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Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2063	Posted - 2015.08.13 16:22:20 - [301] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Didn't think of it, but next time will certainly give it a shot. You might have figured out what I was up to and with your speed advantage, kept up with me while avoiding my trail. If you had misjudged though, it just might have worked. Damn I really want to try that now. It would be a long shot, but a shot nonetheless. And who knows...maybe you'll get to try it in the battleship round. I feel like the battleship round will have a lot more options available though. True dat, plus I don't think there will be quite the same massive speed disparity that there is between most CBCs and a nano'd, kitey ABC. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 1179	Posted - 2015.08.13 16:56:23 - [302] - Quote I want to play next time. Ralph...make sure I'm paying attention. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
lmmortalist lmmortality Associates 44	Posted - 2015.08.13 19:18:41 - [303] - Quote Hey what do you know, a d+¬j+á vu: now with the updated brackets I'm hoping we will have had our match by the end of the week.
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1379	Posted - 2015.08.13 19:21:35 - [304] - Quote i would have beat everyone but ya know busyness is a terrible thing EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11228	Posted - 2015.08.13 19:42:35 - [305] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: i would have beat everyone but ya know busyness is a terrible thing Hahaha, great holy impression =]\|[=
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1380	Posted - 2015.08.13 19:56:54 - [306] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Lan Wang wrote: i would have beat everyone but ya know busyness is a terrible thing Hahaha, great holy impression ralph lets not make this about me kk you know nullsec is endgame leet pvp EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3265	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:09:38 - [307] - Quote PSA Next thunderdome will have a few new features. We have approved: 1) A T3D round. All races have them, and they are an incredibly short train (9 days max, I think, to get LVL 4). 2) Hard deadlines for matches to be completed by. One per week, due by downtime on the last day. We are considering: 1) Timezone-specific matchups for the first few fights. This will allow participants in differing zones to compete with each other before needing to accommodate someone else schedule at 0200 hrs. This will be based on the number of opposing timezone participants we get. Details in the next signup thread. 2) Bans. Each participant will be able to ban one hull type per round. We welcome your input on the considerations, and, please feel free to ask for something if you think it will help as we attempt to grow the event. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1316	Posted - 2015.08.13 21:30:05 - [308] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: PSA Next thunderdome will have a few new features. We have approved: 1) A T3D round. All races have them, and they are an incredibly short train (9 days max, I think, to get LVL 4). 2) Hard deadlines for matches to be completed by. One per week, due by downtime on the last day. We are considering: 1) Timezone-specific matchups for the first few fights. This will allow participants in differing zones to compete with each other before needing to accommodate someone else schedule at 0200 hrs. This will be based on the number of opposing timezone participants we get. Details in the next signup thread. 2) Bans. Each participant will be able to ban one hull type per round. We welcome your input on the considerations, and, please feel free to ask for something if you think it will help as we attempt to grow the event. By hull type do you mean say "I ban the Navy Brutix" or do you mean "I ban the Brutix hull" which also is used for the astarte and the regular brutix? Just want to be clear. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3267	Posted - 2015.08.13 22:08:32 - [309] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Leto Thule wrote: PSA Next thunderdome will have a few new features. We have approved: 1) A T3D round. All races have them, and they are an incredibly short train (9 days max, I think, to get LVL 4). 2) Hard deadlines for matches to be completed by. One per week, due by downtime on the last day. We are considering: 1) Timezone-specific matchups for the first few fights. This will allow participants in differing zones to compete with each other before needing to accommodate someone else schedule at 0200 hrs. This will be based on the number of opposing timezone participants we get. Details in the next signup thread. 2) Bans. Each participant will be able to ban one hull type per round. We welcome your input on the considerations, and, please feel free to ask for something if you think it will help as we attempt to grow the event. By hull type do you mean say "I ban the Navy Brutix" or do you mean "I ban the Brutix hull" which also is used for the astarte and the regular brutix? Just want to be clear. The specific ship. Thanks.. Should have clarified that. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1705	Posted - 2015.08.13 22:30:09 - [310] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: PSA Next thunderdome will have a few new features. We have approved: 1) A T3D round. All races have them, and they are an incredibly short train (9 days max, I think, to get LVL 4). 2) Hard deadlines for matches to be completed by. One per week, due by downtime on the last day. We are considering: 1) Timezone-specific matchups for the first few fights. This will allow participants in differing zones to compete with each other before needing to accommodate someone else schedule at 0200 hrs. This will be based on the number of opposing timezone participants we get. Details in the next signup thread. 