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Deitre Cibrus Cereal Killerz The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.12.02 01:49:00 - [1] ideas?! more cpu pg ... never flew deimos before as price seemed too high, but now ive got some isk together and it's been given a boost can someone help? ----------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread. What is this sig missing?
Epsillon Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.02 01:54:00 - [2] Still a terrible ship, very susceptible to nos. Get a Myrmidon for about 1/4th of the price. _____________________________________________
Deitre Cibrus Cereal Killerz The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.12.02 01:57:00 - [3] Only got Battlecruisers 3, still worth it? ----------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread. What is this sig missing?
Epsillon Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.02 02:13:00 - [4] It was only a suggestion for a different purchase, feel free to chose something you would be more effective in. Deimos is too slow, too heavy, too cap dependent to be worth the 180 or so million ISK. You would be better with a battleship, at least you can insure it. If you really want to fly a HAC save more and buy an Ishtar. _____________________________________________
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.02 03:40:00 - [5] It's still pretty crap, but your best bet is to stack powergrid mods on it, fit with a 1600 tungsten, small rep and a med injector with 400's (less boost overall than 800 but more often) - put a energized reactive II on it and tank it passively. Still not very strong, but less so than the Ion II unplated setups which just dont have the HP now...
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.02 04:28:00 - [6] a brutix with setup like- 5x electron t2 2x med nos mwd web scram med cap booster + 800 charges 1 med rep t2 1 small rep t2 3x t2 active armour hardners 5x valkyrie drones i flew this pre kali and could beat most hacs 1v1 incl deimos and vagabond (has to get close enough obviously). i wouldnt engage an ishtar tho. post kali it gets much more hp + agiloity boost of 20% (wtf) so i imagine itspowered now. tho as it costs much less than a deimos, firepower is pretty much as good, tanking is better, agility is the same or better, hp are much better its all round better. which is a shame as i like the deimos. i have a faction pimped deimos ive been waiting to use. im tempted to strip the deimos and fit the stuff on a brutix. train bc to lvl 4 tho will make them much better for you andf wont take much time. *Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar*
FraXy 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.02 05:33:00 - [7] Edited by: FraXy on 02/12/2006 05:34:46 After some heavy losses lately i switched down to a Thorax and had 2 success kills in it. 5x Heavy Electron II Y-T8 Mwd, Fleeting 20k, X5 Webber Medium T2 Repper, Emergency DCU, 2x Magnetic Stab II`s, 800mm Crystalline Dronebay - 5x Medium T2 Drones Does 480-550 DPS depending on what kind of drones. Has taken a Muninn down solo, poorly fitted one, but still. Second was Thorax (me), Lachesis vs Deimos, Cyclone. Cyclone was only ship that survived the massacre. And the Lachesis didn`t have chance to dampen their lock gone so it was a head-on fight. About 15-20 mill loss per ship and it packs quite the punch. This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
Deitre Cibrus Cereal Killerz The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.12.02 13:59:00 - [8] Deimos setups please:( ----------- Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread. What is this sig missing?
LWMaverick Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.02 14:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Deimos setups please:( 5 med electrons small nosf 10mn mwd 7.5/20k scrambler Med cap injector Med rep Dcu eanm MFS x 2 5 x valks (all t2/best named/faction) /Mav <3
Glassback M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.02 15:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Deimos setups please:( 5xHeavy Neutrons T2 MWD, Web, 20km Scram 3xMagStab II's, Med Rep II, Explosive Hard II, Grid thingy. G. I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about.
ThunderGodThor KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.02 16:38:00 - [11] Read this thread. Its now even worse off in kali. It will in great detail tell you whats wrong. Personally i think the deimos will make a great pve ship now as it cant do any thing else.
Nagissa Kaworu Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:41:00 - [12] Edited by: Nagissa Kaworu on 04/12/2006 23:42:01 I run: 5x Ion II (void, null, antimatter) 1x (named) MWD, 1x X5 web, 1x Cap recharger 1x MAR II, 1x EANM II, 1x DC, 2x Mag stab II, 1x Explosive harderner II 5x Hammerhead II drones. I dont use a scrambler cause there is always someone else who scrambles. All i can say is i love my Deimos it might not be the best HAC out there but it looks awesome and deals tons of damage its like having a sledge hammer in your gang Its not always about flying the best ship out there, the deimos has flaws but **** it, its an awesome ship and i like it. Nag.
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:47:00 - [13] 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus.
