber stamp it. Dude has been overworked lately.
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[Stamp here].
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1166
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:32:04 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:mannyman wrote: I want to know the VAT tax registration number CCP is going to pay the VAT to !
This. And I want the lotto numbers for the next 10 draws. Guess who's getting what he want?
On the possibility its you... you know I've always thought you were a great poster right? *bats eyelids*
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1873
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:32:28 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Sigh. Ill just do the heavy lifting, and Barstorlode can just rubber stamp it. Dude has been overworked lately.
[Stamp here].[/quote]
Pretty sure some ISD told a player making post like that without the authority to do so by being ISD member was not really liked. |

Sadario
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:32:47 -
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UaE: Is it regarded as private communication, if all norwegians recieved the same mail?
I too, would like to know what laws changed for me to be taxed VAT on my sub... |

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1873
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:33:39 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:mannyman wrote: I want to know the VAT tax registration number CCP is going to pay the VAT to !
This. And I want the lotto numbers for the next 10 draws. Guess who's getting what he want? On the possibility its you... you know I've always thought you were a great poster right? *bats eyelids*
Allright, I'll send you what I win on the 1th draw converted in PLEX. |

Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1873
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:35:23 -
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Sadario wrote:UaE: Is it regarded as private communication, if all norwegians recieved the same mail?
I too, would like to know what laws changed for me to be taxed VAT on my sub...
1- Yes because it was sent to each individuals.
2- Check your international commercial law change in the past few months. It more than likely didn't swap directly on june. |

DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:40:13 -
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filing a petition would of gotten you a faster answer.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:44:40 -
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Silly Europeans, VAT this, VAT that. Why don't you move to a country that allows you to openly carry an AR-15 assault rifle in the Atlanta airport?
What I'm trying to say is, we don't have a problem with VAT here in 'Murica!
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:45:07 -
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DaReaper wrote:filing a petition would of gotten you a faster answer.
filing a petition wouldnt have gotten me any answers.
all i know there is alot of norwegians quitting the game or unsubbing some of their accounts due to this.
If their making claims that the changes are due to local law that non of us know about then they should provide evedence of their claims. |

stoicfaux
5847
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:52:04 -
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Okay, for us non-Europeans, Norway likes their tax money: https://www.taxamo.com/eu-vat-rules-global-plans/
"Some jurisdictions such as Norway, South Africa, Switzerland, and GÇô more recently GÇô the EU have already introduced taxation measures aimed at GÇÿlevelling the playing fieldGÇÖ and recouping tax from non-domestic providers of digital services."
"Norway Norway has been the pioneer when it comes to the taxation of the digital economy with rules introduced back in July 2011. These regulations dictate that digital services supplied by non-established vendors to consumers in Norway (B2C) are subject to Norwegian VAT and the vendor must calculate, collect, and pay the VAT.
As an alternative to ordinary VAT registration, vendors may opt to use a simplified registration scheme. More information here.
The Norwegian Tax Administration has its own web page for the simplified scheme for non-established vendors supplying electronic services to consumers in Norway."
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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