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maarud Einherjar Incorporated Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 11:45:00 - [61] over the next month, ppl will start using it. Invention was only starting to be tested the last couple days before Kali went live... no one has tested it, no one knows how it works, no one has really tried and tested the exploration side... It's a bit of a joke really. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.30 12:10:00 - [62] Edited by: slothe on 30/11/2006 12:15:12 so if i have 60000 rp in my research agent how many datacores can i get from him? anyone care to explain how this is meant to work, i read the comment above but am still kindof clueless. *Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar*
maarud Einherjar Incorporated Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 12:16:00 - [63] Originally by: slothe so if i have 60000 rp in my research agent how many datacores can i get from him? for starship engineering (1500 per datacore), 40 datacores for other fields (500 per datacore), 120 datacores Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Crazy Smith	Posted - 2006.11.30 12:52:00 - [64] After reading this thread, my name isn't taken from the wind... I feel crazy. I'm crazy. Why In the world I should continue my subscription for the next few months? To get excrement shoveled into my pod on every step? Why dont eve just split into 2 player sides and take out small businesses altogether? All I hear that macro miner that, macro grinding this. This corp is denying people from complex etc. I made a concious choice of making a science/industry character. glorious promises of changes in the game. All those nice features on the drawing board and in development. Nice pictures painted on the horizon. what to do? go for suicide pvp? build 1000 frigs and just go kamikaze until isk run out? Was that enough ranting and raving like a loonatic? Oh the point I meant to say. Where are the facts? Everything about inventions are rumours and heresay. Well I dont have buddies in devs/coders in CCP. where to find information about invention? logical place could be the NPC R&D agents. Is there information available? NO. there is a buy datacore button. And very true point. there are only four (4) mechanical engineering agents in the game. in the whole universe. How weird is that?
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem	Posted - 2006.11.30 13:39:00 - [65] Originally by: James Snowscoran It does indeed look prenerfed to me. Essentially, I think the fundamental problem is about the low runs on the bpcs. Lowrun bpcs isn't going to 'provide (...) a way to break into the Tech Level II business, providing market competition' in any meaningful way. The primary use will probably be 0.0 self-sufficiency, which is okay, but apparently not the primary point behind the feature. indeed. i think the un-nerfing could be as simple as making the datacores what? 40%-50% cheaper (by increasing ease of aquiring them - greater supply to same demand = lower price). this would make the proffit margins better, whilst still keeping the BPO guys safe in their ivory towers. ========================================== Iy
Sykosys Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.30 13:54:00 - [66] To those complaining about Mech eng agents, they are part of minmatar R&D Corps and there are plenty of them. Has anyone actually been able to Invent anything though?? Also When will the problem with Mobile labs setup before revelations not having invention slots be fixed?
Serapis Aote TBC	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:40:00 - [67] Originally by: Aphotic Raven If its faster/easier to Rat or mission to get the cash for a massively overpriced T2 ship (ishkur sells for 25 mil now.. i remember the days when it went for 12... the days before i had frig 5 ) then why bother with invention at all CCP? make it easy. This is the problem i see, most people will just say screw it, its a pain in the but, i might get unlucky and waste a ton of time (the chance factor for me is a bit ridiculous, make the chance part only reflect how many runs and quality, but not a complete failure and waste of time). Most people that want to get into tech 2 production will probably just leave their R&D points and not waste on Invention and hope for BPO. The fact that being an inventor and playing the game, decreases your chances of breaking into the BPO market is also a bit ridiculous. Maybe add in two different point systems for R&D, one for the lottery and 1 for Invention.
Serapis Aote TBC	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:44:00 - [68] Edited by: Serapis Aote on 30/11/2006 14:45:41 Edited by: Serapis Aote on 30/11/2006 14:45:12 Originally by: Aphotic Raven If its faster/easier to Rat or mission to get the cash for a massively overpriced T2 ship (ishkur sells for 25 mil now.. i remember the days when it went for 12... the days before i had frig 5 ) then why bother with invention at all CCP? make it easy. This is the problem i see, most people will just say screw it, i can make more isk/hour doing something else, and know there will be a payoff, then i can go buy a hac. If it is a pain in the but alot of people will just not do it, i might get unlucky and waste a ton of time (the chance factor for me is a bit ridiculous, make the chance part only reflect how many runs and quality, but not a complete failure and waste of time). Most people that want to get into tech 2 production will probably just leave their R&D points and not waste on Invention and hope for BPO. The fact that being an inventor and playing the game, decreases your chances of breaking into the BPO market is also a bit ridiculous. Maybe add in two different point systems for R&D, one for the lottery and 1 for Invention.
