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Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2304	Posted - 2015.08.27 02:56:31 - [421] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Madness to fit anything else The all t2/meta version still does 600 and 300 without the invuls Best passive fits are capless passive fits. Your peak tank is a bit lower, but you're 100% neut-proof. Details aside, yeah, no industrial or barge is going to even come close to breaking that. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 3474	Posted - 2015.08.27 03:26:54 - [422] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Madness to fit anything else The all t2/meta version still does 600 and 300 without the invuls Best passive fits are capless passive fits. Your peak tank is a bit lower, but you're 100% neut-proof. Details aside, yeah, no industrial or barge is going to even come close to breaking that. Should we do something else with the round before its too late? Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire 1891	Posted - 2015.08.27 03:37:59 - [423] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Madness to fit anything else The all t2/meta version still does 600 and 300 without the invuls Best passive fits are capless passive fits. Your peak tank is a bit lower, but you're 100% neut-proof. Details aside, yeah, no industrial or barge is going to even come close to breaking that. Should we do something else with the round before its too late? YES. I believe I said this already Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Demerius Xenocratus Rapid Withdrawal 607	Posted - 2015.08.27 03:44:05 - [424] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Demerius Xenocratus wrote: I have been surprised frankly that anyone used short/medium range fits when there's no drawback to sniper fits unless you get caught. The issue with sniper fits is that you have to also be able to deal with someone who gets in under your guns. That means tank and tackle, or being mobile enough to dictate range for the entire fight, which makes fitting a bit interesting. A typical fleet sniper fit would likely die in a fire in Thunderdome. The benefit to short/medium range fits is always DPS, and if Thunderdome has taught me anything it's that DPS is secondary to tactics. Leto Thule wrote: I know right. Get your matches moving people! The first battleship match is happening before week's end. If this one keeps to recent trends, the victor will be at about 5% structure with all modules 90% burnt and nearly out of ammo and Noragen will be rolling around on the ground screaming at the monitor after he watches the video. It seems like a kite fit not limited by the necessity of holding point should be able to maintain range pretty easy. You have 50-150k to work with depending on fit and ship size, and you should be faster than a brawler. My only real concern would be e-war.
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 3476	Posted - 2015.08.27 03:47:27 - [425] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Madness to fit anything else The all t2/meta version still does 600 and 300 without the invuls Best passive fits are capless passive fits. Your peak tank is a bit lower, but you're 100% neut-proof. Details aside, yeah, no industrial or barge is going to even come close to breaking that. Should we do something else with the round before its too late? YES. I believe I said this already Die in a fire. But yes, you did. Ok, suggestions? I wanna make the loser round bracket championship something...different. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2304	Posted - 2015.08.27 03:56:49 - [426] - Quote Demerius Xenocratus wrote: It seems like a kite fit not limited by the necessity of holding point should be able to maintain range pretty easy. You have 50-150k to work with depending on fit and ship size, and you should be faster than a brawler. My only real concern would be e-war. Without giving too much away, what I can tell you is that kitey battleships are much more constrained by cap than kitey cruisers. Ouch. Also, damps have been relatively common to counter snipers, so you'd have to rely either on luck or sniping from beyond damp range (which is pretty damned long). I'm not saying they can't work; I've used them to good effect myself. They're just...interesting to fit and fly in this setting. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Noragen Neirfallas Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire 1892	Posted - 2015.08.27 06:04:50 - [427] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Bronson Hughes wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Madness to fit anything else The all t2/meta version still does 600 and 300 without the invuls Best passive fits are capless passive fits. Your peak tank is a bit lower, but you're 100% neut-proof. Details aside, yeah, no industrial or barge is going to even come close to breaking that. Should we do something else with the round before its too late? YES. I believe I said this already Die in a fire. But yes, you did. Ok, suggestions? I wanna make the loser round bracket championship something...different. Losers round screams rookie ships at me... Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Demerius Xenocratus Rapid Withdrawal 607	Posted - 2015.08.27 09:51:34 - [428] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Demerius Xenocratus wrote: It seems like a kite fit not limited by the necessity of holding point should be able to maintain range pretty easy. You have 50-150k to work with depending on fit and ship size, and you should be faster than a brawler. My only real concern would be e-war. Without giving too much away, what I can tell you is that kitey battleships are much more constrained by cap than kitey cruisers. Ouch. Also, damps have been relatively common to counter snipers, so you'd have to rely either on luck or sniping from beyond damp range (which is pretty damned long). I'm not saying they can't work; I've used them to good effect myself. They're just...interesting to fit and fly in this setting. I'm thinking more of cruisers when I say these things, maybe nano BCs. Battleship 1v1 is gonna be an odd duck...it's not something that really ever happens. Are you guys just doing T1 BS? Or are faction allowed?
