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Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:52:17 -
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Quote:
all i know there is alot of norwegians quitting the game or unsubbing some of their accounts due to this.
Nooooooooo, come back Norway please, if you all leave what will I do with myself  |
mannyman
Impossible Outcomes
This Is How We Roll
12
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:52:27 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
Or maybe you are just stupid and don't understand how things work...
I think we had enough of your comments. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1678
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Posted - 2015.06.08 20:59:05 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Sadario wrote:UaE: Is it regarded as private communication, if all norwegians recieved the same mail?
I too, would like to know what laws changed for me to be taxed VAT on my sub... 1- Yes because it was sent to each individuals. 2- Check your international commercial law change in the past few months. It more than likely didn't swap directly on june.
so you actually have no ideas about subject but still find appropriate call other person 'dumb' for asking?
kind these days..... 
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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mannyman
Impossible Outcomes
This Is How We Roll
12
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:02:28 -
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so 20k norwegian players will now
1. unsubb
2. start plexing
lets say 10k players start plexing now, I can only assume plex prices will go up up up.. 1b plex anyone ? |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1874
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:04:21 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
edit: But why is Norway's VAT a problem right now?
For all we know, CCP messed up and just got a VAT bill in the mail recently and a deal was struct to recover the money "lost" since 2011 that way.
This is of course complete ridiculous speculation based on what we know. Which amount to nearly nothing... |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1874
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:08:04 -
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March rabbit wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Sadario wrote:UaE: Is it regarded as private communication, if all norwegians recieved the same mail?
I too, would like to know what laws changed for me to be taxed VAT on my sub... 1- Yes because it was sent to each individuals. 2- Check your international commercial law change in the past few months. It more than likely didn't swap directly on june. so you actually have no ideas about subject but still find appropriate call other person 'dumb' for asking? kind these days.....
I'm kinda waiting for you to share your much bigger knowledge tbh now... |
NightmareX
Lakagigar
600
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:14:28 -
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Next Billing Date: 30 June 2015 - 5:38 pm UTC (in 21 days).
Hmm, wonder if i should put in a subscription for 6 or 12 months from that and pay the normal rate instead?
Yes i'm a Norwegian.
Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:
1: Asteroid Madness
2: Clash of the Empires
3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
981
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:31:04 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:DaReaper wrote:filing a petition would of gotten you a faster answer. filing a petition wouldnt have gotten me any answers. all i know there is alot of norwegians quitting the game or unsubbing some of their accounts due to this. Well seeing that Norway is an european country and hence should pay in euros or local currency is fine.. But with CCP lying to us about how the laws in norway all of the sudden changed is not somenting i accept.
Looks like they finally got to enforcing their tax stuff. I'll guess we'll see more of this in the foreseeable future  . And of course more tears. Time to get some popcorn. Everywhere.Not just Norway  .
Remove insurance.
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Igor Nappi
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2015.06.08 21:44:02 -
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This problem would go away if you'd realized the error in your ways of nationally controlled currency, bent the knee and adopted the glorious Euro.
Furthermore, I think that links must be removed from the game.
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Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
142
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Posted - 2015.06.08 22:06:58 -
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^^Never! (Also, we're not in the EU)
My yearly sub just went from $179 to $269? That's not very nice. Apparently greed is good. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5703
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Posted - 2015.06.08 22:26:59 -
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Removed a political statement.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
752
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Posted - 2015.06.08 22:37:51 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a political statement.
Aww. I was just about to try and turn this into a debate on the pros and cons of socialism. I even brought my socialist retardant coat in expectation of the inevitable commie tear storm.
I'll just move along then. This evenings entertainment has been ruined.
There are all our dominion
Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
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Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
236
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Posted - 2015.06.08 23:47:52 -
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You can buy PLEX for $35, and some sites give you a bonus PLEX for buying enough of them.
I figured it out that you could pay in PLEX at a monthly equivalent cost of $16.79 (14.88 EU / 131.32 NOK) That's based on PLEXing monthly for two years though...
It's similar here in that we pay more "Because Taxes" (nudge, wink) but the discounted CCP long-term packages still work out cheaper. (equivalent 10 EU / 90 NOK @ 12 mth)
If I was paying monthly, I'd still be paying by PLEX bought from US sellers for dollars.