Hajyt	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:57:00 - [69] Should have just added a patent system... People who got the t2 BPO could do so for 3-6 months without fear...then the BPO would become public domain (ie every week another t2 BPO of that type is handed out.) In that 3-6 months they could make quite a bit of money for just being the lucky person in a lottery. Once more people start having the BPO, they won't be able to continue their price gouging, but could still make a profit. Chances you'll ever see this? .01% Why? Probably too far down **** creek to paddle back. Also current t2 BPO owners would whine too much.
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.11.30 16:08:00 - [70] So has anybody been able to invent anything yet? --- "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Ishmael Hansen No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.11.30 18:57:00 - [71] I wanna invent market caps, items can't be sold above 100% profit.
Jaguar Dragon Blood Association of Dragons	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:01:00 - [72] I'D like to mention one thing your all forgeting TECH-3 ccp has mentioned it,many times. t3 will only become available through invention and more than likely only if you have a TECH 2 BPO at present the t2 bpo's are mostly in the hands of a few compared to the over all numbers of t2 bpo's that are out there. those players will completly control t3 and prices will be out of this game. all the while invention is so costly and time consuming its a total waist of time. your all forgetting the decrytors and data interfaces. these can only be found through exploration, without these your bpc will be very short run and ME/realy bad. they also increase your chance of a succesful invention. instead of a total loss. plus the invention lab slots. AVAILABILTY probe costs and time to find the stuff in deadspace. just how many probes your going to launch to find 1 deadspace object. before kali came out with patch notes ccp gm [forget his name] posted a blog that said EVERY SYSTEM IN EVE WILL HAVE 10 DEADSPACE PLACES to find and explore. the post kali info says,in each system there is a few and maybe none. just how much time and money am i to spend to get a final product that in my opinion will cost the inventor, a over cost of more than the t2 bpo holders selling price, for what ever t2 bpo holder is selling. THIS IS A TOTAL JOKE AND A SCAM if this is ccp's thought out final product on invention, ccp employes should be FIRED or is this just another big isk sink to keep empire players poor. i bet it's not like this in low sec or 0.0 and there are no invention slots in my pos mobile labs in safe space. ever feel like your that donkey with a stick tied to his neck hanging in front of him with a carrot hanging off it,, NEVER ABLE TO GET IT.
Hayah Theos	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:40:00 - [73] Good to see that people are finally waking up to the fact that EVE is a "rigged" game... not a level playing field.... five card Monte... a scam you can't win at. Eventually this will destroy the game because it will drive away potential new subscribers as it becomes known in the gaming community. Who wants to play at Poker with a stacked deck?? NOBODY. As it stands now, the game is run for the entertainment of the BPO GODS and their cronies (BPOG&C). All the rest of us people are just fools who pay to pilot targets around for the BPOG&C to shoot up. Those BPOs were handed out via a POORLY thought out method in the past and now CCP won't fix the problem. My best guess is that, rather than correcting it, they have just decided to keep the BPOG&C as human Uber-Bosses in the game. It is sad because EVE has such great potential as a game engine if it was only tweaked properly. (Read getting rid of unbalanced isk sources. And yes, limited T2 BPOs in the hands of a few has ruined this game.) I played this game for the past year, developed 3 corporations with 65 pilots and had a hand in building two POSs in zero space. Then I woke up to the fact that no matter how big we got, we would never be able to compete with the likes of BOB, ASCN, RA, and others that long ago won the BPO lottery. We could never use t2 equipment like they do, which meant we could never engage in combat with BPOG&C on an even footing, no matter how long or hard we played. Now all you BPO cronies can flame me with your nonsense about why your prefferred position in the game is justified. And CCP can stuff their explanations as to why they are continuing to support their "pets" in the game up their collective rearends. As a gamer since 1965 and a subscriber to EVE by the year, I can tell you this is driving away subscribers. I'm not even sure I will renew when my subscription runs out. For now I have resorted to piracy for my jolly rogers..and why not? After all, CCP has made every other form of competion in this game useless by giving the BPOG&C the "I WIN" button.
