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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2006.11.24 16:57:00 -
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You are absolutely correct. It is ridiculous that we don't have to pay for this expansion/replacement. I might just cancel my subscription 
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Mort Sinious
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Posted - 2006.11.24 16:58:00 -
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This thread is actually pretty funny.
/me gets some popcorn
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Ark Tyriel
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Posted - 2006.11.24 16:59:00 -
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not gonna get involved here, having read this whole topic i avtually agree with scsi
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Strangely Brown
Cult of the Purple Wolf
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Strangely Brown on 24/11/2006 17:02:20 If it makes you feel any better about it you can send me $40 for the expansion/replacement?
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Sam Browne
Caldari Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Scsiborg your either missing my point - or stupid!
eve, is different to other games- you dont get a choice - you update - or you dont play.
Er, isn't that a choice right there? See it? (It's behind you!)
Some folk are so dense they cause light to bend.
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:04:00 -
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im not complainig that it is free, are u completely stupid? my agrument is thats ive already paid for it
you really should read the topic before you go with the majority
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scsiborg your either missing my point - or stupid!
eve, is different to other games- you dont get a choice - you update - or you dont play.
for those that are havign difficulty EVE IS DIFFERENT, it cannot be compared to other games. its completely centralised. OF course they cant charge you for a f****** expansion! its not like guild wars where you could keep playing the original - it not like anything.
you say im not listening! i must have said it 3 times
How is it different? If you had to pay for eve expansions and you didnt you just wouldnt be able to use any of the new content, the new ships, weapons etc.. I admit its a bit more complicated then that but heck if sony were running this game you can bet your ass thats how it would be done.
The expansions are free.
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Skawl
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:05:00 -
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Any other game I can think of charges for content updates of this kind so I think CCP saying this is free is totally justified.
Most MMOs argue that you pay your monthly fee for server maintainence, customer support, bug fixing etc but charge for any new content.
EQ (1&2), WoW, SWG, DAoC, AO... all these games charge for their major content updates. CCP doesn't and I don't think it's unreasonable for them to advertise the fact.
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:05:00 -
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wow this is the first whine thread where the entire community has unified against the OP
go team!
WoW players can choose to upgrade to burning crusade for $40 but they still pay a subscription...
we pay a subscription and do not have to pay extra for the expansion.. while we may not have a choice not to upgrade, most wow fanatics cant bare the thought of NOT upgrading.
I do not understand why you cannot see what we mean... the expansion is free, you dont have a choice about not upgrading sure.... but your not CHARGED EXTRA for upgrading hence it is FREE
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:06:00 -
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Financially, its free.
Yes, time spent waiting for it to come out isn't free - if you're arguing that, then explicity say so, otherwise people will assume you're talking about cash.
And ffs, this is supposed to be a happy time, lighten up and stop worrying.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 24/11/2006 17:07:52
Originally by: Scsiborg your either missing my point - or stupid!
eve, is different to other games- you dont get a choice - you update - or you dont play.
for those that are havign difficulty EVE IS DIFFERENT, it cannot be compared to other games. its completely centralised. OF course they cant charge you for a f****** expansion! its not like guild wars where you could keep playing the original - it not like anything.
you say im not listening! i must have said it 3 times
this point is imho very valid .. but i still don't see why to make such a fuss about it.
EVE is by design a single-shard persistant gameworld. if there would be a server running one of the old EVE clients - it would contradict this concept of a single-shard persistant gameworld, wouldn't it?
the updates to this single-shard persistant gameworld are free - as there's no extra charge to get/install them.
so what's your point then?? ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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Mort Sinious
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:06:00 -
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Well then, just don't buy a Tier 2 BC or Tier 3 BS then. Voilß :)
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:07:00 -
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sigh* forget it. dont let your mind wonder - its too small to be let out on its own.
Forget it - ur all a bunch of "followers"
Originally by: Sam Browne
Originally by: Scsiborg your either missing my point - or stupid!
eve, is different to other games- you dont get a choice - you update - or you dont play.
Er, isn't that a choice right there? See it? (It's behind you!)
Some folk are so dense they cause light to bend.
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Mort Sinious
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:08:00 -
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So many funny responses ... must resist ...
