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Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24789	Posted - 2015.08.16 11:22:39 - [361] - Quote Aoife Fraoch wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Aoife Fraoch wrote: I really need to start grinding Isk so I can participate. It really isn't THAT expensive. No, I am just really that space isk poor... If you're serious about wanting to compete, I'll deposit 50M with Leto or his third party, whichever is applicable, to cover the entrance fee for the first series that you enter. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3330	Posted - 2015.08.16 21:07:01 - [362] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Aoife Fraoch wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Aoife Fraoch wrote: I really need to start grinding Isk so I can participate. It really isn't THAT expensive. No, I am just really that space isk poor... If you're serious about wanting to compete, I'll deposit 50M with Leto or his third party, whichever is applicable, to cover the entrance fee for the first series that you enter. We have used Chribba up to this point. I'd like to change over to someone in-house, but I'm not sure how that will go. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1743	Posted - 2015.08.16 21:43:27 - [363] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Aoife Fraoch wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Aoife Fraoch wrote: I really need to start grinding Isk so I can participate. It really isn't THAT expensive. No, I am just really that space isk poor... If you're serious about wanting to compete, I'll deposit 50M with Leto or his third party, whichever is applicable, to cover the entrance fee for the first series that you enter. We have used Chribba up to this point. I'd like to change over to someone in-house, but I'm not sure how that will go. I suppose I could do it. People trusted me with several bil to buy noobs ships (1.5 bil left and rising... wait what) so what's a few hundred mil lol Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 400	Posted - 2015.08.17 18:27:09 - [364] - Quote Aoife Fraoch wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Aoife Fraoch wrote: I really need to start grinding Isk so I can participate. It really isn't THAT expensive. No, I am just really that space isk poor... This aint some HONOR BALLS BADASS ELITE PVP CLUB Its a freaking. YUPPY YAUGHT COUNTRY GOLF CLUB FOR HIGHROLLERS THAT GO ON SAFARIS AND PAY GUIDE TONS OF MONEY TO "HUNT" ELEPHANT You need BILLIONS OF ISK to even compete. Else you gonna insta pop. This aint for ELITE COURAGE BADASS BALLSY DUDES Its just a freaking Billionaires Golf Club Competition Sorry i cant 1v1 you guys in a thunderdome cuz i dont have 5 bill to throw away each comp
Paranoid Loyd 6676	Posted - 2015.08.17 18:31:38 - [365] - Quote The "Special People" Thunderdome category will be added for space cripples such as yourself eventually. Don't fret. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 1197	Posted - 2015.08.17 18:35:26 - [366] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: We have used Chribba up to this point. I'd like to change over to someone in-house, but I'm not sure how that will go. Would be a nice opportunity for someone to start building trust and even if it failed, each contestant is only risking 50m which is significantly less than what they are fielding. I'd offer, but I'm only well known in NCQA, not C&P. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 400	Posted - 2015.08.17 18:38:02 - [367] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: The "Special People" Thunderdome category will be added for space cripples such as yourself eventually. Don't fret. Thank you. Im fine with losing a round of faction/t2 frigs Then a t1/navy cruiser round Then a t1 battlecruisers round Then even a damn t1 battleship round. But when you gotta bring gilas or ishtars or command ships or orthurs to compete its kinda a Pay to Even Participate Competition
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2116	Posted - 2015.08.17 18:43:27 - [368] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Sorry i cant 1v1 you guys in a thunderdome cuz i dont have 5 bill to throw away each comp Cheaper fit won Cheaper hull won (I can't comment on the fit because I didn't fly it) Cheaper fit won Cheaper fit won (by a long shot I'd imagine) Thunderdome is replete with victories by less expensive vessels. In particular, the most expensive fit that I think I've seen to date (the last link above) lost. ISK doesn't buy victory, and in the cruiser round a sub-100mil navy faction cruiser hull would likely take you a long way. Admittedly, the battleship round will be considerably pricier, but even a fully insured T1 battleship can likely stand toe-to-toe with faction battleships if the theorycraft behind it is strong enough. Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: But when you gotta bring gilas or ishtars or command ships or orthurs to compete its kinda a Pay to Even Participate Competition This is being addressed in future brackets. not because of cost but because some hulls are simply so overpowered. (Which probably drives the cost up, but chicken, egg, yeah.) I guess my point is...stick around and see what we come up with next. We're learning as we go and tweaking things to make it better. Cara Forelli wrote: Leto Thule wrote: We have used Chribba up to this point. I'd like to change over to someone in-house, but I'm not sure how that will go. Would be a nice opportunity for someone to start building trust and even if it failed, each contestant is only risking 50m which is significantly less than what they are fielding. I'd offer, but I'm only well known in NCQA, not C&P. I'd offer, but as a contestant, there's an obvious conflict of interest. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Valkin Mordirc 1395	Posted - 2015.08.17 19:00:57 - [369] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: The "Special People" Thunderdome category will be added for space cripples such as yourself eventually. Don't fret. Thank you. Im fine with losing a round of faction/t2 frigs Then a t1/navy cruiser round Then a t1 battlecruisers round Then even a damn t1 battleship round. But when you gotta bring gilas or ishtars or command ships or orthurs to compete its kinda a Pay to Even Participate Competition I lost the Orthrus to a Cerb you twatwaffle. I couldn't even catch or even land a hit on it because he MWD fitted probably with Snakes and I was 100mn fitted with crystals. If General Terms the kill wouldn't have happened because he was 100km + from me the entire fight, but in the rules set and abided by he won. And the Cerb fit was entirely T2/Meta4. So please stop shiptoasting. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 588	Posted - 2015.08.17 19:37:18 - [370] - Quote Valkin Mordic wrote: twatwaffle The match is over.

Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3343	Posted - 2015.08.17 19:42:11 - [371] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: The "Special People" Thunderdome category will be added for space cripples such as yourself eventually. Don't fret. Thank you. Im fine with losing a round of faction/t2 frigs Then a t1/navy cruiser round Then a t1 battlecruisers round Then even a damn t1 battleship round. But when you gotta bring gilas or ishtars or command ships or orthurs to compete its kinda a Pay to Even Participate Competition I lost the Orthrus to a Cerb you twatwaffle. I couldn't even catch or even land a hit on it because he MWD fitted probably with Snakes and I was 100mn fitted with crystals. If General Terms the kill wouldn't have happened because he was 100km + from me the entire fight, but in the rules set and abided by he won. And the Cerb fit was entirely T2/Meta4. So please stop shiptoasting. EDIT: Also if you can't field a 700mil cruiser for the fun on it, then your really not playing EVE right. I can make over 1 bil in a week without ever undocking. And that me being lazy about it. I also lost an oruthus to a cerb. Same way too. ISK doesn't buy victory. If you compare thunderdome to a billionaires hunting club, you are welcome to abstain from participating. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1327	Posted - 2015.08.17 20:27:19 - [372] - Quote I can volunteer to hold iskies in the future as well. I consider everyone in C&P community blues except for the obvious ones (Veers, Anslol, etc) and I don't screw blues, ever. When I say I'll be honest, I will be honest. When I'm planning on not being honest, I don't say anything. Here, I will be honest. I also handled 10 bill in prize money for Carlvagio, feel free to contact him to confirm. I'm also fine with Noragen doing it. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2121	Posted - 2015.08.17 20:40:57 - [373] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: When I say I'll be honest, I will be honest. When I'm planning on not being honest, I don't say anything. Here, I will be honest. As much as I trust you (and I really do), I have to say that the image of the whole "One of us always tells the truth and the other one always lies" popped into my head when I read that. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3344	Posted - 2015.08.17 21:03:55 - [374] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: I can volunteer to hold iskies in the future as well. I consider everyone in C&P community blues except for the obvious ones (Veers, Anslol, etc) and I don't screw blues, ever. When I say I'll be honest, I will be honest. When I'm planning on not being honest, I don't say anything. Here, I will be honest. I also handled 10 bill in prize money for Carlvagio, feel free to contact him to confirm. I'm also fine with Noragen doing it. I adopt the exact same policy. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 589	Posted - 2015.08.17 21:35:00 - [375] - Quote I'II do it. I only steal from people I've just met.
