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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.23 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Originally by: Majin82 LOL I am writing down the names of the people who fell for the trap. I will no long bother reading anything they post since they are tools!
The best part of it is that no matter how many responses like this I get in the thread, it doesn't matter, since the victims don't read them
You sure know how to open your mouth for someone with a "!" instead of a face...
Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.23 22:47:00 -
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You still haven't read the thing, have you?
Also, while the is inconvenient, this isn't my first character (my older character is at just under 30million SP), and this one has got to 13million SP without a face.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
PirateShampoo
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.11.23 22:48:00 -
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Screw it, lets just give the Raven a new cloak and let if fire when invisable..... Kaaaaplaaaa
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Litus Arowar
Amarr Obsidian Asylum Pure.
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Posted - 2006.11.24 02:57:00 -
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god ****, this is why I don't reply to as many topics as some forum *****s... hell, I gotta stop reading all the previous posts and spend my days commenting on the topic itself rather than the discussion!
awesome thread, a real test of intelligence
Albert Anastacia> Like they say, adapt or die. I adapted and now I get to Iwinbutton all over everyones face. |
Saria Mysdrial
Amarr Daedalus Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.24 05:01:00 -
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You guys have it all wrong...
The Raven isn't unbalanced and nerfed because of slots or fittings or launcher slots....it's the PAINT JOB...
Give it some fire stripes, and it will the omgwtfpwn-ship it was always meant to be (or is?)!
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Talthrus
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.24 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Akkarin Pagan Let's go all the way. Raven is underpowered, and needs an 8/8/8 layout, with the cpu / grid to fit all teh slots without fitting mods!
Akkarin
Hey Texford... this man has potential as a balance manager. Please hire him for the greater good of EVE. ----------------------
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.11.24 05:25:00 -
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Nah, the only thing the Raven needs is a "Your momma" joke generator that sends a "Your momma" joke to its victim over voice comms every time it kills someone.
Victim: "****, just got owned by that Raven..." Raven: "Your momma's so dumb that when she jumped out of a window she went up" Victim: "Hey...."
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Nadalia
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.24 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas Be aware, this idea is completely moronic. I just want to know how many people actually read the post, and don't just reply having read the topic, and maybe the first sentence. If you read it, don't reply. We'll get a list of muppets as the list of replies.
Emphasis mine. Don't troll the forums.
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Retnik
StarHunt
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Posted - 2006.11.24 06:00:00 -
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Nah the Raven should be 8/8/9 just to slap the armor tankers in the face...seriously.
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.11.24 07:07:00 -
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Best hidden joke thread in a while. тттттттттттт
VIP member of the [23]
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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mazzilliu
Caldari Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.24 07:17:00 -
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<3 this thread
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kill0rbunny
Caldari Chimera Intelligence Agency
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Posted - 2006.11.24 07:24:00 -
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Have any of you who whined about ravens ever flown one?
Nice, let's just nerf it down so it gets completely useless. Even for stupid mission running. Hopefully you will be pleased then.
Why not nerf Gallente for their totally sick damage output? _____________________________ Hugh. |
Captain Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.24 07:42:00 -
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raven already generally does need 2 fitting mods, i dont think the ship needs 7 mids though really.. though the whole shield tank / ability to scramble or have speed thing is kind of a crappy situation on the raven.. what annoys me about shield boost amps is that theres really not many ships that can fit them thanks to limited slots, maybe they should be low slot modules o_O
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Daniel Jackson > a harbinger cant be a raven cause its not caldari Daniel Jackson > and its not a missle ship Jim Raynor > thank you for that expert analysis DJ
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Yoshi Abe
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Posted - 2006.11.24 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas The raven is currently a pretty good battleship, but when the Kali hits, it will lose a lot of it's danger potential, in the form of the Javelin torpedo nerf. I have thought of a solution to this grievous balance problem.
The raven has long been unable to tackle respectably, while running a reasonable tank. It also has two less hardpoints than high slots, and nothing to fit in these than nos. Be aware, this idea is completely moronic. I just want to know how many people actually read the post, and don't just reply having read the topic, and maybe the first sentence. If you read it, don't reply. We'll get a list of muppets as the list of replies. Anyway, I think that one of these spare "utility" slots should be turned into a midslot, allowing the raven pilot to tackle somewhat, as well as running his tank.
With the ECM changes, this shouldn't make the raven a cool ECM platform like the scorp, and it will make up for the nerfage of the Javelins.
What do you think?
Not sure which is most pathetic:
The fact that the OP has been quoted and commented on and still we have people taking this seriously.
The impression given that several of those people taking this seriously appear to be in favor of the idea listed in the title.
The strong suspicion I have that despite quoting the OP again, there will be more posts below this one that completely miss the intent.
I'll up the stakes on the third point by doing a little highlighting.
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.24 08:35:00 -
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LM
Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.11.24 09:30:00 -
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.11.24 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Screw it, lets just give the Raven a new cloak and let if fire when invisable..... Kaaaaplaaaa
Ahah, we had this exact joke a couple of days ago on Scrapheap :P
Cry havoc....