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:09:00 -
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that would involve thought. good luck with that
Originally by: Mort Sinious So many funny responses ... must resist ...
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Johnny Rook
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:11:00 -
[46]
Personally I blame Dawson's Creek.
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:12:00 -
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lol
Originally by: Johnny Rook Personally I blame Dawson's Creek.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 24/11/2006 17:16:20 They haven't signed any contract that they have to deliver new content and that otherwise I can get my money back. So they could give us no content patches at all and let it just run, until EVE finally dies.
Now there is a content patch that they didn't have to deliver by a contract and they don't charge us for it, so it's free. 
Funny, this topic seems to come up with each big content patch. We had it before RMR, and we'll have it with Kali 2 and 3.
On the fanfest, when they announced the merge with whitewolf, it has been said that everything stays the same with EVE content patches as far as I remember. So nothing to be afraid of.
CTD/con-loss vs. regular log-out. A proposal ...
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:13:00 -
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So how long before someone is gonna bring up the EULA?
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Scsiborg Forget it - ur all a bunch of "followers"
Yes, I am afraid to say I follow. For example, most people do not run around with their underpants on your head. I follow the example of this people, unquestioningly. Failing to do so would result in me looking like a complete idiot.
I suggest you take your underpants off your head.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |

Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador So how long before someone is gonna bring up the EULA?
Plutoinum delivered the same second. Awesome 
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Strangely Brown
Cult of the Purple Wolf
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Originally by: Scsiborg Forget it - ur all a bunch of "followers"
Yes, I am afraid to say I follow. For example, most people do not run around with their underpants on your head. I follow the example of this people, unquestioningly. Failing to do so would result in me looking like a complete idiot.
I suggest you take your underpants off your head.
QFT
I agree with Verus.
And everyone else in the thread.
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:17:00 -
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we have already payed for this expansion.
thanks
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Estel Arador
Minmatar AFK
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Scsiborg we have already payed for this expansion.
thanks
Since you seem to like technicalities, please read the EULA to see how you did not pay for them.
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:20:00 -
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I think im gonna go buy a magazine - with something free stuck to the fton of it.
i wonder if that will affect the overall cost? hmm
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Mort Sinious
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:20:00 -
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I didnt pay for it. ****, will I be allowed to play it. Can we get a dev on this please?
/me needs much more popcorn for this thread as I thought :)
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Roy Batty68
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:21:00 -
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ESRB Notice: Game Experience May Change During Online Play
I really like that little ESRB notice. It fits so many of these threads.

To expect the game not to change is a bit rediculous. To expect a hugely complex game that has enough content and freedom of play that it could keep a large populace of players entertained for years and years, to be released in perfect and complete form from the get go is... well, naive at best. So the alternative is an iterative release or change cycle. Which is what we got.
To not have to pay for these inevitable changes is a bonus. Other companys aren't so nice.
But that's not really the point. The point is, like other posters have stated, that alot of people expect to pay for expansions. IMO they only stated it was "free" to make sure all understood how EVE works.
I think it is you, OP, who are making the topic more complicated than it is. Sure we "pay" for these changes in the form of putting up with extended down times and new bugs and what not, but that's just the nature of the beast.
Simplest way to put it... Don't like it? Can I have your stuff? 
Originally by: Big Al
Well, if there was a law against stupidity, the server would certainly lag less.
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:22:00 -
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The monthly fee is to keep EVE running, it has nothing to do with expansions. Even if EVE never saw a single expansion you'd still pay that monthly fee, like you do with every other MMOG. So no, you didn't pay for this expansion, nobody did. Hence it's free.
And the devs have said time and time again that EVE expansions will always be free. Hell they answered that exact question last week at the fanfest.
Seriously, I've seen some pretty stupid whines on here but this has to be near the top of the list.
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Scsiborg
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:24:00 -
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this is the last post from me.
to say that the kali expansion is a free expansion, is only applicably to new players - not me.
thats it
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.11.24 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Scsiborg I think im gonna go buy a magazine - with something free stuck to the fton of it.
i wonder if that will affect the overall cost? hmm
Compare the monthly subscription in EVE to that of other MMOGs, I think you'll notice it's the industry average. How many other MMOG's provide regular content expansions at no extra charge?
Your argument is flawed.
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