They did change EU tax laws in January this year to mean that digital services get charged VAT in the consumers country - so this change is probably related to that and isn't going to go away. It must apply in Norway too as an EEA member. |
Hicksimus
Xion Limited
Resonance.
632
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Posted - 2015.06.08 23:48:31 -
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Over the last month we've averaged 24000 online(and declining) which is the same as we averaged in June 2007. Compared to 34000 in June 2010. Upset some more people CCP, EvE is nowhere near dead enough yet. Edit: BTW that's 5000 less than post Incarna....
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Osaka Takawaki
Order and Prosperity
1
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Posted - 2015.06.09 00:15:11 -
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I really like Eve... But there's a limit to how much I'm willing to pay for all this skill training lol. It's like people think Norwegians are so rich anyways, so lets just take some more out of their pockets. I don't know whether to dislike CCP or the Norwegian government here, but since we're not getting any official and detailed answer, I'm just gonna chose to dislike them both. |
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
109
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Posted - 2015.06.09 03:11:57 -
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Wow, that's like $24 USD. You guys should look into money laundering schemes. |
DaReaper
Net 7
2169
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Posted - 2015.06.09 03:21:27 -
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a political statement. Aww. I was just about to try and turn this into a debate on the pros and cons of socialism. I even brought my socialist retardant coat in expectation of the inevitable commie tear storm. I'll just move along then. This evenings entertainment has been ruined.
commies =! socialist
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
769
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Posted - 2015.06.09 04:59:06 -
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Oh snap, **** is about to go down. Battles In The North, between two Grim And Frostbitten Kingdoms... |
Riven Varlass
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2015.06.09 05:16:18 -
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I would like an elaboration on the subject matter. It is a significant increase and makes little sense considering our government has increased the purchase limit on foreign services before you have to pay tax. |
Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services
CAStabouts
250
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Posted - 2015.06.09 09:31:58 -
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DaReaper wrote:McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a political statement. Aww. I was just about to try and turn this into a debate on the pros and cons of socialism. I even brought my socialist retardant coat in expectation of the inevitable commie tear storm. I'll just move along then. This evenings entertainment has been ruined. commies =! socialist
Ive never met a communists who wouldn't openly admit he's a communist
Ive never met a socialist that would openly admit their a socialist. |
stoicfaux
5853
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Posted - 2015.06.09 11:32:11 -
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Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
Ive never met a communists who wouldn't openly admit he's a communist
Ive never met a socialist that would openly admit their a socialist.
And I've never met a rabid "Socialism is Evil! Evil, I tell you!" person who could spell and use punctuation correctly. Or define socialism.
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
AXIOS.
241
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Posted - 2015.06.09 11:42:37 -
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I'm Norwegian and could not be happier about this news :D
I might finally be able to quit this game since paying almost twice what i already do for all those "mostly" inactive accounts is ludicrous anyways..
So a big thank you to CCP. The monthly 600Nkr u have received from me (+ the plex's for bling) can now be spend on other games that i actually play 
I feel like quoting my favorite poet, Dr C. Sheen... "WINNING".
PS! This is sincerely not a rant.. i am genuinely happy about this
-áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman....
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Zapp McDouche
Its a good day to die
ORPHANS OF EVE
0
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Posted - 2015.06.09 11:45:00 -
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Meh Norwegians got all that Oil money, why they complaining about a few more kronors to pay for their account?
Its not like they can't afford it
Sucks that as a non euro country having to pay in euros though since i get better price in dollars.  |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
307
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Posted - 2015.06.09 12:50:57 -
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CCP said some years ago "we are at a point we can lose subscriptions"......some time later they said "how can we keep subscriptions?"
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11294
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Posted - 2015.06.09 13:05:58 -
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Osaka Takawaki wrote:I really like Eve... But there's a limit to how much I'm willing to pay for all this skill training lol. It's like people think Norwegians are so rich anyways, so lets just take some more out of their pockets. I don't know whether to dislike CCP or the Norwegian government here, but since we're not getting any official and detailed answer, I'm just gonna chose to dislike them both.
So you don't know whether to dislike CCP or Norway ...over a TAX issue? You know it's governments that raise (and demand) Taxes right? for profit companies don't just up and decide "you know, we need to pay more taxes, and charge people more so that really ticks them off" lol.