LWMaverick Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.04 23:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Breed Love 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus. <3
Necromancer D Pirates of Destruction Union	Posted - 2006.12.24 03:46:00 - [15] Originally by: LWMaverick Originally by: Breed Love 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus.
Gilail	Posted - 2006.12.30 02:25:00 - [16] Edited by: Gilail on 30/12/2006 02:33:56 Tbh, I dont know why everyone keeps whining. First of all, the main role of the deimos seems to be dealing damage and for that it performs very good. As with any other ship, awsome tank plus awsome damage is impossible. For me I found 2 fittings that seem to work pretty damn good: High Damage 4 x t2 neutron (void, null, antimatter) 1 x t2 electron 1 x small nos MWD small cap booster (100 charges) web/scram (for solo fit scram of course) t2 rep / corpum-a type repper (yeah expensive but its worth it! reason is in the rigs) RCU 400mm rolled tung plate DCU/EANM 2 x mag stab II auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump I get 11.7 dmg mod (only HAC lvl3 atm) with about 3sec ROF for the neutrons. Medium Damage 5 x t2 ion 1 x med nos MWD small cap booster web/scram t2 / corpum repper RCU 400mm plate DCU exp hardener eanm auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump Dmg mod is 7.2 with my current skills. This fitting requires AWU 3! Both fittings perform especially well against battleships and still good against well tanked battlecruisers like Drake (the pilot had good tanking/misile skills, so dont cry noob). I survived easily the MWD approach to a maelstrom that was 70km away. He was using exp missiles as well. Weaknesses are cap but tell me one turret ship that does not suffer from that. If you see its role as a main damage dealer in a gang or even as a solo ganking ship for a maximum of 2 BS its a great ship! So stop whining and use it!
El Marchetto	Posted - 2006.12.30 02:52:00 - [17] Yes the Deimos will make a magnificent ship, when the price drops to 30mil that is...until then, its worse than useless
Kulmid Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.30 05:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Glassback Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Deimos setups please:( 5xHeavy Neutrons T2 MWD, Web, 20km Scram 3xMagStab II's, Med Rep II, Explosive Hard II, Grid thingy. G. Thank you, I completely agree anyone who flies a tank Deimos is asking to die, fit with that setup and 5x Hammerhead II's you will be doing around 700 DPS, usually you can kill anythign shy of a BS before it does much to you Gank Deimos is FTW
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2006.12.30 05:54:00 - [19] Originally by: ThunderGodThor Read this thread. Its now even worse off in kali. It will in great detail tell you whats wrong. Personally i think the deimos will make a great pve ship now as it cant do any thing else. Blaster ships got a boost and the deimos specifically got a boost. So i dont see how it can be "even worse" ----- The only real problem with the Deimos is that a brutix fills the role that it is designed for almost as well if not better[definitly better against larger ships]. The Brutix is slower, but does more damage, has more cap, and has a tanking bonus which the Deimos does not. And an extra mid slot as well.[1 less low though] ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
un5een Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.30 06:17:00 - [20] 5 x Heavy Neutron Blaster II Small Nosferatu II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 3 x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Medium Armor Repairer II Reactor Control Unit II Armor Explosive Hardener II it's kind of a secret weapon in small gangs... hide urself until the fight begins, then sneak into the field, do a quick pray that no-one noticed u, and deal roughly 600dps with has lvl5, med blaster spec lvl5 and some kinky implants nearly 750dps are possible. but then again comes the cheaper astarte which can easily deal over 1000dps :-D ----------------------------------------------- there are 6 million ways to die... chose one! - i chose LAG D2
Aeaus Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.30 06:59:00 - [21] Edited by: Aeaus on 30/12/2006 07:01:02 Originally by: Kulmid anyone who flies a tank Deimos is asking to die. I would disagree entirely, although I'm sure that 23867 HP of Hardened Armor with an average resist of 82.86%, well, that could warm up anybodies day ;) Tanking Survivability Calculator
Neon Genesis Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.12.30 10:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Neon Genesis on 30/12/2006 10:09:26 Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: ThunderGodThor Read this thread. Its now even worse off in kali. It will in great detail tell you whats wrong. Personally i think the deimos will make a great pve ship now as it cant do any thing else. Blaster ships got a boost and the deimos specifically got a boost. So i dont see how it can be "even worse" ----- The only real problem with the Deimos is that a brutix fills the role that it is designed for almost as well if not better[definitly better against larger ships]. The Brutix is slower, but does more damage, has more cap, and has a tanking bonus which the Deimos does not. And an extra mid slot as well.[1 less low though] They got less HP boosting than other ships in the patch.