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 3484	Posted - 2015.08.27 12:09:52 - [429] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Losers round screams rookie ships at me... So it is written, so shall it be done. Time to dust off my taipan. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragen Neirfallas Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire 1898	Posted - 2015.08.27 12:23:13 - [430] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Losers round screams rookie ships at me... So it is written, so shall it be done. Time to dust off my taipan. I'm breaking out a gank catalyst to watch this. For science of course Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2307	Posted - 2015.08.27 15:20:34 - [431] - Quote Denizens of C&P, the first battleship has been felled in the name of Thunderdome. Watch here. Kill report available here. I will provide analysis later so as not to ruin the video, but for now I will say this: range dictation in a battleship is far more...interesting than in smaller vessels. Enjoy. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
lmmortalist lmmortality Associates 60	Posted - 2015.08.27 17:59:46 - [432] - Quote There is not very much to analyze on my part. This fight equaled range dictation. I spent a few hours on the eft trying to figure out the best possible fit out of rather many different battleship hulls and found this one to have very few weaknesses. On my part the strategy was to simply hold my range for as long as possible and when caught I would switch to a brawling mode (which I was prepared for as well). Unfortunately the fight never went all the way to that point. I was prepared for some serious micro management with creating bookmarks around the grid when trying to kite but in the end didn't end up using those since Bronson's mobile micro jump units ended up working as nice beacons for warping around whenever necessary.
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1376	Posted - 2015.08.27 18:08:07 - [433] - Quote lmmortalist wrote: There is not very much to analyze on my part. This fight equaled range dictation. I spent a few hours on the eft trying to figure out the best possible fit out of rather many different battleship hulls and found this one to have very few weaknesses. On my part the strategy was to simply hold my range for as long as possible and when caught I would switch to a brawling mode (which I was prepared for as well). Unfortunately the fight never went all the way to that point. I was prepared for some serious micro management with creating bookmarks around the grid when trying to kite but in the end didn't end up using those since Bronson's mobile micro jump units ended up working as nice beacons for warping around whenever necessary. Rattlesnake was a strong choice. I agree, it has a lot of strengths, and not many weaknesses. Well done sirs, entertaining to watch to say the least. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2314	Posted - 2015.08.27 18:09:39 - [434] - Quote lmmortalist wrote: I was prepared for some serious micro management with creating bookmarks around the grid when trying to kite but in the end didn't end up using those since Bronson's mobile micro jump units ended up working as nice beacons for warping around whenever necessary. This was the one fatal flaw in my theorycrafting. I built a ship focused entirely on maintaining a range of 25-30km and assumed that I would be warping around to achieve it...but didn't stop to think that my opponent may be doing the same thing. Once I realized that I couldn't dictate range, I knew the fight was over. I tried to kill your drones hoping to stem the incoming DPS, but it was a total Hail Mary. Maybe, just maybe, if I had popped my first MMJD before warping to you so you didn't have a free warp-to I would have been able to hold you and at least applied some DPS. We'll never know, but either way you managed to exploit a fatal flaw in my theorycrafting, and I died in a fire for it. Well done sir. I hope to redeem myself against you in the finals. Tengu Grib wrote: Rattlesnake was a strong choice. I agree, it has a lot of strengths, and not many weaknesses. Well done sirs, entertaining to watch to say the least. The Rattler is incredibly powerful 1v1. The only reason I didn't go with one myself was the fact that I had used a Gila several times before and I was trying to be unpredictable. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3120	Posted - 2015.08.27 18:36:30 - [435] - Quote You came to a battleship fight without a warp scrambler! I can't believe anyone would do that.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2314	Posted - 2015.08.27 18:52:01 - [436] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: You came to a battleship fight without a warp scrambler! I can't believe anyone would do that. When one bases their entire fit on staying out of warp scramble range, a warp scrambler doesn't seem so essential. I guess the takeaway here is that planning on engaging at 30km, solo, in a battleship isn't necessarily a good idea. Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 3489	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:43:45 - [437] - Quote Congrats to Immortalist for finally toppling the reigning champ! Bracket updated Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 3490	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:46:31 - [438] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Rattlesnake was a strong choice. I agree, it has a lot of strengths, and not many weaknesses. Well done sirs, entertaining to watch to say the least. Its like a big Gila that reps. Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Tengu Grib Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 1377	Posted - 2015.08.27 23:02:19 - [439] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Rattlesnake was a strong choice. I agree, it has a lot of strengths, and not many weaknesses. Well done sirs, entertaining to watch to say the least. Its like a big Gila that reps. It's drones are noticeably less mobile though. I guess that's one thing against it. It's drones are either slow and can be outrun (maybe not by a BS but still) or stationary and have to contend with tracking and fixed optimal. Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities. StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
Valkin Mordirc 1428	Posted - 2015.08.28 02:30:24 - [440] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Rattlesnake was a strong choice. I agree, it has a lot of strengths, and not many weaknesses. Well done sirs, entertaining to watch to say the least. Its like a big Gila that reps. It's drones are noticeably less mobile though. I guess that's one thing against it. It's drones are either slow and can be outrun (maybe not by a BS but still) or stationary and have to contend with tracking and fixed optimal. Rattler with a Gecko is extremely horrible to contend with in brawling range. However since Thunderdome doesn't really have a range limit, like you would have with a standard fight or the AT, I think the Sentry drones are the best choice as you can just pop around and just drop more. It's really hard to kill a sentry from a rattler, then trying to chase down another set that's 100km is rather annoying I'd imagine. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2510	Posted - 2015.08.30 05:11:46 - [441] - Quote Well, Valkin and I had our match and the win goes to Valkin. His Onyx with damps turned out to be a pretty hard counter to my kitey Navy Omen. It was either bore each other to death or a face full of missiles for me. I really hate boredom. https://zkillboard.com/kill/48770210/ Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Valkin Mordirc 1437	Posted - 2015.08.30 05:23:38 - [442] - Quote https://zkillboard.com/kill/48770210/ Looks like I get to move up. :Obligatory commentary: So I was doing some crafting and after my rather embarrassing loss against immortal I went out to trying and figure out away to keep that from happening. I figured Damps would probably be my best bet. But I knew just one wasn't going to be enough. I needed at least three to trying to force a fight into my own personal brawler comfort zone. I looked through all the faction ships first, but couldn't really find a ship that worked well for me in my favour. Ashi, and the strat could only hold a max of two damps, with the idea of keeping the tank active, I would still need a Cap booster, and a MWD, and still have the reasonable CPU and tank to keep up. They both seemed to work out fairly well, but I actually stumbled into something that seemed to work very well. The Onyx. Seems counter-intuitive right? A Heavy Tackle ship that wasn't going to use in it's purpose built role. Well all the HIC can support a stupid amount of tank. And the Oynx has a six mid set up, if I forgo any tackle at all at the expensive on turning the limitless area of the Thunderdome into a small 40km area. Which meant RLML could hit easily into it and tackle and speed were fairly much not needed. With a Three damp, Adaptive, MWD and XL-ASB. for the Mids, I could've gone without the Adaptive but I know Omar liked his blasters and So just incase he did bring a demios or something of the sort I went with more tank that a Scram or other mid utility. The Highs needed to be RLML as the range of them synergized well with the damps. With using the Adaptive Invul, I was able to use a Rig slot for an ANCI and that allowed the utility High-slot to fit a Medium nos comfortably. So this is what I came up with. [Onyx, Onyx] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II So with all that, I was rocking a pretty knarly tank. I had a blue pill, but I wasn't rocking a Crystal set. I had a Mid-grade Slave at the time, and the rest was a 4% implant which wasn't needed and Hybrid modifiers. So with a pretty good plan in set. Me and Omar had our match. He brought a Nomen. Nomens are really good ships. But I knew that with the Damps he would have to be inside my range. He lands at 60km and Lock them up and apply the damps. He floats out at 60km, he is by far faster then me, so after only trying briefly to catch him, I hold back. He slowly starts to move in, and manages to lock me up at 40km. I open fire at him and manages to start landing hits on me. He does a very good job at keep his range though. He never once dropped into sub 20km ranges. So if I was scram fitted I wouldn't be able to shut him down, and it kept him out of neut range. But at this range I out DPS him and out tank him, so he pulls back and recovers armor before trying again. I try to target his drones, but due to some overview failures, I have some troubles getting them locked. My overview fu is admittedly weak. Eventually though, it ended. My Onyx was thankfully capable of beating out the Nomen. Good fight Omar. ^.^ `#DeleteTheWeak`
