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Dairusire Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.09 12:59:37 - [1] - Quote I don't know if this question has been asked before, or lots. However the only forum posts I can find regarding this are from 2011, stating that there is roughly 445 Trillion Isk in eve as of Q4 2010... Now 5 years on (for the most part), I'm wondering what this figure is now, especially considering the continuing inflation of the market, and decreasing value of the isk. Cheers :)
Eternus8lux8lucis Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 416	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:08:41 - [2] - Quote Id love to know too, but I hardly doubt CCP will reveal such a figure. In this case the truth will hurt them more than help them. The idea of isk inflation and isk value will be a closely guarded secret. Now that being said maybe CCP will grace us with info but I wont hold my breath on it. Theres way to much isk in the economy and I think itll just get worse and worse without CCP being able to do much about it. Theyre trying but I think peoples greed and understanding of the game mechanics will prevent them from doing much if anything about it. People are by nature carebears. And want stability and growth in their wallets. Theyve tried making more sinks but I think itll never be enough as people will find ways around those sinks if not avoiding them entirely. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak. http://tinyurl.com/YarrFace
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1994	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:11:12 - [3] - Quote Eternus8lux8lucis wrote: Id love to know too, but I hardly doubt CCP will reveal such a figure. In this case the truth will hurt them more than help them. The idea of isk inflation and isk value will be a closely guarded secret. Now that being said maybe CCP will grace us with info but I wont hold my breath on it. Theres way to much isk in the economy and I think itll just get worse and worse without CCP being able to do much about it. Theyre trying but I think peoples greed and understanding of the game mechanics will prevent them from doing much if anything about it. People are by nature carebears. And want stability and growth in their wallets. Theyve tried making more sinks but I think itll never be enough as people will find ways around those sinks if not avoiding them entirely. They could probably say how much ISK there is but a CSM once mentioned CCP was unable to make a complete asset list of all the stuff people have in EVE. Something about the script taking more than 24 hours to run but downtime crashing it.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3479	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:29:12 - [4] - Quote Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks for the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC 4094	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:37:03 - [5] - Quote 56783756849785987057856867978590069759850795. I think. "I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting. Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
Hengle Teron Explosions Delivered with Love 54938	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:51:37 - [6] - Quote I think they have given the answer to this question in their Fanfest Eve Economics presentation.
Big Lynx 3188	Posted - 2015.07.09 14:55:13 - [7] - Quote About 4 Gorillions
Fatoria Hemah Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2015.07.09 16:18:47 - [8] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: About 4 Goonillions I corrected that for yo
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 3042	Posted - 2015.07.09 16:33:21 - [9] - Quote Dairusire wrote: I don't know if this question has been asked before, or lots. However the only forum posts I can find regarding this are from 2011, stating that there is roughly 445 Trillion Isk in eve as of Q4 2010... Now 5 years on (for the most part), I'm wondering what this figure is now, especially considering the continuing inflation of the market, and decreasing value of the isk. Cheers :) I'm not sure there is broad levels of inflation oaverall, it seems to be primarily confined to PLEX....which maybe a superior good for at least a subset of players. As to your overall question...wasn't it something like 1 trillion ISK/month entered the game, so we are about 60 months from the last economic report...so ballpark 60 trillion ISK? Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
Riot Girl You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack 3812	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:13:45 - [10] - Quote Dairusire wrote: continuing inflation of the market, and decreasing value of the isk. Are we actually talking about the market, or just the price of plex? Oh god.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22173	Posted - 2015.07.09 18:21:03 - [11] - Quote Too much. The real question is: How much ISK is tied up in unsubbed accounts that didnt give me their stuff? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1995	Posted - 2015.07.09 19:12:05 - [12] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Too much. The real question is: How much ISK is tied up in unsubbed accounts that didnt give me their stuff? There is also the masses of ISK in still subbed account that will never get spent because there is just too damn much but those are of course less important since they don't apply to your rule...
GordonO Wide Open Throttle 133	Posted - 2015.07.09 20:22:25 - [13] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? . Really.. so 5 years ago a drake hull cost round 20mil, it now costs double.. I would call that inflation. I think he was just curious.. but I guess this is what game of trolls is all about ... What next ??
Lulu Lunette Custodes Olim United Systems of Aridia 51	Posted - 2015.07.09 20:40:50 - [14] - Quote How about everyone just put their personal wallet amount here and then you add it all up? I'll start. 146,164,260.89 ISK @lunettelulu7
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 38645	Posted - 2015.07.09 23:20:07 - [15] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: 146,164,260.89 ISK Squaring that would probably still be way off. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 2260	Posted - 2015.07.10 00:28:15 - [16] - Quote GordonO wrote: Really.. so 5 years ago a drake hull cost round 20mil, it now costs double.. I would call that inflation. I think he was just curious.. but I guess this is what game of trolls is all about Or possibly changes in manufacturing requirements along with industrialists demanding a higher wage for their time. Not all price changes are inflation. And the mineral price index changes can be traced to direct supply and demand changes.
