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Kestral Anneto The Founding Four Fidelas Constans 85	Posted - 2015.07.14 18:06:02 - [1] - Quote Ok, so FozzieSov has hit, and i'm ok with it, not overjoyed, its 'ok'. The real question is, whats the next thing? If I could decide, it would have to be a mining revamp. Mining makes EvE turn round, without the minerals that are mined, we wouldn't have the ships to die gloriously and as a miner / maker, i feel that mining has been neglected. There have been multple great idea suggested in the F&I area, from comet mining to capital mining ships (I support both). CCP did a good job on industry, but left the job half finished by not touching mining, so lets have a facelift.
Major Triscuits Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.07.14 18:12:05 - [2] - Quote Nah. #gankminers
Kestral Anneto The Founding Four Fidelas Constans 85	Posted - 2015.07.14 18:15:30 - [3] - Quote Major Triscuits wrote: Nah. #gankminers each to his own, but where do your replacement ships come from i wonder? even if it drops as loot, ore still has to be mined
Kiddoomer ScrewWork Inc. 73	Posted - 2015.07.14 18:34:26 - [4] - Quote I agree 100% with that, but when I noticed than the comet idea was directly asked to CCP devs at the last fanfest, and the response was "maybe soon". I really wonder when it will be after I remember they said that the Rorqual needed to be redone asap. Maybe now that FozzieSov is here, devs will be able to focus on other aspects of the game that hasn't been ~~nerfed~~ touched recently. A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
Abrazzar Vardaugas Family 6201	Posted - 2015.07.14 18:56:25 - [5] - Quote I don't even care anymore. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 934	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:02:24 - [6] - Quote I don't see the need for a change. When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf. TSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8762	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:17:02 - [7] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf. Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable. Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things. All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Vipre Morte Team JK 107	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:20:21 - [8] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf. Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable. Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things. All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal. Mr Epeen I completely agree. I feel I should get that comment in before the haters / gankers / James-315-ers --- all of whom are the loudest on the subject of mining --- chime in with their usual garbage.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1891	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:25:28 - [9] - Quote Always believed that miners and industrials need the ability to stand and fight. Dock or die, quickly grows boring and tedious. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Major Triscuits Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:30:05 - [10] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Always believed that miners and industrials need the ability to stand and fight. Dock or die, quickly grows boring and tedious. Much like staring at stationary digital rocks all day.

DaReaper Net 7 2364	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:38:59 - [11] - Quote points at his signature that would be a start. In addition: moon goo becoming T2 moon ore and mined by players, not a pos in passive mode. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11098	Posted - 2015.07.14 19:54:28 - [12] - Quote I too would like to see bigger mining hull... explosions. On the scale of stations. And I do mean just the explosion. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12 tap-tap to skip through music playlist.
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 13642	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:02:28 - [13] - Quote If you change mining to make it less mind-numbingly boring, the white knights will complain without cease. Mining is apparently "fun" for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with mining, so if you actually make them play the game such people's howling would throw the earth off it's axis. If you don't change mining, it will still have an extremely high turnaround rate for people who engage in it, since it is literally less engaging than most Facebook games. Personally, I don't care either way, but I will point that there would likely be a LOT less bots in this game if mining actually involved doing something. Also, nerf sentry drones. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Jenshae Chiroptera 1891	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:18:24 - [14] - Quote Major Triscuits wrote: Much like staring at stationary digital rocks all day. Much like staring at a stationary digital gate when camping all day. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids . High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
Angelica Dreamstar Miner's House of ill repute 937	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:18:52 - [15] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf. Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable. Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things. All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal. Mr Epeen Oh but that's not what I meant! I meant that people use skiffs and procurers, playing afk, instead of covetors and playing atk! I can consider intentionally lowering your yield as crippling your gameplay. This wasn't about "mining" per se, hey, I'm was mining just an hour ago! And changing mining to something purely atk will not only create an outrage, it's also a bad idea! TSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 5080	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:27:13 - [16] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Always believed that miners and industrials need the ability to stand and fight. Dock or die, quickly grows boring and tedious. Strip miners causing damage to hulls. They are lasers after all. The Skiff has a neat drone bonus, but it isn't enough alone.
Neuntausend Rens Nursing Home 183	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:47:39 - [17] - Quote Sounds good. Make it involve Entosis Llinks and Frigates somehow.
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1500	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:50:27 - [18] - Quote Remove moon mining from alliance and pos. Rorquals now required to moon mine. Moon mining now an active requirement (individuals can do it), or some variation. Revamp the rorqual to survive roaming gangs or possibly reinforce itself. Pieces of moon falls off rorqual for mining fleet to eat. Possible rorqual shield while moon mining to protect fleet. There are quite a few ideas on how to revamp mining. Yaay!!!!
Crest Zah Donartal Bluenose Corporation 522	Posted - 2015.07.14 20:56:37 - [19] - Quote No no i will not cripple my gameplay, i go not start a career as warrior. I'm just a warmonger. You need a gun? ...no problems. Hehe.
Maldiro Selkurk CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X 267	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:03:42 - [20] - Quote in b4 lock: Since your post amounts to nothing more than 'see other threads' im expecting this thread to be locked. On the off chance the forum mods are taking a snooze and this thread actually stays open the Epic god-mode strip entire solar systems clean in one cycle 50 strip mining laser Rorqual will only do one thing destroy the already dismal ISK values of ore / minerals. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.

Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1509	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:03:44 - [21] - Quote All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. You do this, you get 110% yield or some obvious reward. There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1509	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:03:44 - [22] - Quote All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. You do this, you get 110% yield or some obvious reward. There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11098	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:11:34 - [23] - Quote Commander Spurty wrote: All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. You do this, you get 110% yield or some obvious reward. This is truly where they should of stuck that stupid mini-game rather than onto exploration. Win and you get 100% yield, loose and all your modules burn out. There was no afk in exploration, the mini-game had no true purpose, unlike as it should have been shoved onto miners for that simple fact. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12 tap-tap to skip through music playlist.
Kiddoomer ScrewWork Inc. 73	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:13:19 - [24] - Quote Commander Spurty wrote: All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. You do this, you get 110% yield or some obvious reward. This is a idea that is around since mining exists I think, lot of propositions have been made, but it's really hard to avoid the boring/tedious mini-game or something that can be easily multiboxed. The comet mining is the best for now about that IMO. A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 1501	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:17:10 - [25] - Quote Kiddoomer wrote: Commander Spurty wrote: All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. You do this, you get 110% yield or some obvious reward. This is a idea that is around since mining exists I think, lot of propositions have been made, but it's really hard to avoid the boring/tedious mini-game or something that can be easily multiboxed. The comet mining is the best for now about that IMO. Well you can simply have a mini game where if you win, you get the higher version of ore (dense or the higher end ice version). You'd remove the need for various types of veldspar, and would simply have the mini game identify higher densities in the roid, if you win it, it's yours. The issue here is... It's another mini game. I like comet mining if they can implement it. Yaay!!!!
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3508	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:29:16 - [26] - Quote Webvan wrote: [quote=Commander Spurty]All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. Odd, when I mine, I find it virtually impossible to go AFK and still get any reasonable yield. My miners cycle every 90+ seconds, and every cycle there is a good chance the roids will pop. To avoid wasting part of a cycle, I tend to short-cycle them at about 60 seconds. I fly two miners and an Orca. So, once a minute, I cycle miners, restart on new roids as needed, target more roids (to be ready for the next cycle), and move ore to the Orca. Then I switch to the other miner and do it all over again. Next, I switch to the Orca and move the ore to the various holds. Once I'm all done with that, there are not that many seconds left before the next cycle. Hardly time to get up and do anything. If I go AFK for more than 60 seconds, the roids pop and I get no more ore. You spend more time doing nothing on your average gate camp, or even while in warp during a roam. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Kiddoomer ScrewWork Inc. 73	Posted - 2015.07.14 21:56:08 - [27] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Webvan wrote: [quote=Commander Spurty]All I want to see added to mining is a reason to sit at the keyboard. Make people have to 'do something', but make it optional. Odd, when I mine, I find it virtually impossible to go AFK and still get any reasonable yield. My miners cycle every 90+ seconds, and every cycle there is a good chance the roids will pop. To avoid wasting part of a cycle, I tend to short-cycle them at about 60 seconds. I fly two miners and an Orca. So, once a minute, I cycle miners, restart on new roids as needed, target more roids (to be ready for the next cycle), and move ore to the Orca. Then I switch to the other miner and do it all over again. Next, I switch to the Orca and move the ore to the various holds. Once I'm all done with that, there are not that many seconds left before the next cycle. Hardly time to get up and do anything. If I go AFK for more than 60 seconds, the roids pop and I get no more ore. You spend more time doing nothing on your average gate camp, or even while in warp during a roam. Multi box doesn't count :P A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11098	Posted - 2015.07.14 22:08:07 - [28] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Webvan wrote: This is truly where they should of stuck that stupid mini-game rather than onto exploration. Win and you get 100% yield, lose and all your fittings burn out. There was no afk in exploration, the mini-game had no true purpose, unlike how it should have been shoved onto miners for that simple fact. Odd, when I mine, I find it virtually impossible to go AFK and still get any reasonable yield. My miners cycle every 90+ seconds, and every cycle there is a good chance the roids will pop. To avoid wasting part of a cycle, I tend to short-cycle them at about 60 seconds. I fly two miners and an Orca. So, once a minute, I cycle miners, restart on new roids as needed, target more roids (to be ready for the next cycle), and move ore to the Orca. Then I switch to the other miner and do it all over again. Next, I switch to the Orca and move the ore to the various holds. Once I'm all done with that, there are not that many seconds left before the next cycle. Hardly time to get up and do anything. If I go AFK for more than 60 seconds, the roids pop and I get no more ore. You spend more time doing nothing on your average gate camp, or even while in warp during a roam. Requires no real thinking. You can be plugged into a bot just the same. I would think miners would embrace such a mini-game, to kill botter yields. Though I see how it would be an irritation for a one-man mining fleet, but still. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12 tap-tap to skip through music playlist.
Frantix Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.07.14 22:20:57 - [29] - Quote I wouldn't mind seeing capital mining ships with some sort of 10/20/30/60min siege/triage module. Would fit nicely in the risk reward kinda gameplay. You wanna mine a lot? Better make sure you're ready to defend your mining ops..
Lan Wang V I R I I 1010	Posted - 2015.07.14 22:25:25 - [30] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: When people intentionally cripple their own gameplay, the last thing such gameplay needs is a buff or a nerf. Way back before the ice change, I made a miner and spent quite a few hours in the fields. I didn't find it in any way crippling. I actually found it quite enjoyable. Chitchatting with the other regulars. People not in the same corp helping out with boosts. Not having to constantly be scanning thanks to the other locals keeping an eye on things. All in all, probably the most time I've spent having fun with complete strangers in my eight years of playing this game. Which is likely why most 'elites' frown on the profession. It just doesn't sit right with them that random people should get along and cooperate for a common goal. Mr Epeen i actually bought a mining char once, zomg what a waste of isk the most boring thing i could ever think of, it was a terrible experience i actually wanted to shoot it with my main to bring a bit of enjoyment into my life but they were both on the same account so i was screwed. i even joined a pirate corp and actually started mining in lowsec, i felt sick and embarrased so i sold it EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design



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