Alex SOKOLOFF Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.30 14:23:00 - [23] Medium Rep wont save you when you start getting damage. Small Rep + big Plate > Med Rep + small plate
Pattern Clarc The Priory	Posted - 2006.12.30 14:31:00 - [24] 5x Neutron Blasters II Small nos 10mn MWD II Medium Electrochmical Cap Injector Web/warp scrabler (II?) MAR II 2x MFS II EANM II Explosive hardener II Internal Forcefield 5x Valkryes II .. RIGS 2x +10% pg rigs (haen't had a chance to figure out how the t2's work yet) All fits with AWU5 Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.12.30 14:58:00 - [25] 5x ion II, med nos MWD, web, scramble MAR II, explosive II, DCU, 2x MFS II, 1x 400mm plate
Zyrtan Keb'Lektar 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.30 15:59:00 - [26] I don't understand that ppl still buy the Deimos. It's not worth the current market price and it can't compete to a Zealot or Vagabond or Cerberus. Better train for amarr T2 and fit a Zealot with mwd, 1600mm, dual small rep tank and pulses. Gives 8k+ armor (with slave set over 10k), good resists, good dmg and 1650+ m/s.
Shi Mun Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:16:00 - [27] The thing about the deimos is thats its not as good as the price suggests. There are plenty of other ships that are cheaper and far more effective, such as a brutix. Basicly, its just not worth its value. --------------------------- HAHA! your jammers suck now! Oh wait whats happening to my scorpion...
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:24:00 - [28] Originally by: Breed Love 6 small nos 3 large shield booster II 2 1600mm plates, 4 rcus. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
FireMonk Caldari black viper corp	Posted - 2006.12.30 16:51:00 - [29] The biggest problem i see with the deimos is that it cant tank for *#%$. It can dish out a hell of a lot of damage it just cant take any. -----------------------
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.12.30 17:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Zyrtan Keb'Lektar I don't understand that ppl still buy the Deimos. It's not worth the current market price and it can't compete to a Zealot or Vagabond or Cerberus. Better train for amarr T2 and fit a Zealot with mwd, 1600mm, dual small rep tank and pulses. Gives 8k+ armor (with slave set over 10k), good resists, good dmg and 1650+ m/s. I fly a zealot extensively and I'd love to know how you get 8k+ armor good damage and nice resists with what you named
Zyrtan Keb'Lektar 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.30 18:01:00 - [31] Edited by: Zyrtan Keb''Lektar on 30/12/2006 18:02:29 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/Credon/2006.jpg LG slave set w/o omega and 2 HS in lows so it's NOT pants dmg. Very nice for gangs.
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.30 18:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Gilail Edited by: Gilail on 30/12/2006 02:33:56 Tbh, I dont know why everyone keeps whining. First of all, the main role of the deimos seems to be dealing damage and for that it performs very good. As with any other ship, awsome tank plus awsome damage is impossible. For me I found 2 fittings that seem to work pretty damn good: High Damage 4 x t2 neutron (void, null, antimatter) 1 x t2 electron 1 x small nos MWD small cap booster (100 charges) web/scram (for solo fit scram of course) t2 rep / corpum-a type repper (yeah expensive but its worth it! reason is in the rigs) RCU 400mm rolled tung plate DCU/EANM 2 x mag stab II auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump I get 11.7 dmg mod (only HAC lvl3 atm) with about 3sec ROF for the neutrons. Medium Damage 5 x t2 ion 1 x med nos MWD small cap booster web/scram t2 / corpum repper RCU 400mm plate DCU exp hardener eanm auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump Dmg mod is 7.2 with my current skills. This fitting requires AWU 3! Both fittings perform especially well against battleships and still good against well tanked battlecruisers like Drake (the pilot had good tanking/misile skills, so dont cry noob). I survived easily the MWD approach to a maelstrom that was 70km away. He was using exp missiles as well. Weaknesses are cap but tell me one turret ship that does not suffer from that. If you see its role as a main damage dealer in a gang or even as a solo ganking ship for a maximum of 2 BS its a great ship! So stop whining and use it! And then a brutix comes along and kills both those set ups for about 1/6th of the price
