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Eethrak	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Nybbas Sure I enjoy using it, but it was a bad move, maybe something like a warp to 5km or 7.5km, with warp to zero what is the point of having a industrial etc that is slow moving? there is no point. I totally agree. I'm a freighter pilot - I know how totally frustrating they are, but theres a reason they're that slow - its something to do with having nearly 7 figures of cargo capacity. I'm going to use it because its there, and having flown out today it makes freighter usage take half the time it used to, but thats not to say I think it should be there. With that said, instas were broken, and finding some mechanism that makes everyone ditch them was required. I just think that the solution shouldn't have been to negate a large chunk of the distinction between small fast ships and large lumbering slow ships.
Troy Knight	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:04:00 - [32] Originally by: Eethrak Originally by: Nybbas Sure I enjoy using it, but it was a bad move, maybe something like a warp to 5km or 7.5km, with warp to zero what is the point of having a industrial etc that is slow moving? there is no point. I totally agree. I'm a freighter pilot - I know how totally frustrating they are, but theres a reason they're that slow - its something to do with having nearly 7 figures of cargo capacity. I'm going to use it because its there, and having flown out today it makes freighter usage take half the time it used to, but thats not to say I think it should be there. With that said, instas were broken, and finding some mechanism that makes everyone ditch them was required. I just think that the solution shouldn't have been to negate a large chunk of the distinction between small fast ships and large lumbering slow ships. The distinction is in their slowness to move at sub-light speed. There shouldn't be a distinction on moving at warp and/or if they can come in close just because they're bigger then most ships.
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:09:00 - [33] I wanted to wait till I was able to test out Warp to 0km before I started to remove my BM's; had to make sure it worked. In 9/10 cases the new Warp to 0km is far better then my instas. Why the hell would I bother keeping them now! WTG CCP! You guys nailed this one 100%, consider your request for us to delete our Book Marks granted! ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild!
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:10:00 - [34] i love it :D ------ relaxed corp looking for members
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:13:00 - [35] <3 CCP for the 0km warp to :D Excellent! x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
Barwinius Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:24:00 - [36] /Signed
Karunel Nuevos Horizontes O X I D E	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:28:00 - [37] Quote: Sure I enjoy using it, but it was a bad move, maybe something like a warp to 5km or 7.5km, with warp to zero what is the point of having a industrial etc that is slow moving? there is no point. Nyb wins. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Draconia Blackheart Disciples of the Underverse	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:28:00 - [38] I for one, think is the greatest addition to EVE :) Time it takes my 900+ m/s Shuttle to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 200 m/sec Indy to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 74 m/sec Covetor to go 3 jumps and dock ALL THE SAME!! (besides the time it takes to warp, and thats seconds not minutes) Used to take over 15 minutes for my Indy to fillup from my Covetor out in a belt, warps to dock, 4 mins to dock, leave doc, jump back, 4 mins to get back to Covetor. NOW! Fill up..WTZ Dock!..Dock..Leave Dock..WTZ Gang Member!.. Round Trip..Less than a Minute! ROCK!! Courier Missions: Instead of sitting there bored off your skull you actually get to continually do something when hopping from station to station.. ---
Varheg Xan Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:45:00 - [39] I love warp to zero. My gate instas were deleted one second after confirming it worked.
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:46:00 - [40] long winded courier missiosn are a little less long winded These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Cuisinart Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:49:00 - [41] Thanks CCP, this was a good move. All the whiners will just have to work now instead of getting easy meat. Catch em on the otherside...
Stakhanov Gallente Acid Enema Of Doomed Gerbils	Posted - 2006.11.30 08:52:00 - [42] While speed differences in travel are mostly removed , ship agility is the new exposure indicator - and the MWD is now useful to get away from a camped gate before warping. Gone are the days of slamming the gate as a pod... Things are inverted now - people will expect gate camps on jump in , but bubbles are still there for the way out. Autopilot users die regardless , as always.
Niraco79 Gallente Hunters Agency	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:06:00 - [43] 2000 bookmarks already deleted, 800 waiting for my next login... clean database, lower transaction less lag..less lag....less lag. And yes i hunted 1 hour some ships yesterday and could not catch them (logofsky anyone?) but i still don`t miss instabookmarks. ________________ THE MEGA NOOB
Queen Hades	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:06:00 - [44] I like WTZ very much. Much less time wasted travelling (autopilot 4tl), much faster getting into the action. Thank you, CCP.