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:55:00 - [74] Originally by: Hayah Theos As a gamer since 1965 and a subscriber to EVE by the year, I can tell you this is driving away subscribers. I'm not even sure I will renew when my subscription runs out. For now I have resorted to piracy for my jolly rogers..and why not? After all, CCP has made every other form of competion in this game useless by giving the BPOG&C the "I WIN" button. Can I have your stuff? T2 Ships, Guns and other gear do not make this game. Yeah they are nice items to have but it doesn't make or break this game. There are no T2 BPO Gods shaping the way the game is run. Bob, ASCN, LV, and D2 didn't become the powerhouses overnight cause someone got lucky in a lotto. They rose to where they are today through battles and hard work. Invention still has some time to play out before it is deamed good or bad. I was just thinking it would be nice for the smaller end corps to be able to develope some of the basic T2 mods we use internaly. I am sure people will start to see T2 BPC's on the new contract system soon enough. I am going to tinker around with them for awhile, maybe i will get lucky. shrugs Even if I don't its something new to play with :) http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Hayah Theos	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:05:00 - [75] Blah, blah, blah Califax...BPO crony ! "some of the basic T2 mods we use internaly"...you gave away your "pet" identity.. And yes, T2 does rule this game... both in combat and as a source of isk for supreme power. Busted!!!
Daos Leghki Paxton Industries	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:50:00 - [76] Originally by: Ishmael Hansen I wanna invent market caps, items can't be sold above 100% profit. I would suggest taking an economics course. They did that in some city in California in the rental housing market. A part of the population was complaining because they had to pay high rents. They instituted a cap. A few years later, homelessness rose to about 20% as almost every renter stopped renting. The irony? The fact that most of the apartments were just sitting there empty. Repopulate Low-Sec Paxton Industries is Recruiting
Ishmael Hansen No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.01 04:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Daos Leghki Originally by: Ishmael Hansen I wanna invent market caps, items can't be sold above 100% profit. I would suggest taking an economics course. They did that in some city in California in the rental housing market. A part of the population was complaining because they had to pay high rents. They instituted a cap. A few years later, homelessness rose to about 20% as almost every renter stopped renting. The irony? The fact that most of the apartments were just sitting there empty. This isn't rl economics, if it would I would reverse engineer and make cheap tech 2 items, we don't have that liberty in eve. Market isn't borked because people are greedy, we all know they are, market is broke because of ccp system of bpo distribution.
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 15:15:00 - [78] Originally by: Hayah Theos Blah, blah, blah Califax...BPO crony ! "some of the basic T2 mods we use internaly"...you gave away your "pet" identity.. And yes, T2 does rule this game... both in combat and as a source of isk for supreme power. Busted!!! 1) We own 0 T2 BPO's 2) We are no ones "pet" we are a small corp trying to make it in eve 3) T2 BPO does not give super powers Have you ever been in 0.0 before? http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Hayah Theos	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:22:00 - [79] Originally by: Califax Oman Originally by: Hayah Theos Blah, blah, blah Califax...BPO crony ! "some of the basic T2 mods we use internaly"...you gave away your "pet" identity.. And yes, T2 does rule this game... both in combat and as a source of isk for supreme power. Busted!!! 1) We own 0 T2 BPO's 2) We are no ones "pet" we are a small corp trying to make it in eve 3) T2 BPO does not give super powers Have you ever been in 0.0 before? ****************************************** Yes I have been in 0.0 before.... I have played for a year and developed 3 corporations with 65 pilots and 2 POSs in zero. If you are not a T2 BPO GOD "bootlick", I'll eat my hat. (What else did you mean when you said "it would be 'nice' for the smaller end corps to be able to develope some of the basic T2 mods WE use internaly"? The only people I know routinely using T2 ships and mods in mass are the T2 GODS and their "bootlicks". Everyone else can't afford it or build it. As for your assertion that T2 BPOs don't bestow super powers.... you are either ignorant of game combat mechanics and in denial about the isk consequences of limited exclusive T2 BPO ownership or just plain stupid.