2) Bans. Each participant will be able to ban one hull type per round. We welcome your input on the considerations, and, please feel free to ask for something if you think it will help as we attempt to grow the event. Or for the sake of evenness and inclusion we could do only t1 cruisers with only t1 mods next round the whole way through cause you just excluded me Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3268	Posted - 2015.08.13 22:50:21 - [311] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: PSA Next thunderdome will have a few new features. We have approved: 1) A T3D round. All races have them, and they are an incredibly short train (9 days max, I think, to get LVL 4). 2) Hard deadlines for matches to be completed by. One per week, due by downtime on the last day. We are considering: 1) Timezone-specific matchups for the first few fights. This will allow participants in differing zones to compete with each other before needing to accommodate someone else schedule at 0200 hrs. This will be based on the number of opposing timezone participants we get. Details in the next signup thread. 2) Bans. Each participant will be able to ban one hull type per round. We welcome your input on the considerations, and, please feel free to ask for something if you think it will help as we attempt to grow the event. Or for the sake of evenness and inclusion we could do only t1 cruisers with only t1 mods next round the whole way through cause you just excluded me Yeah no. I don't fly t1s. And you would never be excluded. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1706	Posted - 2015.08.13 23:07:23 - [312] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: PSA Next thunderdome will have a few new features. We have approved: 1) A T3D round. All races have them, and they are an incredibly short train (9 days max, I think, to get LVL 4). 2) Hard deadlines for matches to be completed by. One per week, due by downtime on the last day. We are considering: 1) Timezone-specific matchups for the first few fights. This will allow participants in differing zones to compete with each other before needing to accommodate someone else schedule at 0200 hrs. This will be based on the number of opposing timezone participants we get. Details in the next signup thread. 2) Bans. Each participant will be able to ban one hull type per round. We welcome your input on the considerations, and, please feel free to ask for something if you think it will help as we attempt to grow the event. Or for the sake of evenness and inclusion we could do only t1 cruisers with only t1 mods next round the whole way through cause you just excluded me Yeah no. I don't fly t1s. And you would never be excluded. My frigate skills are poor at best. To even compete in this round I would have to alter my training q something shocking. unlike cruisers and frigs and even bc's to an extent (altho not as well) in the destroyer bracket their is no faction destroyer thats at least 2/3 as good as the t2 or in this case t3. Hell the t2 isn't 2/3 as good. I would need to train small guns to 5, gun spec to 2-3 and dessie to 5 and t3d to 4 to hope to get into this match up as the t3d's don't do very well with low skills for them. also in a 1v1 the jackdaw seems unbeatable. We have t3 cruisers all over again or skiffs that are unbeatable inside their own class my very quick example Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3268	Posted - 2015.08.13 23:39:02 - [313] - Quote You are likely to be an exception to the rule if you don't have any small ship skills. Also that has to be the most expensive jackdaw ever fitted. I can't fly t2 BC's... I'd day that puts me at a huge disadvantage in that round if I fight someone who can. Bronson, what say you? Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1706	Posted - 2015.08.13 23:51:38 - [314] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: You are likely to be an exception to the rule if you don't have any small ship skills. Also that has to be the most expensive jackdaw ever fitted. I can't fly t2 BC's... I'd day that puts me at a huge disadvantage in that round if I fight someone who can. Bronson, what say you? I dont like t2 bc's either because they are equally unbalance. I think i touched on that erlier too. much like t2 bs's Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1706	Posted - 2015.08.13 23:53:30 - [315] - Quote Besides we just did an exotic thunderdome. I say standard this time round. make the next exotic again lol Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2066	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:02:15 - [316] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: You are likely to be an exception to the rule if you don't have any small ship skills. Also that has to be the most expensive jackdaw ever fitted. I can't fly t2 BC's... I'd day that puts me at a huge disadvantage in that round if I fight someone who can. Bronson, what say you? The thing with D3s is that they will utterly and horribly curbstomp any other destroyer. In essence, it wouldn't be a destroyer round, it would effectively be a D3 round, rather like a cruiser round open to T3s would effectively be a T3 round. I know that the train time for them is short, but I feel like adding a time limit on matches and an effective minimum training requirement for one round at the same time is too much. I say hold off on D3s for now. They would make for some awesome matches, but my inclination is towards inclusion, not exclusion. Give everyone a chance to get into them and get familiar with hem, then we should talk about including them. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1384	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:08:23 - [317] - Quote small ship comps would be cool, the current setup is expensive lol, i think my gila in the first round was like 400mil+ EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3268	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:16:03 - [318] - Quote Cool. We will leave T3Ds out this round. But no T1 restriction for anything under BS. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 400	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:16:30 - [319] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Besides we just did an exotic thunderdome. I say standard this time round. make the next exotic again lol I cant compete because i am poor. If the next one is t1 only i could afford it. Or can someone just bum me a few hundred mill for ships and fits?