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1749	Posted - 2015.08.17 22:42:02 - [376] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: The "Special People" Thunderdome category will be added for space cripples such as yourself eventually. Don't fret. I literally lost it reading this Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Noragen Neirfallas The Scope Gallente Federation 1749	Posted - 2015.08.17 22:44:38 - [377] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Sorry i cant 1v1 you guys in a thunderdome cuz i dont have 5 bill to throw away each comp Cheaper fit won Cheaper hull won (I can't comment on the fit because I didn't fly it) Cheaper fit won Cheaper fit won (by a long shot I'd imagine) Thunderdome is replete with victories by less expensive vessels. In particular, the most expensive fit that I think I've seen to date (the last link above) lost. ISK doesn't buy victory, and in the cruiser round a sub-100mil navy faction cruiser hull would likely take you a long way. Admittedly, the battleship round will be considerably pricier, but even a fully insured T1 battleship can likely stand toe-to-toe with faction battleships if the theorycraft behind it is strong enough. Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: But when you gotta bring gilas or ishtars or command ships or orthurs to compete its kinda a Pay to Even Participate Competition This is being addressed in future brackets. not because of cost but because some hulls are simply so overpowered. (Which probably drives the cost up, but chicken, egg, yeah.) I guess my point is...stick around and see what we come up with next. We're learning as we go and tweaking things to make it better. Our goal, despite some shiptoasting to the contrary, is to be as inclusive as possible. I personally would like to see a bracket dedicated entirely non-faction, vanilla T1 hulls. Again, not because of the cost, but to push limits on what people can come up with (although the lower cost to participate is certainly a benefit). Cara Forelli wrote: Leto Thule wrote: We have used Chribba up to this point. I'd like to change over to someone in-house, but I'm not sure how that will go. Would be a nice opportunity for someone to start building trust and even if it failed, each contestant is only risking 50m which is significantly less than what they are fielding. I'd offer, but I'm only well known in NCQA, not C&P. I'd offer, but as a contestant, there's an obvious conflict of interest. My fit in all its blingy glory Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1328	Posted - 2015.08.18 16:35:47 - [378] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: When I say I'll be honest, I will be honest. When I'm planning on not being honest, I don't say anything. Here, I will be honest. As much as I trust you (and I really do), I have to say that the image of the whole "One of us always tells the truth and the other one always lies" popped into my head when I read that. LOL I can see the analogy yes. It's really rather accurate. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 1303	Posted - 2015.08.18 17:38:07 - [379] - Quote I'll hold any isk that needs held. I'll also just outright pay the entrance fee for the space poor urchin that was being discussed above. As to my honesty... I put up 500mil to the winner of the last thunderdome and made good on that. I've also put up a faction something or other for the winner of this. As to pay to win and rules.... Being a C&P sponsored event it was made clear in an earlier thread that it's not to be about a complex set of rules. It's to be about all that has made the fortunes of the various folks that call this forum section home - cunning, guts, skill, wits and an outright lack of regard for conformity. If anyone truly feels out isked and unable to participate, send me a mail and I'll give you some pointers and such to help you get through. I'll give you an opinion while I'm up on my soap box. Winning the event is what I would consider and unfortunate consequence of the necessity of a bracket providing a reasonable way to procede from beginning to end. I'm putting up prizes for the winners just to generate more interest. Don't make it about winning. Watch the videos and read the battle reports - THAT is what this is about. Thunderdome - 2 guys in 1 guy out. The meat of this event is in each individual fight and the entertainment we all get from it. To that end I'm now moved to present 4 prizes from my prize locker. Bracket Winner - some frigate - determined by the bracket Best Fight Winners - cruisers(2) - determined by some unfair form of group voting Best Content of the Event - BS - determined by secret discussion between Mo and Leto I'm now satisified with my thunderdome prize offerings. I'll detail out the hulls and other knick knacks before it's all over. Any and all issues with my prize scheme can be mailed directly to Bronson.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2154	Posted - 2015.08.18 17:40:58 - [380] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: I put up 500mil to the winner of the last thunderdome and made good on that. Confirming this. I spent it all on Fedos and Exotic Dancers. It was quite a party. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome

Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2466	Posted - 2015.08.18 17:58:54 - [381] - Quote Jonah, it wont be overheating in anger, it will be overheating in joy. Also. I really want to watch the videos of the space-cripple bracket. Valkin, yes we will have our match. I just need my bosses to stop being dumber than me for a few days. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1328	Posted - 2015.08.18 18:34:31 - [382] - Quote If all goes well Imortalist and I will be done our match by the end of the week. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3368	Posted - 2015.08.18 20:14:26 - [383] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: I'll hold any isk that needs held. I'll also just outright pay the entrance fee for the space poor urchin that was being discussed above. As to my honesty... I put up 500mil to the winner of the last thunderdome and made good on that. I've also put up a faction something or other for the winner of this. As to pay to win and rules.... Being a C&P sponsored event it was made clear in an earlier thread that it's not to be about a complex set of rules. It's to be about all that has made the fortunes of the various folks that call this forum section home - cunning, guts, skill, wits and an outright lack of regard for conformity. If anyone truly feels out isked and unable to participate, send me a mail and I'll give you some pointers and such to help you get through. I'll give you an opinion while I'm up on my soap box. Winning the event is what I would consider and unfortunate consequence of the necessity of a bracket providing a reasonable way to procede from beginning to end. I'm putting up prizes for the winners just to generate more interest. Don't make it about winning. Watch the videos and read the battle reports - THAT is what this is about. Thunderdome - 2 guys in 1 guy out. The meat of this event is in each individual fight and the entertainment we all get from it. To that end I'm now moved to present 4 prizes from my prize locker. Bracket Winner - some frigate - determined by the bracket Best Fight Winners - cruisers(2) - determined by some unfair form of group voting Best Content of the Event - BS - determined by secret discussion between Mo and Leto I'm now satisified with my thunderdome prize offerings. I'll detail out the hulls and other knick knacks before it's all over. Any and all issues with my prize scheme can be mailed directly to Bronson. This is perhaps the best description of thunderdome yet. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3428	Posted - 2015.08.22 15:07:58 - [384] - Quote Get your matches rolling people. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