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:35:00 - [80] Invention allows people who have not recieved any t2 bpo's to use the skills they had trained up in hopes of a t2 bpo. It allows someone who wants to build to build something. Doesn't matter what the cost of that build is, some people just want to be able to build something other than just plain old t1 items. As for Data Core RP's being 1,500 it's not a bit deal. For example I have 5 agents all which have over 200k rp's. Datacore's don't get used up either. So thers going to be a limited amount of buyers anyway. Using a level 4 or even a level 3 reserach agent it's about one week per datacore in rp's. -John
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:50:00 - [81] Originally by: Hayah Theos Yes I have been in 0.0 before.... I have played for a year and developed 3 corporations with 65 pilots and 2 POSs in zero. If you are not a T2 BPO GOD "bootlick", I'll eat my hat. (What else did you mean when you said "it would be 'nice' for the smaller end corps to be able to develope some of the basic T2 mods WE use internaly"? The only people I know routinely using T2 ships and mods in mass are the T2 GODS and their "bootlicks". Everyone else can't afford it or build it. As for your assertion that T2 BPOs don't bestow super powers.... you are either ignorant of game combat mechanics and in denial about the isk consequences of limited exclusive T2 BPO ownership or just plain stupid. Would you like Ketchup with that hat? We as a corp, or even my members do NOT have a T2 BPO. We take rat loot and a few mins from mining and use it to make alot of our own gear. We have found that this saves time and isk as well makeing sure the corp is well rounded on all fronts. I was trying to explain to you that as a small corp we have to go and buy the few T2 items we use on a reg basis. This is why it would be nice if invention would allow us on a limited basis to make a few of the spiffy T2 items we use. If we don't have T2 it won't stop us from fighting and it won't "ruin" the game. T2 does not give super powers With your can't do it attitude and name calling no wonder you had to make 3 corps Back on topic agian now...... Has anyone had anymore luck with this new feature? I am rather interested to see some results from those people putting in the effort to test it out. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Daos Leghki Paxton Industries	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:56:00 - [82] Originally by: Ishmael Hansen Originally by: Daos Leghki Originally by: Ishmael Hansen I wanna invent market caps, items can't be sold above 100% profit. I would suggest taking an economics course. They did that in some city in California in the rental housing market. A part of the population was complaining because they had to pay high rents. They instituted a cap. A few years later, homelessness rose to about 20% as almost every renter stopped renting. The irony? The fact that most of the apartments were just sitting there empty. This isn't rl economics, if it would I would reverse engineer and make cheap tech 2 items, we don't have that liberty in eve. Market isn't borked because people are greedy, we all know they are, market is broke because of ccp system of bpo distribution. I am aggreeing that BPOs are bad. I wish they would go. But, Invention is a good thing that makes T2 work on a market model. And you CAN invent T2 stuff, that's the point. Sure, it's not cheaper to build, but it's cheaper than the sell cost. Repopulate Low-Sec Paxton Industries is Recruiting
Honneamise Amarr Biotech Industries	Posted - 2006.12.01 19:01:00 - [83] my personal problem at the moment is that you can only get MAX 4 datacore from each agent every day.
Hayah Theos	Posted - 2006.12.01 19:57:00 - [84] Califax... Califax... I sincerely apologize. After reading your last post, I realize that you are not a T2 BPO lackey... You are just grossly ignorant of the game combat mechanics that make T2 fleet engagement against T1 ships a non-event. Worse than that, you seem to be incapable of grasping the simple fact that T2 BPO GODS have an isk source that allows them to easily brush aside small hard-working Corps such a yourselves because they can destroy you in a war of attrition at any time they please and you have NO way of countering them other than trying to stay out of their way when they tell you to leave. (In fact the only effective defense is to become a T2 BPO GOD "bootlick" and serve them as CCP apparently intends.) Answer one question for me, please.... How do you enjoy building targets for the ELITE T2 GODS to destroy? I mean when I finally realized that, after a year's work, that was all I was really allowed to do in Eve, I just couldn't find the "joy" in waiting around for the T2 BPO GODS to show up and kick my hard won sand-castle to the ground (which they eventually did... actually they were quite nice about it and allowed us to pack up and leave..LOL). And I don't want to hear any "Polly Anna" crap about how you are going to fight when they come because until they do....you don't know crap about T2 vs T1 in mass. Any blustering you wish to add is "just talk" as you will find out when they arrive. Maybe then you will come to understand why an "uneven playing field" is detrimental to Eve.