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3268	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:19:30 - [320] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Besides we just did an exotic thunderdome. I say standard this time round. make the next exotic again lol I cant compete because i am poor. If the next one is t1 only i could afford it. Or can someone just bum me a few hundred mill for ships and fits? You are welcome to participate, but I'm not going to restrict it to T1 only. I mean, you could be a baddass and wreck shop in a t1.... Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2067	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:31:40 - [321] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Besides we just did an exotic thunderdome. I say standard this time round. make the next exotic again lol I cant compete because i am poor. If the next one is t1 only i could afford it. Or can someone just bum me a few hundred mill for ships and fits? You are welcome to participate, but I'm not going to restrict it to T1 only. I mean, you could be a baddass and wreck shop in a t1.... I wrecked a Faction Battlecruiser in a vanilla T1 ABC. I also beat a HAC in a cheap Navy faction cruiser. ISK doesn't buy victory. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 1185	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:38:08 - [322] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: wreck shop in a t1.... Already theorycrafting. Maybe give me a low seed. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1384	Posted - 2015.08.14 00:52:40 - [323] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Besides we just did an exotic thunderdome. I say standard this time round. make the next exotic again lol I cant compete because i am poor. If the next one is t1 only i could afford it. Or can someone just bum me a few hundred mill for ships and fits? if you compete please dont expect a blog post kk luv ya x EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
lmmortalist lmmortality Associates 45	Posted - 2015.08.14 15:54:14 - [324] - Quote Oh my god. Are you all space-poor? For real? No goddamn restrictions. Besides, the advantages of, say, fitting faction instead of T2 are marginal for almost all of the modules. Also I can't fly T2 bcs either but hey who cares, its still possible to create a fit to destroy one of them within the boundaries of the current rules out of the T1 bc hulls (no I'm not revealing it).
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3283	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:18:59 - [325] - Quote lmmortalist wrote: Oh my god. Are you all space-poor? For real? No goddamn restrictions. Besides, the advantages of, say, fitting faction instead of T2 are marginal for almost all of the modules. Also I can't fly T2 bcs either but hey who cares, its still possible to create a fit to destroy one of them within the boundaries of the current rules out of the T1 bc hulls (no I'm not revealing it). Thunderdome is representative of the core rules of EVE. Namely risk vs reward. No restrictions. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2080	Posted - 2015.08.14 16:23:09 - [326] - Quote lmmortalist wrote: Oh my god. Are you all space-poor? For real? No goddamn restrictions. The only round/bracket-wide restrictions I support are the ones that limit options. T3 cruisers can so brutally overpower almost any other cruiser that the cruiser round would effectively become a T3 round. Same to an extent with D3s. Personally, I'd rather see more variety, not less. As for individual match bans, those are more about covering gaps in your own build and less about limiting cost. If I want to ban a Gila, it's not because I'm worried about flying an expensive ship, it's because my fit doesn't work well against a Gila. Plus, this will force folks to come up with at least two viable fits. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3286	Posted - 2015.08.14 20:53:44 - [327] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: As for individual match bans, those are more about covering gaps in your own build and less about limiting cost. If I want to ban a Gila, it's not because I'm worried about flying an expensive ship, it's because my fit doesn't work well against a Gila. Plus, this will force folks to come up with at least two viable fits. ^ This ^ As in the past, the only restrictions will be on the T2 variants of battleships (because marauders in bastion mode will never die), and no T3 cruisers because of the absolute brick you can make them. We will leave T3D's out of the next round, but honestly, you all need to get them trained. Why? Because they are a blast. The mode switching feature really opens up the possibilities, and even though the jackdaw may have the best-in-class tank, I have seen them melted by heckates up close. I fully plan on implementing them in the coming months. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1324	Posted - 2015.08.14 22:17:11 - [328] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: As for individual match bans, those are more about covering gaps in your own build and less about limiting cost. If I want to ban a Gila, it's not because I'm worried about flying an expensive ship, it's because my fit doesn't work well against a Gila. Plus, this will force folks to come up with at least two viable fits. ^ This ^ As in the past, the only restrictions will be on the T2 variants of battleships (because marauders in bastion mode will never die), and no T3 cruisers because of the absolute brick you can make them. We will leave T3D's out of the next round, but honestly, you all need to get them trained. Why? Because they are a blast. The mode switching feature really opens up the possibilities, and even though the jackdaw may have the best-in-class tank, I have seen them melted by heckates up close. I fully plan on implementing them in the coming months. Maybe have a smaller side thunderdome T3D's only? Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3288	Posted - 2015.08.14 22:24:31 - [329] - Quote I'm planning on just integrating them into the brackets in a few months. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Lodestone Toyee Caldari Provisions Caldari State 52	Posted - 2015.08.14 23:55:52 - [330] - Quote I really like the bans idea because it would make theorycrafting more dynamic. I cant fly T2 BCs either, but restricting them completely seems like overkill. As has been mentioned, its possible to frame a T1 BC that will beat a sleipnir or Astarte (it takes some l33t piloting too). The person who can fly T2 BCs has the disadvantage that everyone will be expecting him to bring a T2 BC and will fit their ships accordingly. On another note, T3s are built for extreme resilience against gangs and they are great at fighting above their class. If T3s were in the cruiser bracket I think it would be possible to win with non-t3s provided you had a good amount of neuts/kiting superiority. Imo, it would turn into situation like w-space, where practically everyone has to bring neuts. (which may not be a bad thing) Maybe adding T3Cs to other class brackets would be a solution? stat wise they are closer to T2BCs and BS than they are to cruisers. Also, in the battleship bracket they would be facing enough dps/neuts that their extreme tanks would be much more breakable. Just my two cents, thinking of a way to incorporate them without breaking the current balance.

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