Gilail	Posted - 2006.12.30 21:50:00 - [33] Edited by: Gilail on 30/12/2006 21:52:05 Originally by: Hellraiza666 Originally by: Gilail Edited by: Gilail on 30/12/2006 02:33:56 Tbh, I dont know why everyone keeps whining. First of all, the main role of the deimos seems to be dealing damage and for that it performs very good. As with any other ship, awsome tank plus awsome damage is impossible. For me I found 2 fittings that seem to work pretty damn good: High Damage 4 x t2 neutron (void, null, antimatter) 1 x t2 electron 1 x small nos MWD small cap booster (100 charges) web/scram (for solo fit scram of course) t2 rep / corpum-a type repper (yeah expensive but its worth it! reason is in the rigs) RCU 400mm rolled tung plate DCU/EANM 2 x mag stab II auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump I get 11.7 dmg mod (only HAC lvl3 atm) with about 3sec ROF for the neutrons. Medium Damage 5 x t2 ion 1 x med nos MWD small cap booster web/scram t2 / corpum repper RCU 400mm plate DCU exp hardener eanm auxiliary nano pump anti-explosive pump Dmg mod is 7.2 with my current skills. This fitting requires AWU 3! Both fittings perform especially well against battleships and still good against well tanked battlecruisers like Drake (the pilot had good tanking/misile skills, so dont cry noob). I survived easily the MWD approach to a maelstrom that was 70km away. He was using exp missiles as well. Weaknesses are cap but tell me one turret ship that does not suffer from that. If you see its role as a main damage dealer in a gang or even as a solo ganking ship for a maximum of 2 BS its a great ship! So stop whining and use it! And then a brutix comes along and kills both those set ups for about 1/6th of the price Please not always the same discussion. We all know HACs (EVERY HAC) is overpriced. All I'm saying is that people here tend to adapt the oppinions of others that were mostly based on pre-kali whinings. Statements like "Cant take damage", "Does everything worse than ship X" are wrong and do not refelct the current situation. And as with any ship/fitting there will always be a counter fitting/ship because thats the way the game works and its called "balance". My posted fittings do work but of course do not work in ANY situation. Ask an Eagle pilot how he performs in close range combat when he fitted rails. In turn, ask a deimos pilot how he performed when he was not able to web its faster target. I hope that make my point clear. Still, Deimos is not as bad as most of you are saying. BTW: I heard some "too expensive" stuff, yeah true all HACs are. But i think 140mil Deimos is still better than >200mil ishtar.
Christopher Dalran	Posted - 2006.12.31 04:01:00 - [34] Dont buy hacs for a while. I'm about a hair length short of being able to invent a t2 ship BPC from a t1 ship BPC so i'll soon find out if the runs you get out of it are relative to the runs of the orrigional t1 BPC. If they are (and since you can reuse the interfaces which are the hardest to get) then i'd expect HAC prices too fall through the floor (because i WILL base my prices directly off the cost it takes to make however i will only sell 1 unit at a time over the forums through personal contracts to prevent people from reselling at the high price). Pirates and alts cannot buy them from me. However i will NOT be inventing a demios, i will be inventing an Ishtar which outperforms the demios in every area.
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 13:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Gilail Please not always the same discussion. We all know HACs (EVERY HAC) is overpriced. All I'm saying is that people here tend to adapt the oppinions of others that were mostly based on pre-kali whinings. Statements like "Cant take damage", "Does everything worse than ship X" are wrong and do not refelct the current situation. And as with any ship/fitting there will always be a counter fitting/ship because thats the way the game works and its called "balance". My posted fittings do work but of course do not work in ANY situation. Ask an Eagle pilot how he performs in close range combat when he fitted rails. In turn, ask a deimos pilot how he performed when he was not able to web its faster target. I hope that make my point clear. Still, Deimos is not as bad as most of you are saying. BTW: I heard some "too expensive" stuff, yeah true all HACs are. But i think 140mil Deimos is still better than >200mil ishtar. Look man, im not really arsed about the cost. But when i come to fit my deimos, i just cant find a set up, where another ship wouldnt do the job better. Your set ups are just a way to lose money, cause trust me, they will die o so easily to most other HACs, BCs and BS. The problem with the deimos is the fact that the game has been more orientated towards tanking now. Deimos is better for ganking. In PVP if a BS has a heavy nos or 2 the deimos is out of the equation. It wont be able fire its guns or tank. Its guns are very cap instensive. The fact is , as much as you want to find a use for the deimos, it just aint there. The only way i would fly a deimos now is as a rail platform in gangs, Its useless with blasters atm compared to other ships.