lmmortalist lmmortality Associates 53	Posted - 2015.08.22 18:04:52 - [385] - Quote A very fun match between me and Tengu Grib is done. After many whooshes right beside his sniper fit Naga I finally managed to land a scram+web on him for good with my 500MN hull tanked navy brutix: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=30187914 You should note Tengu used his alt character for the fight which was fine by me and not against the rules AFAIK. I think there was a glitch with the fraps so I'm not sure if we have a clip of the fight unfortunately :/
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1347	Posted - 2015.08.22 18:11:47 - [386] - Quote Speaking of which, Immortalist and I had our match. Seeing as I'd made some assumptions about Tengu's skill training that turned out to be false, (why the hell can't he use sensor damps, what was I thinking not training those?) he agreed I could fly my alt, Tyr Sigmundr. I tried to record it but it kept saying I wasn't playing a game so there was nothing to record. Really not sure what was going on, but regardless, there's no video of the match. Sorry. Maybe it didn't like me having to Eve's open stacked on top of each other? No idea. As such I'll simply have to tell the tale with my words. I landed on grid first in my Naga. Immortalist landed on me at about 60km and by the time he stopped moving he was 92km away. I was fairly confident my mircrowarpdrive could keep me away from his potential scram and or webs. My sensor damps knocked his targeting range down to arms reach. Initially I was manually orbiting him at let my range dip down to 60 km so I could use Antimatter. His shields melted slower than I would have liked, but they melted. I was surprised to see his range close to 30 km and cursed my poor piloting skills while overheating my micro pushing my speed up to 2500 or so. A cycle or two later I was comfortably back out at 50km and orbitting again. A second time his range dipped frighteningly quickly and this time he came within 25 km or so. Again I was able to push range back out to where I was comfortable. At this point I didn't like him getting that close to me and just burned straight away from him as he passed %80 structure or so. This turned out to be a fatal mistake as his battleship microwarpdrive kicked in and he burned straight for me, doubling my top speed. In our discussion after my only saving grace had been his atrocious agility, so my manual orbiting had been keeping me alive up till that point. On that burn he actually managed to target lock me and apply his scram and web. The gig was up and I melted in seconds. Here's the mail: https://zkillboard.com/kill/48616988/ gf, it was exciting and really fun. Had he not used the oversized micro I believe I would have won. He did however, and it payed off. Had I anticipated him countering the naga so effectively, I likely would have brought another structure brick brutix, which likely would have won as I'm sure he had to make fitting sacrifices to fit the oversized micro. It turns out that once in a while rock does beat paper. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
lmmortalist lmmortality Associates 54	Posted - 2015.08.22 18:55:53 - [387] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: A second time his range dipped frighteningly quickly and this time he came within 25 km or so. Again I was able to push range back out to where I was comfortable. At this point I didn't like him getting that close to me and just burned straight away from him as he passed %80 structure or so. Heh, I'm not sure if you noticed but at one time I went right past you from 13km away, and the time right after that one I actually managed to get an overheated web cycle on you. The only problem at that point was my ridiculous speed with which I wasn't able to stop in time and flew too far away again. I was maybe 62% hull when the match was over. Close calls throughout the whole fight.
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1349	Posted - 2015.08.22 19:14:34 - [388] - Quote lmmortalist wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: A second time his range dipped frighteningly quickly and this time he came within 25 km or so. Again I was able to push range back out to where I was comfortable. At this point I didn't like him getting that close to me and just burned straight away from him as he passed %80 structure or so. Heh, I'm not sure if you noticed but at one time I went right past you from 13km away, and the time right after that one I actually managed to get an overheated web cycle on you. The only problem at that point was my ridiculous speed with which I wasn't able to stop in time and flew too far away again. I was maybe 62% hull when the match was over. Close calls throughout the whole fight. lol I wasn't watching close enough to see you go right past me, I did see the web land one cycle but wasn't sure how I managed to escape it, too funny that you overshot. Was a really nail biting fight, even though it wasn't all that long. Also didn't realize I got you as low as %62. If you hadn't of tackled me when you did you might not have gotten another chance. I really need to work on my manual piloting skills. Maybe I should put an alt in RvB again... Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Leto Thule Origin. Black Legion. 3429	Posted - 2015.08.22 21:51:10 - [389] - Quote Tengu, it appears we get angry together. You up for late tomorrow or anytime Monday? Bracket updated Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1350	Posted - 2015.08.22 22:00:14 - [390] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Tengu, it appears we get angry together. You up for late tomorrow or anytime Monday? Bracket updated Tomorrow is bad but I think I can do US evening Monday. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.



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