Webvan All Kill No Skill 10816	Posted - 2015.07.10 01:19:03 - [17] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: They could probably say how much ISK there is but a CSM once mentioned CCP was unable to make a complete asset list of all the stuff people have in EVE. Something about the script taking more than 24 hours to run but downtime crashing it. They would just query a mirror. How much? makes a fist and sticks out thumb and pinky to length and rotates wrist back and forth
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1503	Posted - 2015.07.10 10:48:08 - [18] - Quote Blimey! Hope that if they try to answer this, it's done on a mirror Op : liquid ISK total on active accounts or all accounts (inactive as well?) Seems pointless to know really. What did knowing this do to you last time you had the data? Me, nothing at all. There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6352	Posted - 2015.07.10 10:52:48 - [19] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. There's a better way than this. 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Sell the skillbooks in Jita for slightly less than NPC price (or slightly more if you can get them to sell near instantly). Now for every skillbook you buy from the NPC market you are chucking away someone else's isk as well as your own. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3487	Posted - 2015.07.10 13:42:35 - [20] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. There's a better way than this. 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Sell the skillbooks in Jita for slightly less than NPC price (or slightly more if you can get them to sell near instantly). Now for every skillbook you buy from the NPC market you are chucking away someone else's isk as well as your own. If I sell the skillbooks, then the person who buys them will not, themselves, buy them from the NPCs. The result: No more ISK is removed from the game than if I had done nothing. (Except for taxes and broker fees.) Nope, you must destroy them. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Delt0r Garsk Shits N Giggles 414	Posted - 2015.07.10 15:24:16 - [21] - Quote Hoarding will also be a fairly significant isk sink. I mean incursion runners don't really need all that isk, when they never spend it on anything. And i know a few of them, other than grinding isk that they never spend, they almost also never lose ships. Overall it really means total isk in the game is a bit meaningless. Unsubs, assets all over the place doing nothing etc... A few parts of the economy being fixed (NPC sell orders). Death and Glory! Well fun is also good.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6352	Posted - 2015.07.10 15:59:47 - [22] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. There's a better way than this. 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Sell the skillbooks in Jita for slightly less than NPC price (or slightly more if you can get them to sell near instantly). Now for every skillbook you buy from the NPC market you are chucking away someone else's isk as well as your own. If I sell the skillbooks, then the person who buys them will not, themselves, buy them from the NPCs. The result: No more ISK is removed from the game than if I had done nothing. (Except for taxes and broker fees.) Nope, you must destroy them. True, but if someone who usually buys from NPCs for sale sees a load of skillbooks for a cheaper price they'll buy them quick. Multiply this by number of traders that will do the same and you'll end up with multiple people overstocking on them. All the while there's still traders coming in seeing the cheap stock and buying in. At the very least you'd be compacting years of purchases into a short time period and extracting trade fees from multiple traders. I've dabble in this before, but I'll consider trialling this at some point soon. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 796	Posted - 2015.07.10 17:31:25 - [23] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. There's a better way than this. 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Sell the skillbooks in Jita for slightly less than NPC price (or slightly more if you can get them to sell near instantly). Now for every skillbook you buy from the NPC market you are chucking away someone else's isk as well as your own. If I sell the skillbooks, then the person who buys them will not, themselves, buy them from the NPCs. The result: No more ISK is removed from the game than if I had done nothing. (Except for taxes and broker fees.) Nope, you must destroy them. Where do you get the skillbooks from? My nose tickles. haaa..... HAAAAAA...... HHHAAAAAAAAAA
Kiandoshia Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2304	Posted - 2015.07.10 17:52:35 - [24] - Quote Correct me if I am wrong but if there were any big inflation, wouldn't everything become more expensive? Market stuff has been pretty stable for as long as I can remember, with a couple of change based (patches changing items or drop rates or mineral yield) fluctuations every now and again. The only thing that keeps getting more and more expensive are PLEXes, so is this like a semi inflation?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 1277	Posted - 2015.07.10 18:10:52 - [25] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. the thing that amazes me is the way players seem to continuously increase production causing stable prices or even deflation for most goods. the biggest bits of inflation seem to come from CCP's balancing hand, and are usually rather short lived. @ChainsawPlankto
GankYou 4B0082 Research 759	Posted - 2015.07.10 18:48:27 - [26] - Quote Should be a few quadrillion - http://i.imgur.com/MBgUyhE.png http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65749/1/production_2013.png - 1106 trillion in products manufactured in the year 2013-YC115 alone. ...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤ [WTS] ME10 / TE20 BPOs from Battleships/Cruisers to Fighters, Carriers, Triage/Siege, XL modules & Cap Components
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 320	Posted - 2015.07.10 22:07:29 - [27] - Quote GankYou wrote: Should be a few quadrillion - http://i.imgur.com/MBgUyhE.png http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65749/1/production_2013.png - 1106 trillion in products manufactured in the year 2013-YC115 alone. Eve economy is more effective and efficient than Earth ones. Eve players should start giving Economy classes IRL. GY as usual very interesting charts
Dairusire ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans 0	Posted - 2015.07.11 14:29:18 - [28] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Inflation? What inflation? http://marketsforisk.blogspot.com/2014/04/inflation-in-eve-online.html The price indices have been remarkably stable for nearly a decade. Really the only thing that is inflating is the PLEX. Is this a PLEX whine thread? If you feel there is too much ISK in the game, here is what you do: 1) Buy skillbooks from the NPCs. That removes ISK from the game. 2) Jet the skillbooks. 3) Shoot the can. 4) Repeat until you have removed the desired amount of ISK from the game. No, not a whine thread at all. Just curious and wanting to know how much isk is in the game. @commander Spurty Correct, I'm simply wanting to know the total amount of Liquid isk in game, including assets. Does seem pointless to know, but it's random knowledge I'd like to know :P
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1504	Posted - 2015.07.12 23:21:21 - [29] - Quote lol ok. At least you are honest :D There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie The Scope Gallente Federation 1847	Posted - 2015.07.13 06:36:09 - [30] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Too much. The real question is: How much ISK is tied up in unsubbed accounts that didnt give me their stuff? It bring a tear to my eye just to think about it. Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information. BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!

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