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2006.12.31 15:01:00 - [36] Originally by: Zyrtan Keb'Lektar Edited by: Zyrtan Keb''Lektar on 30/12/2006 18:02:29 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/Credon/2006.jpg LG slave set w/o omega and 2 HS in lows so it's NOT pants dmg. Very nice for gangs. first of all why 2 small reppers? it's equal to 1 medium repper on hp/sec seems like a waste of slots to me, which i could very well use on other things in your case. I'm sure it's ok but you prolly have focused medium pulse fitted aswell and the dual small rep tank I really don't get...
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:17:00 - [37] I don't really do this but I am gona have to flame. There are some shocking stupid/crap setups here for the deimos some people suggesting a 1600mm plate and light guns!!!!rolf I am not supprised some people say a brutix tanks better than a Deimos with some of the comedy 1600mm plate!!! lol small rep lol!!! setups posted here. I was gona post my setup... (its pretty logical) but is clear people are brain dead these days and can only fit caladri ships. Erm I had a small fleet of tech 1 criusers engauge me and they could not belive I ripped them appart I am not supprised they think this now seeing some of the setups posted!!!! I murder cerberus' ***** murder them. Here are some clues about gallante in general. Clue 1 : The differance between elctrons and Neutrons is 10% differance in damage with a 5% from either with ions. So with small exception for PvP... fit electron! Don't think of this as a trade down cause electrons track much better so you will problaby make that 10% up as you hit more after coming out of MWD. Don't think of it as a trade down from say a 250mm rail to a 150mm rail or a Megapule to say a dual heavy. Blasting works on falloff! optimal range is a meaningless number loading any other primary ammo other than a high damage short range one is also a meaningless idea. Falloff is what blaster need and its waht the deimos gives it extra. Clue 2: Its really not ok to tank a deimos like some have suggested with just 1 ENAM 2 that is insane. Trust me. Although CCP ignore broken ships at times for a while they eventually fix them. Trust me the Deimos is not perfect....but is is fixed. I can do some very naughty things in one. I don't really want to correct some of the idiots here as this is good for my PvP outlook that these monkeys exsist. *************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.01 12:42:00 - [38] Originally by: Tibrius Archer Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 31/12/2006 18:28:35 I don't really do this but I am gona have to flame. There are some shocking stupid/crap setups here for the deimos some people suggesting a 1600mm plate and light guns!!!!rolf I am not supprised some people say a brutix tanks better than a Deimos with some of the comedy 1600mm plate!!! lol small rep lol!!! setups posted here. I was gona post my setup... (its pretty logical) but is clear people are brain dead these days and can only fit caladri ships. Erm I had a small fleet of tech 1 criusers engauge me and they could not belive I ripped them appart I am not supprised they think this now seeing some of the setups posted!!!! I murder cerberus' ***** murder them. Here are some clues about gallante in general. Clue 1 : The differance between elctrons and Neutrons is 10% differance in damage with a 5% from either with ions. So with small exception for PvP... fit electron! Don't think of this as a trade down cause electrons track much better so you will problaby make that 10% up as you hit more after coming out of MWD. Don't think of it as a trade down from say a 250mm rail to a 150mm rail or a Megapule to say a dual heavy. Blasting works on falloff! optimal range is a meaningless number loading any other primary ammo other than a high damage short range one is also a meaningless idea. Falloff is what blaster need and its waht the deimos gives it extra. Clue 2: Its really not ok to tank a deimos like some have suggested with just 1 ENAM 2 that is insane. Trust me. Although CCP ignore broken ships at times for a while they eventually fix them. Trust me the Deimos is not perfect....but is is fixed. I can do some very naughty things in one. I don't really want to correct some of the idiots here as this is good for my PvP outlook that these monkeys exsist. PS I still see people breaking there necks to fit ion over electrons or neutrons over ions with RCU's and PDU's I got news for you... the damage increase is better if you fit the lower tier weapon and fit a magstab! Am I the only one who experiments with the numbers when fitting these days? Only time RCU's can be used in PvP is on sniping non tanking setups or NOS setups where the ability to fit more nos is like a Nos-magstab:) but again, a brutix a domi or a myrmidon will do the job better for cheaper. Seriously, atm the deimos is **e, and i hate to admit it as it was my 2nd fav ship(enyo 1st )
Pattern Clarc The Priory	Posted - 2007.01.01 14:26:00 - [39] with 2 rigs Deimos > all BC's figure out which rigs these are and you will find new respect for the deimos. Sig removed lacks EVE content, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.01 18:19:00 - [40] Originally by: Pattern Clarc with 2 rigs Deimos > all BC's figure out which rigs these are and you will find new respect for the deimos. but again, you can put those rigs on a brutix, and guess what , then the brutix will be better still
CherniyVolk	Posted - 2007.01.01 18:44:00 - [41] Originally by: Hellraiza666 The problem with the deimos is the fact that the game has been more orientated towards tanking now. Deimos is better for ganking. In PVP if a BS has a heavy nos or 2 the deimos is out of the equation. It wont be able fire its guns or tank. 1 Heavy NOS... my Deimos won't notice and if that's all the BS has, it will die.