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 3508	Posted - 2015.08.30 13:24:47 - [443] - Quote Great idea with the HIC. A great example of thinking out of the box... Omar likely said "WTF?" when it landed on grid... Bracket updated Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Demerius Xenocratus Rapid Withdrawal 609	Posted - 2015.08.30 23:07:33 - [444] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Leto Thule wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Rattlesnake was a strong choice. I agree, it has a lot of strengths, and not many weaknesses. Well done sirs, entertaining to watch to say the least. Its like a big Gila that reps. It's drones are noticeably less mobile though. I guess that's one thing against it. It's drones are either slow and can be outrun (maybe not by a BS but still) or stationary and have to contend with tracking and fixed optimal. Geckos are almost as fast as medium drones, can be faster off a bonused hull with a drone nav comp. Terrifying ship. I want to see someone use a Machariel. Battlecruiser mobility in a battleship duel seems like it would be devastating.
Valkin Mordirc 1442	Posted - 2015.08.30 23:39:42 - [445] - Quote Yeah honestly the two Battleships I expect to the during the rest of this is the Rattler on the Mach, Maybe a Barghest. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2333	Posted - 2015.08.31 01:03:24 - [446] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Great idea with the HIC. A great example of thinking out of the box... Omar likely said "WTF?" when it landed on grid... Bracket updated I nearly went with an Onyx similar to Valkin's for one of the cruiser rounds. I like the idea that all HICs are tanky as hell, reasonably combat capable after their latest balance pass, and (in a Thunderdome setting) all have a utility high slot. I'm really glad someone else came up with it too. Please tell me there is video of this fight.... Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Demerius Xenocratus Rapid Withdrawal 610	Posted - 2015.08.31 01:04:42 - [447] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: Yeah honestly the two Battleships I expect to the during the rest of this is the Rattler on the Mach, Maybe a Barghest. I've only flown a Mach for missions and even with no nanos or implants it gets nearly 1500 m/s cold and is quite nimble. I'd like to see a snaked nano-mach in action. Seems like it would be more maneuverable than some cruisers.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2396	Posted - 2015.09.03 21:45:16 - [448] - Quote Two things: First: come on people! Let's get some boats violenced! Second: My beloved Fedo that has been with me for every single Thunderdome match perished in my e-honor match with Domino. I'm...I'm not sure how I can go on. I usually eat Fedo with spiced wine, but I had determined to keep this one as a pet...until the end.... Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Valkin Mordirc 1455	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:02:41 - [449] - Quote I am currently trying to contact Lodestone so hopfully we can get something started `#DeleteTheWeak`
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 1351	Posted - 2015.09.05 15:05:37 - [450] - Quote A little update on my end. I had some time last night and an amarr favorable wh so I got 2 of the prize ships fitted up and ready to go. I got a good giggle out of fitting them as they are prize ships and all I really need to do is fill the slots. The frigate for the bracket winner is complete. The BS for the best overall is also fitted out and ready to go. I'm still pondering the cruisers for best fight of the tourney. That being said I'd like to remind folks that the 'best fight' is to be determined by the folks on this forum through some to be determined voting process. That's where I need some help. You folks need to sort through the various battle reports and vids and decide what you think is the best fight of the tourney. At some point someone will be asking you to cast your votes and you'll need to include your line of thinking. Then we'll sort it out from there. Oh yeah, all you chumps still in this thing. Did it occur to any of you to get your combined acts together and finish this off??? If you notice the title it is : "Thunderdome - July 2015" You've already missed the month by a month - I don't want to see this go into 2016. Get your crap sorted, get in a ship and get shooting. This IS NOT a bridal shower. Let's go ladies.

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