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Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 18:24:00 - [121] Sure thing. Call your bank, say you want a "Charge Back" and state the reason of "Service Not Provided" They are charging you for a service they are not willing or able to provide. Its a type of fraud, and you will get your money back and more than 4 or 5 of these gets an investigation from the Merchant Services group of the credit card company. They can get their ability to process and accept Credit Cards pulled over it. Originally by: John Salvage my card was already charged for $10... I want my money back... and then some for pain and suffering , please!
Karen Dark	Posted - 2006.12.02 18:30:00 - [122] I think that Jalipo underestimated the size of the fan base that EVE has. I'm not making excuses for them I think they suck as well and wish they would go back to the old way that wasnt broke. Hopefully CCP will put up the missed matches so we can download and watch them.
Trey Pator	Posted - 2006.12.02 18:35:00 - [123] Originally by: Spike Spegel The roof the roof the roof is on fire The roof the roof the roof is on fire The roof the roof the roof is on fire We don't need no water let the mo***er burn Burn mo**er burn.... Hee-haw burn mother***er burn!
Xenny Lee Minmatar The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:01:00 - [124] To be fair... the ammount of people watching it today>>>>>>>>>the ammount of people watching it yesterday... Was good while it lasted but for last hour or so been dead =( But seeing how many registered accounts they now have... would it have been that hard to get a decent contract that can feed 30+ thou people even at just the low quality.
nickky01 Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:05:00 - [125] pathetic -------------------------- this is my main :(
Lorieen	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:06:00 - [126] When it comes to watching an EvE Tournament I'm so glad they decided to make us beta testers instead of using a proven format. Yesterday was 10 sec then buffer then 10 sec then buffer but today was much better cause they save up all that bandwith over time and give you feeds at 30 minute increments. 30 mins work then 30 minutes not working. Plz Plz bring back last yrs feeds.
nickky01 Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:07:00 - [127] Originally by: 4P's If they don't get resolved then we are ready to hook the EVE TV stream directly onto the net in the same manner as before cause we want you to enjoy watching this. We have put a lot of effort into the broadcast and the last thing we want is for the stream to not work. well? -------------------------- this is my main :(
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:16:00 - [128] Edited by: Montaire on 02/12/2006 19:16:12 Originally by: nickky01 Originally by: 4P's If they don't get resolved then we are ready to hook the EVE TV stream directly onto the net in the same manner as before cause we want you to enjoy watching this. We have put a lot of effort into the broadcast and the last thing we want is for the stream to not work. well? They have made their choice. Jalipo > Us.
Karnov Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:17:00 - [129] Managed to get 1 minute of feed so far today, always buffering doesn't get past 0%... Please sort something out that WORKS!
BillyBong2 Amarr Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:18:00 - [130] I said it on page 2. The demand is much higher today and they were destined to fail. Fail they did! _______________________________________________

Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:21:00 - [131] Originally by: BillyBong2 I said it on page 2. The demand is much higher today and they were destined to fail. Fail they did! They werent "Destined" for anything. They CHOSE this. They had the option for direct feed, 4p said as much. This was an attempt to monetise the stream, and they have made that choice . It is this way because they chose it to be this way.
Luna Negra FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:22:00 - [132] And it dropped again... Buffering 0% This must be a joke... Gravity you win again!
DiNoer Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:24:00 - [133] Originally by: Spike Spegel EVETV MHWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HEHAHEHAEHAHEHEAHEHAEHAHEHAEHHAA THIHIHIHIHIHIIHIHHIHIHIHIIHIHIII ROFLHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA QFT thehe La prospTritT de l'Gme libre La prospTritT de la fTdTration
Matrix Aran Legio Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:26:00 - [134] Thank god for a proper stream now. it may be choppy it may only be a backup stream but I thank you ---- Originally by: Wrangler It's a neuralizer.