Eclipsen413 Gallente 54th Knights Templar	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:04:00 - [85] i pick a blueprint then hit invention and it show me the bp, base item, and decryptor.... where do the data cores and data interfaces go???
Kire Hunted	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:07:00 - [86] Edited by: Kire Hunted on 01/12/2006 20:13:11 I'm going to have to side with califax on this one, yeah I know not a big surprise same corp and all. But I do work with industrial matters in our corp and this is how we see it anyhow. Tech II is not a win all and really ins't needed all the time pick an item and find the best named version of it and you'll find it is insanely close to the tech II version if not better. This is true for several items as tech II requires more to fit for the same stat boost. Hence why in Jita the market has tech II items cheaper than the best named about 50% of the time. The big hurt yes is the tech II ships, but a well organized gang can win with what you call strategy. and No this isn't RL but the same principals of economics still stand. You might want to note how much faster eve moves than RL in power changes and such. This is an RPG therefore reflects RL pretty closely. And I do find that the 4x datacores a day are the biggest issue atm. It isn't and end all, but if you flood the market with T2 or are able to break the stranghold without work then the market dies. You are just accelerating the curve. Take a macro and/or micro econ class. Either will explain the ideas of supply and demand very plainly to you and show how it is reflecting RL economics. As for the RP points I'm earning them for laughs. I don't make income off of R&D missions I've found another way to make isk it is amazing how R&D agents don't require you to sit there and wait. And it is called gambling you gamble that you'll get that BPO by increasing your odds right? Except everyone is doing that so I'll leave a few measily RP points in there with lower odds of getting the BPO and go grind out some BPCs if you get your BPO you win, if not guess what I win.
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:41:00 - [87] Originally by: Hayah Theos Califax... Califax... I sincerely apologize. After reading your last post, I realize that you are not a T2 BPO lackey... You are just grossly ignorant of the game combat mechanics that make T2 fleet engagement against T1 ships a non-event. Worse than that, you seem to be incapable of grasping the simple fact that T2 BPO GODS have an isk source that allows them to easily brush aside small hard-working Corps such a yourselves because they can destroy you in a war of attrition at any time they please and you have NO way of countering them other than trying to stay out of their way when they tell you to leave. (In fact the only effective defense is to become a T2 BPO GOD "bootlick" and serve them as CCP apparently intends.) Answer one question for me, please.... How do you enjoy building targets for the ELITE T2 GODS to destroy? I mean when I finally realized that, after a year's work, that was all I was really allowed to do in Eve, I just couldn't find the "joy" in waiting around for the T2 BPO GODS to show up and kick my hard won sand-castle to the ground (which they eventually did... actually they were quite nice about it and allowed us to pack up and leave..LOL). And I don't want to hear any "Polly Anna" crap about how you are going to fight when they come because until they do....you don't know crap about T2 vs T1 in mass. Any blustering you wish to add is "just talk" as you will find out when they arrive. Maybe then you will come to understand why an "uneven playing field" is detrimental to Eve. You sound a little bitter about getting your sand castle knocked over. As for your question... I enjoy building ships for myself and my corp. It saves us a freighter trip to Jita and gives our miners a sense of purpose higher than ones own wallet. How do you know the T2 BPO holders haven't attacked us? I mean I don't go searching the forums to find out if the targets I am shooting own a BPO. You fight with what you have and with good smart tactics. Make some friends, grow as a corp, hire some mercs, but don't come here and blame CCP or eve game machanics for you sucking at PVP and corp building. Adapt and overcome, or go play WoW. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Athren Soulsteal Gallente Orion Faction	Posted - 2006.12.01 21:51:00 - [88] Ok to the OP, Invention is one of the worse Ideas to come out of CCP that fact that they dropped Reverse Engineering for it just shows that CCP does not care about the NON-fighting side of EVE. As far as the T-2 BPO, CCP should just seed 1b copies into the standard markets at 10% higher cost then the T1 versions. If CCP truly wanted more people to fight, then the need to make it economically feasible to fight. I have often run across a low sec rated player and looked at their bounty, the posted on local ôGezz you bounty would not even cover the ammo to kill youö EVE is a game and should be fun for all, not just an elite few and we have had the ôgame economics discussionö for the last 4 years. I agree with the posters before, Invention is a joke as is rigging, itÆs just smoke and mirrors to cover another page in the Prat welfare program and if you donÆt see or understand that then you donÆt understand crafters (mfg players). This is like Kirk telling Bones and Scotty, ok you will need to fight your way into that heavily fortified star fortress make your was down past hundreds of POed Klingons and grab the power crystal. It will only be the two of you so take shuttle number 2, oh and hurry because you two will have to repeat thing 896 more times. Anyone like me that build a science/mfg know we are being bent over, the sad part is that i have been chasing that carrot since Beta. Quote: Think about the people that did fight you fairly. Think.... that were honorable and helped you out in times of need. Those are the real heroes of EVE. I wish I could fit all the Quote
Hayah Theos	Posted - 2006.12.01 23:15:00 - [89] Califax.... Man you really are in denial aren't you? "How do you know the T2 BPO holders haven't attacked us?" A: If they didn't show up with Dreads and T2 escorts, they weren't BPO GODS. "You fight with what you have and with good smart tactics. Make some friends, grow as a corp, hire some mercs,....." A: And then get obliterated by the BPO GODS who laugh as they squash you like a bug... "don't come here and blame CCP or eve game machanics for you sucking at PVP and corp building." A: You suck at PvP against the BPO GODs too, they just haven't taken notice of you yet because you are in a useless area of space which they have not yet decided to conquor. When they do, your sand castle will be kicked over too and you will finally realize that all you have accomplished for whatever time you have played this game has been to provide them with a little light entertainment. "Adapt and overcome, or go play WoW." A: I would love to adapt to T2, but I can't. CCP won't allow it. There is no mechanism of any useful probability of acquiring T2 BPOs or even BPCs at practical cost levels due the the T2 BPO GOD CARTEL that CCP has created by their game design. Yes, I guess I and most other players will sadly have to go to another game to look for good competetive play balance. It is not to be found in Eve. The Poker games here are all played with a "stacked" deck.
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.12.02 00:44:00 - [90] Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 02/12/2006 00:49:18 In almost every scenario you can think of ...T2 > T1 (similar ship types of course)... if you cannot afford to buy T2 and get war decced/attacked by a corp/alliance that owns BPO's for Vagabonds/Cerberus/etc you are dead ...no amount of skills, work put in, greater numbers or even logging off can save you .... People who have T2 ship BPO's (and some notable others like improved cloaks, cap rechargers, large T2 guns, BCS) can afford to go and and get killed over and over and over ... if you dont have a good T2 bpo you will be ground down. T2 never had enough BPO's released, and now it has reached the stage where the T2 BPO holders are so rich that they can "make an offer that cant be refused" and get a monopoly again .... i think that hundreds of all T2 bpo's should be released, it should be skills that limit T2 ship and mod use, not isk <tin foil hat time> Of course CCP may be making a packet out of it with people buying GTC's and selling ingame for isk so they can afford the T2 goodness, and so it is not in their interest to seed more as people will find that ratting for 2 days gets them that shiny ship if they were cheap enough .... </tin foil hat time> <edit> and for newer players, invention is too much of an uphill struggle ... who is going to do missions for months to get good enough standings to get even 100RP's a day .... it is far quicker to do security agent missions and buy from market the entry bar for invention is TOO HIGH, with the element of risk involved not to mention the amount of work, why would anyone bother their arse </edit>

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