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Gladox
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Posted - 2006.11.24 10:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gladox on 24/11/2006 10:20:00 Edited by: Gladox on 24/11/2006 10:18:49
Originally by: Verus Potestas The raven is currently a pretty good battleship, but when the Kali hits, it will lose a lot of it's danger potential, in the form of the Javelin torpedo nerf. I have thought of a solution to this grievous balance problem.
The raven has long been unable to tackle respectably, while running a reasonable tank. It also has two less hardpoints than high slots, and nothing to fit in these than nos. Be aware, this idea is completely moronic. I just want to know how many people actually read the post, and don't just reply having read the topic, and maybe the first sentence. If you read it, don't reply. We'll get a list of muppets as the list of replies. Anyway, I think that one of these spare "utility" slots should be turned into a midslot, allowing the raven pilot to tackle somewhat, as well as running his tank.
With the ECM changes, this shouldn't make the raven a cool ECM platform like the scorp, and it will make up for the nerfage of the Javelins.
What do you think?
Funny
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Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2006.11.24 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: kill0rbunny Have any of you who whined about ravens ever flown one?
Nice, let's just nerf it down so it gets completely useless. Even for stupid mission running. Hopefully you will be pleased then.
Why not nerf Gallente for their totally sick damage output?
Yes I fly a Raven regularly, and yes it sucks in large fleets. In small gangs or solo though, it can just sit there taking absoluteley insane amounts of damage for a long time, while dealing insane amounts of damage (not as much as some pure short range ships sure, but with over 70k range on T1 torps, nothing can compare over medium range, and that's before you factor in the whole missiles never miss thing). It also achieves this without any tanking bonus at all!
Ofc, kill0rbunny will never get around to reading this post, so I probably just wasted 5 minutes of the battery life in my keyboard
Akkarin
<3 - Immy
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StarLite
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.24 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: PirateShampoo Screw it, lets just give the Raven a new cloak and let if fire when invisable..... Kaaaaplaaaa
Make the missiles invisible too! They will never know what hit them :P _______________________________________________________________________
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Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation Pure.
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Posted - 2006.11.24 11:07:00 -
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I do not agree.
I like my 5 low slots.
A Raven is normally not meant to tackle. If you still want to, you have enough med slots to do it. If they give it 7 slots, you all will still fill every med slot up with tanking and then cry for a 8th med slot so that raven can "finally" tackle. 6 is enough.
But losing one of its low slots could be fatal. 1 less BCU or 1 less PDS or no more room for a DCU or a even more hurting slot for a Co-Pro.
A seventh launcher, why not :D But no slot shifting fnr med/lows. -- This game is still in beta stage |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.24 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 24/11/2006 11:34:02 Nice troll. I shall have to steal it.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.24 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: James Lyrus Nice troll. I shall have to steal it.
Works though, doesn't it?
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Lord WarATron
Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.24 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire /signed
8/7/4 and 7 missile hard points 4 turret hard points.
Then what? Give the Cal Navy version EIGHT missile hardpoints?
/me checks the number of launchers on the Corvus Battleship
Lol, looks like CCP are listening after all :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Kojiami
Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.24 14:41:00 -
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At 220 km, nothing can outpower 8 T2 tachyon max skilled pilot with 6 sinks. Not even a carrier can do such damage against a BS. 8 tachyons can melt a duramaller with T2 tank (Yes, i tried, against both against 10m+ corpies) in less than 20 seconds. A raven needed over 3 minutes and NOS to do so, where it finally fell due to cap problems.
Amarr has the most powerfull long range sniper if they fit injectors. You fail to see this.
It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT? |
Zixxa
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Posted - 2006.11.24 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie make ravens fit 2 CPU mods to be able to fit its biggest guns alone just as amarr is forced to use 2 engineering mods.
Make amarr to have dps at Raven level. With Tachyons. I.e. 400-500. --------------------------------- Hint 1: Train for Mega, not for Rokh Hint 2: Abaddon is uber fleet BS. R.I.P. <Torpedo Raven> R.I.P. <Eagle> R.I.P. <ECM> R.I.P. <Drake>
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Zixxa
Originally by: Xendie make ravens fit 2 CPU mods to be able to fit its biggest guns alone just as amarr is forced to use 2 engineering mods.
Make amarr to have dps at Raven level. With Tachyons. I.e. 400-500.
Read the OP FFS.
This is getting embarrassing
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Pesadel0
Vagabundos THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:15:00 -
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Give the raven 8 launcher slots dammit.
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.24 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Originally by: James Lyrus Nice troll. I shall have to steal it.
Works though, doesn't it?
Actually, I think it either wroks TOO well, or not enough, depending on your viewpoint. It seems now at least that this was something of an April Fool's post...and you sukcered me in (though strangely, on the opposite side of the debate...fighting AGAINST a Caldari boost...ME! )
But my point is...there are a lot more sensible suggestions that people treat as trolls, and there are lot dafter suggestions that people actually post seriously. Yours just kind of falls somewhere in the middle. ---
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RyanS
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Posted - 2006.11.24 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas What do you think?
You forget to mention making missile instant dmg....other than that looks pretty good to me... Caldari-online here i come!!!
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