If you are Norwegian and don't like what's going on, Talk to your government.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11294
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Posted - 2015.06.09 13:07:34 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:I'm Norwegian and could not be happier about this news :D I might finally be able to quit this game since paying almost twice what i already do for all those "mostly" inactive accounts is ludicrous anyways.. So a big thank you to CCP. The monthly 600Nkr u have received from me (+ the plex's for bling) can now be spend on other games that i actually play I feel like quoting my favorite poet, Dr C. Sheen... "WINNING". PS! This is sincerely not a rant.. i am genuinely happy about this
I know this is sarcasm, but how is it someone Else's fault that you choose to pay for something you don't use? I see that a lot around here, people blaming others for their own faults. |
Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
223
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Posted - 2015.06.09 13:18:47 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Ooh, I didn't have any Norwegian tears, at least none that I am aware of, thank you for your contribution. Such a nice fellow. I'm sure you all know.
Could this be some internal decision by someone to shift a burden of some sort. I'm aware the customer doesn't pay tax before a certain amount is spent...is there some fee structure for a vendor to sell to Norwegians? Interesting. We've heard how Icelandic banks view their jobs...
BTW, capitalism is all politics. You can't discuss the price of eggs without discussing politics.
I survived Win95
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Master Kent'sslave
Unforeseen Consequences.
Triumvirate.
11
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Posted - 2015.06.09 13:29:13 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:You can buy PLEX for $35, and some sites give you a bonus PLEX for buying enough of them.
I figured it out that you could pay in PLEX at a monthly equivalent cost of $16.79 (14.88 EU / 131.32 NOK) That's based on PLEXing monthly for two years though...
It's similar here in that we pay more "Because Taxes" (nudge, wink) but the discounted CCP long-term packages still work out cheaper. (equivalent 10 EU / 90 NOK @ 12 mth)
If I was paying monthly, I'd still be paying by PLEX bought from US sellers for dollars.
They did change EU tax laws in January this year to mean that digital services get charged VAT in the consumers country - so this change is probably related to that and isn't going to go away. It must apply in Norway too as an EEA member.
That would mean that all EU subscribers should get an increase not just one nation... |
0bama Barack Hussein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:10:32 -
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Master Kent'sslave wrote:CCP changes all norwegian subscriptions from 14.95$ to 19.90Euro or in Norwegian Currency 123 NOK to 184 NOK.
Looks like CCP are doing their best to reduce their player base.
I also want proof of their claims.
according to Norwegian law you can buy products from forign countries for upto 200NOK (or more) without having to pay any aditional tax
So if you going to claim local taxation then please provide us with the proof..........
Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards,
EVE Online Customer Support
I am from Finland, and know how rich you guys are because of oil (because WE are rich, then you must be unimaginable rich).
Just stop for a second and think how your "problem" feels for somebody in Russia or Ukraine, they have had their currency rates to blummet too, you know(?), it must have made their game more expensive too...
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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
Fortis Et Certus
194
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:27:35 -
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I think the best way to get to get an answer from CCP, is not to ask here. From my experience, asking questions like this in this forum only produce a crapload of answers that only pollute the post. Some(or manny...or most lol) of the Forumusers have a set of rules, 1, Get the post closed. 2. make jokes, then get the post closed. 3. Insult the OP, then get the post closed.
Send in a ticket, ull get answers from staff that have no clue what to say, so insist on getting it bumped up until u get a reply from someone that actually might have a Clue... but dont get ur hopes up, this will take a long time.
Master Kent'sslave wrote:CCP changes all norwegian subscriptions from 14.95$ to 19.90Euro or in Norwegian Currency 123 NOK to 184 NOK.
Looks like CCP are doing their best to reduce their player base.
I also want proof of their claims.
according to Norwegian law you can buy products from forign countries for upto 200NOK (or more) without having to pay any aditional tax
So if you going to claim local taxation then please provide us with the proof..........
Billing changes for Norwegian players
Hello,
We would like to announce billing changes that will affect our Norwegian players as of July 1st.
We will need to remit VAT to the Norwegian government as of July 1st. As such, we will need to change the billing currency of all Norwegian users to EUR.
This change will come into effect at the start of July, and from this point onward all Norwegian users will be billed in EUR.
Best Regards,
EVE Online Customer Support
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