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:27:00 - [135] These new guys are idiots, they make you pay to get a "better" view, I have talked to many people and they have said that after they have paid for the credits, all they get is buffer, buffer, video has stopped. Oh wait thats exactly what I am getting without paying them anything. This is the 5th time today I have tried this jalip crap. What ever I say is my own views and not of my corp.
Kenshin Ender FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:28:00 - [136] Edited by: Kenshin Ender on 02/12/2006 19:28:13 To the genious behind jalipo idea, i salute you. There havent been single thing in EVE history where EVERYONE agreed upon till now. After achieving this marvelous thing can you pls give us back our direct feeds? Thnx
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:28:00 - [137] Sorry to say but honestly just drop the whole thing for now. Whats the point of having it when it just keeps falling on its azz? Not screaming that CCP sucks its just unfortunate this didnt work out but having a half-functioning (if that) service is just causing dispair atm. Regards, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
PR3VIOUS Caldari The Flying Daggers Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:31:00 - [138] Why doesn't CCP go for a hybride solution? The commercial path they tried clearly isn't capable of dealing with the huge demands, but shutting it down won't be fair to all the people who paid Jalipo. What would be nice to see is the previous ASX streams next to the Jalipo sollution. That way the pressure is taken away from Jalipo and is hopefully enough to give the paid customers what they should get. And for the record: me not liking flash sollution. Please please stop working with Jalipo as long as the only broadcast technique is Flash. It's nice for short things, you can even use it for RIA toys, but NOT for streaming stuff. It's not made for it and shouldn't be used for it! Use the right tool! -- PR3VIOUS The Flying Daggers Corp
Tehel Necrona Minmatar Black Omega Security The OSS	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:31:00 - [139] Originally by: Montaire Sure thing. Call your bank, say you want a "Charge Back" and state the reason of "Service Not Provided" They are charging you for a service they are not willing or able to provide. Its a type of fraud, and you will get your money back and more than 4 or 5 of these gets an investigation from the Merchant Services group of the credit card company. They can get their ability to process and accept Credit Cards pulled over it. Originally by: John Salvage my card was already charged for $10... I want my money back... and then some for pain and suffering , please! I think i'll give it a go, try and get my money back, but i just read their terms and conditions.... 8. Refund Policy Save to the extent that Jalipo is required to give a refund by any applicable legislation or other applicable law in any jurisdiction, you will not be entitled to a refund of the price paid for any Jalipo credits purchased by you. Refunds may be offered by Jalipo in its sole discretion including by way of example where a refund is offered by the rights holder in respect of a particular item of Content or in other exceptional circumstances such as the cancellation of an event. Refunds are not offered for any issues relating to video quality and reliability. even if i don't get my money back, at least it will cause jalipo some grief.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:31:00 - [140] Originally by: Lowa Sorry to say but honestly just drop the whole thing for now. Whats the point of having it when it just keeps falling on its azz? Not screaming that CCP sucks its just unfortunate this didnt work out but having a half-functioning (if that) service is just causing dispair atm. Regards, Lowa Lowa, This is their choice , they have options and they have chosen this one. Things are the way they are right now because CCP has made their choice .

Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:34:00 - [141] I think i'll give it a go, try and get my money back, but i just read their terms and conditions.... 8. Refund Policy Save to the extent that Jalipo is required to give a refund by any applicable legislation or other applicable law in any jurisdiction, you will not be entitled to a refund of the price paid for any Jalipo credits purchased by you. Refunds may be offered by Jalipo in its sole discretion including by way of example where a refund is offered by the rights holder in respect of a particular item of Content or in other exceptional circumstances such as the cancellation of an event. Refunds are not offered for any issues relating to video quality and reliability. even if i don't get my money back, at least it will cause jalipo some grief. Doesnt matter. They sign a Merchant Agreement with they start to accept credit cards. It binds them. In this case they are charging for a serviec they cannot or will not provide. If they dont give you the money back its fraud. If they persist in taking money knowing they cannot provide the service its larceny (theft). Banks have entire departments built around investigating this, I know because I used to work for such a department.