Vladimir Ilych Hidden Industrial Group	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:11:00 - [45] signed
Varis Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:12:00 - [46] i still hate them why do you think jita and most of the surrounding systems and other "trade hubs" have o much problems with queues? Because everyone and their dog will fly the many jump to get to the markets as its so easy. less difficulty in travelling -> more traffic jams. also its nearly eliminating the difference between small and large ships - makes their non-warp speed meaningless. I'd have been ok with a warp to 5 or something, but would prefer warp to 20 or something, and make it IMPOSSIBLE to get out of warp close to celestial objects (ie, doesn't matter where you make a bookmark, cannot exit warp if close than 20k )
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Troy Knight Originally by: Eethrak Originally by: Nybbas Sure I enjoy using it, but it was a bad move, maybe something like a warp to 5km or 7.5km, with warp to zero what is the point of having a industrial etc that is slow moving? there is no point. I totally agree. I'm a freighter pilot - I know how totally frustrating they are, but theres a reason they're that slow - its something to do with having nearly 7 figures of cargo capacity. I'm going to use it because its there, and having flown out today it makes freighter usage take half the time it used to, but thats not to say I think it should be there. With that said, instas were broken, and finding some mechanism that makes everyone ditch them was required. I just think that the solution shouldn't have been to negate a large chunk of the distinction between small fast ships and large lumbering slow ships. The distinction is in their slowness to move at sub-light speed. There shouldn't be a distinction on moving at warp and/or if they can come in close just because they're bigger then most ships. I've been of the opinion, and am still, that WTZ is a negative change to EVE. I want ships to have speed differentiation. It means there's actually a reason to fly a cruiser. It means there's a reason to fly a fast hauler (or blockade runner) rather than just stuff it with as many Cargo Expander IIs as you can. I want long travel routes to take a long time. Virtually all of the EVE economy is player driven. Thus the profitability of something is directly proportional to time and effort involved. I want markets to _de_ centralise. I think having everything on the market in The Forge be in Jita is really not a good thing. But have a look at the regional market some time. Fast travel forces more travel. Most combat in EVE, like it or not, is at gates or stations. I don't like getting pirated, no one does, but it's one of the factors that makes the game interesting. Likewise if I'm trying to chase a pirate, I'd rather not have the 'chase' defined by faster clicking on the insta, and locktimes on our ships. Instas were always broken gameplay. Recently I heard whining that people "couldn't" move around 0.0 without instas. It's entirely incorrect, I have been there, and done that, fueling 5 POS towers 10 jumps into 0.0, in a badger II. It's not that hard, you just have to chose a ship/fit where you're actually considering the speed of it. An afterburner/MWD IMO _shouldn't_ be a 'get out of bubble' module. It should be a general purpose one. shrug lost this argument, but I do hope that people will start to see the negative impact that warp to zero brings. Sadly I think not, since there's just far too many who've become utterly dependant on the crutch that is instas.
Arcane Hayter	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:15:00 - [48] I think warp to 0 is awesome. I'm new to Eve and had just started setting up instas in the lowsec systems near where my home base is. Everyone kept saying "don't use instas you're causing lag", but I couldn't help it - gatekampers FTL - plus I watched everyone else doing it. Thanks for warp to 0 CCP!
Teis Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:26:00 - [49] For ppl with a limited time to play EVE, warp to 0 is great! Don't have to spend time making all those boring BM's
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:31:00 - [50] Originally by: Draconia Blackheart I for one, think is the greatest addition to EVE :) Time it takes my 900+ m/s Shuttle to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 200 m/sec Indy to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 74 m/sec Covetor to go 3 jumps and dock ALL THE SAME!! (besides the time it takes to warp, and thats seconds not minutes) Used to take over 15 minutes for my Indy to fillup from my Covetor out in a belt, warps to dock, 4 mins to dock, leave doc, jump back, 4 mins to get back to Covetor. NOW! Fill up..WTZ Dock!..Dock..Leave Dock..WTZ Gang Member!.. Round Trip..Less than a Minute! ROCK!! Courier Missions: Instead of sitting there bored off your skull you actually get to continually do something when hopping from station to station.. thx for the great example why WTZ suck. ___________________ EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears no more skill needed for PvP - only skillpoints for Large Bubble and CovOps n00b-alts
Splokit	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:31:00 - [51] Best move ever, no more copying BMs for hours before joining the fun! No more Rclick Lag p&p lag But it seem it takes a lo0ng time for my P&P to open(3h and still not open)Maybe sometime this year it will, so i can be ready for EVE 07!!! happy newyear all :/