Cividari Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.01 19:13:00 - [42] My current NPCing setup: 5 neutron blasters small NOS MWD Web Cap recharger Small rep 2 active hards 3 dmg mods Havent gotten any rigs for it but I think il get some PG rigs and maybe be able to upgrade the small rep.
darkmito	Posted - 2007.01.04 02:00:00 - [43] Edited by: darkmito on 04/01/2007 02:02:28
Mito Rilo Caldari The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.01.04 02:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Tibrius Archer Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 31/12/2006 18:28:35 I don't really do this but I am gona have to flame. There are some shocking stupid/crap setups here for the deimos some people suggesting a 1600mm plate and light guns!!!!rolf I am not supprised some people say a brutix tanks better than a Deimos with some of the comedy 1600mm plate!!! lol small rep lol!!! setups posted here. I was gona post my setup... (its pretty logical) but is clear people are brain dead these days and can only fit caladri ships. Erm I had a small fleet of tech 1 criusers engauge me and they could not belive I ripped them appart I am not supprised they think this now seeing some of the setups posted!!!! I murder cerberus' ******* murder them. Here are some clues about gallante in general. Clue 1 : The differance between elctrons and Neutrons is 10% differance in damage with a 5% from either with ions. So with small exception for PvP... fit electron! Don't think of this as a trade down cause electrons track much better so you will problaby make that 10% up as you hit more after coming out of MWD. Don't think of it as a trade down from say a 250mm rail to a 150mm rail or a Megapule to say a dual heavy. Blasting works on falloff! optimal range is a meaningless number loading any other primary ammo other than a high damage short range one is also a meaningless idea. Falloff is what blaster need and its waht the deimos gives it extra. Clue 2: Its really not ok to tank a deimos like some have suggested with just 1 ENAM 2 that is insane. Trust me. Although CCP ignore broken ships at times for a while they eventually fix them. Trust me the Deimos is not perfect....but is is fixed. I can do some very naughty things in one. I don't really want to correct some of the idiots here as this is good for my PvP outlook that these monkeys exsist. PS I still see people breaking there necks to fit ion over electrons or neutrons over ions with RCU's and PDU's I got news for you... the damage increase is better if you fit the lower tier weapon and fit a magstab! Am I the only one who experiments with the numbers when fitting these days? Only time RCU's can be used in PvP is on sniping non tanking setups or NOS setups where the ability to fit more nos is like a Nos-magstab:) This post almost makes me cry of relief, finally someone with a brain. This thread is meant for deimos setups, not about telling people to buy a brutix cause it can do everything so much better. If people want to buy a deimos for 140M it's their business, ok? Head over to the other BC threads and post your HAC-killer fittings there so we at least can see what we're up against! I'm buying a deimos tomorrow and i'll go for electrons because of the tracking. Then i'll head to 0.0 and gank ratters until a vaga comes and pwns me, then i'll just buy another one! ----------------------------------------------
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.04 02:23:00 - [45] Originally by: Mito Rilo Originally by: Tibrius Archer Edited by: Tibrius Archer on 31/12/2006 18:28:35 I don't really do this but I am gona have to flame. There are some shocking stupid/crap setups here for the deimos some people suggesting a 1600mm plate and light guns!!!!rolf I am not supprised some people say a brutix tanks better than a Deimos with some of the comedy 1600mm plate!!! lol small rep lol!!! setups posted here. I was gona post my setup... (its pretty logical) but is clear people are brain dead these days and can only fit caladri ships. Erm I had a small fleet of tech 1 criusers engauge me and they could not belive I ripped them appart I am not supprised they think this now seeing some of the setups posted!!!! I murder cerberus' ******* murder them. Here are some clues about gallante in general. Clue 1 : The differance between elctrons and Neutrons is 10% differance in damage with a 5% from either with ions. So with small exception for PvP... fit electron! Don't think of this as a trade down cause electrons