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:34:00 - [142] Edited by: Darius Shakor on 02/12/2006 19:34:16 Mon, are you just going to keep spamming that choice garbage in every single thread? You are upset. I am upset. Wait for the DVD. And for the record I don't disagree with you either but god, get off your soap box already it's getting silly and you look like a kid. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3
Jenina Hawke Minmatar Core Domination	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:34:00 - [143] I did not think I would enjoy watching the tournament. And... well... now I don't have to think about it, because the option to watch is no longer there. It sucks...
Scifa Caldari Fat Bold Men	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:37:00 - [144] Originally by: Montaire Originally by: Lowa Sorry to say but honestly just drop the whole thing for now. Whats the point of having it when it just keeps falling on its azz? Not screaming that CCP sucks its just unfortunate this didnt work out but having a half-functioning (if that) service is just causing dispair atm. Regards, Lowa Lowa, This is their choice , they have options and they have chosen this one. Things are the way they are right now because CCP has made their choice . There is a reason for the choice.
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:38:00 - [145] Originally by: PR3VIOUS Why doesn't CCP go for a hybride solution? The commercial path they tried clearly isn't capable of dealing with the huge demands, but shutting it down won't be fair to all the people who paid Jalipo. What would be nice to see is the previous ASX streams next to the Jalipo sollution. That way the pressure is taken away from Jalipo and is hopefully enough to give the paid customers what they should get. And for the record: me not liking flash sollution. Please please stop working with Jalipo as long as the only broadcast technique is Flash. It's nice for short things, you can even use it for RIA toys, but NOT for streaming stuff. It's not made for it and shouldn't be used for it! Use the right tool! If I had paid money for this service and they treated me like they are treating us now, I would not give them a second, I would just call my credit card company and report it as fraud or tell em to cancel the charge. What ever I say is my own views and not of my corp.
DiNoer Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:39:00 - [146] Originally by: Scifa Originally by: Montaire Originally by: Lowa Sorry to say but honestly just drop the whole thing for now. Whats the point of having it when it just keeps falling on its azz? Not screaming that CCP sucks its just unfortunate this didnt work out but having a half-functioning (if that) service is just causing dispair atm. Regards, Lowa Lowa, This is their choice , they have options and they have chosen this one. Things are the way they are right now because CCP has made their choice . There is a reason for the choice. Yeah the red pill sux La prospTritT de l'Gme libre La prospTritT de la fTdTration
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:42:00 - [147] Originally by: Scifa There is a reason for the choice. Indeed. And the reason Im repeating it is that its the truth. People need to undestand things are as they are right now at ccp's chosing. They have options. This is the one they picked.
Tvaishk Suzuki	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:49:00 - [148] I'm sorry Eve Tv and ccp but this is just getting stuiped and in my opinion the AllianceTournament has failed the players its ment to be here for. You said that you had a plan B if things mucked up again, but they have and nothing has happen. So I'm just fed up now and am just going to give up watching I'm afrade, theres no point realy as you can only watch a blank screen so long. (I might try and watch the final but I don't have much hope that I'll be able to realy....) I hope you learn for next time I realy do, bad show very bad show.
Angeldust Omega Fleet Enterprises Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 19:53:00 - [149] Lots of preparation went into this by the participants, the whole EvE-TV crew and ccp. Its a great idea, and could incredibly boost everyone's love for a great game, rewarding all that preparation time and players flying to iceland just for it. Instead, Jalipo ruins it for everyone, creating anger and frustration. 4P'S its time to take the matter away from that ripoff company that lets ppl buy credits and then doesnt even offer the high quality stream anymore (or any stream for that matter). Dont let all that dedication be wasted.
xeno calligan	Posted - 2006.12.02 20:04:00 - [150] A direct stream is available at: http://mfile.akamai.com/19450/live/reflector:59902.asx?bkup=24170



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