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:33:00 - [52] I <3 WTZ, however CCP would do well to differentiate warp speeds to bring travel times back into consideration. Not so much because I want longer travel times, but because these whiners who think a ship's speed across the galaxy should be determined by how long it takes to cross 15km at each gate do my head in. WTZ+Slow warp speeds=Best of all worlds ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Splokit	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:35:00 - [53] Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 30/11/2006 10:32:45 Originally by: Draconia Blackheart I for one, think is the greatest addition to EVE :) Time it takes my 900+ m/s Shuttle to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 200 m/sec Indy to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 74 m/sec Covetor to go 3 jumps and dock ALL THE SAME!! (besides the time it takes to warp, and thats seconds not minutes) Used to take over 15 minutes for my Indy to fillup from my Covetor out in a belt, warps to dock, 4 mins to dock, leave doc, jump back, 4 mins to get back to Covetor. NOW! Fill up..WTZ Dock!..Dock..Leave Dock..WTZ Gang Member!.. Round Trip..Less than a Minute! ROCK!! Courier Missions: Instead of sitting there bored off your skull you actually get to continually do something when hopping from station to station.. thx for the great example why WTZ suck. You sir can read and type, plz do in the right post/wehatewarpto0
Krxon Blade Caldari Bigg's Loyal Knight's	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:35:00 - [54] Signed. How we could ever live before that feature :) Ty Cpp and darn you Bcose you did not implement that before, hehe -- Bigg's Loyal Knight's
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:36:00 - [55] Originally by: Splokit Originally by: Draconia Blackheart I for one, think is the greatest addition to EVE :) Time it takes my 900+ m/s Shuttle to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 200 m/sec Indy to go 3 jumps and dock Time it takes my 74 m/sec Covetor to go 3 jumps and dock ALL THE SAME!! (besides the time it takes to warp, and thats seconds not minutes) Used to take over 15 minutes for my Indy to fillup from my Covetor out in a belt, warps to dock, 4 mins to dock, leave doc, jump back, 4 mins to get back to Covetor. NOW! Fill up..WTZ Dock!..Dock..Leave Dock..WTZ Gang Member!.. Round Trip..Less than a Minute! ROCK!! Courier Missions: Instead of sitting there bored off your skull you actually get to continually do something when hopping from station to station.. thx for the great example why WTZ suck. You sir can read and type, plz do in the right post/wehatewarpto0 i'm wondering why you didn't post this when some WTZ-fanboys posted in the "we hate WTZ" thread ___________________ EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears no more skill needed for PvP - only skillpoints for Large Bubble and CovOps n00b-alts
Varis Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:37:00 - [56] what would be perfect would be if the "warp speed" was a multiple of your actual speed. so the speed affecting modules (like overdrives, remember them?) or cargo expanders would make a difference. If a hauler sets up for speed (overdrives, nanos, mwd/ab) they should have an advantage over a hauler who fits maxed out cargo expanders - they should be able to make 2+ trips for every one by the maxed out bigger cargo hold. Also a battleship fitted with nano's overdrives, mwd etc, should get to the battlefield significantly faster (10-20 min) than the fully capable combat ship. If they can make this a reality with only changes to warp speeds, then i am 100% for it.
Varis Jericho Fraction	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:40:00 - [57] Originally by: Crumplecorn but because these whiners who think a ship's speed across the galaxy should be determined by how long it takes to cross 15km at each gate do my head in. its not the 15km thats the important bit. its that your setup and ship chiuce should effect how quickly you get to the destination. If i want to get stuff somewhere fast, use something smaller and faster. If i have a complete POS worth of minerals to move - should use a frieghter. That the freighter can now make the trip about the same time as a small speed fitted industrial is silly.
Lord WarATron Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:46:00 - [58] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 30/11/2006 10:47:29 Originally by: Varis That the freighter can now make the trip about the same time as a small speed fitted industrial is silly. You ever used a freightor? Time to move is the time it takes to align, the time in warp and the time to jump. Freightor pilots use instas anyway, I dont know a single freightor pilot that does not use instas. Warp to ) makes no difference in that case. Secondly, you really think that traveling 100au at 0.7au/sec in a freightor is the same as 3au a sec of a Industrial? 142 seconds in warp vs 33 seconds in a industral are the same?? You are aware that dozens of insta using freightors have been KILLED because of the long warp time, giving the hostiles time to get into position? --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Splokit	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:49:00 - [59] Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte i'm wondering why you didn't post this when some WTZ-fanboys posted in the "we hate WTZ" thread /Emote hates whiningpost so he avoids them as much as he can!
Zyrla Bladestorm Minmatar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:50:00 - [60] I love it, got to delete a few thousand BM's, which felt good :) . ----- It's great being Minmatar, ain't it? Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.

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