track much better so you will problaby make that 10% up as you hit more after coming out of MWD. Don't think of it as a trade down from say a 250mm rail to a 150mm rail or a Megapule to say a dual heavy. Blasting works on falloff! optimal range is a meaningless number loading any other primary ammo other than a high damage short range one is also a meaningless idea. Falloff is what blaster need and its waht the deimos gives it extra. Clue 2: Its really not ok to tank a deimos like some have suggested with just 1 ENAM 2 that is insane. Trust me. Although CCP ignore broken ships at times for a while they eventually fix them. Trust me the Deimos is not perfect....but is is fixed. I can do some very naughty things in one. I don't really want to correct some of the idiots here as this is good for my PvP outlook that these monkeys exsist. PS I still see people breaking there necks to fit ion over electrons or neutrons over ions with RCU's and PDU's I got news for you... the damage increase is better if you fit the lower tier weapon and fit a magstab! Am I the only one who experiments with the numbers when fitting these days? Only time RCU's can be used in PvP is on sniping non tanking setups or NOS setups where the ability to fit more nos is like a Nos-magstab:) This post almost makes me cry of relief, finally someone with a brain. This thread is meant for deimos setups, not about telling people to buy a brutix cause it can do everything so much better. If people want to buy a deimos for 140M it's their business, ok? Head over to the other BC threads and post your HAC-killer fittings there so we at least can see what we're up against! I'm buying a deimos tomorrow and i'll go for electrons because of the tracking. Then i'll head to 0.0 and gank ratters until a vaga comes and pwns me, then i'll just buy another one! make sure to drop by esoteria
Ebodhisatva Gallente hunter killers	Posted - 2007.01.22 11:56:00 - [46] Edited by: Ebodhisatva on 22/01/2007 11:53:51 edit: 22.01.2007 forgot to put in the rigs I blast my way thru level 4 missions with this setup: 5 x t2 heavy ion blasters 1 x medium named nos 1 x AB II 2 x Cap recharger II 1 x Corpum a-type repper 2 x Mag stab II 3 x rat spec hardeners 1 x cap recharger rig 1 x anti-thermic hardener 5 x rat specific drones The only moment I have no mag stabs and might just warp out is when running a 'Pirate Slaughter' mission with explosion damage and that is the only mission I sometimes think - nah better warp out... the tank won't hold it because of lack of distance... (Forgetting to turn on the ab) The repper runs 24/7 -1 for dt ------------------- Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, you will not be counting days, or months, or years but milleniums in
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.01.22 12:07:00 - [47] 1. Pray that CCP fixes the Deimos and keep it in your hangar till that happens. 2. Repackage, sell...and then buy 7-8 Brutix or 1.5 Astarte _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp. Please show mercy Drakma!
DarkElf Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts	Posted - 2007.01.22 12:39:00 - [48] Originally by: Deathbarrage Originally by: Zyrtan Keb'Lektar I don't understand that ppl still buy the Deimos. It's not worth the current market price and it can't compete to a Zealot or Vagabond or Cerberus. Better train for amarr T2 and fit a Zealot with mwd, 1600mm, dual small rep tank and pulses. Gives 8k+ armor (with slave set over 10k), good resists, good dmg and 1650+ m/s. I fly a zealot extensively and I'd love to know how you get 8k+ armor good damage and nice resists with what you named Well i've never used a twin small rep tank on a hac and doubt i ever will but won't knock it as never tried it. i use 800 plate and with my slave clone i get 7k armour and they're only lg slaves so 1600 plate 10k+ easy i would think and resists are pretty good on mine. And the best deimos setup i can think of is a repackaged one in the hangar. i'm not selling mine in case they get boosted again in a decent way as i'd love to fly it well but not gonna use it until it gets up there with any of the HACS. DE
xHoodx The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.01.22 14:30:00 - [49] 4 ion II , 1 electron II, 1 med nos mwd, web, disruptor med rep, exp hard, eanm II, dcu and 2 mag stabs my current fit, does 650-700 dps somewhere with void and hammers but the cap is terribly fragile. feel somewhat suicidal flying it

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